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Doll-Hoarding Grandmother Forced To Face Facts

First Posted: 06/23/11 10:31 AM ET Updated: 11/15/11 05:59 AM ET

By day, she's a certified nursing assistant in Griffin, Georgia, but by night, Phyllis, a grandmother in her 60s, has a shocking secret: She's addicted to doll collecting.

She has more than 50,000 of them, according to the A&E series, "Hoarders," which featured Phyllis on the season premiere episode that aired on June 20.

Her explanation for keeping the dolls -- which are in varying degrees of decay and shabbiness -- is simple.

"When I see their sweet little faces, it makes me happy," she said. "I don't collect them because they're valuable. I just like their company."

Yet according to her son Ed, the reason behind her crazed collecting is more complex. She began hoarding about 13 years ago, after her mom died.

Phyllis was the only family member not invited to the funeral and, as a result, she reverted to a childlike state and began collecting dolls.

Part of the problem is that she and her son are running out of space because of the dolls, the weight of which is comprising the structural integrity of their house.

The other problem, of course, is that Phyllis doesn't see a problem with her "little hobby" at all.

"These dolls are like a giant tidal wave, she can't manage, control or deal with," Ed said, fearing that Adult Protective Services will come in in if his mom doesn't clean up her act -- literally.

That could be difficult.

Recognizing the problem is the first step, and Phyllis seems reluctant to do that.

"I think I see a Cabbage Patch doll. I love Cabbage Patch dolls," she said after all her dolls were put in a huge pile in front of her house.

Hoarding expert Mark Pfeffer, who was brought in to help Phyllis stop ignoring the hoarding issue, says her behavior is simply an expression of underlying turmoil.

"Like the bags of dolls she's stored away in the shed, Phyllis has stored away her emotions," he said. "Even her nervous laughter was not laughter. It was anxiety and fear."

Gregory Chasson, another hoarding expert who is an assistant professor of psychology at Towson University, says Phyllis' attachment to her dolls is typical.

"Individuals with hoarding often develop attachments to objects similar to how you might attach to another individual," Chasson told AOL Weird News. "This might provide some clues about some of the biological and psychological mechanisms that explain hoarding, but the science is just not there yet."

Although medication is helpful for other psychological problems, Chasson says research is still needed to determine a proper treatment for hoarding.

"There's no evidence that compulsive hoarding is benefited by psychiatric medication," he said. "Cognitive-behavioral therapy modified for compulsive hoarding is a psychological treatment approach with tremendous promise and growing empirical support. However, it's not very accessible, because it's time and resource-intensive, often requiring many hours of in-home treatment by trained therapists."

Because this form of therapy is very expensive, and often not covered by health insurance, Chasson says efforts are underway to make the treatment more accessible. Non-professionals will be trained to deliver key parts of cognitive behavioral therapy for compulsive hoarding in the patient's home, which would offset the high costs by as much as 80 percent.

Although cases like Phyllis are on the extreme side of the spectrum, Chasson says compulsive hoarding, which is related to obsessive-compulsive disorder, affects approximately 1 in 25 people.

"But this may be an underestimate since hoarding occurs in varying degrees in the general population. Some people experience minor or no hoarding tendencies, while others experience extreme versions," he said. "Television shows depict the very extreme cases because the mountainous clutter and unusual interests in objects, like dolls, makes for enticing TV programming. Not all individuals with hoarding are as severe as the cases shown on television shows."

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By day, she's a certified nursing assistant in Griffin, Georgia, but by night, Phyllis, a grandmother in her 60s, has a shocking secret: She's addicted to doll collecting. She has more than 50,000 ...
By day, she's a certified nursing assistant in Griffin, Georgia, but by night, Phyllis, a grandmother in her 60s, has a shocking secret: She's addicted to doll collecting. She has more than 50,000 ...
 
 
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douttfire
Up With This, I Will Not Put!
03:37 PM on 06/26/2011
Maybe they could help Grandma find a positive outlet for her doll collecting. Maybe she could collect them to be given to needy children. She could collect the really nice ones and help give them new homes. I was kind of sad watching the video. The son's reaction made me sad..that Mom's "hobby" is kind of weird. She looks like a sweet lady who needs company and compassion. At least she's not collecting cats or dogs. Dolls don't pee and poop and make your house foul. They're clutter. Her doll fetish looks like it's low-budget, Good Will type stuff. Now if she was hitting the plasma center so she could get money to buy Bradford Exchange dolls, then I say call in a psychiatrist.
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Susan Marlowe CPA
I simply take part in activities that I believe in
12:16 PM on 07/22/2011
I agree. If possible, it would be great if this woman could find a way to give her dolls to people in need. I wish her well but it sounds as if the therapy she needs is out of her financial reach. A pity.
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douttfire
Up With This, I Will Not Put!
03:19 PM on 06/25/2011
One day this woman will be dead, then her son will wish his Mom was around, old dolls and all. We as a society have allowed others to deem what is "normal" that when someone does not fit the mold, we call them eccentric, odd, obsessive-compulsive and we want to medicate them and brainwash them and take away their individuality. Collect dolls or thimbles or match books or Hot Wheels cars. If accumulating tchotchkes is your thing, do it and enjoy it. There's so much you HAVE to do that's not enjoyable that if this little bit of pleasure helps you cope...so be it. She could be gambling or drinking or running amok in her underwear barking and chasing cars.
05:58 PM on 06/25/2011
Her "collection" is threatening to destroy her house structurally. Her son is recognizing that to dolls are a way to not grieve over the death of her mother. If you love a relative, you sometimes need to reach out and help them solve a problem, even if they think they're fine.
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douttfire
Up With This, I Will Not Put!
03:29 PM on 06/26/2011
You're right. I guess if it gets so bad that the house is in jeopardy of caving in, then the person needs serious intervention and help. I have an eccentric aunt who is somewhat of a hoarder. She's not stockpiling bags of trash (thank God) but she loves Home Shopping Channel. I would feel bad if I saw her featured on a TV show. That's where I'm coming from. It seems like no one's life is valuable, except as entertainment for others. In private, yes, help any way you can. But putting them on TV, I wouldn't do it.
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ljconner
What ate your homework ?
10:02 AM on 06/24/2011
Why is this even news....this is a useless waste of space.....besides the lady can collect dolls if she wants to....seems this is her business.....she probably has a bizarre family who needs to be on the front page in front of the world. Leave her alone.
09:50 AM on 06/24/2011
There is something else wrong with her. " She began hoarding about 13 years ago, after her mom died. Phyllis was the only family member not invited to the funeral." Why? There was a problem before her mother died or she would not have been excluded.
While talking about the funeral, who can tell you that you can't attend your mothers funeral unless you are in jail? Since when do you need an invite to go to your mother’s funeral? Both of my parents are gone and I didn't invite my siblings or be invited by them. I just went.
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douttfire
Up With This, I Will Not Put!
03:12 PM on 06/25/2011
That seemed odd to me, too. "Not invited to the funeral" Hmmm. I was invited to a wedding, but never got an invite to a funeral. maybe because people don't plan to die. People are strange.
10:32 AM on 06/28/2011
Yes, but did you tell your siblings when the funeral was? What time? Where the parent would be buried? If you don't know when those things are, you can't attend -hence, not invited.
09:32 AM on 06/24/2011
Personally I think if she has a mental condition, I don't think she should be a CNA.
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08:34 AM on 06/24/2011
"She began after her mother died". She suffers from losing her mother she obviously loved very much. Is this abnormal? Abnormal is the people who cannot wait for their parents to die so they can have their money or their house.
05:56 PM on 06/25/2011
Its only abnormal if she hasn't moved on at all in 13 years. Which appears to be true. Parents dies and its okay to grieve, but if you are just as emotionally crippled as you were on day one on year 13 something is amiss.
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09:26 PM on 06/25/2011
One can never have too much feelings, and can never be too sensitive. Are we going to set a time limit to grieve? We live in a society which is unforgiving, judging, and very selfish. Values are in the wrong place. This person found a refuge in loving her dolls, she has given up on people. She was a nurse has has seen so much pain over the years. She needs to give the enormous amount of love she has to something. This is a beautiful person.
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douttfire
Up With This, I Will Not Put!
03:39 PM on 06/26/2011
Thanks. Beautifully said. Your post just made me cry.
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Ayesha Khan
06:52 AM on 06/24/2011
How Possibly Phyllis see Problems with her Behavior?--- Was there any one to see the problems that she went through--- She is a Typical case of Psychological Hit. Her Treatment is easy but not by Medication -- all she needs is proper counselling--- The researches and scientists will make the matter worse... Only by looking at her attitude and her past is sufficient to understand that she is a case of Trauma--- Humans can behave in extreme abnormal cases that is a result of some Trauma at any stage of their Life--- She can improve with Counselling No Medication is Required-------
06:43 AM on 06/24/2011
Why is this anyone's business--including the son's?

The only difference I can see between this woman's doll hobby and someone like Martha Pullen, who flies all over the world collecting heirloom dresses from antique shops, is that Martha Pullen runs an heirloom sewing business and is married to a retired dentist who is a millionaire, while this woman is single and has a lot less money to spend.

But no one faults someone like Martha Pullen from "hoarding." Or run articles with her children crying foul about it.
05:54 PM on 06/25/2011
Because Pullen does not collect to the point where the structural integrity of her house is threatened and where she has so many dresses that she cannot keep them in decent condition and begin to decay. There is a HUGE difference between collecting for pleasure and hoarding to fill a hole in one's life.
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thesilentcrow
Humanity is overrated
02:01 AM on 06/24/2011
i watched this episode, i find it sad that huffpost/aol is reiterating the TV show and considering it an act of "reporting". all that was done that's original here is the adding of a small bit of info from a psychology professor.

anywhoo...it's really not that creepy if you think about it. humans love possessions and some become abnormally emotionally attached to certain things for a variety of psychological reasons. her's was dolls (and i thought it was the other lady in that same episode that was keeping her urine in bottles and cups, not this one) because she found comfort in them and comfort in acquiring them. she spent years being put down by other people which eventually built up and she broke. a lot of senior citizens collect things they don't need sometimes to excess. many times it's from years of stress, loneliness, or dementia. i'd hardly call hoarding "weird".
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Mizuki
Denim!
12:14 AM on 06/24/2011
........I have to say this freaked me out. Seriously. I've seen what others have hoarded in the past....but this....needs serious help.
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douttfire
Up With This, I Will Not Put!
03:21 PM on 06/25/2011
Porcelain dolls freak me out, but, hey to each his own.
11:37 PM on 06/23/2011
David Moye needs to get his facts straight. Janet had the bottles of urine and diapers around her house in Michigan NOT the doll lady. In fact his whole paragraph is wrong "Turns out, when Phyllis started collecting dolls, she began ignoring things like paying the heating and water bill and even personal hygiene. Her house is filled with plastic cups containing her urine." The show said her heater had stopped working two months ago but clearly there was electricity in the home.
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dil123
I'm a blah woman that votes. Be scared. GOP!
06:26 PM on 06/23/2011
How bad does it have to get before a collection becomes hoarding? In our attic we have 150 beanie babies, 47 pageant crowns, 80 trophies, and about 15 Christmas barbie dolls. Are we hoarders because we have all this stuff? All these things have good memories behind them and they are put away because we no longer have room in the regular house for all of them, but except for the trophies, which we have been trying to get rid of (we can't find any takers), I don't think it's overboard. BTW, we sent all the adult sized dresses, about 20 in all to The Cinderella Project.
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Susan Osterhout Troiano
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11:11 AM on 06/23/2011
I don't understand why she had to be invited to attend her mother's funeral. No one can tell you that you can't attend a funeral. I hope she receives the help much needed.
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dil123
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06:32 PM on 06/23/2011
Well, I don't want my stepfather going to my mother's funeral, but I'm sure my sisters will want him there. He molested all us girls. My mother had to put it in the will that he is not to attend her funeral. I went to my young cousin's college graduation and he was there, and I spent the whole time trying not to look at him. I am 47 years old and I still can't bear to be in the same room with him, the feelings are still so raw. I will never show up to another family function that he is at. I may miss some things, but I have been dealing with it through avoidance, and that has been working best for me.
12:42 AM on 06/24/2011
I would hire a bodyguard to keep him away. If he shows up, I would probably say that your mother didn't want him there because he molested all of you. Press charges. I'm so sorry that happened to you.
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anitafeeney
no matter where you go there you are
03:27 AM on 06/24/2011
honey i have been there done that ( no it was not my dad who did it )but i would strongly suggest a support group of some sort for survivors of child abuse what you suffered is horrible i am sorry i will say this what has helped me is the fact that when i can i have used my expierence to help others who have suffered simmiler things in their life the man who did this to you should BE IN JAIL i am sorry you have had to deal with this
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silsez
Wait for it...
11:04 AM on 06/23/2011
I've never before heard of "being [formally] invited" to attend a relative's funeral. Wouldn't it be a kick in the teeth if, as a result of the show, she finds out no invitations were ever issued and the rest of the family just assumed she'd show up? Bummer.
12:30 PM on 06/23/2011
Maybe her hoarding started before her mom died. Maybe mom was a neat freak and threw out a lot of her daughter's belongings, like dolls,i.e. And daughter resented this and made her angry at her mom. Eventually not going to her funeral.