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Carl Levin: Obama Needs To Withdraw At Least 15,000 Troops From Afghanistan


First Posted: 06/21/11 03:14 PM ET Updated: 08/21/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) has put forward a baseline number of troops that the president must announce he will pull out of Afghanistan, saying that anything less would break Obama's promise of a "significant" drawdown.

"In my judgment, a minimum of 15,000 reduction in troops would be needed for this to be a significant reduction, and since the president has committed himself a few months ago to a significant reduction, I think that's what will happen," Levin told reporters on Capitol Hill on Tuesday.

When asked how he came up with that number, Levin replied, "It's based on what would it take to let the Afghans know the significance of the importance of shifting the responsibility -- the principal responsibility to them for the security of their own country."

President Obama is set to address the nation at 8 p.m. ET on Wednesday. But initial reports indicate the president may not meet Levin's baseline.

A senior defense official told the Associated Press that President Obama is likely to announce the withdrawal of approximately 10,000 troops this year, "with one brigade of about 5,000 forces leaving this summer and a second brigade of similar size coming home by the end of the year."

The Los Angeles Times had a similar report, noting that withdrawing 10,000 troops this year is more ambitious than what Gen. David Petraeus and other Pentagon officials had advocated.

In a statement to The Huffington Post on Tuesday, a spokeswoman for Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) put down a similar baseline but indicated the Oregon senator would like to see it even higher.

"While various senators' opinions may differ, Senator Merkley would not consider an initial reduction below 15-25,000 troops to be sizable," the spokeswoman said. "However, even more important is that ongoing withdrawals must be sustained with an end point of complete withdrawal of regular combat troops. It cannot be a situation where we remove some troops now without a plan to ensure that the rest of the regular combat troops come home as quickly as logistics and safety allow."

Merkley, along with Sens. Tom Udall (D-N.M.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah), recently circulated a letter calling on Obama to put forward a "significant and sizable" reduction in troops in Afghanistan. The letter attracted a total of 27 co-signers.

There are currently about 100,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan; 30,000 of them went in as part of the "surge" Obama announced in December 2009.

But even the reduction of 15,000 that Levin is proposing may not be enough to stave off a revolt from lawmakers.

Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D-Tex.), who is a member of both the House Armed Services and Intelligence Committees told The Huffington Post recently that anything below a 20,000 troops drawdown will probably elicit a "hue and a cry" from Congress.

Rep. John Garamendi (D-Calif.), who recently returned from a trip to Afghanistan, introduced an amendment to the defense bill last month calling for the United States to reduce troop levels to 25,000 by the end of 2012 and to 10,000 by the end of 2013.

On Tuesday, at a joint press conference with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said growing war fatigue and public opposition to U.S. involvement factored significantly into the president's decision on the drawdown. Gates said the conditions on the ground could not be the only factor in the decision.

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WASHINGTON -- Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) has put forward a baseline number of troops that the president must announce he will pull out of Afghanistan, saying that an...
WASHINGTON -- Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) has put forward a baseline number of troops that the president must announce he will pull out of Afghanistan, saying that an...
 
 
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ewldest
I don't care "whose" war it is - end it now
01:24 PM on 06/22/2011
Stop playing politics with other peoples' lives.
All troops home now, and spend the money to rebuild our own nation, let the Afghanistanis take care of themselves..
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maxwelldog
even if i don't go anywhere, I'll still be late.
10:35 AM on 06/22/2011
15000 by the first week of July is good.
Followed by 15000 more the second week.
And, don't forget 25000 on the third week as well as 25000 on the fourth week.
The BIG surprise will be the remaining troops ALL leave, as well as most of the equipment by the end of the month.
A truly magnificent performance.
AND what he promised.

All the while the world watches one of the fastest, greatest get-aways ever, the remaining troops in Iraq need to be returned, also.

Let's be hopping to it, Leon.
Chop chop!
We want our troops HOME for Labor Day!
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Dunkleberger Karl
Historian,Humanitarian,Hedonist.
12:54 AM on 06/22/2011
25,000 in 90 days! another 25,000 by christmas!
06:48 PM on 06/21/2011
Carl Levin came up with the 15,000 withdrawal figure so the sheeple will not rant too much when Obama sends home 10,000 to 15,000 troops. People with numbers like Levin's are priming the majority so they won't be too terribly disappointed when the number falls well below our expectations. And don't forget that Obama has the Sec. of State advising him what SHE would do,(which is a very low troop withdrawl). Why,why, why can't The Pres. get some backbone?
09:23 PM on 06/21/2011
The President has plenty of backbone. He stands up for the military industrial complex every chance he gets.
06:35 PM on 06/21/2011
How would you like to be a service member and read what this Ben Franklin wanna be is suggesting. The closest he has been to combat was when he was a dorm monitor at swathmore college.
06:25 PM on 06/21/2011
There goes his election if the bring back isn't at least 15,000, or all.
All would insure his presidency - but dragging it out seems like
a concession to the Republicans and maybe he is in the
wrong party?
09:27 PM on 06/21/2011
Wrong party? He's been a republican ever since gaining entrance to our White House.
01:32 PM on 06/24/2011
Don't think so. The Dems have not been behind him since he took
office. Everyone stands behind Boehner, but where are the supporters
for Obama from his own party. It sucks.
He's up against a tide of doo doo and two dividers.
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RusStyles
05:33 PM on 06/21/2011
I'd love to know how people are determining what the best course of action is...People are are over the place. The senator says 15K. Another congressman said bring home between 25-30K...Some posters say 50K, 60K...Others say bring them all home--now! Where are people getting the intel? How do they know all of the geo-political ramifications of a quick, massive withdrawal? It's good to have a opinion on the number of troops to withdraw, it would be even better offer an analysis backed up by facts
whochi
This space for rent.
08:43 AM on 06/22/2011
As Keith O might say, "What planet have you been living on the last two years?"
Absolutely no case has been made by any military advisor, President or member of Congress, why we are still in Afghanistan after all these years. We cleaned out Al Quaeda years ago. We should simply leave and tell Karzai that we will back you with some money etc., but if they come back under his watch, he will be the first person we take out.
Obama's illegal war being waged on Libya should tell anyone that he is the most clueless commander in chief we have had in the last century. Clearly he does not believe that our military should be used only to defend our national interests. Continuing (much less escalating) the war in Afghanistan and attacking Libya do not meet that criteria.
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RusStyles
09:26 AM on 06/22/2011
KO is a TV host, not a military strategist...I'm no expert either, which is why I ask questions...clearly NOT everyone agrees on the pullout strategy...People with more knowledge about the history and the complex geo-political considerations such as Dr Zbigniew Brzezinski offers a much deeper analysis than your simplistic claim that Obama is a "clueless commander". I'll take Dr B's assessment over yours or KO's...And the intelligence gap between you and Obama makes your clueless claim laughable.
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
05:08 PM on 06/21/2011
Heard around the web:

If you promise your lady a pullout, but at the appointed time withdraw by only a third, she will not consider that you have kept your promise. Nor will she be open to a discussion of the semantics. If Obama tried this chit in Sweden he'd be charged with a crime. But since it's Afghanistan the victim will probably get blamed.  
04:56 PM on 06/21/2011
Carl Levin just wanted to be the first to throw a rock at the Democratic President; Democrats do that, you know?
06:31 PM on 06/21/2011
It's what democracy is all about.
Different people - different viewpoints and making
that okay - but if the majority of people want to
end this war in Afghanistan, the President
should listen to them. He was elected to
serve the people in this country and it
might bring the unemployed figures up
but these men can not only help the
recoveries in Joplon, Alabama and
New Orleans, Missouri, they can
do a better job at the borders by
restoring order and processing.
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A Dub
Conservative government is an organized hypocrisy
04:40 PM on 06/21/2011
10,000 - 15,000 troop is a disgrace how about starting with 50,000 - 60,000
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
04:40 PM on 06/21/2011
By the way, the troop totals do NOT include the privately contracted troops we have in Afghanistan.  

Their numbers are estimated to equal or in excess of the total number of troops deployed in Afghanistan.
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cassie reinara
04:33 PM on 06/21/2011
Are you kidding, 15K is a joke and meaningless! OBL is dead. There's maybe how many AQ in Afghanistan? Two? and you're now negotiating peace with the Taliban? Does American foreign policy have to always be so screwed up? Oh, we need to feed the MIC and continue this senseless conflict. Sorry, but as you politicians are now claiming we have no money, so we can gut SS and Medicare, but God forbid we touch defense contractor welfare!
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
04:32 PM on 06/21/2011
Just this month 27 American troops have died in Afghanistan.
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Jesse Taylor
Personal website is --> jrt4.net
04:36 PM on 06/21/2011
As Madeline Albright would say "We think the price was worth it".
06:36 PM on 06/21/2011
No death is worth it, and what really pisses me
off is the value of lives both the Senate and Congress
put on people?
Who are they to determine who should die and
who should live when they don't even respect
their own people's rights.
They don't even serve the people anymore.
They fight for their agendas and that's it.
Another thing is they should take the
polls and eat them because I don't know
a single personwho ever was asked
what they thought about anything so
that's also media hype.
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sophie M
ANTI WAR./animal rescue
04:39 PM on 06/21/2011
38 NATO soldiers . RIP . i am so sorry.
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ABACADABRA RABBIT
VOTE GREEN PARTY 2012
04:31 PM on 06/21/2011
Are we more stupid than the Soviets?

Somebody is.
06:40 PM on 06/21/2011
No -we're just manipulated by better media
coverage and smarter jackels.
It's like the ads that show you frozen foods
which look so good, you crave that, and
when you open the box its this small
tray with few spoonfuls of food and
it tastes blah, but you eat it anyway.
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04:29 PM on 06/21/2011
Based on comments I see on this forum I think Mitt Romney will be our next president.
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Jesse Taylor
Personal website is --> jrt4.net
04:37 PM on 06/21/2011
Do you mean comments that aren't blindly accepting the legitimacy of Dear Leader's Middle Eastern killing spree?
06:46 PM on 06/21/2011
Not really.
We really need smart guys as leaders today.
Mitt Romney is not smart enough to handle the problems of 500
million people.
No more personality or white haired toga wearing dudes either.
Obama is smart which is why people elected him but
he needs better lawyers on his cabinet than the
Corporation's have, and his advisors stink. It may
be, he listens to his wife too much,but there is
a definite problem in there because he sure
supported change and moving into the future.
Something happened?
Does anyone know because it's obvious he's
different??
I love the guy but I don't know him anymore.