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Tea Party Gears Up For 2012 In Contentious School Voucher Fight

Freedomworks

First Posted: 06/12/11 02:37 PM ET Updated: 08/12/11 06:12 AM ET

HARRISBURG, Pa. -– The fight over school vouchers in Pennsylvania is a test of whether the Tea Party can transition from a protest movement into sustained political activism. They might yet make the grade, but they're hitting plenty of bumps along the way.

A forum in Shippensburg, Pa., on June 6 showed how the voucher issue has raised serious questions among the Tea Party rank and file.

Tim Hughes, a local furniture store owner, told a panel of policy experts and national campaign coordinators from the Washington-based group FreedomWorks that he didn't think the voucher bill was necessarily a good use of his taxpayer money.

"We're coming to a point where… if I'm going to survive to eat the fish tomorrow, I've got to think about today," Hughes said. "I can't think about, 'Well I've got to think about helping all these other people get a fish for tomorrow.' And I know that sounds selfish, but yet at the same time that's just a reality of where the economy is, for the most part."

The crowd was small: 11 people showed up to hear four panelists talk about the details of the voucher bill. Many of the questions were skeptical, especially as the session wore on and it became clear that the vouchers would only go to low-income students for the first few years of the program. The audience was also dubious that the program would ever be expanded beyond poor students, now that it is being whittled down in the state legislature's budget negotiations.

The stakes of the fight have much to do with 2012. FreedomWorks, a national conservative group, is trying to both keep local Tea Party activists engaged and build a grassroots network.

"A lot of what we're going to be talking about in the next year before the next election in 2012 is, how do we win battles?" said Brendan Steinhauser, who oversees political campaigns for FreedomWorks, to the attendees in Shippensburg. "And how can we build our organizations at the local level, the local community level, so that we have a real machine going in 2012? So that we can make some real changes at the ballot box like we did in 2010."

"I want you all to think about this battle [for school vouchers] in particular in that context -- in terms of how we get there from here," he added.

Amanda Shell, a young FreedomWorks staffer who sat on the panel with Steinhauser, tried to persuade Hughes to think broader, but her exhortation ended up being more of a lecture.

"Education reform should be a statewide concern, not just limited to which counties or districts we live in. As a Pennsylvanian, you should want your entire state to be better educated," she told Hughes. "I would hope that more people would see it as a broader issue."

A woman in the audience responded to Shell.

"Everybody is sick of taxes. And now we're coming up with another program which is going to involve more money and it's going to start on the lower-income side," the woman said. "People are tired of having to pay and pay and pay and see no results."

"People aren't looking at the state. They're looking at themselves," she explained. "They're looking at, 'I'm working two, three jobs just to get my family settled and now we're going to do this other thing for the poor... and I'm getting poor.'"

Nathan Benefield, a policy analyst at the conservative Commonwealth Foundation who sat on the panel, tried to describe how -- after an initial bump in costs -- the voucher program would save money in the long run. Students who took the $5,000 voucher payments toward a school of their choice would end up costing taxpayers less than the $14,000 a year the state currently spends on each of its students, he said.

But in the short term, the concerns about spending are real. The initial cost to launch the program has been estimated at around $250 million over the first two years. That's no small sum for a state that is trying to dig out of a $4.5 billion budget deficit.

The attendees' complaints reflected the difficult economic realities that transcend political ideology and have driven much of the Tea Party agitation.

After the meeting, Ben Rice, an employee at a local 911 emergency call center and a member of the Franklin County Tea Party, was frustrated with the questions.

"You could tell the Libertarians, the pure Tea Party, believes it's welfare. We need to educate them," he said. "There's a disconnect there between the Tea Party and a conservative push on this. We have to bridge that gap."

There is a simple explanation for why some in a movement that focused so narrowly on pocketbook issues in the fall elections have shifted away from purely budgetary matters. Gov. Tom Corbett (R-Pa.) is cutting spending, so there is little reason for local conservatives to be upset. In other words, it's easier to be against something than it is to be for something.

FreedomWorks is collaborating with local activists to push the governor to act more forcefully on voucher legislation. It was introduced into the GOP-controlled Senate as the first bill this year, but the schools legislation has now stalled. The conservative group is frustrated that Corbett -– who talked about school choice in his inauguration speech -– is not cracking skulls to pass controversial bills like Govs. Scott Walker (R-Wis.) and John Kasich (R-Ohio) have done in their states.

"There is definitely a lack of courage and leadership," Steinhauser said at the forum, referring to Corbett, the state's former attorney general.

"He's no Scott Walker," he said later in an interview with HuffPost. "I keep hearing, 'it's not his personality to really call someone up and go LBJ on them.' So I get that. But we would like to see him be more -- making the calls, calling the meetings. Like, he should be having a press conference with House and Senate saying, 'We're going to get this done.'"

Steinhauser and others said that if Corbett had pushed hard for the voucher bill early in the year, he could have built political momentum going into the budget battle. Now, they say, the school issue is mixed in with the budget talks making it inevitable that, if anything passes at all, it will be a watered down version.

Another Republican involved in Pennsylvania politics put it more bluntly: "The understanding is that Corbett has just fucked it up."

Corbett's office did not return phone calls, but Stephen Miskin, a spokesman for the state's House Majority Leader Mike Turzai, took the comparison to Wisconsin as a favorable one. He cited news reports this past week that said Wisconsin's GOP-controlled Senate is rushing to pass bills because Republican legislators fear that they may lose their majority due to a series of recalls. Those voter initiatives were sparked by the passage of a bill to roll back the collective bargaining rights of state government employee unions.

"We're not going to be losing our majority. We are planning to govern for a number of years. And governing means building a consensus and getting things done," Miskin said. "I know some people are disappointed but Pennsylvania truly is not a dictatorship."

Current polling supports the idea that the Pennsylvania GOP's more cautious approach is a smarter electoral strategy than the actions of Republicans in Wisconsin and Ohio. Corbett's numbers are not great, but they are better than those for Walker and Kasich.

Of course, the Tea Party was largely created in response to outrage over politicians making every decision with an eye to protecting their own political futures. So while Pennsylvania's GOP may be limiting their negatives, they may also be putting a ceiling on the support they'll receive from their base.

FreedomWorks is trying to change the GOP's political calculus.

Some 36 hours after the Shippensburg forum, Shell and Steinhauser and other FreedomWorks personnel, along with locals like Rice, stood on the steps in front of the state Capitol building. Their purpose? To send a thinly veiled threat to Republican lawmakers on the fence about the voucher bill.

David Spielman, the group's campaigns coordinator, said that if Senate Bill 1 is not passed by the time that budget negotiations are finished at the end of June, FreedomWorks will send out a list to Republican voters of which GOP lawmakers voted against it -- and how much money they took in campaign contributions from the teachers union.

"We are here to make it quite clear," Spielman said. "We want this bill passed."

Steinhauser said the group was willing "to do whatever it takes to get this done, to spend the money we need to spend to get this done -- whether it’s with grassroots efforts lobbying now or looking at the elections next year."

However, there were only five Pennsylvanians at the press conference, less than the seven staffers and interns from FreedomWorks' Washington office. A statehouse reporter from the Allentown, Pa., Morning Call gleefully mocked the event.

Ana Puig, a mother of four from the Philadelphia suburbs who attended the rally, has become a key Tea Party organizer in the state. She and another former stay-at-home mom, Anastasia Przybylski, led get out the vote efforts last year and are now lobbying the governor and state lawmakers with two- and three-day trips to the Capitol every week.

Puig voiced some exasperation that many who rallied for the Tea Party in last year's elections are not involved in the legislative process during a non-election year.

"I don't think they get it," she said of the majority of Tea Party voters. "They think this is the off-season. We have five new Republicans in Congress, so -- woo hoo -- we can sit back and relax? That's not the case at all."

"We need to move beyond just elections. Elections are not enough anymore," Puig added. The school voucher issue "is just as important, if not more important."

Despite the problems mobilizing support for the voucher bill, Commonwealth's Benefield said it's still a great opportunity for conservatives. The policy analyst predicted that a stripped down version of Senate Bill 1 would be passed as part of the budget by the end of the month.

"This is the first time the Tea Party movement -– and the first in a long time for conservatives and Republicans in Pennsylvania -– has been able to go on offense, trying to achieve a policy victory rather than simple beating back a bad agenda," he said.

Steinhauser said there is an opportunity -– by working with black Democrats in the state legislature like Sen. Anthony Wiliams, who represents southwest Philadelphia –- to undo some of the negative associations the Tea Party has accumulated.

"Everybody always attacks the Tea Party guys as, 'They're a bunch of racists,'" Steinhauser said. "We're working with Tony Williams and his constituents on school choice for low-income students in failing schools: inner-city Philadelphia, Harrisburg, Pittsburgh."

And, he said, activists like Puig and Przybylski will be key to getting out the vote when the Republican presidential nominee tries to defeat President Barack Obama.

"We're building these little networks and getting to know people that we didn't even know before," Steinhauser said. "So if I can just keep them involved -- especially the leadership -- then when it gets real exciting, and everybody comes out of the woodwork, it's like, 'These guys are trained.'"

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CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story identified the governor of Pennsylvania as Jack Corbett. He is Tom Corbett.

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elfish 03:22 PM on 06/12/2011
Finland Has the Top Stundent Test scores in the World. They do it by doing every thing the opposite of Republicans. ---------> 1. No standardized Tests ---------> 2. No Privatized schools. ---------> 3. No charter schools. ---------> 4. 100% of the Teacher belong to Unions. ---------> 5. They do it by keeping child poverty rates low. The Child poverty rate in Finland is less than 3%. In the  Read More...
01:31 PM on 06/15/2011
Don't worry if you don't get vouchers you will get charter schools, just a more deceptive way to hijack public funds to provide separate and unequal funding for all. With Obama's right wing education policy you can't lose either way.
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Jeannette Lacey
06:08 PM on 06/14/2011
When I was growing up, public schools were great. We all learned reading, writing, math, history, English, foreign languages. We read literature and were able to segue into society easily and with aplomb. Although I am against vouchers, I have to agree with some that there is plenty amiss in our public schools today. I believe it is discipline. Call me a Nazi but I believe every school needs a strict dress code, strong emphasis on the fundamentals of learning, parent support and more power to discipline the students for schools and teachers. No, they don't need to hit the kids - we weren't hit - but we respected our teachers and the principal and knew we were in deep doo doo if we acted up. Also, nutrition plays a big part in student performance. Bring back good, wholesome school lunches without candy, soda, fries or any of the things we were not allow to have in school when we were kids. I agree that we should be getting more for our tax buck than what we get now but this is due to tying teachers’ and administrator’s hands regarding strong discipline.
06:27 PM on 06/14/2011
You're kidding about school lunches being healthier, 'back in the day,' right?
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PELAGIUS2
PAC NW by birth Celtic Quaker by the grace of God
06:48 PM on 06/14/2011
Back in the dark ages most schools had cafeterias with kitchens and cooks. Nobody knew what a chicken mcnugget was. The food was pretty similar to what we ate at home. I forget what the menu cycle was; as in how often peanut butter and honey sandwiches with carrot and celery sticks came around. I'll admit that chile and corn bread was a heck of a lot more popular than those sandwiches. But, they did publish the lunch menu a week at a time so we had enough warning to brown bag it. This was a small town school so you ate what was on the menu, brought your own, or went home for lunch. It didn't matter if it was a closed campus or not there wasn't anyplace else to go.

Actually, this was so far into the dark ages that vending machines hadn't found their way into schools and soda was something you took with your lunch during bean picking season. Now that I think about it, those cooks at the high school did turn out a really killer chili.
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PELAGIUS2
PAC NW by birth Celtic Quaker by the grace of God
06:03 PM on 06/14/2011
I'd like to tell a story about a teacher. He was my brother in law and he taught US History and careers at Umatilla High School for nearly twenty years. He helped start the cross country program; coached that and track for almost that long.

He died suddenly last year and the family held the service at the high school gym. Everything was set up with family seating in front of one set of bleachers and facing the other. It was getting close to time to start when the principal announced "folks we need to rearrange things; this side is almost full and we've still got people backed up to the sidewalks waiting to get in." They damn near filled that gym to say goodbye to coach Rick.

We forget that being a good teacher goes beyond book knowledge or what can be measured on a test. If getting his student's attention meant promising to dress up in a purple tutu and wear it to class all day, he'd do it. My sister, their sons and those surrogate sons and daughters were his life.
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Jeannette Lacey
05:56 PM on 06/14/2011
'I'm working two, three jobs just to get my family settled and now we're going to do this other thing for the poor... and I'm getting poor.'" BINGO!!!! You are finally getting it. Average people are not enjoying the "prosperity gospel" preached by the Right and the TP about low taxes...if that were true we'd all be millionaires and everyone would have a job. Companies would be creating jobs here instead of hoarding their cash and overworking their employees. Maybe now they can see that they have more in common with those "other poor deadbeats" than they do with the Kochs the othe rich right wingers who have lead the TP movement.
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riverwester
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02:07 PM on 06/14/2011
with walker and the fitzgerald boys in charge here in WI seems the tpers are getting their' way. but that's just a side note. no one. is covering. what is happening in madison today. and i am surprised and concerned by that. things are gearing up in committee. since an "extraordinary session" has been called (the gop is not going to abide by ANY rules anyway) normal legislative "law" has been suspended. the assembly could vote at 4 tonite. extra state troopers bussed in today. Nat'l guard at the ready. extra regular cops. Rt wing talk show hosts calling for violence against peaceful protestors. good job ignoring actual news MSM!
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dadw5boys
Disabled Vietnam Vet
10:56 AM on 06/14/2011
Religious Schools protect the little sheep then at 18 TURN THEM OUT TO THE WOLVES !!!

A Religious School here gets around teaching the kids to read in their Kindergarden by reading to the kids instead of teaching words and reading of words.

Had one mine there for a month and got him out of there fast and into Public School. He is now headed for Medical School at 17 years old.

The only failings of Public Education I see is the outside influences on schools. Schools should keep social aspects of American Life out of schools even if it takes dress codes. Turing to Religion is a real silly move and paying the Religious Schools with Tax Money is just STUPID !
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Onlygodknowswhy
and you are not god
05:10 AM on 06/14/2011
So you righties think we are stupid and dont know what best for our children.
I like that talkin point.
Thank you tksensel.
Thanks alot.
I like that alot.
06:31 PM on 06/14/2011
I am sure YOU know what is best for YOUR children.
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Onlygodknowswhy
and you are not god
04:21 AM on 06/14/2011
So we are.going to change the schools into private.profit run.
The cheapest price for education.
What is profittable not practicalgreat wwatch.tuition go up like private colleges.
No cost controls just profit over education.
I wonder what school will cost with a 30% profit.
Will it be cheaper.
Lets just let the companies suck up the money.
And blame your kids or better yet your teachers just blame it o. Teachers.
Then strip their rigjts so they can make more profit.
Sounds like the race to the bottom.
04:43 AM on 06/14/2011
It would be nice to watch quality go up like private colleges. Our higher education, based on competition, is by far the best in the world; our k-12, not so much.
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Onlygodknowswhy
and you are not god
05:05 AM on 06/14/2011
Not according to right wing talk show hosts.
We dont know what best for our child.
That talkin point works both ways.
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Onlygodknowswhy
and you are not god
05:08 AM on 06/14/2011
Ya and.healthcare would be cheaper with hospitals competing.
How about oil.
They all raise their rates at the same time.
And they cherry pick their students.
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Onlygodknowswhy
and you are not god
04:14 AM on 06/14/2011
They hate the.union because they dont control them.
The rich.cant buy them.
Thats why they hatevthe union.
04:43 AM on 06/14/2011
You got that backwards.
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Onlygodknowswhy
and you are not god
05:00 AM on 06/14/2011
Not true.
What has the rich not tried to take over.
Whay sector of the economy is not domainated by the rich.name one.
Unions very good now take your lolly and go away little one.
11:35 PM on 06/13/2011
Lets give all students in public schools vouchers for
the schools that their parents wish...then we can really dumb down the kids.
04:44 AM on 06/14/2011
Because parents don't know what's best for their own children?
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Onlygodknowswhy
and you are not god
05:12 AM on 06/14/2011
Good talkin point im going to use that one thanks.
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madisonhack
I prefer not to......
05:34 PM on 06/14/2011
No - some don't.
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theobserver4
progress is a process not an end result
11:10 PM on 06/13/2011
How amusing that these people are marching lockstep to hasten their own children's demise. Vouchers have been dreamed up so rich people can get a refund on their private schools, just like Ryan's Rations Medicare plan they will end up costing more than what you currently contribute in taxes AND quality will decline as well because your kids in Kansas aren't going to the Friendship Academy, they're going to 7th Day bible camp. The schools that you'll be able to send your kids to utilizing those coupons will be lucky to have a computer and will of course be a black hole for the poor.

All so people can get their undeserved coupon for private school now.
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wmholt
You can't not know. You can't not care.
11:02 PM on 06/13/2011
I've always been impressed by how much the Tea-Party is interested in education. Learn, learn, learn. Just try to tear a book out of their hands. It's impossible!
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DEXTERMORGAN
Slicing And Dicing
11:30 PM on 06/13/2011
Yes learning the ABC's is always fascinating.
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wayne the pain
06:04 PM on 06/13/2011
Vouchers are a way to kill the best free public education system in the world. It helps break down the wall of separation of church and state. A wall that the founding fathers built and the religious right wants to destroy. Vouchers will create the most segregated schools in the world outside South Africa. Our tax dollars will be spent in schools that have no accountability to anyone. These are the reasons the Tea Party wants vouchers and not better education!
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K August
Research alecexposed
06:36 PM on 06/13/2011
True.

"a right-wing "education reform" organization founded and funded by religious right activist multimillionaire Betsy DeVos (former Republican candidate for governor of Michigan and sister of Blackwater founder Erik Prince) and dedicated to electing state legislators who'll fund Christian schools with taxpayer money and crush public employees' unions."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/09/974560/-Hundreds-protest-Walker,-Corbett,-and-Rhee-at-DeVos-funded-policy-summit
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pollclaire
Sic Semper Tyrannis
08:13 PM on 06/13/2011
The ongoing theme of Republican governance, Public Money transferred to Private Hands, and don't look too closely at the quality of the product they deliver.

There is no such thing as a strong nation without strong public institutions. Can you think of an exception? I can't. Makes you wonder about their master plan.
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PELAGIUS2
PAC NW by birth Celtic Quaker by the grace of God
04:53 PM on 06/13/2011
When I was in a small town high school in the sixties the most complicated machinery was in the auto shop or the home ec department. Hell, we were still using slide rules in math class. Now we have computer labs, media labs, whatever the heck labs. Which makes me wonder if the actual cost per human being in the schools has risen that much and how much of the increased costs are for all that lovely, constantly needing to be replaced technology. Haven't checked in figures just curious.
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Kymbirleigh
Daughter, Mother, Wife
03:47 PM on 06/14/2011
My mom recently found the paperwork from when I was first entering school.... I know the book prices have drastically risen since I've been in grade school. So I can only imagine overall how much the cost has gone up.
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madisonhack
I prefer not to......
05:36 PM on 06/14/2011
When I was in grade school gasoline was 22 cents a gallon and cigarettes were about the same per pack. Those two things are roughly still equal allowing for taxes on the two. You do the math.
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Jeannette Lacey
06:22 PM on 06/14/2011
I think you may have a point and while it is good to expose the young to new technologies that they will definitely be using once they enter the working world, I often wonder how these technical doo-dads really contribute to bettering education. Because I didn't have them, I feel that maybe computers and other media distract from learning....but then again, I didn't use them in grade school so I don't really know that for sure. What I do know is that most kids today that I know can not read as well as we did, can not converse as coherently as we did and do not seem interested in exploring anything beyond the scope of "computer age" subjects. For example: most college kids I meet today have never read Melville, can not write a good essay, lack the patience to listen to a Beethoven symphony and have many issues surrounding math. But they can score highly on the newest computer game and have dozens of "relationships" with people online whom they have never met.
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framefiller
Left of Attilla the Hun, but still left
04:06 PM on 06/13/2011
How does the voucher system make the public educational system better? The only answer is that it doesn't. The voucher system is only being touted by the Tea Party as a method to strike at teacher unions. It has nothing to do with betterment of the educational system. It is not a stimulus to get more out of the current system of educating children. How can you do more with less? You don't! The No child Left Behind federal program was brought to the forefront of public education by the Bush Administration. The program is a dismal failure because it is not about children learning. What NCLB is about is the testing standards, and how that program can manipulate the school districts into compliance. Teaching for testing standards is abhorred by every good educator in the nation, and that is because it is a system of regurgitation, and not learning. When you couple unworkable federal teaching mandates and a voucher system together, you get a public educational system that will fail. The Tea Party doesn't have an answer for that failure, because their program of voucher's is not aimed at the learning process, but at the economics of compensating teacher's.
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09:16 AM on 06/14/2011
We've been pouring BILLIONS of Fed Gov dollars into public "education reform" for DECADES - long before NCLB came along - all to no avail.

And, the debate about school vouchers began decades ago because public education IS failing - with students literally and economically trapped in a powerful monopolistic system that has little to do with students or the "learning process"
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madisonhack
I prefer not to......
05:38 PM on 06/14/2011
"...that has little to do with students or the "learning process"

Care to back up that claim with something other than your own belief system?