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HSBC Chairman Doug Flint: Capping Executive Pay Would Be 'Irresponsible'

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First Posted: 05/27/11 12:45 PM ET Updated: 07/27/11 06:12 AM ET

LONDON (Sudip Kar-Gupta and Sarah White) - HSBC Holdings Plc executives faced investor anger on Friday over lackluster returns and high executive pay, prompting Chairman Douglas Flint to admit performance had been disappointing.

Europe's largest bank, which has started a cost-cutting drive to make bigger profits, faced a backlash over top executive rewards at its annual shareholders' meeting, even if a remuneration plan won the backing of some former critics.

Yet a fifth of shareholders refused to back the plan, which includes lower caps on long-term incentive share payouts, despite a year of lobbying by HSBC, marking stronger opposition over pay than faced by its British peers.

"How greedy is this board of directors?" asked private shareholder Michael Mason-Mahon, as other investors called on HSBC to take a lead in moving away from "wildly excessive remuneration at board level."

Still, the plan was approved by 81 percent of HSBC's owners, many of whom rounded on the bank for its mediocre shareholder returns, which Flint called disappointing and inadequate. "We are committed to making it better," Flint said.

Earlier this month, newly-instated Chief Executive Stuart Gulliver unveiled a retreat from retail banking in a host of countries, aimed at tackling a jump in costs which dragged down first-quarter profits some 14 percent.

Gulliver, who rose to the top job earlier this year after a boardroom tussle in 2010, is targeting up to $3.5 billion in costs savings through the overhaul, which could also involve Europe's largest bank offloading its U.S. credit card arm.

HSBC also faced uncomfortable questions over its relationship with the Libyan government and leader Mummar Gaddafi, after reports surfaced this week saying HSBC held assets from the country's oil fund.

Flint argued that Libya had been rehabilitated by the international community in 2006, which explained why it had enjoyed access to the international financial system again, before being cast aside this year.

He refused to be drawn on whether HSBC had any connection to the Libyan government.

PAY UPSET

The new pay plan failed to garner full support from HSBC shareholders despite the bank striving to lay the ground for the proposals in the last year as it sought to avoid a repeat of a similar backlash last year.

HSBC's revamped format includes limiting long-term incentive plan share payouts to six times basic salary, from seven times, and makes it harder for employees to cash in quickly on their incentives.

Measures also include making staff hold on to shares until they retire or leave the bank.

HSBC did manage to win the backing of one prominent former critic, Standard Life Investments Plc, a representative of which said it would vote in favor of all resolutions.

Standard Life had been one of the bank's fiercest critics last year when investors had already launched stinging attacks on the bank over executive pay.

The representative did ask HSBC, however, to consider strengthening the role of the deputy chairman and senior independent director and to review the effectiveness of its new policy no later than 2014.

Other investor bodies had already voiced reservations over the pay plan.

The Association of British Insurers (ABI), whose members own almost 15 percent of investments listed on the London stock market, had issued a so-called "amber top" alert to raise its concerns.

It did the same over compensation proposals put forward by British rival Barclays Plc, although the firm's pay plan was passed after a backlash from about a tenth of investors -- a much lower disapproval rate than HSBC.

Share advisory group Pirc also slammed elements of the compensation strategy, including provisions for "golden hellos," a recruitment incentive whereby employees are compensated for joining from another firm.

Pirc also questioned the lack of a cap on salaries.

"It would be irresponsible to allow our comparative advantages to wither by ignoring the market forces that exist around compensation, even though we understand how sensitive this subject is," Flint said.

(Additional reporting by Tommy Wilkes; Editing by David Holmes)

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LONDON (Sudip Kar-Gupta and Sarah White) - HSBC Holdings Plc executives faced investor anger on Friday over lackluster returns and high executive pay, prompting Chairman Douglas Flint to admit per...
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11:00 AM on 06/01/2011
This is proof positive that we are plumiting toward feudalism: the CEO's and investors are the Lords; the rest of us are serfs.
nobodysgirl
VOTE in 2012, Women!!
04:24 PM on 05/31/2011
O, really, Mr. Flint?

What about worker pay? CEO's already make on average about 400x that of their workers - and sorry, but no CEO is worth that money. Includes you.
04:23 PM on 05/31/2011
One thing you can say about the French is that when they had a revolution they knew how to take care of the revolting, ruling royal class. The English and Americans could learn something from them.
11:19 AM on 05/31/2011
Funny, it seems to me that capping pay would be the first responsible thing the banking industry has done in decades.
02:44 PM on 05/30/2011
HSBC Chairman Flint is a very short-sighted. He is looking no further than the end of the payroll year. Like everything in the world, MODERATION is the name of the game, if we are to survive as a Constitutional and Republic form of government. His program will only insure that the "rich get richer and the poor get poorer". When that happens, one thing always happens; REVOLUTION!, and history relects such events are violent with "blood in the streets". I suggest an annual salary cap (including the value of all benefits) to two-million dollars, with the rest being taxed at 100% and redistributed to the needy, by the states. Bonuses (of any sort) be restricted to 20% of ones annual base salary. Also, all "golden parachutes" be limited to two-times ones average last 5-year (or lessor number of years served) base salary. Capitalism, to continue, must restrict the "power and greed" aspects of our free enterprise system. There are no persons, "out there" worth more than a two-million dollars earned income a year. Most of the wealthy just do not "get it! If either the socialists or Muslim/Islamists take over, "they" will confiscate all of your wealth, usally by force. If Islam becomes the "law of the land" most all of the wealthy will loose not only their businesses, power, wealth and jobs, but will also lose their heads----just look at Middle East history. This missive is just the "tip of the iceberg".
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tacevad
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12:13 PM on 05/30/2011
pay freeze? how Nixonian
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11:41 AM on 05/30/2011
i would like to know the definition of "irresponsible " from all the top bank execs (current and past)
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LangstonA
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03:42 AM on 05/30/2011
The "logic" of the Board of Directors is that they would not be able to get someone to run the company well if they did not offer the compensation that is outrageously high. But have they really tested that hypothesis? Why don't they offer just 50% of what the other corporations pay and see who applies for the job? Sure, the overpaid, underperforming fat cats who currently hold CEO positions won't be knocking down the door at HR trying to submit an application. But that does not mean there will be no qualified applicants. Take Egypt for example. Egypt has a bunch of unemployed PHd graduates. Egypt and other Arab nations have people who are smart enough to run successful corporations but can not do so because of the corruption that hinders good business practices in those countries. I bet there are qualified, well educated candidates from non-Western backgrounds that would jump at the chance to get just half of current CEO compensation. On top of that I bet that these candidates would actually raise, rather than lower, the long term value of the company.
11:44 AM on 05/29/2011
Why not cap the deductibility of compensation at some "reasonable" level ($1 million/year). Let the shareholders carry the burden instead of the taxpayers
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lightbulb10
07:38 PM on 05/29/2011
That is a great point.

We do have to find good ways to recognize that fostering rapacious business environments is not offering our best, regardless of wanting to call it that, and incorporating good curbs on that.

Your suggestion is certainly one fairly immediate, relatively self-regulating feedback loop which could act to mitigate the carrying on of trendy excesses.
11:07 AM on 05/29/2011
Wow, I should get compensated exorbitantly for lackluster performance! Where do I sign up?

Sounds as if a salary cap is indeed what they need, or tie all compensation including salary to overall corporate performance. But, that will just give them an incentive to 'cut costs' at year's end and the little people who actually do all the work will suffer.
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robphilnz
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02:05 AM on 05/29/2011
These danged furriners who don't understand that irresponsible means "NOT responsible"!

Or has the lamestream media put that "ir" in front of "responsible" by mistake?
11:00 PM on 05/28/2011
I don't think he understands the difference between "responsible" and "irresponsible."
08:29 PM on 05/28/2011
The wolves are in charge of the hen house.

OF COURSE they are going to push for something that is in their own best interests.
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robphilnz
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02:04 AM on 05/29/2011
There seem to be Ayn Randians everywhere. Quoting from her "ideal man", sadistic child killer Edward Hickman, "what's good for me is right".
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06:05 PM on 05/28/2011
Why is it that the very banksters that have brought the world to it's knees, on the brink of total collapse, think they "need", much less "deserve" such outrageous payouts for something they created to begin with?! While millions lost their savings, retirements, and investments, including companies pension funds sold in guise of "being safe".
Ludicrous! It's like a robber telling the store to leave the door unlocked and he won't steal anything.
08:35 PM on 05/28/2011
I have been doing a LOT of reading.....especially since 2008 over what is going on.

Long story short....the banksters, CEO's, oligarchs, corporations, government regulators, Wall Street, AND the politicians are ALL in the SAME bed.

Buddies. BFF. One for all and all for one. Helpmates and enablers. A Club for the Entitled.

These guys (and gals) go back and forth between Wall Street, Banks, politics, regulating agencies.........a constantly revolving door.

One guy who gets it (mostly) right....from 2010 and 2011 (that I have read his articles)....is Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone. (google him)
This guy writes long articles but they are easy to understand.
*****No, I don't know this guy, I just like what he writes.
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03:12 AM on 05/29/2011
I read alot and one of the best books on our situations is called "Freefall" by Stiglitz, and "How The Economy Was Lost" by Roberts.
People should be taking to the streets en mass over what is happeneing and what's coming down the pike if it continues.
04:49 PM on 05/28/2011
You are wrong. There is not 1 human on the Earth worth the money some of you are paid and it is about time.