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Swipe Fee Vote Wednesday: Senate Tests Limits Of Wall Street Power

Swipe Fees

First Posted: 06/07/11 09:58 PM ET Updated: 08/07/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The debit card battle that has engulfed lobbyists and lawmakers in the nation's capital all year will come to a head on Wednesday, with a vote set for 2 p.m.

At stake are roughly $16 billion a year in "swipe fees" that merchants pay to banks for the privilege of allowing their customers to shop with plastic. New federal rules aiming to rein in those fees are slated to take effect on July 21, and as the clock ticks down to a final vote, an already bizarre Washington lobbying scramble is getting weirder and wilder.

Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) has been maneuvering all year to woo the 60 votes he needs for a bill that would delay the new rules. And as of Tuesday, he may finally have done so. But he might still lose -- and not because he doesn't have the votes in the GOP-run House. It's because Tester's amendment is tethered to a bill that is itself unlikely to become law. Congress, in other words, is so broken it can't even pass bank-friendly legislation.

Thus far, it's been an epic lobbying battle pitting Wall Street against Walmart, one so heated that Washington insiders jokingly refer to it as "The K Street Full Employment Act."

The melee features a proxy leadership fight in the Democratic Party that depends heavily on Republican votes. It has major implications for the future of campaign financing for both parties. And it has quietly overwhelmed the schedules of Washington's elite for months, even as the news media jumps from the Donald Trump birther circus to Sarah Palin's bus tour.

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), who has been the upper chamber's lead champion for retailers and is pushing for the fee overhaul, has congressional dysfunction as an ally.

On Tuesday, HuffPost asked Durbin about Tester's decision to attach his amendment to a legislative vehicle that is running on empty. Durbin responded with a wide, wry smile, relishing the timeworn congressional jiu-jitsu that pinned Tester without the Montana senator even realizing it. "Well," Durbin said, "we haven't had a lot of luck passing bills in both chambers."

Forget near-record gas prices and 9 percent unemployment. For most of 2011, the Senate has been completely absorbed in a debate over swipe fees. On Tuesday, with cable news programming blasting identical Weinergate details on an endless loop, Democrats and Republicans were locked in closed door meetings to debate swipe fees, preparing for the floor vote on the issue.

Durbin and Tester debated before the Democratic caucus. Nearby, Republicans held a "nice, meaningful dialogue," as Sen. Pat Roberts (Kan.) put it, between Sens. Bob Corker (Tenn.) and Mike Enzi (Wyo.), representing the banks and merchants, respectively.

K Street, which has lobbyists representing banks and merchants, wins either way and is grateful to Durbin for the payday, he says. "A friend of mine who is a lobbyist downtown in Washington said, 'Durbin, praise the Lord. Come up with some more ideas. This is a full employment amendment. Everybody who is a lobbyist in Washington is working on this amendment. We just love you to pieces,'" Durbin recounted on the Senate floor Tuesday afternoon. "Well, the sad reality is, it's coming maybe to a close with a vote on this amendment."

As the vote nears, an accurate whip count is hard to come by. Lobbyists on both sides are uncertain. Senators whom The Huffington Post queried generally said they remained undecided -- often a sign that members of the herd were waiting to see which way the voting stampede might be headed. In Congress, the only thing worse than flip-flopping and angering a powerful industry is going to all that trouble for a losing cause.

Both sides publicly expressed confidence. "We aren’t taking a single vote for granted, but we will have the votes we need with some room to spare," said Brian Dodge, a lobbyist for the retailers.

"Most people have told me how they're going to vote," Durbin said when HuffPost noted his colleagues hesitation. But then he hedged: "They may change their mind. It isn't over."

"If it's a 60-vote threshold, that's hard to get there," said Sen. Richard Shelby (Ala.), the top Republican on the banking panel and a strong Tester backer. The banks got a major boost this week when Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist's group, designated the issue a "key" vote, meaning that breaking with the banks will count against their tax-hawk bona fides.

Tester, with Corker's help, has been pushing for months for a vote. Durbin said he could have pushed it back but decided not to. "He was going to get a vote and the question was when," said Durbin. "I could have delayed it. It reaches a point where I think the arguments have been made, so now let's have a vote."

Tester and Corker initially proposed delaying the new rules for two years. In May, with Tester short of the 60 votes he needed to override Durbin's plan, the pair shortened that delay to 15 months. Still coming up short, they're now asking for just 12 months, as Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) signaled they would in an interview with HuffPost earlier this year. Tester's new bill also allows banks to include more of their costs -- such as executive bonuses -- into the calculus that leads to the maximum swipe fee allowable.

For every month that swipe fee reform is pushed back, banks score $1.35 billion in fees that might otherwise be corralled, according to data from The Nilson Report. But the real strategy for the banks hasn't been delay, it's been to kill the reform outright: First, postpone the rules, then use the extra time to round up votes for a full repeal.

Swipe fee booty comes partly at the expense of consumers, and merchant-funded polling suggests that consumers know it. But Wall Street's swipe fee cashout also comes at the expense of retailers big and small -- otherwise stores wouldn't be flooding Congress with their own lobbyists.

Small businesses have been the public face of the fight for both sides. Although fully half of debit card swipe fee revenue flows to just 10 giant banks, the Wall Street lobby has aggressively courted small banks and credit unions to make the case that they will be hurt by the rules -- even though these small institutions are explicitly exempted from the law.

In his floor speech introducing his bill on Tuesday, Tester claimed the opposite, saying his bill was designed to protect small banks from Wall Street.

"Rural America is what I know. It is where I am from. And as I have watched consolidation in the agriculture industry, I have watched rural America get smaller and smaller," Tester said. "I am not about to let this happen in the financial services industry. Fewer banking options in rural America is a death knell for rural America."

No matter what happens with Tester's bill, any bank or credit union with less than $10 billion in assets can keep charging whatever they want on swipe fees, which currently average about 44 cents per transaction. Last year's financial reform bill required the Federal Reserve to write regulations limiting swipe fees, and on July 21, those rules will go into effect, capping the fees at an average of 12 cents for every transaction.

Despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of credit unions won't be affected by the legislation, the National Association of Federal Credit Unions and the Credit Union National Association -- two big umbrella groups for the industry -- are aggressively lobbying against the Durbin bill. Two of the country's three major credit unions, the Pentagon Federal Credit Union and Navy Federal Credit Union, are behind that effort, which NAFCU CEO Fred Becker acknowledged in a May appearance on CNBC.

"The reason we're against the cap is ... it will in fact impact, today, three credit unions, two of which represent the military that's currently at war serving our country," Becker said. In a subsequent email, Becker said he believes that other credit unions would eventually be hurt, too.

PFCU and NFCU both declined to comment for this report. The other major credit union explicitly affected by the current legislation, the North Carolina State Employees Credit Union has chosen to sit out the debate. SECU has a stellar reputation -- it recently ended its practice of garnishing the wages of debtors out of concern that doing so during a recession amounts to "kicking [people] when they're down."

SECU isn't involved in the swipe fee debate in any way. It isn't even pressuring the credit union trade groups -- NAFCU and CUNA -- to intervene on its behalf.

"We're not taking a position. We'll just wait and see what Congress ends up doing and the Fed ends up and react accordingly," LeAnn Phelps, SECU's senior vice president of card services, told HuffPost. "We don't have any fees on our debit card program and don't intend to add any."

Asked why SECU was not injecting itself into one of the most aggressive lobbying extravaganzas in history, Phelps said, "We don't get out there in the political spotlight. It's just not our culture."

While the vast majority of K Street is cashing in on the swipe fee scuttle, some of the most powerful lobbying forces in Washington have been absent from the debate.

In May, the progressive activist group U.S. Chamber Watch joined the small business associations Main Street Alliance and the American Sustainable Business Council for a conference call with reporters to defend Durbin and the swipe fee crackdown -- and to lambast the U.S. Chamber of Commerce for not taking sides with retailers in the swipe fee debate. The Chamber declined to comment on the matter.

The National Federation of Independent Businesses, a small business lobbying group, has also been sitting out the swipe fee debate even though last year it blasted state legislation in California for protecting "unfair debit card interchange fees" (swipe fees are known as "interchange fees" in the financial world). While bemoaning "enormous" costs to "businesses and consumers," the NFIB suggested that the Visa card network's tremendous market share was allowing the company to engage in anticompetitive behavior that runs afoul of antitrust laws.

The NFIB's critics in the Main Street Alliance contend that the NFIB is more interested in fighting for partisan Republican interests than the bottom line of small retailers. When asked for comment, the NFIB said that it polls its small business members regularly on legislative issues, and that it fights for those issues members identify as priorities -- and that swipe fees haven't met that threshold.

For an issue with only modest implications for most consumers -- one merchant-funded study suggested that households lose a combined $230 per year from swipe fees on credit and debit cards in the form of higher prices -- it's hard to understand why Congress has spent so much of the year embroiled in the debate, given the nation's very serious economic troubles. Campaign contributions associated with the swipe fee scramble may provide some insight as to why that's so.

According to a Huffington Post analysis of Federal Election Commission filings, members of the Electronic Payments Coalition, which represents banks, spent $2.5 million in the swipe fee battle from January to April alone.

Whichever side wins in Wednesday's vote, the lesson from swipe fee reform is clear: big business dominates the congressional agenda. If you want to win in Washington, hitch yourself to a corporate conglomerate or be banished to legislative obscurity.

Paul Blumenthal contributed reporting

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02:04 PM on 06/10/2011
let's outlaw all credit cards and debit cards, this will help the economy as we'll need more security guards at all the ATM's, retail stores, gas stations, etc. and will decrease taxes as it will help the 'underground" economy . let's get back to the good old days, cash only !!
10:10 AM on 06/09/2011
Wow. Tester seems bought and paid for. I wish politics were like NASCAR so we could see who's team is behind the driver.
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kidcat24
Capital is only the fruit of labor. Lincoln
03:06 PM on 06/08/2011
Three major bills to create jobs and the Republicans have canned them all.
01:41 PM on 06/08/2011
The Banks After we bailed them out, want to in-cress fees so they can pay for top execs party's at the house hold budgets expense your household budgets expense. I Dont think so burn your credit cards. If this passes we may have to stop charging. on our credit cards. no fee for me k. I refuse to pay Their Fees. so should you you call this working to help the economy after they took everyones house? I Say B---s---. thats lining their pockets... Stop Washington from burning us to the ground. Economic lee..... Vote them out that vote yes.....All of them period
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01:09 PM on 06/08/2011
We're a bit too deep in the details of this current snarl and not stepping back to the real picture (similarly to how our employment debate is similarly lacking).

Having the assets be less physical (electronic funds) prevents certain kinds of loss since even if you lose or have your card(s) (access to the assets) stolen you can easily/quickly turn them off. Some new dangers do appear in form transition such as the potential for false ACH transfers or data loss/theft from the "holding" bank but these are simply the sameold risks for counterfit cash/bank robbery just transferred over to the new medium.

When you consider these concepts along with the cost of printing/maintaining physical currency and the requirements to count/store it we should be changing modes to move OFF the physical security wherever possible and allow additional flexibiliy/convenience for using electronic funds.

Physical currency will soon be an anachronism and should be treated as such. Electronic currency should not be assigned arbitrary cost schedules unassociated to their costs, particularly above the standard that cash is held to.
12:36 PM on 06/08/2011
What bothers me the most is the fact that not only was it these educated idiots that got us into this mess but after bailing out the Saving and Loan in the 70’s there were a number of them that ended up in jail. What the Banks/Wall Street did this time was a heck of a lot worse and with criminal intent. If it was not done with criminal intent there would have been a little transparency. Yet when we talk about filling the hole and shrinking the debt NO ONE seems to want to bring up going where the problems started and the cause of those problems being the solution, like a trade fee for every trade done on Wall Street and/or Banks paying a service fee for lack of service. We bailed them out and now they have HUNG US OUT. They do not want to pitch in but want to keep any regulations to a minimal when in fact they have proven once again they need to be REGULATED for their own good and the good of Our Country. As our so called Representatives and Wall Street/Banks have allowed GREED to influence their decisions it would only seem the correct path to insure THEIR GREED cannot once again SCREW THE PEOPLE. We cannot count on the wolves (Representatives) to watch the chicken house and do the right thing, this has been a fact for years.
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12:32 PM on 06/08/2011
"Google officially unveils "Google Wallet," which takes shoppers a step closer to paying for goods by waving their mobile phones at the checkout counter".

We are going deeper down the rabbit hole.
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12:26 PM on 06/08/2011
Banks have been very successful in turning their problems into OUR responsibility where ever it will positively affect their bottom line.

How else can you explain bank fraud being turned into "identity theft"?
Need another revenue stream? Create a fee.
Need to increase revenues? Raise the fees.
Make bad investments, piss away pension funds, wreck the economy and still want to do the same thing over and over again? Get a bailout from taxpayers because you're too big to fail.

And since big money is paying the people in Washington we'll never see relief, at least not before the whole house of cards implodes.
12:14 PM on 06/08/2011
What a huge dilemma for a Prog: do you side with Wal-Mart or JP Morgan Chase?

This is like trying to pick between the Empire or Sauron.
12:50 PM on 06/08/2011
We might not like giants like Walmart, but every business in the country faces the same rules - the banks get to charge fees for using their credit card, but they dont have to disclose the amount of those fees to the retailers, they can make that fee anything they want, and it's immensely disproportionate to the costs they incur for the transaction. If you buy something for $100 online, the bank might charge $5 and it's an entirely electronic transaction,IE low cost. If you buy something online for $5000, the bank might charge $250, yet the cost of that transaction was the same for them. I'm not against them getting a fee they can profit from, but it needs to be transparent, a set amount, and realistic.

Imagine if gas stations charged you by the tankful as a percentage of your vehicles value. The more your car is worth, the higher you pay for the same exact service, but you dont know what that percentage is until you get your bill at the end of the month - and then you find out one station charged you 4%, while another charged you 7%, ect,ect.

Abolish interchange fees and raise the minimum wage to $9/hr - every retailer that accepts credit cards will still come out ahead, every minimum wage worker will be far better off, and the banks will still get enough to turn a decent profit.
12:55 PM on 06/08/2011
"the banks get to charge fees for using their credit card, but they dont have to disclose the amount of those fees to the retailers, they can make that fee anything they want,"

This isn't accurate. Every merchant makes their own deal with the processor or card company. Every merchant knows what the fee is and many times the merchant can and does negotiate a fee that is fixed, not a percentage of every transaction. The retailers who are fighting for this are the mega ones like Target and Wal Mart. The mom and pop hardware store will NOT want this because the card companies will just refuse to allow them to use plastic forcing them to handle only cash (robberies) and checks (fraud and bounces).

Barney Frank said it best, this is a massive figth between massive companies, so just let them fight it out in a negotiation. The average consumer and small business has no dog in the fight over pennies a transaction that Wal Mart pays to JP Morgan.
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12:53 PM on 06/08/2011
The empire at least cares *a little bit* for it's employees and for a good long time attended the federation's government meetings and probably handled some menial business for them. Sauron is much more evil and isn't even corporeal. I would definitely vote for the Empire.
01:32 PM on 06/08/2011
That's the most geektacular post ever on huffpo
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NHGranite
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12:01 PM on 06/08/2011
Maybe we need to change the lexicon. It's not a swipe fee, it's a CREDIT CARD TAX. The Republicans take a vow to not raise taxes, and whether this fits the full definition of a tax, IT IS A TAX that goes to support the banks we already own because we saved them with our TAX MONEY.
12:12 PM on 06/08/2011
All of that money was paid back, so there is no public ownership stake in the banks anymore. And it's not a tax, but a convenience fee. If you don't want to pay the fee to the merchant than maybe you can carry around a bag of gold coins to Macy's to buy some socks.
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NHGranite
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12:35 PM on 06/08/2011
Hey Hayek, tell us why they paid it back. They couldn't give themselves outrageous bonuses for breaking the country under TARP. Did they pay us interest, or fees for swiping, processing and re-stocking money (ha) ? Tell me what your business is, so I can avoid it because you certainly don't understand that those fees are like beer to you, it just passes through you. Don't want to contribute to your business, neither of us are at fault, but you chose to blame your customers and defend the credit card usurers.
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11:47 AM on 06/08/2011
This is mind boggling! How can ANY elected rep endorse any more fees for use of plastic? As it is, most Americans have trouble just paying for lights and heat. (A/C here in TX.), and they want to slap more fees (read taxes) on us. Even if the fees are directed at the merchants, who do they think actually pays those fees. Knock Knock, it's the taxpayers. We all shop, and we all hate it when OUR cost of living goes up and we WILL take the appropriate action. (Read that vote)
12:18 PM on 06/08/2011
This is not really what's happening. This debate is not about raising any fees. The debate is the so called Durbin amendment which reduces the fees banks are allowed to charge the merchants which of course the Wal Marts and Home Depots of the world will pocket and not send on to consumers. Meanwhile, the banks will increase debit usage fees or stop free checking which has been funded by debit card fees for years.

So in essence, Durbin is a massive wealth transfer from consuemrs to merchants like Wal-Mart via banks.
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12:39 PM on 06/08/2011
Disclosure of fees - that's it. You don't really understand merchants other than mega big ones. It's already our money passing through the merchant to the CC companies. You sound like you are paid to be here. Collect your nickel and go.
Apologists for big banks not needed.
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11:34 AM on 06/08/2011
If you ask me, debit cards are dangerous as potential hackers can drain your account without the same protection as a credit card. Best thing to do, pay with CA$H.
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11:58 AM on 06/08/2011
I realize that debit cards don't have same protection as credit card, but how do you hack a debit card? Thought you had to have the PIN. Also, can't you request your debit be run as credit?
12:15 PM on 06/08/2011
You are correct on both counts.
EndTheGOP
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11:23 AM on 06/08/2011
This does nothing to help the American people. This is a waste of time, a waste of taxpayer dollars. The minor changes in these lackluster regulations will result in new account fees that the banks will pass to consumers, which will cost them a bunch of $$ to implement, thereby causing a further increase in account charges. Go after the big issues, don't waste time on this window dressing cr@p. Break up the big banks, break up the big "too big to fail" corporations. With each mega-merger, more American jobs are lost, less competition in the market exists. Do something that helps the American people, please!
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11:23 AM on 06/08/2011
Have not read it, will check into it.  Your name, are u a foreigner like me?  Nice exchange of ideas, thank you!
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11:19 AM on 06/08/2011
Banks= and their "greed is good" CEO's slowly destroying America one swipe at a time.