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Advanced Students In Federal Way, Wash. Automatically Enrolled In AP, IB And Cambridge Programs

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First Posted: 06/02/11 09:54 PM ET Updated: 08/02/11 06:12 AM ET

One Washington school district has taken a giant leap this year in pushing students to take college preparatory courses.

Starting in fall 2010, all students in grades 6-12 in Federal Way Public Schools who meet state standards are automatically enrolled in their school's advanced academic programs. As a result, the number of students enrolled in advanced courses has increased by 70 percent, and for the first time the district's ethnic diversity is reflected within these classes.

While other school systems have adopted automatic enrollment in traditional "honors" courses, in Federal Way the advanced courses are by default the highly demanding AP, IB and Cambridge programs.

Only a small number of students opt in to these incredibly rigorous, time-intensive programs in most schools. Now all Federal Way students who pass standardized tests are enrolled unless they opt out with parent permission.

Superintendent Rob Neu told The Huffington Post the new Academic Acceleration policy was put in place to help close the achievement gap. In Federal Way, 80 percent of students meet proficiency on state exams but only 30 percent were signing up for the advanced programs. They were also "disproportionately serving white and Asian students and not serving African American and Hispanic students," Neu said.

The policy was not meant to force students into classes they can't handle. Any student who wishes can simply opt out with parent permission.

"We are trying to encourage students to take the more rigorous academic program," said the superintendent.

But some parents complain that kids weren't told what they were up against and found themselves in way over their heads.

Michael Scuderi, the parent of a senior at Thomas Jefferson High School, home of the district's IB program, said the policy came with little communication from the district. "It was just dropped on us," he said.

Scuderi, part of the Raider Parent Movement (like the PTA), said a lot of students dropped out, demoralized. "We've heard stories of kids that have dropped out of the program, and they're crushed," said Scuderi. "Students weren't told ahead of time everything they were getting themselves into."

Of the 274 11th graders at TJHS automatically enrolled in IB, 43 have dropped out. However, this does not include students who withdrew from one course but stayed in another.

The opt out/dropout rate is likely to be the highest in high school, where the advanced programs are most demanding. Students follow a strict and highly rigorous curriculum that culminates in a nationwide standard exam at the end of the school year.

In Federal Way, the advanced programs are being implemented as early as sixth grade, preparing students with officially sanctioned pre-IB, AP and Cambridge curricula.

Federal Way's new policy also represents a significant achievement since it was implemented without any increase in funding.

"A lot of the school districts are frozen in time," said Frank Ordway, Deputy Director at the League of Education Voters. "They feel they can't do anything without new money."

The district has cut about $30 million in spending in the past eight years, and it's one of the most poorly funded districts in Washington. Districts who have succeeded in similar endeavors have done so in much more affluent areas.

"There are a couple of districts in the state that have [implemented similar policies] and they've been successful," said Ordway. "The reality is that they're much more homogeneous."

This was also an accomplishment in closing the achievement gap between ethnic groups in a very diverse district. In Federal Way, 122 first languages are spoken among the district's 22,000 students, compared to 92 first languages in Los Angeles's 700,000 students.

Traditionally, Federal Way's advanced programs have served predominantly white and Asian students. Automatic enrollment ensures the demographic of students within the advanced programs is the same as it is in the rest of the district.

The real test of this policy's success will come with the results of the first Academic Acceleration group to take the AP, IB and Cambridge exams. For now, the passing rate in these courses gives some sign that the new students can keep up. Ninety-four percent of students in advanced courses passed with a C or better in the first semester, beating the district average by 10 percent.

"For this to buck that trend with first time enrollees is pretty exciting," said Superintendent Neu.

A lot of the difficulties faced so far were due to the transitional process, which ultimately can be worked out. What remains, TJHS parent Scuderi said, is the long term question about the effectiveness of the "one size fits all" Academic Acceleration model.

"Some kids are saying they're really bored because they're not moving fast," he said. "Other kids, we've heard from parents, are really intimidated for being put in with kids who are smarter."

The more advanced students are kept from flourishing as they would in a more selective group. On the other side, the bottom-tier students put in the advanced programs over their head could be being set up to fail.

"If you push kids, they will do better," said Scuderi, agreeing with the drive behind the Academic Acceleration policy. "I think there are some really good ideas out there, but it's the way it has been implemented. We don't know if it's going to work."

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Michael Morrison
Proud Dad, Engineer, Aspring Geophysicist
06:56 PM on 06/07/2011
Lake Wobegon Syndrome: Every Child is above average!

Seriously, they are called Advanced Placement classes because only advanced students are supposed to be placed in them.

As for the other kids, they are being set-up for failure.
05:48 PM on 06/07/2011
Why not have them build one of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k0lXbTQGfs

That was more interesting than 95% of high school classes but no teachers suggested it. Is school designed to control what kids know and perform psychological conditioning.
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11:52 AM on 06/06/2011
Kids should definitely be challenged in school. If they score well enough to be enrolled in AP classes, sign them up but give them a month or two to try it out. If you take a class and do well, you can get college credit, but if you fail it, it lowers your GPA, which is all some colleges care about.

I skipped freshman year of college and graduated in 3 years by accumulating credit with AP classes; even just getting to skip one class frees up a student for an elective in college or can help them graduate a bit early.

The only downside is that the average score on an AP test is a 2, which isn't a passing score. So though they'll definitely learn something, most kids don't learn enough about the material or testing procedures to pass and get college credit.
08:08 AM on 06/06/2011
Having taught AP in a public school and now having my son take AP in a different public school, I have mixed feelings about this. One big problem is the level of cheating if the kids are too overwhelmed with the amount of work (and number of APs taken). Second, I have seen really, really bad teaching because the teacher either didn't know the curriculum (for example, taught World history, given AP American History because of enrollment needs) and basically took a seasoned AP teachers assignments and didn't really know what he was doing. Another AP teacher my son had took the idea that she was teaching a "college" course and created a ridiculous standard that few could handle (she had favorites) and broke the spirits of the rest. She was a young teacher with little mentoring as I could tell. When I first taught AP, I had "successful" students in my class, but they were still only 15-16 years old and in school 7 hours/day, plus extracurriculars, etc. You simply cannot replicate a college class. I tried to include anyone who wanted to try knowing that some probably did not have the skills to get a 5 but would enjoy the experience. A friend taught AP Bio and weeded out the first quarter those who would not be able to succeed. I respected his philosophy and he mine. He certainly had more 5s, I had more students.
04:36 AM on 06/04/2011
No mention of Newsweek "top high schools" rankings? They go by the number of students enrolled in AP classes (and give no weight to the scores they attain). I wouldn't be surprised if this or other cynical motives (increased funding?) were behind this practice.

It's like anything else--if you judge performance on a given metric, then you're going to get people to deliver you that metric, not the performance it's supposed to measure. Even if this district's motivations are not cynical, I expect some other district to follow their lead soon enough.
03:51 AM on 06/04/2011
I agree, to some extent, with a statement that "If you push kids, they will do better in school". But don't try too hard... They are only kids.

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mlaiuppa
Pres. Sarcasm Society. Like we need your approval.
03:18 AM on 06/04/2011
I have two nephews who took a lot of AP courses and both graduated top of their classes. One was valedictorian.

The first is in his FOURTH year of community college and swears he will graduate soon. He's talking about getting a job with his AA degree. (LOL).

The valedictorian? He dropped out of Berkley one semester shy of a BS in organic chemistry and decided to enlist in the Navy. He's been promised nuclear sub. school.

For these two losers AP courses were a total waste. They got top grades and then squandered their potential. (The one squandering about $80,000 in tuition to Berkley for the time he attended, dorm fees, books and food.)
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VA Jill
I'm not perfect and neither are you
03:40 PM on 06/04/2011
I really have a problem with you calling your nephews "losers," particularly the one who enlisted in the Navy. He may learn far more, and be more suited to that kind of life. He can finish his degree in the Navy while serving his country.. Young people frequently don't know what exactly they want to do and may well go to college because it's "expected" and not because they have anything in mind or even really want to go. My son dropped out of college after a year and enlisted in the Army. He has made his career with the Army National Guard as his civilian job is with them and in order to keep it he has to stay in the Guards. His civilian rank is Major, and on the military side he has been asked to go to Warrant Officer training. I don't think he's a "loser" by any means. Nor do I think my daughter, who took loads of AP classes but also dropped out, (in her case to have a couple of kids) is a "loser." She's back in school and earning honors. Don't be so quick to judge or write these boys off. Education is NEVER "wasted."
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mlaiuppa
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04:26 AM on 06/05/2011
Mr. Valedictorian quit Berkley a year short of a degree. It was paid for by his grandparents so he had no worries of grants or making tuition, everything was paid for.

He's never worked a day in his life. I mean never. He's never held a job of any kind, never earned a paycheck.

He's waiting for his navy training until August. What is he doing with no classes to study for and no job? He sleeps until noon and then he plays video games.

He's never done anything around his own house. He's never dug a hole, pulled a weed, done any chores. He cannot use tools.

He studies and gets good grades but has done nothing with it. He has no ambition. He couldn't be convinced to wait a year to finish his degree and go into the Navy as an officer because he doesn't want to be a leader or tell people what to do. He has no interest in being an officer.

He's squandered his potential.
01:49 PM on 06/06/2011
I wouldn't blame the AP courses for that. Sounds more like a general lack of motivation and direction in life.
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BornOKtheFirstTime
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06:16 PM on 06/03/2011
It depends on your priorities.

If you want to maximize the chances that your strong, highly motivated students will get the AP scores of 4 or 5 which more and more universities are requiring in order to get credit, then loading your classes with marginal students will slow progress and reduce intensity. But democratizing the AP experience can itself be a worthwhile goal.

I taught almost exclusively AP classes for 20 years, including Calculus AB, Latin-Vergil, French Language and Art History. At my school AP teachers were free to establish their own criteria for admission. I carefully vetted my students, admitting those students who could do the work and did do the work. Other AP teachers, however, opted to admit anyone who wanted to give it a try. My students generally felt that my classes had prepared them better for the exams than the classes with open enrollment.
05:51 PM on 06/03/2011
Pretty amazing that 231 out of 274 of those kids stayed in the IB program, hung in there and did it. That's over 80%.

Just makes you think what we're leaving on the table by letting kids slide through high school without a major challenge. Those numbers are good and should be duplicated. The 20% that can't hack the academic program would probably love a great vocational curriculum.
yappnmutt
humping legs for liberty
05:49 PM on 06/03/2011
people rise to the standards that are set for them in every endeavor not just academics. the public school system is a great place to show kids how it works.

ironically, in my children's experience, some student who were considered smart by virtue of their grades in other classes floundered in ap classes and dropped out to maintain a high gpa for college admission. the classes separate the wheat from the chaff, no fudging and grade inflation.
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builderman55
Featherless Biped
05:43 PM on 06/03/2011
A terrible idea. I taught AP American History for 15 years and scored AP exams for 6 years. It requires good analytical and synthesis skills which some kids have the aptitude for, but it is a HUGE mistake to put all kids into the program. They used to do this in South Carolina I believe, amd the AP scores were dismal.
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mastermike14
06:53 PM on 06/03/2011
precisely. AP is called Advanced Placement for a reason. Its for advanced learners who need a more challenging curriculum. Im wondering if the current cirriculum for regular classes is not challenging enough so the schools see a need to put student into ap classes? Perhaps the schools should focus on making the general classes a little bit more challenging instead of going all out. Maybe go from cold to water instead of cold to scolding hot
05:34 PM on 06/03/2011
With large classes it's hard to individualize. When a teacher can individualize, a bright kid can be pushed to excell.
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abbienormal
What hump?
05:30 PM on 06/03/2011
Now, this is a waste of resources.
05:03 PM on 06/03/2011
OMG .. does this mean that these students in 2011 must automatically take the same kind of courses I took as a student in 1965 ? I wonder if they still have to enrol in Latin classes ?
Mountain Momma
Seemed like a good idea at the time
05:52 PM on 06/03/2011
No. IB classes are in no way like the same kind of classes you took in high school in 1965 unless you were at some elite private school that made you sit for written and oral exams with outside examiners at the end of the year. I was in the IB program back in the 80's when it was still relatively new here in the U.S. and it is a very intense program that no student should be automatically enrolled in without a full understanding of the time required. Students who are innately gifted might not find it too challenging, but I have seen even gifted students exhausted by it.
05:55 PM on 06/03/2011
If you haven't seen today's AP prep calculus, biology or chemistry texts, you have no idea how much further they are being taken than our 1965 programs. Those AP classes are modern third and fourth year college level, not 40 or 50 years' ago texts.

High school juniors and seniors taking college prep schedules with numerous AP classes while trying to grow up in this internet connected age have a full load on their hands. Give them a little credit where it's due.
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lecloche
06:20 PM on 06/03/2011
"Those AP classes are modern third and fourth year college level" , I would not go that far. The texts, although notably dense, tend to be light on theory and practice. Teachers are expected to provide the missing parts. This is a great notion but only if you have capable teaching staff.
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John Camp
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08:14 PM on 06/03/2011
I don't know where you what your exposure to college level math and science was, but when I recently helped my nephew prep for the AP Calc exam it was strictly first semester stuff.
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blindjester
English and ESL teacher
05:02 PM on 06/03/2011
If you put a *few* motivated, hard-working kids of average intelligence in a room full of advanced students, they will usually adjust, and do what they have to do to keep up and succeed.

If you put dozens of regular kids in classrooms meant for advanced students, you either get a bunch of low grades or the teacher has to aim at the new middle. Kids get really frustrated if you teach way over their heads.

I agree that having high achievers in with regular students is a good idea for the regular students. The research is clear on that. Socially, it's a good thing. But it has to affect curriculum and instruction. There's no way it doesn't change the way the class operates.