iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Lawmakers To Press For Strong Afghanistan Drawdown In Coming Weeks

Afghanistan

First Posted: 06/07/11 08:47 AM ET Updated: 08/07/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The war in Afghanistan is increasingly becoming the war no one wants.

Opposition to the conflict is now mainstream, with the vast majority of the American public favoring a substantial drawdown of U.S. troops. With the death of bin Laden, the growing cost of operations and frustrated constituents, an increasing group of congressional lawmakers is also voicing concerns. Even within the Obama administration, there are reports of some aides pushing for a strong drawdown.

The most dramatic display of this shift came in the House last week when 204 lawmakers -- 178 Democrats and 26 Republicans -- voted for Rep. Jim McGovern's (D-Mass.) legislation requiring President Barack Obama to present a plan "with a timeframe and completion date" for the transfer of military operations to Afghan authorities. The measure fell just 12 votes short of passage. A similar amendment in the last Congress received 162 votes in support and only nine supporting votes cast by Republicans.

"I was surprised that so many people had the guts to vote for it," McGovern told The Huffington Post. "If there were a secret vote here, I think the vote would be even higher. I've had a number of people -- some Democrats, but a lot of Republicans -- come up to me after the vote and say they wish they could have been with me. The American people are ahead of the Congress on this issue, and they're way ahead of the administration."

Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) did not vote for McGovern's amendment. But at the Faith and Freedom Conference on Friday, he said he understood the frustration of many of his colleagues.

"Some individuals believe that with the killing of Osama bin Laden, one of our main missions has been accomplished," said Price. "Many members have questions about whether or not it's possible to stand up a government in Afghanistan that resembles something we would be comfortable with, and therefore they're not going to lose any more treasure from the United States there. Some folks are just tired of us being there. Some folks don't have any confidence or faith in the President of the United States to execute competently the charge that he's been given. So there are a variety of reasons of why those numbers are ticking up, and I think they'll continue to increase."

When asked if he shares those concerns, Price replied, "Every one of them."

With the beginning of withdrawal set to begin in July and the president said to be sticking to his plan to complete the handover of security operations to Afghan forces by 2014, the pressure exhibited by these lawmakers could end up forcing the administration's hand for a more robust withdrawal.

Yet at the same time, the avenues available to lawmakers to push withdrawal are limited between now and the start of the July drawdown.

"There really aren't many pieces of legislation coming up where it's germane to have this Afghanistan discussion," said McGovern. "We might have the defense appropriations bill coming up before the end of June, but the problem with the defense bill is you can't legislate on an appropriations bill. You only can add or cut. So you can't say I'm going to cut enough to force the president to begin to bring our troops home. It just makes it very difficult."

A senior Democratic aide told The Huffington Post that a group of progressive members were trying to get the Democratic caucus to issue a statement endorsing a swift withdrawal, similar to what the Democratic National Committee did in February in a resolution pushed by Reps. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) and Mike Honda (D-Calif.). Members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus recently went to a full Democratic caucus meeting and made the case to their colleagues.

The aide said that House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) are generally supportive of the drawdown position. Both voted in favor of the McGovern amendment and have privately committed weighing in with the White House.

Last week, McGovern took his concerns straight to the president during the Democratic caucus meeting at the White House on the debt ceiling. He reportedly received strong applause from his colleagues.

Pro-drawdown advocates have been discussing how to keep the pressure up in the coming weeks, building upon the success of the McGovern amendment vote. But most of the lawmakers who spoke with The Huffington Post said the administration had not yet reached out to them to discuss withdrawal, although they hoped that would change as July approaches.

"We'll see -- at least I hope -- some outreach being done by the administration, in terms of how fast we anticipate it being acceptable to Congress, and how fast we'll be doing the drawdown," said Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D-Texas), who is a member of both the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Armed Services Committee. "Right now there's a lot of concern that the president and the administration is going to slow-walk this thing."

Just because these conversations aren't happening as frequently as some would like now doesn't mean they won't going forward, once the military commanders submit their recommendations to the president.

"Certainly Afghanistan and Pakistan come up regularly in both the president's conversations with Congress and in staff conversations, but we've said that these drawdown recommendations will be developed by the commanders in the field based on conditions on the ground first," said National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney also said on Monday that the cost of the war won't be a factor into the White House's decisions on withdrawal.

Andrew Exum, a fellow at the Center for a New American Security and a former adviser to U.S. Central Command, said the main negotiations are happening now are between the military and the White House and between the U.S. government and the Afghan government.

The debate playing out within the administration can be seen in the competing voices in recent news stories. On one hand, there's outgoing Defense Secretary Robert Gates who is advocating for modest reductions in U.S. forces in July. There was also a May report by the Wall Street Journal about an initial military plan to withdraw about 5,000 troops -- a number far below what many lawmakers would like to see.

On the other side was a Monday story in The New York Times, which reported that the president's national security team was "contemplating troop reductions in Afghanistan that would be steeper than those discussed even a few weeks ago, with some officials arguing that such a change is justified by the rising cost of the war and the death of Osama bin Laden, which they called new 'strategic considerations.' "

Among Afghan officials, according to Exum, there is concern about what happens economically when the United States withdraws.

"I think the Afghans are somewhat scared that the goose that lays the golden egg and has, in a lot of ways, enabled some pretty dramatic GDP growth in Afghanistan and allowed a lot of Afghans to become quite wealthy is now going to be leaving," said Exum. "On the other hand, I think, Afghan decision makers are genuinely concerned that the United States is going to withdraw without any big infrastructure projects that are going to put Afghanistan on the path to financial stability."

What everyone is now waiting to hear from the president is how many troops will come out in July and what the pace of the withdrawal will look like. There are currently about 100,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan; 30,000 of them went in as part of the "surge" Obama announced in December 2009. Reyes said anything below 20,000 will probably elicit a "hue and a cry" from Congress.

Rep. John Garamendi (D-Calif.), who recently returned from a trip to Afghanistan, introduced an amendment to the defense bill last month calling for the United States to reduce troop levels to 25,000 by the end of 2012 and to 10,000 by the end of 2013.

"I told both [Amb. Karl] Eikenberry and [Gen. David] Petraeus that the next 30 days are critical," said Garamendi, recounting his conversations during his trip to Afghanistan. "Within the next 30 days, it's my view that Congress expected to see a very specific plan for a drawdown and clarity in our mission."

This story has been updated with the correct number of votes a similar amendment to McGovern's received in the last Congress.

FOLLOW HUFFPOST POLITICS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Hill newsletter!
WASHINGTON -- The war in Afghanistan is increasingly becoming the war no one wants. Opposition to the conflict is now mainstream, with the vast majority of the American public favoring a substanti...
WASHINGTON -- The war in Afghanistan is increasingly becoming the war no one wants. Opposition to the conflict is now mainstream, with the vast majority of the American public favoring a substanti...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 2,240
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Highlights
Bloggers
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (47 total)
01:02 PM on 07/22/2011
Our fellow Americans are dying. Let's get them out of there... NOW! Support your troops!

http://www.airsplat.com/support-gi-troops.htm -_-
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
maxom
Just flew over the coo coo's nest
12:12 PM on 06/10/2011
"-- The war in Afghanistan is increasingly becoming the war no one wants." .... What a brilliant ststement....
photo
GulfportM
"It's like deja vu all over again."
10:07 PM on 06/08/2011
The US had pulled back considerably between 2007-2009 in the Afghanistan theater to pursue the runners into iraq. Mr. Obama has turned that trend and headed back to the borders of Afghanistan - Pakistan. The US is chasing the runners again. The Bush policy of killing or capturing the bad guys seems to have been forwarded to the policy of today.
09:57 PM on 06/08/2011
No mention of the fourth war started illegally again by Obama with intensified air strikes on Yemen. What a war monger we have running things.
07:53 PM on 06/08/2011
Imperialistic (Team America) ambitions of misguided potuses cost US a lot. Bushie wanted to "search for WMD in Iraq"...nice story, why not for Holy Grail? 5,000 body bags and $1 tr is a price to pay. let's do more and occupy Afghanistan...NATO lost 2,500 people and another trillion. Corrupt regime of puppet Karzai would not last a day without USNC so 120,000 US troops are needed to prop him up. A lesson of Vietnam where potuses wanted to keep one nation separate at a price of 58,000 US military personnel is forgotten
04:46 PM on 06/08/2011
Double
Dip? The tragedy that is the George Bush War in Iraq and the George
Bush Tax cuts. Tragic consequences for our Nation. Sad consequences for
us all.
10:00 PM on 06/08/2011
Please your talking points are played out. Obama signed the tax rate into law and has now started two wars. Now that is sad consequences.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Fred Sanders
Please unban me. Unjustified.
01:50 PM on 06/08/2011
On June 7, between 20 and 40 peaceful protestors were gunned down by Israel as they protested the state of their Palestinian refugee camps in Syria and Lebanon.

The America media is silent in the face of these crimes.

Brown and Muslim and Israel involved.

Look away America, Israel demands it of you.
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
dianhow
former Repub till W
12:42 PM on 06/08/2011
IF you care SPEAK up now Tell them Get out of Libya and Afghan wars www.whitehouse.gov www.senate.gov www.congress.gov Starting long wars for profits is so so EZ Getting out is not Thats why Bush admin dumped it all on the ' New guy ' Obama
10:06 PM on 06/08/2011
The new guy started Libya and now Yemen.
08:30 PM on 06/07/2011
Plenty of people want this occupation to continue.

The Afghani government administrators and bureaucrats who skim the contracts and aid money.

The Afghani warlords.

The private militias.

The gun-runners.

The defense contractors.

The private-contractor mercenary armies.

The oil companies who want that Caspian Sea gas pipeline.

When (if) this occupation ever ends there will be plenty of people ginning up another war somewhere else, for no other reason than to keep those tax dollars flowing their way...
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
dianhow
former Repub till W
12:44 PM on 06/08/2011
We know that    War Machine  is in full throttle   Many  Billions  being made b
Cheenys  Halliburton  Blackwater   /     Weapon / plane manufacturers  
Speak out   tell them    Get out of Aghan &  Libya  wars   NOW
www.whitehouse.gov                   www.congress.gov
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Ken Overholt
10:10 PM on 06/11/2011
Little known facts. 40 cents of every US tax dollar collected goes to the military. We are spending double what was spent in 2001. We spend more on our military than the total amount spent by all the other countries of the world combined. That is add up the total amount spent by England, France, USSR, Libia, Sudan, Egypt, S. Africa, Germany, Italy, Iran, Syria, China, Japan, Vietnam, N. Korea, Israel, Brazil, Afganistan, etc(you get my point) and we spend more than all of them combined. We have 15 supercarriers. The rest of the world has zero. The pentagon is talking about adding 2 more. We are promoting a NATO missle shield for Europe of which we will pick up most of the tab to protect Europe from a nuke attack from Iran. The plutonium for said missles, if made, of Iran will come from a reactor in Iran initially built by Germany and early on run by France. So tell me again why are we paying for the missle shield to protect them?
photo
fpfp040408
OBAMA = 2012 !!
07:50 PM on 06/07/2011
OBAMA got OSAMA & Obama will get us out of Afghanistan
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
10:11 PM on 06/07/2011
Osama aside, you do stand-up too?
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
dianhow
former Repub till W
12:46 PM on 06/08/2011
Yes he will   40408    BUT  how long will that take ?
and How many more lives, maiming, kids losing parents must  occur ?
07:41 PM on 06/07/2011
"With the death of bin Laden ..." if only it were that simple. We leave now and we'll be back in twenty years ... just like last time.

If we stay, we'll sink under the weight of increasing popular displeasure... advances in UAV technology coupled with increasing the competence of ANP and ANA forces that rely on NATO oversight and eliminating the treacherous Karzai regime are elements that shape an independent and thriving Afhanistan.
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
dianhow
former Repub till W
12:48 PM on 06/08/2011
as long as billions are made and  Generals make their mark with  long wars  
This  killing  maiming  will NEVER END     US  can always find a reason  to go to  war  
 Getting  out is the hard part
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
JessCostello
06:51 PM on 06/07/2011
This is such a stunt by the anti-war folks in Congress so that they can claim a "victory." The drawdown is going to happen whether they press or not.
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
10:40 PM on 06/07/2011
Drawdowns do not end war. They can go on for years and years.
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
JessCostello
01:08 AM on 06/08/2011
Title, easy to read.

Lawmakers To Press For Strong Afghanistan Drawdown In Coming Weeks

They are pressing for a strong DRAWDOWN. Please read the article before heading to the comments section. I know I'm being a jerk but it's a pet peeve of mine, plus I'm "pro-war" to boot.

This is just a stunt because the drawdown is happening anyway, and it's going to be significant. It's just something to get the anti-war crowd feeling like they are right.
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
dianhow
former Repub till W
12:48 PM on 06/08/2011
Draw down ?  yes    but  how many more must die  or be maimed ?  Thats the issue   here Jess
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
06:40 PM on 06/07/2011
G T F O
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
JessCostello
06:52 PM on 06/07/2011
S T F U
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
06:53 PM on 06/07/2011
I didn't know St Fernald had a University.
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
jwredd
07:59 PM on 06/07/2011
U S T F U
It's long past time to G T F O
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
OneTop
Uh, is that a beer hall?
06:34 PM on 06/07/2011
"The war in Afghanistan is increasingly becoming the war no one wants."

So what ?

The MIC who are the beneficiaries are the ones who want it and like it or not the Public's interest has never mattered. Even after 10 + years no one apparently understands this or is honest enough to print it.

Look at the annual federal budget and appropriations to see who is important.

Unless there is somewhere else to invade and occupy to replace the $$$$ lost by stepping out of Afghanistan, look for more of the same.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
06:41 PM on 06/07/2011
It's a business!
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
dianhow
former Repub till W
12:49 PM on 06/08/2011
HUGE  MASSIVE  BUSINESS
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
06:53 PM on 06/07/2011
These wars were never in the public interest...and now, the public realizes this....time to bring em all home.
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
dianhow
former Repub till W
12:50 PM on 06/08/2011
agreed    and Iraq was based on lies fear and war profits  
  WAR MACHINE  MAKES BILLIONS
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Tuigim
The perils of benefactors...
06:15 PM on 06/07/2011
Front page headline:The War No One Wants
Er...em...eh
No sane / informed individual wants ANY war.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
06:42 PM on 06/07/2011
No, I want the other one -
what was it? SIX WEEKS.
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
dianhow
former Repub till W
12:51 PM on 06/08/2011
actually  many want war