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'Terri': John C. Reilly, Jacob Wysocki Bring Real Life Confusion, Awkwardness To New Indie Film

Terri

First Posted: 06/24/11 09:35 AM ET Updated: 08/24/11 06:12 AM ET

There's a moment near the beginning of "Terri," the upcoming indie dramedy about an overweight student struggling to find his place in the labyrinth of horror known as high school, in which the miserable protagonist is sitting in his vice principal's office, awkward and unsure of why he is there. Vice Principal Fitzgerald, played by John C. Reilly, pulls out a tin of malt balls from his desk and offers one to Terri, played by Jacob Wysocki, and the two sit in silence, chewing on the chocolate candies and contemplating things far beyond scholastics.

It takes the pair a good ten seconds of nearly dead screen time to finish chewing, and the camera holds on for the entire time, capturing every bite and swallow, saving each as a record of the discomfort. But while the scenario sounds excruciating for those involved, it draws some of the biggest laughs from the audience -- in large part because it is so painfully real.

"I wasn’t even playing it for a laugh," John C. Reilly told The Huffington Post at a reporters roundtable about the fim. "It’s like, it ends up being kind of funny in the movie, but in the moment I was just chewing and I couldn’t talk without spitting food out of my mouth, it takes a certain amount of time. And it’s just those weird little odd interactions that you remember from high school, when you’re first interacting with adults in an intense way that aren’t your parents or that aren’t your relatives."

Reilly's allusion to the small, true moments of high school, all the pain and discomfort and confusion, those are what make "Terri," a decidedly small film about small town struggles, authentic and work so well. Terri is mocked for his weight, alienated by peers and virtually alone at home as he cares for his uncle, who is in the early stages of Alzheimer's. He's taken to wearing flannel pajamas to school -- both an actualization, Reilly said, for that old nightmare of showing up to school in your PJs, and a sign that he's truly given up -- and receives attention only when his considerable upper chest is being squeezed by classmates.

Wysocki is far more personable in real life than is his character -- before being cast in this drama, he had strictly done comedy, including the show "Huge" -- but he said that he in many ways related to his character's struggles with bullying.

"The thing that that confused me is why people did it, like, why does this make me different?" he told HuffPo. "Just the fact that I’m big, like, that’s it? And I think Terri kind of questions the same thing, like, 'this is who I am, I might as well be comfortable with it, because they’re going to make fun of me regardless.' To me, I’m just like, this is who I am, why does it matter?… That’s what I really connected to, just the questioning of why this happens."

Director Azazel Jacobs had a similar view of the character, an innocent victim of teenage cruelty trying to understand how best to deal with it, not to mention why it's happening in the first place. Tackling bullying, he said, was fundamental to any realistic film about high school.

"Any story that depicts these years in any honest way has to deal with it," he said in another round table with reporters. "It’s just how it is. Especially with somebody like Terri, who’s not choosing to be a misfit, y’know? He’s not a skater, he’s not a stoner, he’s not that. He’s too big for this world, there’s nothing that he can do to fit in, there’s no space for him."

In that initial meeting in his office, Reilly's Fitzgerald tells Terri that he's "one of the good hearted kids," and giving him a small boost of confidence that allows him to speak to a pretty girl who has been ostracized for a peer-pressured sexual indiscretion; the sudden turning on Heather (Olivia Crocicchia), complete with a total campaign of stares and shunning, also rings true to high school drama. There are no outrageous pranks or ridiculous stunts pulled on her, just the stigma of straying outside the norm, which, as Terri's predicament makes clear, is the worst fate possible in high school.

The two seemingly mismatched teens -- she a pretty blonde, he a pajamas-clad fat kid -- grow closer, and Terri experiences his first pangs of potential lust. But that adolescent growth runs secondary to the relationship between pupil and vice principal; as Terri and Fitzgerald spend more time together, it's revealed that the adult, quietly in the throes of marriage turmoil, has precious little advice for Terri beyond earnest encouragement and companionship during a bumpy journey.

That, though, is part of what gives Reilly the opportunity to play the role in such a relatable and honest manner. Jacobs credits Reilly for threading a difficult character needle.

"I think a lot of the credit really goes to John, because I think the character could be really easily portrayed as someone to make fun of, and someone who’s just easy to laugh at," Jacobs said. "But I think that there’s pauses and there’s times and there’s the way he expresses them, that feel much more grounded... these are people that I know, the people that have stayed with me, they have felt very human to me, and I felt like that’s what John has done with this character."

Part of Reilly's ability to pull off that balance came from his own experience with teachers; at one point in the film, Fitzgerald takes Terri and another student to his secretary's funeral, a risky move that cements their friendship as something closer to equals than just student-teacher.

"It’s a little bit of this risky thing, like, I went out a couple of times with teachers in HS, and there’s this official capacity that they’re in, even though they’re out in the world," Reilly remembered. "Like, I went shopping for art supplies one time with the brother that taught art class at my school, and it was like, it was really fun actually, and I think we captured some that spirit like when they go out to the diner together and it’s like 'I can’t believe I’m sitting in the diner with my guidance counselor, it’s just so weird, you’re a human being.' So I think the movie really successfully captures that odd feeling of sitting with a teacher out of context, and it’s like sitting with a hero without their mask on or something, like wow they’re a human being, and somehow they seem smaller or more flawed and I think it’s one of the cool things about the film, you see that moment of honesty that ends up happening between them where the teacher basically admits 'I don’t know what I’m doing. The world is really messed up, and good luck to you kids, I hope you make it, I hope I make it.' I think it takes a certain amount of vulnerability on both of their parts to have that breakthrough moment, and I think it’s one of those things that makes the movie really original."

"Terri" hits theaters on July 1st.

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There's a moment near the beginning of "Terri," the upcoming indie dramedy about an overweight student struggling to find his place in the labyrinth of horror known as high school, in which the misera...
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02:31 AM on 06/27/2011
Funny clip.
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mphalen
12:40 AM on 06/26/2011
Terri with an "i" is the female version. It should be spelled "Terry".
03:29 PM on 06/26/2011
Maybe that's one of the reasons he doesn't fit in.
12:54 AM on 06/25/2011
Didn't Reilly already do this last summer with "CYRUS"?
Except without high school and a HOT mom as the backdrop?
12:40 AM on 06/25/2011
Kid reminds me of Jonah Hill crossed with a doughnut.
11:39 PM on 06/24/2011
I have been overweight my entire life and it's the worst feeling you can ever have. Part of what makes it so bad is your own opinion of yourself, not necessarily others' opinions. This is more prevalent to me in recent years because as I get older (I'm in college now) I don't hear any demeaning remarks like I used to when I was younger. Unfortunately for me I didn't fit in with a group of misfits or outcasts like I always hear other people talking about. I mostly keep to myself, which has made me very lonely and has even caused me to talk to myself to deal with it.

I won't be able to get over this and truly say 'it gets better with age' unless I either change my appearance (I've already lost quite a bit of weight but I have a way to go and a poorly-shaped body still) or unless I view myself as I am in a better light.
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CJCalgirl
nothing breeds faster than stupid
01:12 AM on 06/25/2011
tyler, Two things...One, volunteer somewhere, like a senior center.  Takes you out of yourself a bit, and the feedback will be positive.  Second, determine where your talents lie and ignore the rest.  Do what excites you.  Taking the 'road less traveled' is WAY more rewarding in the long run, and maybe in the short one as well.  When your brain has something more 'real' to focus on, like the hardships of others, or an exciting new field of study, you will forget about your personal dilemma, all the while you are also eating healthier, and WALKING every day.  Keep good habits, but don't get bogged down, because that way leads to misery and relapse.  Make your diet and exercise a 'SIDE' issue.  Not the MAIN one.  And good luck!  People who MATTER will look beyond if you show there is MORE to you than what is visible at first glance.
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MsLiz
burned out attorney, flaming liberal
02:29 AM on 06/25/2011
I too have fought weight issues, and am having success with Weight Watchers and nutrition supplements recommended by my MD.  I also have my thyroid level optimized.  Please don't think you must be this way  for ever, because I know of no reason why it should be.  I recommend counseling to get at reasons for the poor eating.  College is the perfect time to learn how to reach and maintain a good wait.  You have more control over your own choice of food and snacks, access for information about what those food and snacks do once you have swallowed them, and access to a PE department.
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tweeksmom
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11:14 PM on 06/24/2011
Unfortunately, that rotten tomato "Bad Teacher" will outsell this one, ten to one......
12:13 PM on 06/26/2011
It's so true. Green Lantern will probably stick around and outsell it too. I'm just surprised the didn't rewrite half of it so they could sell it in 3d.
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ignacio sanabria
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11:11 PM on 06/24/2011
High school experiences, god or bad, could have lasting effects in adult life.
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MsLiz
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02:31 AM on 06/25/2011
And smart graduates leave the bad behind.
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Godweiser
The eyes have it.
07:14 AM on 06/25/2011
I'm told there's a certain satisfaction in going back to high school reunions, because often the beautiful people have reverted to mere mortals and others have blossomed. But I never seem to actually be able to make it to those reunions; I have the sort of job where you just don't take vacations.
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03:35 AM on 06/25/2011
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
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08:30 PM on 06/24/2011
Good films about high school, that feel genuine, are rare beasts. Look at all the pain in the comments below mine.

I hated being in high school and wound up teaching in one for a big chunk of my working life. The confidence to 'go back in' came from college. At least I could tell my favorite geeks, lost souls, creative nutcakes, and talented non-athletes, that it really can get better.
One got a MacArthur 'genius' grant, another is often on CNN, one wrote a best selling non-fiction book on economics, and one has been a career entertainer with an embarrassingly rich resume. I just heard from one who is part of the cast of The Book of Mormon. So many more good stories out there from our non-special underfunded semi-rural school where athletics mattered most, and anyone in the band, interested in media, or (gasp) possibly gay, suffered without much support from a sympathetic faculty member.
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Godweiser
The eyes have it.
07:21 AM on 06/25/2011
I probably could have gone and taught, but I know that it's a calling, like being a priest, social worker, nurse or chef (which I am) that requires dedication to carry you through the patches where you are underappreciated and underpaid. 

I feel bad for comparing a chef to a nurse, social worker or teacher, because all three endure more and do more than chefs any time, and I am the first to admit it, but that's just the thing. I don't think there is any way I could go back to high school and possibly teach those jocks and other sundry arrogant types without the urge to apply a little revenge, and that revenge would be misplaced and unfair.

I'd also probably turn the administrators and principal into meat pies. Because those people really are the ones that prop up the Jockocracy.

I'm sure it's wonderful to teach those you like, but I wouldn't care to teach the others and I'd be doing the calling of teaching a disservice. I suppose my willingness to bear the unpleasant in order to teach is not felt the way that my urge to cook is felt; that I would endure a lot (and have, since I nearly did myself in ignoring a disease to cook) to do it.

I'm glad teaching paid off for you. I wish teachers were given more consideration in society for the vital role they play, particularly as they are not paid what they are worth, educationally, or given the respect due them as a profession.
scottsdalebubbe
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05:48 PM on 06/24/2011
I went to my 35th year high school reunion arriving early in the afternoon when the perennial reunion committee was sitting around making table decorations. I was not a popular girl and I was marginally fat. I had a circle of friends. Perhaps we could be called nerds -- we called ourselves Squircles -- a circle of squares. I was greeted warmly and because we were all sitting around on the floor, I had the opportunity to ask several people individually, "Catch me up on your life." Well ... my big AHA! was that nobody gets to have a perfect life after high school. And some who had big struggles in high school transcended them very creatively in the time that followed. My brother went to his 10th reunion and found that several of the jocks who had called him fat had huge guts and bald heads while my brother had slimmed down, grown taller, and had (and still has) a full head of hair.

I know it's not cool but if I were parenting again and my child were being bullied (as he was), I would hold a meeting at Starbucks with each set of parents and lay it on the line: after an oh-so-innocent and gracious, "I wonder if you are aware that ..." the subtle but unmistakeable message would be, "This is damaging to my child. This is unacceptable. Stop your kid or deal with my lawyer."
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07:21 PM on 06/24/2011
Well, I went to my high school reunion last year, something I usually don't do (also because I grew up in northern CA and I live in Seattle now), just too see a couple of friends who were always nice to me (I was a very nerdy girl, not too far from the Amy Farrah Fowler/Bernadette Rostenkowski stereotypes on "The Big Bang Theory.") It turns out that most of the popular girls never furthered their education past HS or a bachelor from some second-rate college and they now sell real estate or used cars. I got my PhD and I'm a scientist working for the space program. Might not mean much to them, but it sure does to me... ;)
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littleraerae
09:33 PM on 06/24/2011
Judging them based entirely on their "second-rate" education doesn't make you a better person, although I understand why it secretly does make you feel better.
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Godweiser
The eyes have it.
07:26 AM on 06/25/2011
In other words, you're highly useful because you banked on what doesn't fade with age; your brains. Kudos, and who cares what a real estate hustler thinks, right? They're a dime a dozen.
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Godweiser
The eyes have it.
07:24 AM on 06/25/2011
Squircles; hah! That's very cute, but also pretty dated, since the term 'square' isn't in use. I guess 'nerd' replaced it. I'm proud of my nerdness; the further away from the self-doubt of adolescence, the more I realize that high school's hierarchy is a lie. 

I don't know what I'll do if a child is bullied; but my first instinct is to blame the other kids' parents and get in their faces.
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Aj Armstrong
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05:08 PM on 06/24/2011
I was the chubby girl in school and the misery was unbearable. I've always battled a weight problem, only recently finding the ability to take true control over it and maintain a healthy body size. But it's been a struggle, one that is made all the more difficult when food provides the comfort you habitually seek after relentless teasing and snide remarks from peers. It's a continuous cycle that feels impossible to break. As an adult, I still feel my heart ache every time I see a child whose size has forced him/her into isolation from the rest of the world. To feel uncomfortable in your own skin is horrible. This movie looks fantastic and I can't wait to see it.
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Godweiser
The eyes have it.
07:29 AM on 06/25/2011
I learned to laugh it off and live iwth it. Then I got skinny.

Go figure. Of course, then I got stricken down with a disease and got fat again. But I find that next to the disease, fat isn't nearly so bad, even though I'm working it off the hard way.

But yeah, HS stunk.
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Aj Armstrong
[insert witty self-observations here]
10:50 AM on 06/25/2011
I think high school probably sucks for everyone, even the skinny chicks with gorgeous hair and perfect make-up. Eh, I could be wrong though... they always looked like they were having a pretty damn good time to me :P

I'm sorry to hear about your disease! I hope it's a treatable one and that you're recovering in some way. Being fat definitely loses it's luster once we grow up, get out of high school, and broaden our horizons a little more.

But I still feel guilty that one day I'll have to send my son to high school... poor fella :(
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colred
04:46 PM on 06/24/2011
I've watched this clip twice, it is so right on the mark: the ubiquitous motivational poster in the back, the student made junk on the shelves, the folders, the kid peeping in the door, the VP screaming, the use of the hands as he talks. God, it's like being at work, but with a script and not being responsible for anything.
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colred
04:41 PM on 06/24/2011
As a high school teacher, I am sooo looking forward to this. I was Terri in school--overweight and always the new kids. I always wondered when I was in school why the teachers were some of the biggest bullies. I'm looking forward to seeing it. Really glad I don't have to relive it.
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11:41 PM on 06/24/2011
Did you also wear pajamas to school everyday?
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colred
09:02 AM on 06/25/2011
No, but students do now and I don't really care. The administration wanted us to discipline them for dress code violations. I said, "No". No. 1, what is really the difference between that and casual clothing except the flannel (if they're flannel pjs). And No. 2? I'm not feeling kids clothes to find out if they're flannel pjs. That put the administration in the feeling position. They dropped the rule.
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MsLiz
burned out attorney, flaming liberal
02:36 AM on 06/25/2011
The head of the education department at my college said that a lot of women who felt powerless chose teaching as a means of exerting control over people.   I believe that.  I hope the field has improved in the past forty years.
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Gardawg
04:40 PM on 06/24/2011
The only reason it gets better after high school is because as an adult the bullies are more likely to be held accountable for their actions
11:21 PM on 06/24/2011
How do you figure?
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MsLiz
burned out attorney, flaming liberal
02:36 AM on 06/25/2011
they and their victims are no longer children.
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Tikiman
Just out taking my dogma for a walk.
04:30 PM on 06/24/2011
John C. Reilly: One of the most under-appreciated actors in Hollywood.
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Aj Armstrong
[insert witty self-observations here]
05:04 PM on 06/24/2011
Too true. I fell in love with him after seeing Dolores Claiborne and Boogie Nights for the first time. He's phenomenal and deserves far more attention then he gets!
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WYHKTai-Tai
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10:07 PM on 06/25/2011
Yes! Also loved him in 'What's Eating Gilbert Grape'. Fantastic actor. Can't wait to see this.
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Godweiser
The eyes have it.
07:33 AM on 06/25/2011
Yeah, he's pretty versatile. Unfortunately, hollywood has always overvalued the beautiful people unless you are Meryl Streep or Al Pacino or Robert DeNiro.
04:19 PM on 06/24/2011
I remember my nephew going to school in a small TN town. Being bullied by of all people the coach. He humiliated him and had all the classmates participate as well.
When he complained to the school, he was further humiliated by the prinicpal and staff.
Needless to say he did not stay to graduate, but did continue on to College and survive.
But those small minded individuals that are supposed to be there for all students, still continue to teach and pick on those that do not fit the norm. They should be strung up by there privates.
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colred
04:48 PM on 06/24/2011
My post hasn't come up yet, but I mention that I never understood why the biggest bullies are the teachers. I was bullied by teachers as a student and I now get to witness it as a staff member. I asked in a bullying professional development class what we do when the bully is one of us. She said I wasn't the first to point that out.
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Godweiser
The eyes have it.
07:36 AM on 06/25/2011
When I went to HS in Texas, the tyrant of the school was the football coach. Frankly, I felt the principal needed to grow a pair, but he never did. Instead, the coach ran afoul of the theater teacher (who had been Special Forces in Vietnam) and got laterally demoted to a desk in an office somewhere for the duration of his contract (apparently coaches in Texas get contracts).

I have a low opinion of the breed that persists to this day, largely because coaches are the primary authority that push the Jockocracy, the guys that can stop it but don't.