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Obama, Boehner Held Secret Debt Ceiling Meeting At White House

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AP/The Huffington Post   First Posted: 06/24/11 09:08 AM ET Updated: 08/24/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AP/The Huffington Post) -- Efforts to find a bipartisan agreement blending huge budget cuts with a must-pass measure to increase how much the government can borrow have entered a new phase after Republican negotiators pulled out of talks led by Vice President Joe Biden.

The exit of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor from the talks on Thursday means the most difficult decisions have been kicked upstairs to GOP House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio and President Barack Obama. The Biden-led group had made solid progress in weeks of negotiations but was at an impasse over taxes.

Cantor, R-Va., said that the Republican-dominated House simply won't support tax increases and that it's time for Obama to weigh in directly because Biden and Democrats were insisting on tax increases. Democrats said it's only fair to blend in additional revenues from closing tax breaks to balance trillions of dollars in spending cuts.

It had long been assumed that the Biden group would set the stage for more decisive talks involving Obama and Boehner. As a result, Cantor's move was interpreted as trying to jump-start the talks rather than blow them up - a view shared by Cantor himself.

"The purpose here is to alter the dynamic," Cantor said.

In fact, Cantor's withdrawal came after Boehner had already made a trek to the White House - in a secret meeting Wednesday night that followed up on a golf outing over the weekend.

According to The Hill newspaper, Cantor's walkout had been planned for weeks:

The timing of Cantor's exit from the talks has been discussed for weeks, and senior House Republicans cast it as a natural progression for the negotiations.

"There have been discussions about when these talks need to end and when the Speaker and the president need to get in the game," one GOP aide explained.


For his part, Cantor didn't inform Boehner of his decision to leave the talks until Thursday, shortly before the news broke, said a GOP official familiar with the situation. The official required anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information.

The White House sought to put a positive spin on developments.

"As all of us at the table said at the outset, the goal of these talks was to report our findings back to our respective leaders," Biden said in a statement. "The next phase is in the hands of those leaders, who need to determine the scope of an agreement that can tackle the problem and attract bipartisan support. For now the talks are in abeyance as we await that guidance."

The Senate's Republican negotiator, Jon Kyl of Arizona, also exited the talks.

For his part, Cantor said the secretive Biden-led talks had "established a blueprint" for agreement on significant cuts in spending.

One of the byproducts of Cantor's departure was to provide an opportunity for partisans on all sides to make statements at odds with the positions they may have to take to achieve a deal. Democrats insist that at least some new revenues are needed - both to soften spending cuts and to line up the Democratic votes needed to pass the measure.

"It will take Democratic votes to pass any debt-ceiling agreement," said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. "As a result, certain things are going to have to be true. We cannot make cuts to Medicare benefits. We have to allow for revenues like wasteful subsidies for ethanol and oil companies. And we have to do something on jobs."

"President Obama needs to decide between his goal of higher taxes or a bipartisan plan to address our deficit," said Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. "He can't have both."

As for Democratic demands for new deficit-financed "jobs" initiatives, McConnell scoffed: "What planet are they on?"

Cantor said that plenty of progress has been made in identifying trillions of dollars in potential spending cuts to accompany legislation to raise the $14.3 trillion cap on the government's ability to borrow money. Passage of the legislation this summer is necessary to meet the government's obligations to holders of U.S. Treasurys. The alternative is a market-shaking, first-ever default on U.S. obligations.

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WASHINGTON (AP/The Huffington Post) -- Efforts to find a bipartisan agreement blending huge budget cuts with a must-pass measure to increase how much the government can borrow have entered a new phase...
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Trapster
Veni, vidi, vomui
07:12 AM on 06/26/2011
I'm beginning to wonder if Obama was/is a Republican plant. Everything compromised on--is by him---for them! And I mean EVERYTHING!
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edejan
10:26 PM on 06/25/2011
So Cantor's hissy fit was planned, but Boehner didn't know about it 'til the last minute? Who's running that show? Sounds like Boehner is being played, along with all the Dems involved. I hope Cantor's constituents take notice of his manipulations to make himself look good at the expense of the country and make him pay for it at the next election.
10:06 PM on 06/25/2011
Planned on-stage drama like Cantor's and Santorum's amazing decision to boldly go where no valid science has been to claim there is no such thing as global warming all plays to the lowest common denominator in the base, in the viewing public and among the head-nodders in the GOP, but, fortunately, as so rightly stated by Adelai Stevenson, "The average American is above average," and watches the play without an ounce of buy-in.
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lqw
Justmyopinion
08:19 PM on 06/25/2011
What happened to Obama's promise of no meeting behind closed doors?
Is this his idea of transparency ?
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strohm
01:20 AM on 06/26/2011
Sorry,that was candidate Obama,not President Obama.You seem to have confused one from the other.
05:11 PM on 06/25/2011
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Try remembering the names of congressional medal of honor winners Field Marshal O'Bumble...
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03:36 PM on 06/25/2011
Obama is a corporate repub rubs win
There will be huge cuts in anything middle class. We will lose unregainable ground. Obama is a traitor. We can never win. I give up.
03:34 PM on 06/25/2011
Obama the repub is game with-cons
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rgilley
Question Authority!
02:11 PM on 06/25/2011
What's so secret? Boehner walked in and told Obama he Will capitulate to Republicans again on medicare and Obama said , "Yes sa' Massa'" end of story.
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Ponderus
Enriched with lanolin.
02:02 AM on 06/26/2011
Limbaugh_couldn't have said it better.
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BeVeryAfraid
Epistemophobia is treatable my little 0 fan poster
12:07 PM on 06/25/2011
It is not tax increases, but getting rid of tax loopholes for corporations and that is what the Republicans are crying about.
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rgilley
Question Authority!
02:15 PM on 06/25/2011
Republicans are Fascist right wing corporatist who represent the 2% of corporate elites who are buying our Democracy out from under us as we sit home don't even bother to vote against them. Maybey we don't deserve a Democracy we cannot even defend at the voting booths.
Soon we will live in the two class society Republicans have envisioned since the days of the old Robber Barons.
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Justmyopinion
08:22 PM on 06/25/2011
I am sure Obama and his family will live in the upper class with the Republicans......Lol
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porsche996
an inelastic scattering of photons
03:29 AM on 06/25/2011
Washington DC has the worst record on keeping secrets in history....they show up each day on the aitch pee.....every day it''s a new secret I'm reading about...
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laylahb
02:12 AM on 06/25/2011
Of course he'll cave. Past experience shows how pitiful a negotiator he is. Same goes for the rest of the Dems.

Pathetic, just pathetic how these guys always snatch defeat from the arms of victory.
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Jeanette Schotl
01:21 AM on 06/25/2011
I think Obama's letting the wolves of Washington show their fangs before he drops his shoe.. He's not stupid, it'll play out til everyone is so tired of the No Taxes hue and cry of the Repub's/TP and cut, cut cut all programs of the common working class, elders and poor that they'll finally understand just how much we all lose if this keeps on. WHO KNOWS,MAYBE A FEW FOLKS WILL EVEN THINK BEFORE THEY VOTE NEXT TIME.
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gypsysailor
Things that might have been never were.
11:50 PM on 06/24/2011
Going to sell us out again Mr. President? What did you give away this time?
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treadway123
treadway123
11:29 PM on 06/24/2011
I read another Article that stated Mr. Boehner had NO idea untill the last Second Before Cantor walked out, an threw Boehner under the Bus! I am inclined to believe this article is WRONG, the other one is correct----Cantor stabed Mr. Boehner in the back. He's been waiting in the wing for a long time to do just that, we watched him breath over Boehner shoulder just waiting.
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strohm
01:23 AM on 06/26/2011
Your thinking process is really strange.
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Ken Detweiler
10:54 PM on 06/24/2011
They are hoping Obama will cave again.
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strohm
01:23 AM on 06/26/2011
Now why would they think that?