Religion As A Bridge To Understanding, Not A Bomb Of Destruction: An Interview With Eboo Patel

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[galanos1]

10:22 AM on 06/29/2011

Their is lot of discussion out and about, concerning the Wrath of God, and hell: The misunderstanding is, an overwhelming amount of souls believe God Created hell. This knowledge could not be possible, it is impossible for God to have Created hell. Yes, God does take “Wrath” upon the sinners and the evil doers as He sees fit. Each and every soul, individually, create their own hell, by not Repenting of their sins, and asking God for Forgiveness, Grace and Salvation. When we walk away from the True Light of God, and live a life of sin, and when we fail to Repent and continue a sinful existence, we walk away from the Grace, Salvation, and the Light of God. We create and fall into our own hell, a reality that exists apart from the Light and Grace of God. Hell is forever separate from the Light of God. To claim God created hell is to claim God is a sinner. Their are two realities God can never commit to. God can never sin, never. God is sinless; God could not ever have created the world and reality for our Salvation if God was a sinner. God will never disrespect our freedom, our free will, never. Yes, there are multiple quotes in Bible Scripture that indicate the “WRATH” of God. To proclaim God created hell! Is to commit blasphemy. It’s to deny your own existence within the Word of God.

[St Juan Bautista]

01:26 PM on 06/30/2011

galanos; very impressive, but: for Father the creator is nothing impossible, you must know "for God nothing is imposible" God did created hell with the purpose, of hell being hell and stay hell, but hell didn't like the idea of being hell, and like you said; every single thing created by God possess a free will, so hell's desire to be heaven is deceiving the world into believing tha he is heaven... when you put this in human words, is like this, the human was created by the will of father, life and death, heaven and earth, and God the creator saw it was good, but father the creator whent to rest on the seventh day, ence come the earth [ hell death ] and took over the control of the humans deceiving them into believing there is no such a thing as a creator, science and acknowledge is the bait, humans are being keep hook on since the beginning of the world, the devil's desire to be like God, the death's desire to be life, the earth's desire to be heaven, science and acknowledge is the humans desire to know every thing and to be like God, but humans are being deceived by the devil, earth death, is called human nature, the planet earth is hell is death and is going to burn soon, [e-mail].... the way you put it is; hell created himself which make hell another god, is only one creator.

[galanos1]

04:03 PM on 06/30/2011

I don't quiet understand your meaning here, but I will try to define my post a little bit further. To get a better idea of what I am talking about you must go back prior to your Birth. You don't remember where you existed prior to Birth, no one does, the reason for this is God within one second of His existence (that has no beginning and no end)Created our reality. Immediately God saved us from live oblivion, the existence where satan exists and all sinners will dwell for ever, for eternity. Now that one second prior to our existence is where we existed, God did not abandon us their, our current existence is this reality that God Created for our Salvation. Now to exist apart from the light of God is to exist in live oblivion, or hell, or whatever you want to call it, but apart from the light of God. Pray to our Lord and you will be enlightened further, you will never gain any additional knowledge without constant Prayer.

[St Juan Bautista]

09:40 PM on 06/27/2011

Religion is not a bridge, science is a bridge that religion is using to cross from death to hell. once everyone crosses to hell, the bridge will fall down too. relgion is sacred politics, better say sacred deceit.

[galanos1]

11:30 AM on 06/29/2011

Science is the by-product of measure and time, measure and time is a by-product of the Word of God. What you are proclaiming is a rotten stigma that commenced with satan, when he deceived Eve, your ancestor. Unbelievers and idle worshipers that proclaim science is anything other that a by-product, are claiming that they were dead before they were Born into this world. That is insane, no one can be alive and breathing without a soul. Stop your rotten stigma.

[St Juan Bautista]

12:32 PM on 06/29/2011

Whoa the perfect subject, you are to good to waste any words, let's start on insane; no one can be alive and breathing without a soul?, okay pay attention; the human soul is being keep enslaved, in bondage since the beginning of the world, science and acknowledge is the way the world is using to deceive the human and comdent his soul for eternity, the soul is the life that keeps the body moving [ THE BODY BAG ] tell me where do you think the soul of the human goes after he die? because life never dies, the reason is call life, but matter is already death, your body is death, and tricking your soul into thinking this is it, is nothing after this, deceit, measure and time are fake created and invented by humans, did you just said the word of God? and are defending science, can't have your cake and eat it too, must pick only one side,.. humans are the by-product of animals and science, deal with it.[ ractional animals? ] and don't you dare to say you are not death, is just a matter of time, the fake time humans invented,

[me again]

09:16 AM on 06/26/2011

Religion is the gate to hate, fear and fantasyland.

[taxtherichNJ]

11:47 PM on 06/28/2011

I know plenty of hate-mongering secular people and atheists. BTW, I'm not fingering you, LOL!

[me again]

06:24 PM on 06/29/2011

Actually most secular and atheists are pacifists, but you go on believing verbatim in the invisible man.....

[taxtherichNJ]

08:43 PM on 06/29/2011

Jim Jones was an admitted atheist. Just saying. Atheists can be just as hateful, fearmongering and delusional.

[angelavictoria5]

08:44 PM on 06/25/2011

Yes, we have to agree to disagree and respect all people because we have one Creator. As long as all embrace this idea, we will have peace. This is a hard concept for an evangelical Christian to accept just as it is hard for a Muslim to accept our ways. I still remember France brushing off our Muslim extremist concerns. Then the bombings started in their country. We have to lay down our weapons in the name of peace until we find common ground. But we cannot play stupid.

[HCLiberal]

09:49 PM on 06/25/2011

Yes, we have to agree to disagree and respect all people because we have one Creator. As long as all embrace this idea, we will have peace.
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I hope you don't mean that unless all embrace the idea of a Creator, there cannot be peace.

[St Juan Bautista]

05:44 AM on 06/26/2011

Yeat that's what she meant, but, there is never going to be peace on planet earth, never neever, planet earth is like an addict, a junky, is bleeding to death, no hope for her, and unless you embrace the idea of a creator, there cannot be hope for you too.

[Dan Jighter]

02:39 PM on 06/26/2011

"we have one Creator."

How do you know that?

"As long as all embrace this idea, we will have peace."

I don't embrace that idea as an atheist. Am I a threat to world peace?

[St Juan Bautista]

09:54 PM on 06/27/2011

You are the world, earth, world, planet, death matter ball, you are part of it. pop up from the ground, and back to the ground will go, Now, you see any peace around you? because if you do, you must be blind, can't see reallity

[galanos1]

12:45 PM on 06/29/2011

I know that because I am breathing and am alive. I have a soul, something you do believe you have. You believe in rot, your belief in science in a rotten stigma. You cannot exist without a soul.

[yavuz]

04:55 PM on 06/25/2011

YES!

Please Christian Americans, stop bombing our villages, weddings and funerals, and millions of civilians all over the middle east. Start building bridges...please

[JOZEVZ]

01:43 PM on 06/25/2011

Eboo, Eboo, Eboo; It's a sham/e that You, Fredricks, Stedman, Epstein, Quinn, Blair, Meacham, Waters, Tutu, Chopra, Tenzin Gyatso and Religio Mafioso's hijacked the works of the [real] "American Hidden-Prophet" a/k/a Dr. Harry W. Theriault of whom hath written several books (i.e., The HOLy MIZAN [which was plagiarized by Islamics] & The BOOK OF TRANSFINITY [which University's Professors hath Plagiarized]) that you hath gotten ye hands on, Yet ye and gang hath done everything possible to Hide his Works (not ye Works or ideas) from unsuspecting Americans and or this space-ship Earth's Youth et al. Note: Selling/capitalizing off illegally produced "Books" is wrong. But YO all will never get the "Noble-Peace-Prize" or similar by such "thefts Of Intellectual Property" etc. IT IS TIME to giv'th credit to "SHILOH" the 'Photon Bringer Of The Apocalypse On (NEBULA-BUILT) S.S. Earth!

[ThinkCreeps]

07:08 PM on 06/25/2011

Is there a new website where you can get `make an unhinged religious screed'. There's been a huge increase in this kind of stuff over the last few days.

[BurtonDesque]

03:58 AM on 06/25/2011

Theism is a reactionary force in any post-Enlightenment society, like our own.

And as for religion being a bomb of destruction, one has to look no farther than the Jihadists or the Dominionists to see that is a real concern.

[researcher]

09:45 PM on 06/24/2011

"Science never discrimina­tes,"

science does not discriminate but those that profess to do science discriminate. ie human thing; it matters not if religion or science, humans are not perfect therefore they are bias in all areas of judgments and research.

if you come to understand this quote by thoreau it will help you understand the human mind much better. if not then someday.

There is more religion in men's science than there is science in their religion - Thoreau

or this quote by einstein.

"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods."

[buggeroffyou666]

10:30 PM on 06/24/2011

And that is why science is self regulating and self correcting. That is why a scantest must put forth his or her research for every other scientist to see if it stands up or not. something religions claim will never do and we know why.

[galanos1]

12:46 PM on 06/29/2011

Science is rotting away.

[ThinkCreeps]

05:03 PM on 06/25/2011

That research stuff still not coming easy to y'all is it?

[buggeroffyou666]

08:42 PM on 06/24/2011

Faith isn't a bridge science is a bridge. Science never discriminates, science is provable, science works for the same for everyone. an heart transplant works everywhere. The elements of the sun are the same no matter who studies them . There are no claims of anyone having the one and only truth in science.

[freducate]

10:20 PM on 06/24/2011

"There are no claims of anyone having the one and only truth in science."

True, but there is the claim that science is the only one truth, which you are doing right here. It sounds great, but it is a faith-based statement, but it's just as much a fairy tale as the ones you are tilting at.

I'm not anti-science in any way, but I am anti-scientism all the way because it behaves in the same ways that it castigates.

[buggeroffyou666]

10:31 PM on 06/24/2011

No its evidence based. Theist never want to be honest about that MOST important deference.

[Dan Jighter]

02:43 PM on 06/26/2011

Firstly, scientism? I guess its time for another shot. Do you realize how tiresome that is?

We aren't claiming that science is the only one truth. How about mathematics, for example? What we are claiming is that your religious BS is not in any way truth.

Atheists are not castigating religion for simply being tribal. We are castigating religion for being stupid. I think it is appropriate for those thoughtful and smart people to be intolerant of stupidity.

And look at what us atheists do. We hold debates. We write books. We comment online. If only religion kept to those activities!

[galanos1]

12:47 PM on 06/29/2011

Science is a rotten stigma, a stigma created by satan to deceive you.

[buggeroffyou666]

06:16 PM on 06/29/2011

Well golly now that you put it like that I'll just bash my head with stones till I have lost enough brains to think like you...duuuuuuuh

[researcher]

07:46 PM on 06/24/2011

TAOISM: Bad things happen.
BUDDHISM: If bad things happen, it isn't really bad.
HINDUISM: This bad thing happened before.
ISLAM: If bad things happen, it is the will of Allah.
PROTESTANTISM: Let bad things happen to someone else.
CATHOLICISM: If bad things happen, you deserved it.
ATHEISM: Bad things happen and religion is to blame for it.
AGNOSTICISM: We will never know why bad things happen.
SPIRITUALISM: Evil spirits cause bad things to happen.
MORMANISM: Too busy making children for bad things to happen.
JUDAISM: Why do bad things always happen to us?


and if you want to know what religion can do to the human mind read st juan's comments. or not.

[freducate]

10:23 PM on 06/24/2011

Amusing, but it was funny as, well, you know, in the original translation.

[St Juan Bautista]

11:33 PM on 06/24/2011

This do not apply to me, none of the about why don't you research me? just by looking at you, seen like you are alright, I' m not about religion, religion is confusion can we agreed on that? lets start from there. peace

[St Juan Bautista]

04:18 PM on 06/24/2011

7 comments, 7 facts. 7 post? = 7 7 7? I see you are holding up on me, but give humanity a break, a chance to decide for themselves, you included too! peace

[ThinkCreeps]

06:25 PM on 06/24/2011

777. That must be what the religious maniac in the street is now planning to fly. Into a building (or perhaps nto a bridge instead).

[St Juan Bautista]

10:20 PM on 06/24/2011

Hey creeps, think for one second, what the f..... he meants?......

[ThinkCreeps]

06:30 PM on 06/24/2011

Perhaps the ride of choice for future superstitious loons to drive into buildings,or maybe now bridges?

[Ami Munro]

04:13 PM on 06/24/2011

Eboo Patel is so good-looking. I might just turn religious. (Just sayin')

[ThinkCreeps]

06:26 PM on 06/24/2011

Do him (and all of us) a favor, turn him non-religious.

[Dan Jighter]

02:10 AM on 06/25/2011

Honestly, I find the guy creepy.

[Michael Cecil]

04:11 PM on 06/24/2011

"I think many interfaith dialogues serve the purpose at least preserving respect for others and their traditions..."

Of course. Of course.

But it is those traditions--of hatred, xenophobia, racism, violence and genocide--that are the PROBLEM here.

In any case, however, there is, unfortunately, a TIME limit to such 'entertainment': the fulfillment of the Prophecy of Daniel 12:1 as a direct consequence of the demonic doctrines of the monotheistic religious 'authorities'; which are also an element of the "traditions".

[St Juan Bautista]

04:09 PM on 06/24/2011

Yahweh 6 Jehovah 13 Lord 17 Krishna 24 Brahma 30 Allah 35 Big bang 42 6 x 6 + 6 = 42 the forty two months the devil was allowed to rule the world. 7 churches 7 angels 7 spirits = 21 or 7 7 7 the trinity of perfection. Yahweh 6 dragon 6 Diablo 6 = 6 6 6 Yahweh started the whole religion confusion, the dragon is the devil himself, and Diablo is not the Italian car. Sixty-six books bible = 18, you got, Sixty-six1 books2 bible3 = 18 / 3 = 6 6 6. 39 books old 27 books new= 6 6 books and the [15] Deuteronomy’s books = 6 6 6 …. ALL WRITTEN RELIGION = 18 / 3 = 6 6 6 the mark of the devil.... Now the other side science. Big bang 7 matter 13 antimatter 23 action 29 reaction 37 evolution 46 scientist 55 and research 6 6 + climax = 6 6 6 the mark of the devil…. Humans1 names2 numbers3 = 18 / 3 = 6 6 6 … Name 1 science 2 numbers 3 = 18 / 3 = 6 6 6 …. There is two beast one on Rev: 13:1 and one on Rev 13:11 no one wants to exist without name and numbers, REV: 13:16 everybody is marked by the devil before is brought into this world, no matter if you want to pick your own names, I WILL 1 GET YOU 2 NUMBERS 3 = 6

[Misterioso Adversario]

04:25 PM on 06/24/2011

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, you are literally the craziest and worst poster

[St Juan Bautista]

03:34 PM on 06/25/2011

Yeah I' m the one and only, as for the worst poster, only if it is no truth, made, or imagination, but is 100% foult prove, look into it, what you got to lose? your neck? don't be Adversario to the mistery,

[ThinkCreeps]

06:28 PM on 06/24/2011

Thank god that psychotrop ic drugs and hypodermic syringes are now widely available.

[St Juan Bautista]

03:53 PM on 06/25/2011

Glad they really working for you, just keep a good suply of them, you don't want to start shaking,..the creeps

[St Juan Bautista]

04:02 PM on 06/24/2011

REV:17:15 Then the angel ST JOHN THE BAPTIST said to me,ALL HUMAN SOUL ON THE PLANET the waters you saw, ALL HUMAN'S SOULS, where the prostitute sits, THE THRONE OF THE DEVIL, THE WORLD are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. ALL HUMANITY NO EXCEPTIONS, The beast and the ten horns HUMAN NAMES NUMBERS you saw will hate the prostitute. RELIGION they will bring her to ruin DOWN DESTROYED, and leave her naked. EXPOSSED, They will eat her flesh EAT IT ALIVE and burn her with fire. CHURCHES AND TEMPLES WILL COME DOWN, THERE WILL BE NOT STONE OVER STONE for God THE CREATOR has put into their hearts ALL TRUTH IS INSIDE THE HUMAN HEART to acomplish his purpose FOR HUMANITY TO KNOW THE TRUTH by agreeing to give the beast HUMAN NAMES NUMBERS their power to rule, THE WHOLE WORLD FOR 42 MONTHS until God's THE FATHER words WILL are fulfilled. FATHER'S PURPOSE AND WILL The woman RELIGION, you saw is the great city BABEL - OR - BABYLON THE GREAT, that rules CONTROLS over the kings EACH CHURCH OR FAITH HAS THEIR OWN NUMBER OF VICTIMS, of the earth. HUMANITY.... there goes for religion, any questions you know where to find me, close your eyes and look, you will see me. that's all folks for now.. peace