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China Communist Party Sees No end To Rule

China Communist Party

First Posted: 06/09/11 10:30 AM ET Updated: 08/09/11 06:12 AM ET

BEIJING (Reuters) – China's Communist Party sees no reason why it cannot stay in power indefinitely, having made the nation into the envy of the world with its economic success, one of the Party's top official historians said on Thursday.

Li Zhongjie, a deputy head of the Party's History Research Center, made it clear that China will use the impending 90th anniversary of the Party's founding as a time for rousing pride, rather than reflection on a history that has spanned war, revolution, mass famine and deadly purges.

Under the Party's rule, China had made leapfrog developments, Li told a news conference, and he said it was foolish to expect any party to want to give up power.

"Over the last 90 years, especially the last 30 years of reform and opening up, we have made major achievements. This is something the world basically recognizes," Li said, ahead of the Party's anniversary of its 1921 founding on July 1.

"I could ask, 'Mr. Obama, does your Democratic Party still want to contest the election'? Do you still want to stay in power? They would think that a weird question. Of course our Party hopes to remain in power.

"...Objectively, the issue is rather: how is your rule, and how effective is it? Is it welcomed by the people? Are you running the country well, or into the ground? The Communist Party has built China to what it is today. Many countries in the world are extremely envious. So why can't we carry on? It's a very simple question."

His impassioned answer drew applause from the audience, made up mainly of state media and Chinese academics, with a smattering of foreign reporters.

While the Party's rule has seen China become the world's second-largest economy, lift millions out of abject poverty and put men in space, critics say it has come at the expense of individual freedoms, with the Party brooking no dissent.

Under the late Mao Zedong, China went through disasters such as the 1958 Great Leap Forward campaign to catapult it to prosperity, but ended in a three-year famine in which an estimated 30 million people starved to death.

"Objectively speaking, Comrade Mao made some mistakes later in his life, which created major damage," Li said. "But looking at Mao's whole life, his achievements should be put first, and his mistakes second ... He established 'New China' and socialism's basic system.

"We should 'seek truth from the facts' in analyzing and researching the lessons from Mao's mistakes," he added. "What Mao hoped to do, we should ensure we do even better."

Pressed after the news conference on whether China would one day set up a public memorial to those who suffered during the Great Leap Forward, or the chaos of the 1966-76 Cultural Revolution, Li answered cryptically: "We are making overall plans. It's being considered."

But there would be no atonement for the bloody crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrators around Tiananmen Square in 1989, which the Party these days labels a "political disturbance."

"We have already reached a solemn conclusion," Li said. "There's really nothing more to say."

(Editing by Nick Macfie)

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10:58 PM on 06/10/2011
If the posts on here are any example of what people are learning in college we are in trouble!
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04:47 PM on 06/10/2011
There is a Chinese concept that hearkens back to the Shang Dynasty over 3000 years ago. It's called the Mandate of Heaven. When a dynasty governs well and the country is rising and prosperous it has the Mandate. When the country is in disarray, and failing the Mandate is withdrawn and a new dynasty is installed. The Shang in their last years were known for their extravagance and corruption. They were replaced by the Zhou. The last years of the Zhou dynasty were marked by internal dissension and fragmentation. It was replaced by the short-lived Qin Dynasty that reunited China and established the modern Chinese state. The Qin Emperor's brutal rule set the course for China's next two millenia but was soon replaced by the more liberal and mercantile Han Dynasty and so on and so forth.

The corrupt Kuomintang regime lost its Mandate to the Communists under Mao who's regime was greatly influenced by the totalitarian legalism of the Qin Dynasty. The Chinese see Mao as a modern day Qin Emperor. He reestablished the Chinese state and set the course for its modern development. The Tanshan Earthquake signaled the loss of the Mandate by the "Mao Dynasty." The current "Deng Dynasty" has retained the Mandate as it has successfully returned China to prosperity and greatness. It is the modern day equivalent of the Han Dynasty. It will maintain the Mandate until it too fails to meet the needs and expectations of Heaven, i.e. the Chinese people.
08:07 AM on 06/11/2011
While you were skimming the Cliffsnotes of Chinese Philosophy in the hopes of impressing everyone you should have stopped to look up the definition of "dynasty."
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10:26 AM on 06/11/2011
Don't know why I bother, but you are a particularly ignorant person who needs some education. First, let me say that I'm thrilled that you seem to think what I wrote would impress anyone.The only reason I posted it was because I know that 99% of the American people , like yourself, have a kindergarteners knowledge and understanding of China. I'll continue, just for the fun of it. I know full well the definition of dynasty and used the term in quotations when referring to post-imperial modern Chinese history. But apparently you do not understand the conventions of this subtle sort of dialog.
02:04 PM on 06/10/2011
The American corporations outsourcing jobs to China at the expense of American jobs, is nothing more than corporate funding of a communist regime. Growing up amidst the Cold War, I thought America was against communism. I remember the government saying our involvement in Vietnam was to stop the spread of communism. So why, and how, are these overpaid American execs allowed to import our middle class jobs there in the first place, being the communist nation that they are?
08:11 AM on 06/11/2011
You don't want cheap manufacturing jobs here, and China today is communist in just about name (and totalitarian brutality) only.
10:48 AM on 06/12/2011
I didn't work in a cheap labor manufacturing job. I'm a technical specialist and have always been middle class. Now, because of the outsourcing, I'm forced to consider jobs at half my usual pay, that might not even pay the bills. The corporations are directly attacking the middle class, because their greed now controls them, instead of the other way around, and they have to be stopped. If I end up in a tent city. I'm going to make somebody pay for that! And I won't be alone either.
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01:29 PM on 06/10/2011
The worst day in America is better than the best day anywhere else, especially a communist country! God bless America!!
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Protocolor
Have maths, will travel.
06:18 PM on 06/10/2011
I don't know about that. I've had some pretty bad days in America (disclaimer: Have had really good ones in America too, but the worst of the bad ones were really terrible). Likewise I've had amazingly awesome days in China (lots of them, actually). On the balance, China is coming out ahead in my experience so far.

Of course, that's just my experience. Your mileage may vary.
08:15 AM on 06/11/2011
You gotta admit there is a vast difference between being a privileged waiguoren in China and being a poor farmer or factory worker (or political dissident) there.
11:46 PM on 06/12/2011
You know that China is not a communist country any more. Rather, it is a completely capitalist country just like USA.
06:38 AM on 06/13/2011
Not completely.
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Ryan Devine
12:53 PM on 06/10/2011
It is really cute how Americans view China as some monstrous human rights violator with out looking at the first hundred plus years of their own history.

America 1789-Now: Slavery of African Americans. Removal, Extermination, and Attempted Assimilation of Native Americans. Subtle Global Imperialism. Suppression of women's rights. Japanese Internment Camps. Chain Gangs. Attempted Assassination of World Leaders who's policies they disagree with. Aggressive Invasion of Sovereign nations for the "greater good."

China pales in comparison and has already advanced far past our own evolution towards a more civilized state. I mean they might not have google yet, or even be fully free to elect whom they will, but neither did the original Americans unless they were white, landed, literate, chrtistian males.
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10:55 PM on 06/10/2011
You have got to be kidding. This is a civilization over 5000 years old and their recent prosperity is a direct result of American corporations doing businees with them. American consumers have put these people on the map. America giveth and America will taketh away!
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Ryan Devine
11:08 PM on 06/10/2011
Maybe 25 years ago. Now America owes China, and without China the entire American economy would collapse. America produces almost nothing and relies on other countries willingness to trade in lieu of immediate payment.
08:18 AM on 06/11/2011
It's really NOT "cute" how you are doing exactly what you complain about, only in the opposite direction.
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Ryan Devine
02:13 PM on 06/11/2011
youre cute.
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10:15 AM on 06/10/2011
Totalitarianism is great at corraling resources to make capitalism work. It does little for individual freedoms or the rule of law. But we have already seen Obama's greenshirts extolling the "virtues" of the Chinese political system. What they lack in intelligence they sure make up in consistency.
09:45 AM on 06/10/2011
1.There are 1.3 billion chinese, 70 million CCP members.

2.Where do the soldiers that make up the CCP come from? THEY COME FROM THIS population of 1.3 billion. The military is made from your average normal everyday citizen.

3.The right to govern can only be given by having the consent of the governed.

4.If the chinese people do not want the CCP then the CCP would have be overthrown­.
08:31 AM on 06/11/2011
Hmmm...not so simple...
09:38 AM on 06/10/2011
we should invite the chinese here to teach us how to convert our disfunctional govt to a one party communist system. would be best for us and world peace
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10:10 AM on 06/10/2011
Barry's on that road already.
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Protocolor
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06:30 PM on 06/10/2011
Here's a progressive that agrees with you.

What America has in actuality is a one party system in which that one party (the Capitalist Party) is divided into two factions that have the same goal (protect the interests of the rich) but just disagree on the details of exactly how to do that. Any major disagreement is just theatre.
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01:09 PM on 06/10/2011
I have a better idea, why don't you give up your American citizenship and move to China
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08:57 AM on 06/10/2011
Obama can always get a job there in 2012 !!
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08:27 AM on 06/10/2011
I remember when we called them Red China, and demonized them. But then, people discovered an endless supply of worker bees, and began trading with them, then moved everything to be manufactured there, from clothing and shoes to tech equipment. And the democracy movement in
Tiananmen Square, which led to a massacre? Forgotten. But Gaddafi, let's get him.

What hypocrisy.
09:07 AM on 06/10/2011
Yeah. In addition to their large numbers, the Chinese also have a nuclear arsenal. That explains a lot.
07:31 AM on 06/10/2011
Wonder if Mr.Li had any kin amongst the 30 million???
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HanMeiRen
May already be guilty by association...
06:43 AM on 06/10/2011
CCP, the servants of the Chinese people, want to serve the Chinese forever and ever.

What’s wrong with that?
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HanMeiRen
May already be guilty by association...
06:13 AM on 06/11/2011
If it is not obvious I was being sarcastic.
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Sean Connolly
04:01 AM on 06/10/2011
performance legitimacy. look it up. This is why the Chinese people have by and large accepted and even prefer their style of governance since the 1989 protests.

corruption is still the main source of public concern, but it's not entirely worse than corruption in the US government. top Party officials can get away with a lot often, but so can US politicians. Sure American politicians can't openly siphon public funds, but they can help out their corporate buddies. is that not corruption? not according to any corruption index out there...
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Sean Connolly
03:54 AM on 06/10/2011
awesome. Long Live Chairman Mao! Mao Zhuxi Wansui!
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03:26 PM on 06/10/2011
Zhe zhe.
02:37 AM on 06/10/2011
It is the Corporate out sourcing that has made China what
it is; and it is something that the the GOP donors love about
China cheep almost slave labor.
09:09 AM on 06/10/2011
You got that right. That's where my job went, after I even saved these corporate dudes a quarter of a million dollars, with one act of initiative. Good business my rump, it's all about greed for these people, and their ruining America, as a whole, in the process.