Gay Marriage Victory Leads To Talk Of Cuomo Presidential Bid

  BETH FOUHY
First Posted: 06/28/11 09:38 AM ET Updated: 08/28/11 06:12 AM ET

NEW YORK (AP) — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's successful push to legalize gay marriage in his state has made him a national hero to liberal voters and has sparked talk of a potential presidential bid for Cuomo in 2016. But Cuomo paired his quest for same-sex marriage with efforts to slash state spending and curb the power of public employee unions, suggesting a blend of fiscal prudence and progressivism on social issues could be a new Democratic model in tough economic times.

"Andrew Cuomo is seen as a civil rights leader and has millions of volunteers and millions of donors across the country who would instantly support him if he decides to run," California-based gay rights leader Chad Griffin said. "He took a bold stand on a priority issue, made a commitment and delivered on it. Talk about motivating the base of a party."

Cuomo tried to tamp down talk about his presidential ambitions in a radio interview Monday, dismissing such talk as "silly" and disconnected from the importance of equal rights for gay couples.

"It's not about 2016. It's about the power of the passage of marriage equality," Cuomo said. "I'm not going to engage in this conversation or fuel this speculation." He didn't rule out a run in 2016 but said he had much more work to do as governor.

Cuomo had already racked up an impressive series of legislative accomplishments before last Friday's gay marriage vote, giving him robust approval ratings in New York even as governors elsewhere have struggled.

In a state notorious for its political dysfunction, Cuomo successfully pressed lawmakers to pass an on-time budget that cut spending to address a $10 billion deficit without raising taxes. He negotiated several concessions on salary and health care from some of the state's powerful public employee unions without setting them up as political targets or reducing their collective bargaining rights, as Republicans like New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker have done. And Cuomo worked with legislative leaders to craft a proposed overhaul of ethics enforcement after years of high-profile corruption cases eroded public confidence in state government. The bill didn't go as far as advocates wanted but was still viewed as a positive step.

Still, Cuomo's approach to the state's fiscal challenges has irked some Democratic activists.

His budget included historic reductions to public education, social service programs and health care. He allowed a temporary millionaire's tax to expire, prompting some critics to complain that he was protecting the state's wealthiest residents from the kind of belt-tightening he was asking of everyone else. He allowed tuition at public universities in New York to rise. And he pushed through a 2 percent cap on the state's notoriously high property taxes, which could lead to deep cuts for local school districts.

At times, Cuomo's approach appeared to repudiate the legacy of his father, three-term New York Gov. Mario Cuomo, whose championship of government programs for the poor made him an icon to liberal Democrats during the 1980s.

Mario Cuomo came close to running for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1992 but ultimately decided against a run, clearing the way for another Democratic president, Bill Clinton. Andrew Cuomo served as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development under Clinton and adopted much of Clinton's centrist approach to governing.

Clinton's record on gay rights was decidedly mixed. He eased out a ban on gays serving in the military by crafting the so-called Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy that allowed them to serve as long as they did not disclose their sexual orientation. Congress voted to overturn the policy late last year, clearing the way for gays to serve openly for the first time.

Clinton also signed the so-called Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 that defined marriage as a union of one man and one woman.

Cuomo pledged to legalize gay marriage in New York during his gubernatorial campaign last year. He stuck to that pledge even as he tackled the state's budget woes, sending a strong signal to Democratic base voters that he wouldn't back away from one of their signature issues.

Democratic strategist Peter Daou said Cuomo's success on gay marriage had persuaded many skeptical liberal activists to give him another look.

"He has earned some very solid points all the way to 2016, which will mitigate some of the criticism he's gotten from progressives about the way he's governed," Daou said., adding that Cuomo's efforts stood in stark contrast to President Barack Obama. Obama attended a fundraiser last week hosted by gay and lesbian donors in New York, but refused to endorse same sex marriage even as he expressed support for legal rights for gay couples.

"Progressives want leaders," Daou said.

Cuomo also demonstrated bipartisan skills that appear all but lost in Washington. He maneuvered the legislation through the Democratic-controlled Assembly and the GOP-controlled Senate, where four Republicans joined Democrats Friday night to ensure its passage.

Cuomo was hailed as a champion during New York's gay pride parade Sunday, where cheering supporters greeted him with signs and flowers.

"New York has sent a message to the nation," the governor said before the march. "If New York can do it, it's all right for everyone else in the country to do it."

Chris Lehane, a Democratic strategist who has worked for Cuomo, said Cuomo had already demonstrated significant political skill that would serve him well whether he stayed in New York or had ambitions for higher office.

"He walked in with historic challenges and under any objective analysis he got an A or an A plus," Lehane said. "He's coming from one of the biggest states in the country, and that gives him an enormous base. He's done this year right, and at the end of four or eight years, people will decide on the totality of what he's done."

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08:16 PM on 06/30/2011
When they put gay marriage to a popular vote, it's lost 31 times, says Maggie Gallagher. Never won. Romans 1.
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talkstocoyotes
12:33 PM on 07/06/2011
So far.
08:38 PM on 06/29/2011
Well, no.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is a hero for democracy, yes, but alas he is also the poster new child for the culture wars that the conservative Republicans insist on in order to cause a continued schism between all Americans. Obama bridged it long enough to get in elected, but the counter attack started even before he was sworn in. He inherited one of the worse presidential messes since James Buchanan passed the torch to Abe Lincoln, also of Illinois.

Did Andrew Coumo do a good thing, sure, both socially and economically. But the propaganda engine of the "Party of No" rarely sleeps and always twists any long term good in to a negative. I think it comes with the services they sell to the highest donors.
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08:05 PM on 06/29/2011
You might want to take a look at these:

“Untangling Barack Obama's audacious mumbo jumbo” by by John P. Mortimer at http://ebar.com/common/inc/article_print.php?sec=guest_op&article=73

“New York Marriage Equality Law Violates Federal Constitution” by Francoise Arouete at http://open.salon.com/blog/f_arouete/2011/06/26/new_york_marriage_equality_law_violates_federal_constitution

“Mr. President: Just say ‘No!’ to Gay Jim Crow” by Francoise Arouete at http://open.salon.com/blog/f_arouete/2011/06/24/mr_president_just_say_no_to_gay_jim_crow
04:19 AM on 06/30/2011
Jeeez....Johnbon....those are some ultra-liberal sites. Not much left leaning there...or is there?
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09:34 PM on 06/30/2011
Part I.
Thanks Johnbon for posting the links. I found them superb. Very much to the point. (No, I am not that Arouete - I wish I could write so well.) But I have practiced law for a good many years and he does state the legal dynamic perfectly. And I did see the Bay Area Reporter op. ed. years back - it’s been widely circulated. Frankly it is the best and most legally and factually accurate analysis of Obama’s platform I’ve ever seen - even more relevant today than it was back then.

The kind of pettifogging both writers refer to make me a bit ashamed of my profession - and they are spot-on about smarmy propagandists who shill as journalists. Obama’s platform is typical of why the public has sufficient reason to despise and distrust lawyers and regard us with contempt. I understand his politicking but I find it deeply disturbing when those who hold themselves out as “civil rights lawyers” (of all people!), those with the ‘affirmative action’ privilege of a superior education, betray it by pandering to prejudice as they fuel ignorance by misrepresenting the law. Obama knows perfectly well that marriage is no more a ‘states’ rights’ issue than is a “Negro” water fountain or Jim Crow railroad car. While I’m normally proud of my education and my colleagues this does make me a bit ashamed of my profession.
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09:36 PM on 06/30/2011
@ FKHFPT “Geez” we understand: having all that homophobic venom pent up inside a deeply troubled pea-shooter brain creates an urgency to sink your fangs into any obvious object of your petty animosities so as to sooth bitter contempt for human dignity. That’s the way is it with bullies. And what more prefect opportunity than to hide behind the anonymity of a cyber-bedsheet and troll the blogs while striking uncoiled from under a rock. That’s the way it is with cowards.

I’d say go off and play with your friends but, judging by your many very busy troll attacks here, one can seriously doubt you have any.
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09:33 PM on 06/30/2011
Part 2.
This is especially true in light of the fact that Loving v. Virginia reveals Obama’s position as the calling card of a charlatan. Too bad, because I really do like the guy. But as Loving alone proves, his Reaganesque ‘state’s rights’ position is not only a travesty but a disgrace on his own parents who suffered the same prejudice under the same dull facade of ‘state’s rights’ behind which was the pig-sty of Jim Crow. After all, they were actually deemed criminals in some states and their marriage was simply void as illegal in may states. Indeed, that California and Hawaii were amongst the few states in which they were physically safe. Thanks again. You have a new fan!
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rybalaw
07:01 PM on 06/29/2011
too early to talk about it but why the hell not
02:26 PM on 06/29/2011
This will ultimately cost him more than it will help him!
03:04 PM on 06/29/2011
Sorry Jeff. Your statement could not possibly be more mistaken.
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I just don't know what went wrong!
11:38 PM on 06/29/2011
Please substantiate your assertion.
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Fractal122635
02:17 PM on 06/29/2011
Gay marriage is most decidedly NOT a Progressive issue. It is a liberal and/or libertarian one. Progressives are only interested in marriage as it pertains to government control over it. When the federal government can regulate it, they are interested. That's why, when the court's issued their latest decree about the Defense of Marriage act THAT was when Obama gave up defending it.

Marriage is a state issue, so Progressives could care less.

Once again, the Progressive label has been wrongly attached to a liberal. Be liberal, be proud.
04:20 AM on 06/30/2011
It's still abnormal no matter how you define it.
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csnyfan13
E pluribus unum
12:57 PM on 06/30/2011
Gay marriage is "abnormal" only if someone has a closed mind.
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Janice James
01:04 PM on 06/29/2011
Please give us a break, this person cuomo, is a sleezy who used gays to try to gain votes and popularity. I still believe that most of the Normal American's do not believe in cuomos actions and or homosexuals "rights" ,,,, what rights? To change the good fabric of America to please one interest group,? I won't even dignify them by calling them "special" interests. Sick people do sick things, our society knows better, but for politicians who pervert our laws, corrupt our moral issues to bend voters their way, do not usually last long. NO CUOMO in our White House ever~~!
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jazz41
02:03 PM on 06/29/2011
Most Americans don't care if gays marry.... you are in the minority.
04:21 AM on 06/30/2011
And the rest of us who abhorr deviant lifestyles are in the silent majority.
03:50 PM on 06/29/2011
You just lost all credibility using the word ever, mental giant.
04:23 AM on 06/30/2011
RE: the word ever.......The rest of us got it.
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RKTesq
Commercial Litigator, San Francisco
12:14 PM on 06/29/2011
Cuomo could be the left-of-Obama candidate I've been looking for. Of course, so could Attila the Hun (be left of Obama).
04:29 AM on 06/30/2011
I doubt that...about Attila the Hun that is.
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joerf
11:48 AM on 06/29/2011
Works for me!
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11:20 AM on 06/29/2011
Andrew Cuomo has said that a 2016 presidential bid may not be out of the question. The only issue with that statement is time. There is five years between now and then and besides the time issue and the hope that during the next five years the economy rebounds to post recession/depression levels, unemployment falls to post economic recession levels, and every other indicator that will ease the people minds that we can TRUST another democrat as a leader falls to a post economic recession/depression level, then maybe, maybe he might have a chance.

It's also important to understand that the Gay Marriage strategy did not work for former New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine, who could have bought his way to the White House. So will the Gay Marriage/ equality for all campaign strategy transfer to a national theme for Gov. Andrew Cuomo?

I don't think so. We don't practice equality for all. Gay Rights are for a select group of people.
Other disenfranchised groups and those treated without equality will see that as a setback for their rights. Other groups, the religious right and honestly the liberal left, may be concerned that with a liberal democrat in office with a Gay Marriage track record than we run the risk of having a federal constitution amendment that changes the definition of marriage. And the people will not have it.

So will it work? I doubt it.
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RKTesq
Commercial Litigator, San Francisco
12:18 PM on 06/29/2011
I was going to challenge your logic, but I couldn't locate it.
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writerforhire
01:12 PM on 06/29/2011
That's funny!
04:30 AM on 06/30/2011
The rest of us got it!
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Fractal122635
02:22 PM on 06/29/2011
A constitution amendment that changes the definition of marriage? Have you READ the constitution? There is no definition of marriage except in the Defense of Marriage act which is not a part of the constitution. Additionally, are you aware of how difficult it is to amend the constitution? You honestly think 38 of the states would make that change?

Jon Corzine buy his way to the Presidency? He's rich but you do realize Emperor Obama will be spending 1 BILLION this time? Not to mention Corzine putting his own state in the dumper long before the recession hit the rest of the country.
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ignacio sanabria
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11:18 AM on 06/29/2011
If he has what it takes, then he is more than welcome to join the US presidential race whenever he is ready for.
11:14 AM on 06/29/2011
Love how pushing the agenda for ~1% of the population onto everyone else gives socialists their dream Presidential candidate. (groan)
11:48 AM on 06/29/2011
I hope you're not talking about Cuomo. This article itself gives some examples of things he's done that include letting a tax on the rich expire, capping property taxes, and slashing the budget.
09:53 AM on 07/01/2011
I love how people fall for media spin. The propety tax cap is nothing. Read it. The law allows school districts to exceed the 2 percent cap if 60 percent of those who vote approve. Local governments can exceed the cap with the approval of 60 percent of its governing body. 60 percent. So basically the local councils can just vote a higher increase anyway. The cap is nothing.
01:31 PM on 06/29/2011
It's interesting how you make up statistics and then act as if everyone other than those 1% of folks feels the same way. It's almost cute how young and stupid you are.
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11:08 AM on 06/29/2011
Cuomo does not match my beliefs of living by the gospel message and according to the Corporal & Spiritual Works of Mercy, and I could not see myself wanting to support him for President. I don't like the legacy left by President Bill Clinton, although we trusted him so much that we didn't pay enough attention to his bills while he was President, maybe because we were so relieved to be rid of Reagan & Bush. Also, I guess the constant Republican charges against him clouded our view of his policies. Now I pay all possible attention to any Administration's policies and their meanings for average persons. But of course, we weren't so actively aware of anything political during the Clinton years or previously, not having the internet sources of information that we have now. I didn't support Hillary Clinton due to President Clinton's leaning too much to Big Business, I'm displeased with President Obama's move toward business and Cuomo is too much in favor of Big Business.
11:03 AM on 06/29/2011
It is a miracle that he has not been excommunicated.
04:32 AM on 06/30/2011
Give it some time.
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09:59 AM on 06/29/2011
As a fiscal conservative I was completely opposed to Cuomo, but he has shown some good choices with financial cuts. But he lost me with the same sex marriage thing. I do not believe that is for the gov't to decide. The people should vote on this and if it then passes then it is supposed to be. And don't get me wrong I am not against the marriage thing, I just do not believe it should be left up to a handfull of people to decide such an important thing.
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nyjjc
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10:08 AM on 06/29/2011
New York does not have a statute to send proposed legislation directly to the voters via the ballot with the exception of amendments to the state constitution, so your way might be a bit difficult.

Besides - human rights should be decided by voters? So if the majority of voters wanted, we could go ahead and make all African-Americans slaves again, merely by casting a vote at the ballot box if such a ballot was presented?

People are represented by their state senator and assemblyperson. If they aren't happy with their voting record on legislation, they can always vote them out. That's how this democracy thingy works.
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11:05 AM on 06/29/2011
1] that is the problem with the legistation

2] Do you really think the citizens would vote for slavery again? If so, you really are closed minded. Times have changed. Liberals say it all the time. So if we are to accept such decisions should we not be able to trust our fellow American to make the choice? Or our we going to simply believe that all people are evil? Oh wait don't the liberals want to stop all war and have peace because we don't want to hate anymore and believe people are good?

People are represented by their state officials. To help with the budget and crime and infrastructure. When it comes to a social decision it should be left up to society. Isn't that the reason for having states? If you don't like the social atomsphere in one you moved to another. It's not the best idea but neither is forcing choices on people they do not want.

And no a Democracy is where everyone has a say. This whole "thingy" is how the Republic "thingy" works.
01:36 PM on 06/29/2011
Here's the problem. If you don't use examples that directly effect the AmericanItalian, he won't understand. Let me try - if the people of NY voted that you can't fist pump anymore, would that be fair to you? Imagine they outlawed lasagna and sitting on your mother's lap when you are a grown man - how would you survive? You don't want to leave these important matters up to other people who just don't understand.
11:06 AM on 06/29/2011
It does no good for the people to vote on anything. The people's will is over-ridden by a single nyet from an activist judge. Democracy is dead in America.
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11:20 AM on 06/29/2011
Sadly I agree. So let's bring Democracy back. Let the common person stand up and be heard like all these interest groups. We the people need to stop being silent and letting those with the loud voice prevail. The silent majority needs to not be silent any longer.