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Debt Limit Deal Gets July 1 Deadline From Negotiators

Debt Limit Deal Deadline

First Posted: 06/15/11 06:32 PM ET Updated: 08/15/11 06:12 AM ET

By Andy Sullivan and Richard Cowan

WASHINGTON - A group of top lawmakers on Wednesday set an ambitious July 1 goal to reach a broad debt-reduction deal, even though Republicans and Democrats are still far apart on taxes and healthcare.

Vice President Joe Biden sat down in the Capitol with six lawmakers trying to agree on how to narrow huge budget deficits and raise the $14.3 trillion debt limit so the United States can avoid defaulting on its financial obligations and keep borrowing money to pay its bills.

The group, which is hoping to break through the growing political partisanship in the run-up to November 2012 elections, talked about proposals that would trigger automatic spending cuts and possibly tax hikes if Congress cannot narrow trillion-dollar budget deficits in the coming years.

"There was broad support for the idea that we put in place a mechanism that ensures deficit reduction," Democratic Representative Chris Van Hollen told reporters after the second straight day of talks. But he said Republicans and Democrats were still at odds over how to implement the mechanism.

Negotiators, who will return on Thursday to review their progress to date, are under increased pressure for a deal.

President Barack Obama and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke warned this week of potentially devastating economic consequences if the debt limit was not raised by an August 2 deadline, when the Treasury Department has warned it will no longer be able to pay all of the country's bills.

Credit rating agencies have warned that the United States' top-notch rating could face a downgrade if Congress does not act soon. Standard & Poor's may get a chance to explain its views in detail to Congress, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan told Reuters.

It is unclear if Ryan will ask S&P officials to appear at a private briefing or a formal hearing.

Republicans have said any increase in the debt limit must include spending cuts equal in size. That would mean cuts of at least $2 trillion to ensure Congress does not have to revisit the politically toxic issue before 2012 elections.

The White House and Republicans have tentatively agreed to save at least $150 billion over the next 10 years by trimming areas such as farm subsidies. Both sides have said they believe they can get more than $1 trillion in savings overall.

Participants said they aim to wrap up talks by July 1, well before the Treasury's August 2 deadline, which would allow time for Obama and House Speaker John Boehner to hammer out a final deal and sell it to rank-and-file lawmakers.

"The final deal will not be in place. It is doable that they could reach enough of an agreement to pass it upstairs," said Ethan Siegal, an analyst with The Washington Exchange, which tracks federal policy for investors.

A majority of 70 economists surveyed in a Reuters poll said it was "highly unlikely" that the United States would go into a technical default, when the government would be unable to meet some financial obligations.

WHAT KIND OF CAP?

The stubborn divide over whether to raise taxes -- which Republican oppose and Democrats favor -- resurfaced as the lawmakers discussed how to implement caps.

The White House and Republicans disagree on the actual mechanisms of the triggers that would go into effect if Congress does not get budget deficits under control.

Republicans want to lower spending from the current level of 25 percent of gross domestic product to below 20 percent. They say automatic spending cuts should be triggered if this level was breached.

Democrats say that would tie the government's hands and would make it unable to respond to emergencies. They say it is better to set overall deficit or debt targets in coming years, and allow for either tax increases or spending cuts to close the gap if these targets aren't reached.

Van Hollen said Democrats wanted to close special interest tax loopholes, get rid of oil subsidies and special tax breaks for things like corporate jets.

Republican leaders have said closing tax breaks should be done in the context of broad tax reform that would lower rates, a task that is beyond the scope of the Biden group.

The Republicans' no-tax-hike stance was muddled on Tuesday when most Senate Republicans voted for a proposal to eliminate tax breaks for ethanol producers for $6 billion in annual savings. The measure failed in a 59-40 vote.

"I think getting rid of unwarranted tax breaks is a good idea," said Lamar Alexander, the No. 3 Senate Republican.

The White House wants to see a short-term payroll tax cut for businesses and the issue was discussed in Tuesday's talks. Leading Republicans have been cool to the idea.

A payroll tax cut would cost roughly $200 billion over 10 years, according to former White House economic adviser Larry Summers. That would complicate the Biden group's task of finding more than a trillion dollars in deficit savings.

(Additional reporting by Deborah Charles; Editing by Ross Colvin and David Lawder)


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and another thing . . .
11:05 PM on 06/15/2011
It really IS amazing, to see right-wing Republicans threatening to hold up this measure, for crass political reasons only but seemingly oblivious to the obvious damage it'll do to the U.S. First of all, even the threat of the U.S. defaulting on it's loans is enough to depress the investment in the U.S. But Republicans sent all the jobs to China, bankrupted the Treasury with unwinnable wars and spending at supersonic rates to put the Country on the verge of bankruptcy, and then lower taxes so the richest of the rich pay fewer taxes! Sounds like Greece!
China owns the U.S. with the amount of U.S. debt it's carrying. You threaten non-payment of tthose loans, maybe they'll just foreclose on the Great Democracy, and that'll be that. At the rate the right-wing Republicans bankrupted the Nation, maybe the Commies can run your shop better. How do you like Bush/Cheney now? Quite the legacy they left you eh? It's surprising that Obama still wanted the top job with the Mess he inherited. Right-Wingers = Big Spenders. Beware. And pay up.
11:31 PM on 06/15/2011
The GOP control their constituents with fear and hatred. Let's crap on the lower class and middle class while giving corporations what they want. The GOP would rather give money to corporations than help out the downtrodden. The GOP complains about fraud in Medicare/Medicaid but continue to pay the corporations. We have given the corps what they want yet they still don't hire.
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and another thing . . .
11:37 PM on 06/15/2011
Executive "Bonuses" are back ON though eh. Lots of cash for that . . . . . NOT what the U.S. was meant to be I suspect.
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firstad
08:55 PM on 06/15/2011
Both political parties are trying to serve themselves instead of the country. Trillion dollar tax cuts will do nothing to get the middle class back to work, pay the money due on our borrowing, or prime the jobs pump. Saying you can't touch the Pentagon's budget and Medicare costs or raise taxes on the top 1% is political balderdash that keeps the economy stuck in the neutral place it is. The Debt ceiling is the smoke alarm for our economy, and it has started beeping in the halls of Congress.
ropadopa
Exposing the failed conservative experiment
08:29 PM on 06/15/2011
Considering what have occurred with the economy under Republican stewardship of the economy starting with 1981 through 1993 and 2000 through to 2008 and again in 2010 when they were returned as the majority in the House, in a perfect world, their comments on anything economic would have been redirected to the Entertainment or Comedy Sections.
07:49 PM on 06/15/2011
WOW, Biden looks like he's really awake?
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atx888
micro-bio empty bcuz my brain need the space
09:36 PM on 06/15/2011
He'll sneeze and go back to sleep.
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kaine23
07:35 PM on 06/15/2011
GOP better enjoy being in power cause it wont last past November.
07:48 PM on 06/15/2011
What happens in November?
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Veganie
Live food, live bodies
07:53 PM on 06/15/2011
Bad news for GOP!
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atx888
micro-bio empty bcuz my brain need the space
09:38 PM on 06/15/2011
Thanksgiving.
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Parkite
Still haven't found what I'm looking for
08:32 PM on 06/15/2011
You mean Nov. 2012? Right?
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liberalis
07:32 PM on 06/15/2011
There is plenty of room for tax increasing the top tier.
After all, in 1945 it was 94%
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halfpricefaustian
Voted for Obama. Waiting for Godot.
07:28 PM on 06/15/2011
Say what? Republicans are cool to extending the payroll tax cut to businesses because it will increase the deficit? What is this born-again nonsense? How DARE they admit that cutting taxes does not increase revenue? Off with their heads!
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bnshwarmr
07:26 PM on 06/15/2011
for gods sake, end the tax breaks for the very rich, once and for all. show some spine for once.

the dems have been waiting to see some intestnal fortitude. If not now we can rightly assume

never. and you obama, can kiss your job goodbye
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james denton
07:22 PM on 06/15/2011
The Dems and the Repubs are both failing the American people
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bnshwarmr
07:21 PM on 06/15/2011
listen up reid and biden, the dem base will not settle for less than 50/50 revenue/ spending cuts

i hope you read this
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
07:21 PM on 06/15/2011
Giving employers a payroll tax break is a terrible idea.

More money in consumers pockets NOT into corporate deep freezes.
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atx888
micro-bio empty bcuz my brain need the space
09:33 PM on 06/15/2011
You want Robin Obama Hood to rob the rich and give it to the poor. Right?
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bnshwarmr
07:16 PM on 06/15/2011
the first thing im looking for is added revenue. im looking for 50/50 split like Reid appealed for

at the beginning. there is no reason why not. these dems better not WIMP out. as far as im

concerned, this is it for my loyalty to Obama. Period enough with him and his mr nice guy
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jacqmac
07:11 PM on 06/15/2011
Helllloooooo! The fix was in the day that the House voted against raising the ceiling. Nearly every Republican that voted against it was ON THE PHONE to their pals on WALL STREET telling them that they will NEVER allow default. However, this probably caused enough nervousness and sweaty keyboards, that the current slide in the market can probably be partially traced back to that day. And the Dems have done the same thing. You really believe that the US needs to be responsible for crashing the economies of at least 8 sovereign nations, including itself? Don't be absurd. I truly believe that this game of brinksmanship will com out favorably for the DEMS--not those other guys.
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carbec
Fondness for books has addled her brain
07:39 PM on 06/15/2011
I hope you are correct. Allowing the middle class and working people to take the hit instead of billionaires and corporations is not acceptable to Progressives. If Dems let me down on this, I will not be working for Obama or any other Dem.
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Garyatty10
Attorney.CPA- Debunking GOP Myths
07:05 PM on 06/15/2011
Obama and the Dems have the upper hand and should force the GOP to increase revenues, cut military and preserve medicare and be prepared to call the GOP's bluff. If the GOP does not raise the debt limit Wall Street will kick the GOP out.
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bnshwarmr
07:19 PM on 06/15/2011
if the dems dont raise the revenues, im done. Obama ,i hope, has learned that you cant

be mr nice guy with people that want to be a one term president!!
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carbec
Fondness for books has addled her brain
07:41 PM on 06/15/2011
Regressives know their corporate and billionaire masters will not allow them to fail to raise the debt ceiling. Surely Dems know that and have sense enough to use it to their advantage.

Get tough, Dems. The American people have your back!
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07:03 PM on 06/15/2011
What a nice picture!