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Palestinian Official Predicts 'Third Intifada' If Stalemate With Israel Continues


First Posted: 06/01/2011 12:50 pm Updated: 08/01/2011 5:12 am

WASHINGTON -- A senior adviser to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said in an interview Tuesday that last month's clashes along Israel's borders were a "rehearsal" for larger demonstrations planned for this Sunday to commemorate Naksa Day, the anniversary of the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"The 5th of June will not be an ordinary day," said Sabri Saidam, deputy speaker of the Fatah Council and a former Palestinian Authority telecommunications minister. Saidam, who is visiting the United States as part of a U.S. State Department-sponsored conference on innovation, predicted "a third intifada" if Israel does not suspend new settlement construction in the West Bank and the current stalemate continues.

"You cannot negotiate your pizza while it's being eaten," said Saidam, whose father, Mamdouh Saidam, was a member of the Fatah Party's central committee and was killed by Israeli forces.

Prospects for renewed peace talks have withered in the wake of a Palestinian unity deal between Fatah and Hamas and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's May visit to the United States. Netanyahu responded to Hamas' reconciliation and U.S. President Barack Obama's public push for a Palestinian state by further digging in his heels on the key issues of borders and refugees.

Saidam said that Hamas "will not change its charter", which calls for the destruction of Israel, but said that was irrelevant because the militant party would not take part in any future peace talks. He compared the group's participation in a new Palestinian government to the acceptance in Israel's coalition government of the ultra-Orthodox Shas Party, whose leader, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, last summer wished a "plague" on Palestinians -- particularly Abbas, who Yosef said "should perish from this world."

Abbas plans to appeal to the United Nations General Assembly to recognize a Palestinian state when the body meets in New York in September. Saidam said the Palestinian Authority has commitments from more than 150 of the 192 member states.

Still, the majority may not prevail. The United States has made clear it would use its veto in the U.N. Security Council to quash what Obama has called a "symbolic" vote, although Saidam and some in Israel argue there may be ways to circumvent such a move.

Saidam voiced disappointment with Obama's actions since he called for a "new beginning" with the Muslim world during a 2009 speech in Cairo. "He over-promised in Cairo," Saidam said, calling the president's speech last week "electioneering nostalgia" designed to win over American Jewish voters in 2012.

But even without Obama, Saidam said, the Arab Spring has brought Palestinians "closer to independence than ever," as evidenced by the border demonstrations. "We are inspired by the Arab revolution and not, as in the past, vice versa," he said. "Now it is different."

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WASHINGTON -- A senior adviser to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said in an interview Tuesday that last month's clashes along Israel's borders were a "rehearsal" for larger demonstrations planned...
WASHINGTON -- A senior adviser to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said in an interview Tuesday that last month's clashes along Israel's borders were a "rehearsal" for larger demonstrations planned...
WASHINGTON -- A senior adviser to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said in an interview Tuesday that last month's clashes along Israel's borders were a "rehearsal" for larger demonstrations planned...
WASHINGTON -- A senior adviser to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said in an interview Tuesday that last month's clashes along Israel's borders were a "rehearsal" for larger demonstrations planned...
 
 
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danew13
08:47 PM on 06/04/2011
The only reason they can make such threats is they know the Israelis won't do what they would do if the shoe was on the other foot...just massacre everyone in time tested Arab fashiom.
www.hard-truths.blogspot.com
08:40 PM on 06/02/2011
The white tribes of Europe have been at war with one another for centuries practically non stop. Ironically war came to Palestine only after a white tribe came from Europe to take over. Who in fact are the real 'savages'?
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StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
09:21 AM on 06/03/2011
Playing the race card.
03:59 PM on 06/03/2011
Says you, Bull Conner? That's a laugh!
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Fein
And this too shall pass.
09:12 PM on 06/03/2011
"Playing the race card."

You mean, like misconstruing criticism of Israel as Antisemitism?
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Fein
And this too shall pass.
09:10 PM on 06/03/2011
Wow, great observation!

Seems this isn't the first time a 'white tribe' brought war to the ME.
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Gracie fr
06:13 PM on 06/02/2011
Israelis are very uncertain about the future. It could even be that there will hardly be any of them left in the Jewish State by the time the third Intifada comes around.....
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/fear-is-driving-israelis-to-obtain-foreign-passports-1.365454
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AtlantaIconoclast
05:44 PM on 06/02/2011
"One can not negotiate one's pizza, while it is being eaten"! Great point. I also think those of us on the side of justice should remind Israeli apologists that Israel's governing coalition contains ultra orthodox and rightist Jews who want a "plague" upon the Palestinians, form them to just go away. This is no different than the attitude of Hamas. So how do they get away with the constant reference to Hamas, without having to explain the rejectionists and haters within Israel?
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
09:02 AM on 06/03/2011
"One can not negotiate one's pizza, while it is being eaten"! Great point.

If that is your perception of what is happening, you suggest waiting until the pizza has been eaten to negotiate?

Here is the difference the ultra orthodox and hamas. If there is a peace deal, both will likely be unhappy, but the ultra-orthodox are not going to start attacking the palestinians. They do not have the armament to do so and I believe the israeli gov't would stop them if they tried. Hamas does have weaponry and rockets and there is every indication that they would use the new state as a staging ground for attacks.
(btw, if you are going to refer to anyone who is pro-israel as an "Israeli apologists", is it cool if I call you a "terrorist apologist? Just asking...)
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
10:48 PM on 06/03/2011
IF an agreement is reached, there will likely be attacks from extremists on BOTH sides.

Remember, it wasn't a Palestinian who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin. It was a settler extremist. And Baruch Goldstein wasn't paying a friendly visit to a Mosque.

Then you have the "hilltop people"

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/israel/view/

There is as much potential for violence from such as these as there is from extremists from Hamas or from some other splinter groups.

The moderates on BOTH sides are going to have to make a determination that they will not allow the extremists from either side to de-rail a potential peace agreement.
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nk5otr
09:54 AM on 06/03/2011
I have never seen someone refuse to ask for a slice of pizza because someone else was eating a different slice.
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AtlantaIconoclast
10:19 AM on 06/03/2011
The West Bank is the coveted slice. BOTH want it. But remember, aside from Gaza, this is the ONLY slice available to Palestinians.
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runforfun54
05:21 PM on 06/02/2011
Well, they can certainly get the ball rolling by acknowledging Israel's right to exist. Would be a start. Frankly, it behooves Palestinian leaders not to have a peace deal. Common enemy, their constituency won't ask the hard questions like: Gee Hamas, why are you always provoking war with Israel by putting arms next to my kid's schools. I'm just saying ...
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AtlantaIconoclast
10:21 AM on 06/03/2011
This is just unreal. The PA leadership has repeatedly affirmed Israel's right to exist. Even Arafat affirmed that at the start of the Oslo Process. Just google it if you don't believe me. What they have not done, and should not be expected to do, is to affirm Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state, for that would betray the 1.5 million Palestinians who are a sizeable minority within Israel.
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
10:53 PM on 06/03/2011
I think the key over the next several months from the Palestinians will be the behavior of Hamas. If they show restraint, and truly pursue a POLITICAL course, rather than a course based on terrorism, then there is hope.

Pay attention to the ACTIONS -- not so much the WORDS of Hamas. See how they are integrated into the PA.
02:53 PM on 06/02/2011
Given Israel's intransigence and its government's reliance on a party--Shas--that believes in killing Palestinian babies, a third Intifada can only seem like a reasonable move. We can expect that--like last time--it will start peacefully up to the point where Israel starts killing people. How the Palestinians respond to that violence will be the real test.
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BeLogical1234
04:11 PM on 06/02/2011
are you on something? you are that illogical that i had to ask.
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runforfun54
05:23 PM on 06/02/2011
You really are ... crazy. A) Shas does not run the Israeli Knesset. B) no one likes "killing Palestinian babies," though Palestinians sure do enjoy putting their kids' lives at risk by putting their weapons in civilian areas. Here's a novel idea. How about hamas acknowledging Israel's right to exist and stop lobbing rockets into civilian areas. (Sderot).
01:16 AM on 06/03/2011
Ahh! Another American! I didn't say Shas was running the Knesset; I said it is a government party. It's interesting that you say that all Palestinians are criminal because they live in areas that Israel has deemed a military target so as to kill the maximum number of civilians--Israeli blaming the victims at its best. Since it's Israel that can't keep a ceasefire to save its life, maybe your request should go to Israel.

http://tinyurl.com/63rzml5
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-01-06-chart2a.jpg
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-kanwisher/reigniting-violence-how-d_b_155611.html
BubbaC33
Jimmy Buffett is the greatest American
01:29 PM on 06/02/2011
First the Arabs demand to have all of their demands met before peace talks can begin, which kills the ideea of a compromise taking place. And the Arabists here criticize Israel for not giving up everything for nothing. And now the Arabs threaten a war if their demands are not met. And the Arabists will attack Israel for the violence.
I am much more likely to dosomething for someone if it comes in the form of a request. When someone tells me if I don;t do something they will kick my posterior that changes things and nothing gets done.
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
03:04 PM on 06/02/2011
Now I suppose that Israel could try to figure a way to take all the land and somehow deprive Palestinians citizenship (God knows they have deprived them of most other rights -- a situation that CANNOT continue) -- Israel will receive the SAME economic sanctions as Apartheid era South Africa did.


And while Israel might be able to function economically for a while, running a garrison state is VERY expensive, and after a while the sanctions WOULD wreck the Israeli economy.

The ONLY way for Israel to maintain its status as a Jewish (majority state) is to take the offer on the 1967 borders (with small trade-offs) and even compromise on Jerusalem. (Most of East Jerusalem is NOT comprised of the Old City -- which could have JOINT sovereignty and rule between the two nations.

As I have been saying over and over, Israel might get away with what Netanyahu wants IF Israel didn't face the demographic issue.

That alone WILL force a settlement, one way or another. RIGHT NOW, Israel can control how this comes out. But she MUST ACT NOW!!

Or soon, the decision will be taken for her.

Please forgive the glitches in these posts. I am having all kinds of problems with formatting and other glitches. I have contacted HP to try to get them sorted out.
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
04:24 PM on 06/02/2011
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BubbaC33
Jimmy Buffett is the greatest American
04:45 PM on 06/02/2011
The people you label as "Palestinian" are no different ethnically or culturally than most citizens of Jordan, Lebanon or Syria. Which serves them well, if folks would conccentrate on allowing the Arabs to live in the state created for them in 1922. The Arabs living in the camps have no real connection to Judea or Samaria, let them live in Amman.
What jwc fails to acknowledge is the danger facing Israel if we try to live within the pre-67 borders. We were lucky to win the war resulting from actsof war committed by the over 100,000 Arab soldiers massed on our border. The next time might not work out so well. Given the lack of land in Israel any invasion has the potential of ending our existence. Which is jwc's big dream.
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AtlantaIconoclast
05:46 PM on 06/02/2011
One cannot negotiate one's pizza while it is being eaten! Ending the expansion of the settlements would not mean that Israel would give up anything. It simply means that it would not be able to take more from the Palestinians.
BubbaC33
Jimmy Buffett is the greatest American
09:32 PM on 06/02/2011
You did not address any of the points I made in my poting.
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nk5otr
01:23 PM on 06/02/2011
Translation: We the "leaders" of the Palestinians will shed more Palestinian blood because we know no other way of leading.
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AtlantaIconoclast
05:47 PM on 06/02/2011
you know that this is the only occupied and colonized people on the planet who are expected to lie back and take it, and be grateful for it! unreal, the arrogance of the Zionists
BubbaC33
Jimmy Buffett is the greatest American
09:35 PM on 06/02/2011
First of all the Arabs living inside Judea and Samaria are treated far better than their relatives inside Saudi Arabia or Yemen or any of the rich oil states. Second, the Braves are a terrible baseball team, the Hawks bite and the Falcons are losers. In other words, you have too many issues in Atlanta to spend time dealing with the Middle East.
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Bonnie Larkin
Oathkeeper AND NRA member
09:47 AM on 06/02/2011
Israel CAN NOT FALL !! The United States must NOT allow that to happen - not only is obama this countries number 1 enemy he is also the number 1 enemy of Israel
What a sad - sad - state of world affairs the progressives and radical muslims have placed us all in -
Are we to assume that the animals of the arab nations that slaughter their own - REALLY want peace ?
When will the liberal fools open their eyes and realize that killing the infidels applies to them as much as it applies to the Jewish people
What fools the liberals are - they are willing to be murdered just to prove they are liberals -
well thank GOD for the my right to bear arms and for local and national militas
Lets see if huffpuff will allow me the right of freedom of speech -- we'll see
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Anybodyseenthepopos
Like you Really give a rats...
11:43 AM on 06/02/2011
Hey Bonnie, as an extremely left of center liberal I think you should know that many of us agree with you on Israel. You won't find em all on this blog, but they are many.
Economics and social issues should and will be discussed on other threads. And yes, those of us liberal progressives who's support for Israel is unwavering are endlessly frustrated by those who disagree. But separating liberals from conservatives on this thread when many of us DO agree is highly counterproductive.
~DaPopos
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Bonnie Larkin
Oathkeeper AND NRA member
12:20 PM on 06/02/2011
I Tip my hat to you and stand corrected - Anyone that supports Israel is worthy AND owed respect.
02:05 PM on 06/02/2011
Bonnie think and try not to do so as a anti Arab racist.
Are you saying that we Americans are ANIMALS because in our civil war we slaughtered our own?
Study up on the history of your tribe and the many occasions when they "slaughtered their own"
this will open your eyes and you will became less prejudice.
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10:05 AM on 06/03/2011
i always find it amusing when one of the most prejudice, biggitted, and r@cist…... accuse of others of such. lol.
09:07 AM on 06/02/2011
Imagine that in 63 years not once have the Arabs ever said to the Israelis we accept you as our neighbors now let us live in peace together. If the people next to the Israelis were Buddhists or Hindus do you think the situation would remain like this? The Palestinians have never wanted to be in peace with the Israelis and only seek the elimination of the Jewish state. At the time of the formation of Israel the Palestinians were asked to share Israel by the Jews. Now the part they offered to share was in fact the part that originally was intended to be a JEWISH state, while the Palestinians were to get parts of transJordan. Since Jordan took the Palestinian land, there was only Israel for both to share. The Jews offered, the Palestinians declined and started the war, lost, and now want to get it back. When you start a war of annihialation you don't get to win after you lose. This makes sense to most intelligent people. But not to the people who want to rewrite history. Now 1/6 of Israel is non Jewish, most being Muslim while there are NO JEWS in Gaza or the WB legally. The Arabs and Muslims are INTOLERANT of Jews and recently kicked out 850,000 of them from homes they lived in for millennia, and way before Islam became a religion. But that is the Arab mindset, intolerant of everyones rights except their own.
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MarcEdward
likes all cats more than most people
09:15 AM on 06/02/2011
"Imagine that in 63 years not once have the Arabs ever said to the Israelis we accept you as our neighbors now let us live in peace together" More like for 1200 years the Arabs accepted Jews to live as neighbors and at peace. It was the Zionists who couldn't live peacefully with the Arabs. Hope that helps!
09:21 AM on 06/02/2011
You do not know history. Jews were never accepted as equals, they were second class citizens, just like women in Arab lands are today. And of course what has that have to do with my post? Read a history book.
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TheLonelyGod
The oncoming storm
09:22 AM on 06/02/2011
The historical record says quite the opposite. Oh sure, the Arabs were happy to let Jews live in their countries, as long as the Jews showed the proper respect and didn't get uppity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

But when the Jews decided they didn't like being oppressed and that they wanted the same rights that the Arabs had (what you would call "Zionism") then the Arabs reacted with the genocidal murderous rage that we see today.
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mogluver
If you can pitch, you can catch.
09:17 AM on 06/02/2011
Don't forget that the Palestinians are not allowed free travel in most Arab countries. After the creation of Israel, the Arab states didn't want large numbers of Palestinians moving into their countries, Jordan received most of them and installed refugee camps for housing. The Arab states have been just as guilty in not wanting to settle the issue as the two main parties. The whole matter is a mess, and the parties don't seem to have much common interest in solving the problems of their citizens. Sounds like "gridlock" to this observer.
09:42 AM on 06/02/2011
The Arabs refused to assimilate the Palestinians because they wanted to use them as a threat to the Israelis whom they hate. This is the way the Arabs think, always guided by their hate and not by love. The fact is there is not much love in the Arab way of thinking. Their treatment of women, Christians and Jews reinforces this belief.
08:54 AM on 06/02/2011
"Syrian forces have killed 41 civilians in an effort to crush pro-democracy protests, a human rights lawyer said, as opposition leaders met in Turkey to plot the downfall of Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president."

http://english.aljazeera.net/video/middleeast/2011/06/20116235012973293.html

Is this what Palestinians will also see when they "self-rule"? I'd say 50-50 chance that it is.
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AtlantaIconoclast
05:54 PM on 06/02/2011
but we don't send Syria foreign aid, so we don't have blood on our hands.
12:02 PM on 06/03/2011
The US has blood on its hands for not referring this to the UN Security Council. That's the US' role at the UN. This aid BS is just that.
08:52 AM on 06/02/2011
"Syria troops renew attack on central town; 15 dead"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110602/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_syria
08:50 AM on 06/02/2011
Palestinian makes prediction - 1,117 comments.

43 killed by Syrian forces (according to HP article from today!) - 0 comments.

Since the ratio is infinity this is worth mentioning. The conclusions are obvious.
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Cannonball Taffy O Jones
Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
09:24 AM on 06/02/2011
Your figures would seen to suggest that a great many HP posters care more for attacking Israel than commenting on massacres perpetrated by an Arab tyrant?!?! How can this possibly be true!?!? After all we are repeatedly told that there is no anti-Semitism on IC just a desire to see peace and justice in the Middle East.
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BcemXAHA
Yerushalaim shel zahav
09:28 AM on 06/02/2011
Why are you surprised. I'd say that a good 98% of those who post "pro Palestinian" posts have no concern for the Palestinians but instead are using them like the Arabs do.
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GZLives
11:02 AM on 06/02/2011
Exactly otherwise you'd see a lot more coverage on the treatment of the "Palestinians" inside those countries where they're still penned up in "refugee camps" like Lebanon which is particularly bad.
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NTT
Fighting rants with facts
08:29 AM on 06/02/2011
>>>"Palestinian official predicts [...] Saidam, who is visiting the United States as part of a U.S. State Department-sponsored conference on innovation, predicted 'a third intifada'"

Conference on innovation? It seems that the only innovations "Palestinian officials" ever contribute concern terrorism and mob violence.
01:06 PM on 06/02/2011
Racism because of the fact that Palestinians are brutally occupied by Israel.
Only occupiers can be terrorists.
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GZLives
01:56 PM on 06/02/2011
Blah blah blah .... brutal occupation ..
of what exactly?
There was no Palestine so what and from who is Israel occupying?
This is disputed land for good reason but perhaps facts get in your way of the usual mantra of inverted reality
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GZLives
01:57 PM on 06/02/2011
Racism?
From someone supporting Arabs you claim some sort of institutionalized racism?
That's nothing hut a joke coming from those who have made selling land to Jews a crime punishable by death