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House Rebuffs Obama On Libya But Won't Cut Funding


First Posted: 06/24/11 06:18 PM ET Updated: 08/24/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- In some of the most bizarre votes seen yet in this Congress, House lawmakers from both parties banded together Friday to rebuke President Barack Obama over his steps in Libya.

The House dealt an embarrassing blow to the White House by voting down a measure that would have formally authorized limited U.S. military operations in Libya. The vote, 123-295, was purely symbolic, but it conveyed the level of frustration felt by many on Capitol Hill over Obama’s decision to proceed with military action in Libya without seeking Congressional authorization.

Lawmakers followed with a second vote to cut off funding for Libya, with some exceptions. That bill also failed, 180-238.

The two votes appeared to send conflicting messages on where the House stands on the issue: Why would lawmakers vote against authorizing military action but also vote against defunding the effort? The fact that the defunding measure went down also appeared to be a slap in the face to Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), who made a case to his colleagues for passing it shortly before the vote occurred.

“By allowing our forces to continue playing a limited support role, it would not undermine our NATO partners. It would, however, prevent the President from carrying out any further hostilities without Congress’ approval. It would exercise Congress’ Constitutional power to provide some much-needed accountability,” Boehner said during remarks on the floor.

“This is a responsible approach," he added. "The House should support it.”

Members in both parties disagreed that Boehner came off looking overconfident on the measure, however. Some said the real issue was that it proposed cutting only some funds but not all. Specifically, it would have cut money for operations relating to “hostilities,” but allowed funds for search and rescue, airplane refueling and intelligence.

Prior to the vote on the defunding measure, its fate “was uncertain. There was no whipping. It was just, ‘Vote your conscience,’” Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas) said after the vote had taken place.

“I think [Boehner] just generally understood everyone is in different places,” Brady said. “I think the message from Congress is not only is Libya not authorized, we don’t want to fund it. Period.”

Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) agreed that the failure of the defunding measure had not, in his opinion, made Boehner appear weakened.

“I think he looked the statesman,” Connolly said, adding that he thought Boehner "spoke from principle” when he said that the proposal gave Members a chance to weigh in on Obama bypassing Congress on Libya.

The Virginia Democrat described an undercurrent of “war weariness” affecting many in Congress. “People are just tired,” he said. “They’re tired of the costs. They’re tired of the deaths. They’re tired of seeing their men and women coming home without limbs.”

In a statement after the votes, Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) vowed to give the House its chance to vote on “the most powerful opportunity to end the war in Libya.” He is proposing an amendment to the forthcoming Defense spending bill that would fully defund the effort.

“The American people do not support this war,” Kucinich said. “Congress does not support this war.”

Friday’s votes mark the first time the full House has weighed in on Obama’s decision three months ago to allow for limited U.S. military action in Libya. And their votes showed just how fractured both parties are over how to proceed on the issue.

In total, 70 Democrats voted against authorizing limited action in Libya while eight Republicans voted for it. On the defunding measure, 89 Republicans voted against it while 36 Democrats voted for it.

Among some of the more noticeable shifts: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) voted to authorize limited military action while her longtime friend and ally Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.) opposed it. Meanwhile, conservative Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) took to the floor to praise House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) for firmly supporting the authorization of military action.

Key Republican voices on war-related matters also ended up on different pages from one another. House Armed Services Chairman Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) voted against authorizing limited forces, while House Intelligence Committee Chairman Hal Rogers (R-Ky.) supported authorization.

“President Obama has failed to explain to the American people what we are doing in Libya, but that doesn’t change the fact that the United States has important strategic interests in finishing the job there," Rogers said in a statement after the vote. "We must also keep our commitments to NATO and our other allies who are engaged in this mission. Our allies, and our enemies, must know that when America commits its armed forces to a mission, we will not leave until victory is achieved."

More telling, however, were the schizophrenic votes among liberal and anti-war Democrats.

Torn between supporting Obama’s efforts to prevent a Libyan massacre and rebuking him for heading into war without Congressional consent, some progressive Democrats appeared uneasy as they stood before the lectern casting votes. Others watched the vote tallies on the wall for several minutes, seeing how their colleagues voted, before they cast their ballots.

In the end, Reps. Lynn Woolsey (Calif.), Mike Honda (Calif.), Barbara Lee (Calif.) and Jim McGovern (Mass.)—all members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus—opposed the authorization of limited military action. Others in the Caucus, including Reps. Donna Edwards (Md.), Jan Schakowsky (Ill.), Peter Welch (Vt.) and Jim McDermott (Wash.), voted to give Obama authorization.

“How can this not be war?” Woolsey asked before the votes. “If another country launched attacks at the United States, you’d better believe we’d call it war.”

The votes even split Progressive Caucus co-chairs: Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) opposed granting authorization for military forces, while Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) voiced strong support for it.

“When people are being slaughtered by dictators around this world … I think it is appropriate for the United States to stand up and protect those people,” Ellison said before the vote. “Yes, we do have business in Libya: stopping mass murderers.”

Leading voices in the Progressive Caucus made their case Thursday with a statement calling on Congress to end the war and "uphold the laws that characterize America’s commitment to democratic governance."

But, perhaps in a preview of the disorientation among liberals amid Friday's votes, one Member's name was noticeably missing from the Caucus statement: its co-chair, Ellison.

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WASHINGTON -- In some of the most bizarre votes seen yet in this Congress, House lawmakers from both parties banded together Friday to rebuke President Barack Obama over his steps in Libya. The Hou...
WASHINGTON -- In some of the most bizarre votes seen yet in this Congress, House lawmakers from both parties banded together Friday to rebuke President Barack Obama over his steps in Libya. The Hou...
WASHINGTON -- In some of the most bizarre votes seen yet in this Congress, House lawmakers from both parties banded together Friday to rebuke President Barack Obama over his steps in Libya. The Hou...
WASHINGTON -- In some of the most bizarre votes seen yet in this Congress, House lawmakers from both parties banded together Friday to rebuke President Barack Obama over his steps in Libya. The Hou...
 
 
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MayaBeach
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01:30 PM on 06/27/2011
Rep. Lynn Woolsey (Calif.), said: “How can this not be war?” If another country launched attacks at the United States, you’d better believe we’d call it war.” How true. Labeling Congressional votes "schizophrenic" seems appropriate.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Hal Rogers said: “President Obama has failed to explain to the American people what we are doing in Libya, but that doesn’t change the fact that the United States has important strategic interests in finishing the job there," How can one finish a job that has no definition? That's like running a race that has no green or checkered flag.

I have to question Republican motives here because they never once questioned the Bush/Cheney war agenda. Could it be just seizing any opportunity to make Obama look bad?
10:34 AM on 06/30/2011
The motives were questioned all the time by Congress.. Its amazing how 9/11 has been forgotten. Without 9/11 there would not have been wars. 9/11 was intended to disrubt our economy by the terrorist, it did and continues to do so.
If Obama can not define Libya then we do not belong there. You do not fight a war without a plan.
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den1953
The best politicians are for free!
12:47 PM on 06/27/2011
I suppose then this means the United States has taken a stand on the war on terror, congress has just abolished it?
11:58 AM on 06/27/2011
I thought this President would make the world like us more? What a silly notion that was in the first place. Yet, so many people have bought into it.
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Sad But True
Food for thought tastes like chicken
01:08 PM on 06/27/2011
He has. What does this article have to do with your failed point?
01:40 PM on 06/27/2011
Oh brother! Some people have the blinders on. Visit Chicago lately? How about a McDonalds? Or Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc.
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Cacey
Ignore rudeness, honor discussion
10:53 AM on 06/27/2011
Meanwhile, in the Senate there is a bipartisan resolution gaining speed to support the President.
09:15 AM on 06/27/2011
Vote out ALL of the old guard, both sides - we need younger and fresh blood and they don't have to have a Harvard degree and millions of dollars - look where that has got us!
09:14 AM on 06/27/2011
We are footing 80%of that war and we foot 75% of all of NATO and now ware are sending 45 million in weapons to Syria - where and when does the insanity stop!
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armchairpickleback
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies" -Ron Paul
02:08 PM on 06/27/2011
ronpaul2012.com
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J Michael Norris
Don't mistake narrow-mindedness for perspicacity.
08:50 AM on 06/27/2011
Political theater in D.C. is starting to look like an elementary school play.
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08:47 AM on 06/27/2011
This only goes to show we have the worst government money can buy...!
03:28 AM on 06/27/2011
Im peach ment is the only rightous course to follow.
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Sad But True
Food for thought tastes like chicken
01:08 PM on 06/27/2011
Republicans are always quick to call for impeachment over sexual relations or coalition fly-overs, but they fell in love with illegal torture and a war based almost exclusively of lies.

Gotta love 'em!
10:42 AM on 06/30/2011
There are several Euro reports out Obama and Clinton lied to NATO about abuse in Libya. it was not anywhere near what they claimed according to Euro investigators.
And Obama has yet to tell congress why we are there. Has he forgotten why?
01:39 AM on 06/27/2011
President Obama doesn't have to play any politics on this one. He is just right and doing the right thing. Probably the first US military action that will reflect positively on our country in a very long time. There are lots of detractors. I think that this is a use, not a misuse of military force.
03:26 AM on 06/27/2011
What an Obamapologist dr0ne. I suppose BHO can really do nothing wrong in your eyes.
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den1953
The best politicians are for free!
12:52 PM on 06/27/2011
So i suppose supporting Gaddafi to gain financial rewards from oil is doing the right thing even after a release of a known terrorist was done, i thought the Bush Doctrine was the Republican mantra with those Bush generals in place i can't understand why the Republicans are dropping it?
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Marrymeplease
12:59 PM on 06/27/2011
And he can't do anything right in your eyes. You found fault with killing Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Because it was order by President Obama.
08:45 AM on 06/27/2011
Why David-
No approval
Who is going to like the US for this one

Are you a MRON or something
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toxicshock
Sassy, snarky, smart
10:57 AM on 06/27/2011
What's a "MRON"?
09:09 PM on 06/26/2011
If they won't cut funding,why bother to rebuke.It's a useless action...
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waujvari1274
10:38 AM on 06/27/2011
True. But if public opinion, in six months, turns and the majority of voters are against it, then these politicians can say they were against it. Mostly because the average voter could care less about what these politicians actually do, just what they say.
07:00 PM on 06/26/2011
Tonight's newscast reported that NATO has completed 4,700 bombing raids on Libya in the past two months, but stated that it is unclear that the situation is much changed from when the raids began. The report also noted that civilians from both sides of the civil war are fleeing the country by the tens of thousands to escape the ongoing war and the bombing raids. It all sounds terribly and sadly familiar. This is not a matter for us to try and control, and we cannot afford the bombs and other costs of this intervention. If almost 5,000 raids and more than two months of attacks have not changed the situation, do we really think we should continue? If the very conservative governments of the UK, France and Italy want to continue this war, we need to let them do it without our support, weapons and funding.
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pphhrogg
domestic clown goddess
06:11 PM on 06/26/2011
Obama doesn't need permission to join a NATO mission. The USA is a NATO member, so we are obliged to help out in NATO missions.
07:05 PM on 06/26/2011
Do you seriously believe that? Our constitution trumps a NATO resolution, each and every time. Our government should follow OUR constitution regardless of what agreements with other countries suggest.
11:40 PM on 06/26/2011
Do you seriously believe that? How about the "UN Police Action" in Korea in the early 1950's. OK it wasn't NATO, but it was an UN action that sure looked a lot like a war that did not have the Constitutionally required Congressional declaration. I must have missed the votes on the wars in Vietnam, the Dominican Republic, Granada, Lebanon, Panama, Serbia, Sudan, Iraq I, Iraq 2, Afghanistan, to name a few. Presidents from both parties have "trumped" our Constitution on using the military plenty.
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Sad But True
Food for thought tastes like chicken
01:09 PM on 06/27/2011
Did Bush have the right to invade a sovereign nation without provocation?
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trinfax99
11:06 PM on 06/26/2011
You are absolutely correct!
05:41 PM on 06/26/2011
Wow I thought the Dem's were against war not in the national instrest.
08:46 AM on 06/27/2011
they are against anything Republicans do-

George Bush was a war monger, hitler, and names i cannot say

Where is the outrage from the left- Double Standard Much libs
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Marrymeplease
01:03 PM on 06/27/2011
Come on people where is your brain? Do anyone remember the people being against the Afghanistan war? It was dropping the ball on the Afghanistan war to go invade Iraq. That is what people got piss off about.
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Sad But True
Food for thought tastes like chicken
01:12 PM on 06/27/2011
Many are, myself included. Dems can typically criticize "their own". The same cannot be said for the other side of the aisle.
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Mary Mendy
be honest but have a sense of humour
05:05 PM on 06/26/2011
what was the point of all that fuss if they were not gonna cut funding, Obama is not even listening to them