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After Controversy, Baptists Affirm Belief In 'Eternal' Hell

Baptists Hell

First Posted: 06/16/2011 6:12 am Updated: 08/15/2011 6:12 am

By Adelle M. Banks
c. 2011 Religion News Service

(RNS) Southern Baptists on Wednesday (June 14) called hell an "eternal, conscious punishment" for those who do not accept Jesus, rebutting a controversial book from Michigan pastor Rob Bell that questions traditional views of hell.

Citing Bell's book "Love Wins," the resolution urges Southern Baptists "to proclaim faithfully the depth and gravity of sin against a holy God, the reality of hell, and the salvation of sinners by God's grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone, to the glory of God alone."

Several leaders during the Baptists' two-day meeting in Phoenix coupled warnings about hell with pleas for evangelism -- especially in areas where there are no churches or missionaries.

"Is hell real? Is hell forever? Did God really say sinners would perish in eternal torment forever and ever?" asked pastor and author David Platt of Birmingham, Ala. "Oh, readers of Rob Bell and others like him, listen very carefully be very cautious, when anyone says, 'Did God really say this?"'

Bell's book, released in March, criticizes the "misguided" view that "select Christians" will live forever in heaven while the rest of humanity will suffer eternal torment in a punishing hell.

Earlier this year, the Southern Baptist-affiliated Lifeway Christian Stores quietly removed warning labels from certain books -- including Bell's -- that "could be considered inconsistent with historical evangelical theology."

"At the center of the Christian tradition since the first church has been the insistence that ... hell is not forever, and love, in the end, wins," Bell wrote in "Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Has Ever Lived."

Southern Baptist Convention President Bryant Wright prayed that Southern Baptists would take to heart the statement they passed on hell.

"Father, because the reality of hell is so real, the permanent separation from you is so real, and our hours here on this earth are so limited, we pray that you will give us a fresh sense of conviction of preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ," he prayed right after the resolution was adopted.

On Tuesday, Baptists elected a black pastor from New Orleans as first vice president, the highest office in the denomination ever held by a black man. Pastor Fred Luter of New Orleans is already being talked about as a prime candidate for SBC president next year.

"It's a great feeling," Luter said in an interview Wednesday, comparing his election to the accolades he received when he was tapped as the first African-American to give the convention sermon in 2001.

The mostly white denomination, which traces its roots to Civil War-era defense of slavery, voted Tuesday on specific measures to increase the ethnic diversity of its top leadership -- which Luter cited as a genuine shift.

"I think the change is that the denomination is purposely at the point where we know we have to open up the doors for more ethnics to be involved in leadership roles in the convention," he said.

As for a possible presidency, Luter said he's not campaigning.

"I do hear the people talking," he said. "They talk to me about it. But I've been telling them, 'Let's just take this one day at a time, one year at a time.' ... I'm praying about it and just praying that God will just lead us."

In other business, Baptists passed resolutions that:

-- Decried public "speech or activities" that bring "shame upon the name of Christ and his gospel," citing individuals and groups that have protested funerals, burned Qurans and prayed for the deaths of public officials.

-- Criticized any governmental "coercive measure," including restrictive zoning laws, that aim to limit religious speech or worship; Baptists also affirmed the liberty to "convert to another religion or to no religion."

-- Urged President Obama to force the Justice Department to "follow through on its constitutional responsibility" to defend the Defense of Marriage Act from legal challenges, and commended the House of Representatives for assuming responsibility of defending the 1996 law that defines marriage as between one man and one woman.

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By Adelle M. Banks c. 2011 Religion News Service (RNS) Southern Baptists on Wednesday (June 14) called hell an "eternal, conscious punishment" for those who do not accept Jesus, rebutting a contro...
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ocenbrz
Atheist by choice.
01:41 AM on 06/29/2011
Hell is only real in their imaginations. It is whatever you want it to be. But one thing that it isn't, is real. Doesn't exist. No one has gone to Hell in a near death experience and lived to write about it. No,"hell below us" folks. You are just going to have use more realistic means to convince your kin that they shouldn't hurt people, unless you get paid a lot of money to do so, because it is bad, otherwise.

Of course scaring young children with stories about Hell, the Devil, Demons, Possession, that is only for their own good. Hum...some of us call that child abuse. Considering how many serial killers believe that they have "voices in their head" telling them to do bad things, I wonder just how very useful lying to our children really was? Many of us have a lot to ask our children to forgive us for. Especially those of us who tried to push religion onto them when they were too young to understand what it was all about or make rational choices.
10:09 PM on 06/23/2011
If you believe that God sends people to hell then you have been deceived by Satan's self-deception that he is God. The fact is that Satan rules all Christians by their belief in hell. Where's the mercy? What does it mean to God that Jesus said “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do"? How could anyone believe that Jesus Christ would send anyone to hell for any reason whatsoever much less for simply being too much in darkness to believe in Him? That's what's being said when the Baptists say that hell is real. They are saying that they know the mind of Jesus of Nazareth and that Jesus would condemn select individuals to eternal conscious torment. Does anyone that really believes in the merciful Jesus WHO DIED FOR EVERYONE'S SINS WHETHER OR NOT THEY ASK FOR FORGIVENESS OR NOT would not forgive anyone and everyone through all time and space? Anyone that has an argument with that statement is ruled by satanic feelings of hate.
The hatefulness of "righteous" Christians towards all "unbelievers" is purely Satanic - there is nothing Godly in condemnation of others. Did not Jesus say "he who is without sin cast the first stone"? Is not saying that unbelievers will be cast into hell the casting of a stone? Who then in all of the Baptist convention IS WITHOUT SIN? .
02:09 PM on 06/21/2011
Also this: http://www.nderf.org/NDE%20Rhetoric.htm
04:15 PM on 06/22/2011
and this: http://www­.near-deat­h.com/evid­ence.html
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taoistpunk
because the monks wouldn't have me..
03:33 PM on 06/20/2011
A thoughtful, conspicuous and heartfelt, reaffirmation in the immorality of their belief-system.

Or, as Monty Python would put it:

"Oh Lord, oooh you are so big. So absolutely huge. Gosh, we’re all really impressed down here I can tell you. Forgive us, O Lord, for this dreadful toadying and barefaced flattery. But you are so strong and, well, just so super. Fantastic. Amen."
02:57 PM on 06/20/2011
People who believe in stuff are dum
11:29 AM on 06/20/2011
"to proclaim faithfully the depth and gravity of sin against a holy God, the reality of hell, and the salvation of sinners by God's grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone, to the glory of God alone."

These people. Where do they get off? Such blatant discrimination against, um, I don't know how many billion people who don't "believe" in Christ. Not that I personally mind too much. It's as empty a threat as one can get really, if you don't subscribe to all this nonsense.
08:52 AM on 06/20/2011
And i proclaim here that any monkey (okay ape) that doesnt believe in the nonsense i believe will be condemned to a special place my nonsense mention.

It makes perfect sense!
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Kiri the Unicorn
astronut
05:50 PM on 06/19/2011
Gee, the more I think about it, the more it seems like an ineptly-run con.
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BurtonDesque
Fear a Blank Planet
08:16 PM on 06/19/2011
No, its one of the best run cons in history.
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Kiri the Unicorn
astronut
08:50 PM on 06/19/2011
I try to understand WHY people believe in religion, but it still floors me that so many buy into such a literal interpretation of scripture.
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05:08 PM on 06/19/2011
ah eternal hell--a vision of life in the usa under fundamentalist theocratic rule.
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Nutcase
From Nashville, Tennistan.
04:20 PM on 06/19/2011
I hope it isn't eternal but hell certainly does exist. It's having to live here in the Bible Belt amidst the 'true believers.'
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celeritas
diligentia vis celeritas
02:28 PM on 06/19/2011
Where your heart is, there is your treasure also. You believe in what you value. Believe in the illusion of sin and you will put value on hell and proclaim it real, for that is your one and true god.
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Mag7
Smarter than the Average Dog
11:35 AM on 06/19/2011
when evangelicals learn to recycle I'll believe they believe in God.
09:19 AM on 06/19/2011
Not only are they keeping 'their' God in a box.....It is a hateful mean box.

"Their' God is mean.
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05:04 PM on 06/19/2011
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sure sue, the word used is Lamb Beast
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LafAtChristianFairyTales
Capitalism's End-Game: Stripped planet and no jobs
01:22 AM on 06/19/2011
The notion that an all-powerful god would create a universe and a planet filled with life for the sole purpose that one of the species would worship him in just the right way to fulfill some vain need to be flattered. This is sheer goofiness. If this god wanted to be worshipped so badly he could have easily created animals that worship him.

Now lets apply the same critical thinking to the notion of early rulers of Middle Eastern clans of nomadic sheepherders. These rulers were faced with the daunting task of maintaining order and cooperation among their uneducated followers. They had to accomplish this without a fully-developed police or judicial system. How did they do it? By using shamans and preachers to frighten their followers into civil behavior - warning them of dire eternal consequences if they didn't obey the rules and treat each other nicely. Scaring their followers into sexual fidelity reduces the needs for judicial family court. And of course using religion to inspire soldiers to fight and die for their chosen god, and thus plundering resources from neighboring clans, greatly increasing the wealth of the ruling class. Is this a more likely scenario than a narcissistic god in need of hero worship from his own creations? You bet it is!
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celeritas
diligentia vis celeritas
02:34 PM on 06/19/2011
HERETIC!

I love heretics...:)
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05:12 PM on 06/19/2011
nicely put. but i wonder how many believers can read the comment and actually think about it?

there is obviously is also something more tho to the political aspects of "true god" religions--a deep psychological need.
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DAE
01:19 AM on 06/19/2011
I am absolutely convinced that there is a hell and millions upon millions are condemned through no fault of their own to live in it. Unfortunately its right here on Earth.
03:08 PM on 06/20/2011
Yeah there is no joy in life and people never smile or feel love
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DAE
04:07 PM on 06/20/2011
Yup, its all peaches and cream. Nobody is starving, abandoned, raped, mutilated, blown to smithereens, or tortured anywhere in the world. No matter how you try to escape reality the world is not and never has been a pleasant place for millions of people. If you can't figure out the underlying irony of my comment you're unfortunately no differant than many of the commentators at this site.
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ocenbrz
Atheist by choice.
02:03 AM on 06/29/2011
What we are debating though here is whether there is a Hell located elsewhere in the Universe. Now, I was taught it was below us but science has proven that millions or billions of people are not suffering from burning damnation at the Earth's core. Could be an excuse for "Global Warming", (sheesh, expected the religious buy that one up with little argument), but whatever... Misery, deceit, yeah, plenty of that going on. Sure there are good times for some people, some more than others. Best not to lose all of your compassion for the other people sharing this ball of mud and water with us. But a religious hell? Only when you are stuck being lied to by a preacher. Other than that, doesn't exist.