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Afghanistan War: U.S. Trolling For Taliban To Open Talks

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KATHY GANNON   06/ 1/11 08:34 AM ET   AP

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — After 10 years of bloody battle in Afghanistan, the United States is trolling for Taliban officials to talk peace with before the July drawdown of American troops.

Washington's special envoy, Marc Grossman, has a one-point agenda: to reconcile Afghanistan's warring factions, say Western diplomats in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

But as Washington seeks negotiating partners, it has little knowledge of who among the Taliban has the clout to make talks worthwhile.

Grossman, therefore, is trying for access to Mullah Mohammed Omar, the one-eyed Taliban leader, according to Imtiaz Gul, head of the Center for Research and Security Studies in Islamabad, Pakistan's capital.

In a meeting earlier this month in Islamabad, Gul said Grossman told him that he was looking for "persons or groups who can provide us access to Mullah Omar, who can demonstrate their ability to approach Mullah Omar and get him on board, who can get through to Mullah Omar to open talks."

Finding a genuine interlocutor is a slippery business.

Heavily sanctioned and largely ostracized during their rule, many members of the Taliban leadership are not known to U.S. officials.

For example, late last year a Quetta, Pakistan, shopkeeper posed as the Taliban's former aviation minister, Mullah Mohammed Akhtar Mansour, and met twice with Western officials before they realized they had been tricked.

The Associated Press has also learned that the United States held a series of meetings with more than one Taliban member. There also has been contact with representatives of Hezb-e-Islami, a group led by U.S.-declared terrorist Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and the Haqqani network, considered by NATO and the U.S. to be their deadliest enemy in Afghanistan.

Earlier this month the German weekly Der Speigel reported that Germany had helped U.S. officials contact Mullah Omar's personal secretary, Tayyab Aga. He was the last public voice of the Taliban before fighters fled southern Kandahar province in December 2001, shortly after U.S.-led invasion. While Germany has been involved, opening of contact with Aga was an American initiative, a western diplomat in the region told The AP.

The last time Aga was seen in public was Nov. 21, 2001 when he conducted a final Taliban press conference in Spin Boldak in southern Kandahar Province. The Taliban fled Kandahar on Dec. 7, 2001 allowing Hamid Karzai to be named president and the U.S. led coalition to announce that the Taliban had been routed countrywide.

At that time, Aga was 25 and Omar's personal secretary. A relative newcomer to the Taliban, Aga was not a member of the Taliban inner circle when it ruled Afghanistan between 1996 and 2001, nor did he have battlefield experience.

But he spoke English well and was a prominent face in the last years of the Taliban's rule, acting as Omar's spokesman.

Since 2001 his name has not emerged as a member of the so-called Quetta shura, named for Pakistan's southeastern city where many of the Taliban are said to live or transit with relative ease.

It's not clear whether Aga still has links to Omar or whether Omar has okayed the U.S. contacts. Taliban have flatly denied anyone is talking to the U.S. or to the Afghan government. Senior Pakistani security officials who spoke on condition they not be identified, said Omar is rigid in his refusal to negotiate.

Aga is just one of several insurgents the U.S. reportedly has approached either directly or indirectly to test their willingness to talk peace, according to western diplomats in the region. Others include former Taliban information minister Qatradullah Jamal. Lines also are out to Ibrahim Haqqani, a brother of group leader Jalaluddin Haqqani, as well as Hekmatyar's representatives, they say. No one is calling the meetings negotiations, rather they are most often referred to as exploratory contacts.

Hekmatyar, who has an unsavory reputation, hid Osama bin Laden for at least 10 months after the al-Qaida leader fled the Tora Bora mountains of eastern Afghanistan in November 2001, according to testimony from prisoners at the U.S. military lockup at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. During the Taliban rule Hekmatyar lived in exile in Iran. His fighters have deep animosity for the Taliban, further complicating U.S. attempts at construct a political settlement among the warring factions.

According to Afghan officials Hekmatyar's warriors are fighting the Taliban in eastern Nangarhar province. Former Taliban have also told AP that Omar routinely told followers he would never talk to Hekmatyar, calling him duplicitous and untrustworthy.

Hekmatyar, an ethnic Pashtun like most Taliban, also battled ferociously against the so-called Northern Alliance – mostly of ethnic minorities and Washington's allies in Kabul. It was together with the Northern Alliance that the U.S.-led coalition ousted the Taliban in 2001. Yet the Northern Alliance also has a checkered past. When they last ruled Afghanistan between 1992 and 1996, until being thrown out by the Taliban, their relentless fighting destroyed giant swaths of Kabul and left 50,000 people, mostly civilians dead.

Pakistan, which remains angry about the May 2 raid into the country by U.S. Navy SEALS that killed Osama bin Laden, only complicates Washington efforts.

Pakistan's historical links to the Taliban, as well as to both the Haqqanis and Hekmatyar makes its cooperation crucial to U.S. efforts to find a political exit from Afghanistan, officials say. However it also makes Pakistan deeply suspect by the Northern Alliance. Those U.S. allies accuse Pakistan of supporting the Taliban, sending them across the border to carry out suicide bombings that destabilize Afghanistan.

Afghanistan's former intelligence chief-turned-politician Amrullah Saleh has lumped Pakistan in with the Taliban as enemies of Afghanistan. He has previously accusing Islamabad of trying to return the Taliban to power as a proxy.

He said the Afghan government has not set out requirements for prospective talks with the Taliban.

"All the time the government calls the enemy `brothers' while the enemy is insulting them, conducting suicide attacks, placing roadside bombs and killing innocent people," Saleh said.

Nader Nadery of Afghanistan's Human Rights Commission, said war fatigue in the United States and NATO was increasing pressure for talks that, he said, "will bring a short term end to violence but lead to more fighting when the (U.S. and NATO) forces leave."

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Kathy Gannon is special regional correspondent for Pakistan and Afghanistan. Associated Press Writer Deb Riechmann contributed to this report

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Kathy Gannon can be reached at http://twitter.com/kathygannon

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ysbee
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04:38 PM on 06/02/2011
In any wars, a drastic change of the strategy makes a dynamic turning point at the Hinge of History. I hope this move - obviously conducted by (who else) new Ambassador Ryan Crocker - will make a break-through, as it did in Amber Provence in Iraq.
01:49 PM on 06/02/2011
a wise person does not talk to islamic miscreants, but defeats them. force is all they understand and respect.
05:06 AM on 06/02/2011
To coin a very old and hackneyed phrase:- "at the end of the day", governments ALWAYS end up in talks with the "enemy" who are later re-designated "Freedom fighters and not "terrorists". EOKA in Cyprus, Mau Mau in Kenya, IRA in Britain, the Vietcong in Vietnam and these are the only ones I can remember in my lifetime. There are statues all over the world of men in uniform purportedly "freedom fighters" and most, if not all NEVER wore a uniform or had the guts that the Taliban seem to have to confront netter armed and equipped troops. Yet I beleive the Taliban (and their) supporters should be as crushed as possible BEFORE any talks take place.... sadly, I may never happen.
04:50 AM on 06/02/2011
Pakistan is being attacked by the US for not being committed to fighting terror; and by extremists who are angry about what they see as Pakistan fighting someone else's war. Caught in the middle, Pakistan is damned if it does, and damned if it doesn't.

Pakistan was foolish and short-sighted in funnelling training and assistance to extremists – but it was not alone in doing so and others (including the US and the Saudis) share responsibility for this irresponsible and dangerous policy.

These extremists fall into two very different categories: (1) those who resist foreign occupation ("Texans"), and (2) terrorists.

Pakistan should fight the terrorists because they threaten Pakistan's vital state interests (and the interests of the US and others). However, it should talk with the Texans because that is necessary: (1) to enable the US to extricate itself from the unwinnable war it started in Afghanistan ten years' ago, and (2) to stabilise the region after the US has gone.

There is widespread disquiet about the war the US and others have been fighting in Afghanistan, the cost of that war in blood and gold, and the total absence of any credible indicators of success there (despite a decade of protestations to the contrary). It is time for articulation of an endgame which recognises the difference between Texans and terrorists. Especially because there is no alternative to doing this, except defeat.
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jneedhamp
02:47 AM on 06/02/2011
Anyone negotiating with tribal leaders who are interested only in US dollars and members of a quasi-religious cult which considers the US the "great satan" is several cards short of a deck, their 'elevator' doesn't go to the top, if their brains were nuclear warheads they couldn't blow out a match, and they are several degrees short of plumb!
02:26 AM on 06/02/2011
We must applaud Obama, for trying to stop this endless, needless, war. Bring these young men home.
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GOD Hates Us All
There are no innocent people
01:30 AM on 06/02/2011
Tr0lling the Taliban?

What are they doing, going on their websites and

Starting flame wars?
01:29 AM on 06/02/2011
Time to talk was before it became obvious that there was no possibility of victory....(Day 1) One of those days the US is going to learn that bombs don't make for a good peace and it's also very expensive in dollars and in lives.And not just in American lives !
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PitBull6
10:50 AM on 06/02/2011
Such an optimist. Bombs made a pretty good peace in Germany and especially Japan.
12:47 PM on 06/03/2011
We can win the war. We just won't do what it takes. We would have to be ruthless and violent on the level of WWII. We are trying to fight a clean and sanitary war. It doesn't work. Especially against a people who believe they get special treatment in heaven.
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quillsinister
01:07 AM on 06/02/2011
So this war has been going on for about ten years now, has been paid for with borrowed money and has been waged by running an exclusively volunteer military into the ground. The only viable way to continue on this path would involve massive war taxes and a draft.

If you have no stomach for this, then consider the possibility it's simply time to end it.
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fairwayhill
1948 Palestine belongs to the Palestinians
12:58 AM on 06/02/2011
There is nothing to negotiate. The Obama must stop the war and send the troops home.
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Nina Platter
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03:02 AM on 06/02/2011
I am not Catholic, but I remember how upset the Pope was when Bush proclaimed WAR. He made a special appeal to Bush not to do this, but he was ignored. I think of this often, especially now since President Obama is makeing every effort to get us out. July starts the guys and gals coming home.
Pres. Obama has made many efforts towards peace, trying to get diffrent Nations on board of closing Nuc. down. If talks would help stop this violence I really hope and pray it can be useful, but the people we are dealing with may be inpossable. What if he can bring some into the peace that would be worth trying.
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racerx577
12:58 AM on 06/02/2011
Arianna, Do you take us readers for fools? The white house has had a direct phone line to the Taliban for years. Tell me something I don't know. Oh yea we've also been in peace talks for quite sometime. Here I have some news, We lost afghanistan never had it, never will. War on American citizens by Corporate america. Follow that one Arianna. So in the name of Gil-Scott Herin ''The revolution will not be televised." Where will you stand Arianna? Tell me?
12:39 AM on 06/02/2011
osbama made the worst mistake of his terrible term by escalating the war in Afghnistan. Now he is trying to find a way to escape and blaming others for incompetence. The taliban will use osbama for their own propaganda purposes.
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Nina Platter
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02:53 AM on 06/02/2011
@aftersootdamp there were reasons for that escalation into afghnistan, I am to tired to try to explain it to you. It is weird that you are using this to slam President Obama, did you read the article represented here?
04:20 AM on 06/02/2011
Baloney. osbama excalated the war in Afghanistan for purely political purposes. You couldn't explain it, even if you tried. It has been an unmitigated fiasco. osbama has never been interested in the war on terror, only in getting re-elected. And he is screwing that up too.
12:31 AM on 06/02/2011
US is involved in civil war in Afghanistan...so called Taliban are various tribal forces that don't support corrupt regime of US puppet Karzai...propping him up costs misguided potus $120 bn a year ...$1 mm per soldier deployed...we know how it will all end...US forces go back home telling tall tales of their success and Karzai gets kebabed or moves to us and starts up human rights foundation
12:16 AM on 06/02/2011
Trolling for Tliban.......try Pakistan...here they do alot of RR there.