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Apple, Microsoft And Others Outbid Google To Win Coveted Nortel Patents

First Posted: 07/02/11 02:48 PM ET Updated: 09/01/11 06:12 AM ET

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By Nadia Damouni

NEW YORK (Reuters) - At the auction for Nortel Networks' wireless patents this week, Google's bids were mystifying, such as $1,902,160,540 and $2,614,972,128.

Math whizzes might recognize these numbers as Brun's constant and Meissel-Mertens constant, but it puzzled many of the people involved in the auction, according to three people with direct knowledge of the situation on Friday.

"Google was bidding with numbers that were not even numbers," one of the sources said.

"It became clear that they were bidding with the distance between the earth and the sun. One was the sum of a famous mathematical constant, and then when it got to $3 billion, they bid pi," the source said, adding the bid was $3.14159 billion.

"Either they were supremely confident or they were bored."

It was not clear what strategy Google was employing, whether it wanted to confuse rival bidders, intimidate them, or simply express the irreverence that is part and parcel of its corporate persona. Whatever its reasons, Google's shenanigans did not work.

A group of six companies -- Apple, Microsoft, RIM, EMC, Ericsson and Sony -- won the auction of 6,000 Nortel patents and patent applications with a $4.5 billion bid.

The final figure was three times the amount expected by some analysts -- a sign of the lengths to which Google's rivals were willing to go to get their hands on the treasure trove of wireless technology, and thwart the Internet powerhouse's mobile ambitions.

Google had been expected to emerge victorious after it set a $900 million stalking horse bid in April. But the auction that started on Monday and saw 20 rounds of bids over four long days ultimately hit a price that became too much even for Google, the sources said.

The Internet company might have had $36.7 billion in cash as of March 31, but it was only willing to go up to $4 billion for these patents, one person said.

FIVE BIDDERS

Five parties, including two consortiums, initially started bidding for the bankrupt Canadian telecoms company's patents -- Apple, Intel, Google, a consortium of Ericsson, RIM, Microsoft, Sony and EMC, and a group led by patent risk solutions provider RPX, the sources said.

Intel started the bidding around 9 am on Monday with a $1.5 billion bid, one source said.

The RPX-led consortium, which included Chinese firm Huawei, dropped out after the first round of the auction held at the offices of law firm Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP. The consortium remained on the sidelines looking to partner with someone else but never did, the source said.

"It did become clear to us very quickly that this was something that a bunch of big companies with humongous balance sheets had decided was strategic for them," RPX Chief Executive John Amster said. "Clearly at a price at this level it had to be strategic, and they could afford that."

The auction tested the limits of even the giants, and it took behind-the-scenes maneuvering and a series of alignments for a winner to emerge.

FAST AND FURIOUS

On Tuesday night, the Ericsson consortium stopped bidding, and started looking for a partner, which it found in Apple, the source said.

"When people drop out, you try to partner people," another source said. "It is pretty common in auctions because you are trying to get together people who have reached their individual limits and they still have interest in the assets."

By Wednesday, Intel dropped out as well -- a move that was followed by heated negotiations over the next 24 hours as the two remaining parties both tried to court the chip giant to join their side. Intel chose Google, one source said.

The field narrowed to two -- the Apple consortium called "Rockstar," and the Google bidding vehicle named "Ranger", the sources said.

"Then it was fast and furious $100 million allotments until they got to $3 billion, at which point Google asked for permission to bid more," a source said. "They bid through $4 billion and tapped out."

Google declined to comment for this article, but called the auction results "disappointing."

Lazard Ltd advised Nortel in the deal, while Jefferies advised its creditors. Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP was legal adviser to Nortel's creditors, while Cleary Gottlieb advised the company.

(Additional reporting by Tiffany Wu in New York and Alastair Sharp in Toronto; Writing by Paritosh Bansal, editing by Bernard Orr)
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By Nadia Damouni NEW YORK (Reuters) - At the auction for Nortel Networks' wireless patents this week, Google's bids were mystifying, such as $1,902,160,540 and $2,614,972,128. Math whizzes mig...
By Nadia Damouni NEW YORK (Reuters) - At the auction for Nortel Networks' wireless patents this week, Google's bids were mystifying, such as $1,902,160,540 and $2,614,972,128. Math whizzes mig...
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10:07 PM on 07/04/2011
Considering the company's bidding strategy on the Nortel patents, one has to wonder whether Google was ever very serious about its bid. If so, hopefully it learned its lesson: next time, instead of Pi, go with Feigenbaum's constant ($4,669,201,609).
http://www.generalpatent.com/media/videos/gpc-ceo-alex-poltorak-interviewed-about-nortel-patent-auction
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Kache
Toodlum, wake up, I hear a prowler downstairs
03:46 PM on 07/04/2011
Too cute by 3/4ths.
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womenforaction
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02:52 AM on 07/04/2011
A scorned member of LulzSec was attempting to expose the group which is why Lulzsec closed shop. Or did they? Could this scorned LulzSec member simply be apart of a huge prank?

Now supposedly a new group surfaces called AntiSec, a spin off from LulzSec. These are former members who have been disbanned.

Personally, I believe these supposed hacking wars are distractions.

While we are caught in this whole soap opera of internet security, could competitors of let's say, Sony and even Apple be behind this entire hacking frenzy? Who would have something to gain?

Google is top on my list. Let’s see..

Google made a bogus bid for “pi” on Norton Patents. Companies including both Apple and Sony teamed up to outbid Google. Others were Microsoft, Ericsson, RIM and EMC.

But who knows. This would be too obvious for Google to pull a sort of technology-mafia -style stunt to humiliate a competitor. But if a trace can’t be made, it’s possible.

Plus Google has been forced to swallow a bitter pill; its owners have been noted as out of touch and possibly not as innovative for such a fast paced young market.
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11:53 PM on 07/03/2011
I think their strategy was just to do "math jokes", as they are called, in order to make a boring auction SLIGHTLY more interesting. What Google found "disappointing" about the auction results was that the person it sent to make bids was just joking around instead of actually taking his job seriously and trying to win the auction, as well as the fact that nobody else at the auction found the math jokes funny.
03:48 AM on 07/04/2011
You know how much Pi in billions of dollars would mean to starving communities in impoverished nations? No but you're right... funny math joke...
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
04:05 PM on 07/04/2011
i am sure nortels creditors will find the money useful too.
08:51 PM on 07/03/2011
Sounds like Big Corporations are blowing money senselessly on worthless Patents from a Bankrupt Company, That Tech is probably a "Decade Outdated", my guess is that there will be trouble behind this!
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cutandrun
Inventing it every day
09:45 PM on 07/03/2011
Patents even unexercised can have tremendous value to companies that have a dynamic market share and need to legitimize a product through a development cycle. Some of them are likely worthless but may be update possibilities.
06:57 PM on 07/03/2011
Tons of Canadians had their investment portfolio's hit hard when Nortel started to falter, and tons of Canadians lost their jobs when they shuttered the doors.

Any relief for those individuals given the billions raised in this auction?
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11:59 PM on 07/03/2011
I doubt it. Those people are Canadians. And as the following South Park episode unfortunately demonstrates, the rest of the world does not apparently care about Canadians: http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s12e04-canada-on-strike In it, Canada goes on strike, and the rest of the world does absolutely nothing to help Canadians, except for a few young boys from Colorado who get upset when their favorite cartoon, Terence and Philip, is no longer showing new episodes because it is a Canadian show, and so the boys of South Park team up to help Canada when nobody else will. So, if you want some help, buddy, maybe you should explain your plight to 4 young boys in a small mountain town in Colorado.
05:56 PM on 07/03/2011
the current patent law and patent practice transformed itself from protecting innovation to the biggest obstacle to innovation and competition. Instead of solving technical problems and designing new solutions, the patent system feeds the PTO and the deep pocket lawyers who harass the real inventors into inaction. The system should be abandoned and redesigned to make sense.
05:18 PM on 07/03/2011
Did Google bid "i" for anything?
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04:56 PM on 07/03/2011
If you are a starting out selling your own products and you've developed something you find novel and useful how do you think you will do vs any of the big patent holders in court should they have something that loosely covers the area that you sell products into?

And of course a patent is enough to sue, regardless of whether these companies are making a product or even selling anything with it. So they may just use the patent as an excuse to litigate and reach a deal where you pay them millions to do what you would have done anyway, increasing the cost of products to your consumers and harming everyone except their own bottom line.

Or they may decide to just purchase your company if you seem to be subservient enough to them.

IP profits the few at the expense of the many using the force and coercion of government. Most patents are held by extremely large and powerful businesses, and not by the little guy who we imagine defending himself vs the evil corporations who would copy his product.

In fact, most devices that are difficult to copy aren't patented but left as trade secret, so the whole purpose of patents (which is supposedly to encourage innovators to release designs for the monopoly privilege they get in return) is swallowed by the unintended consequence which is that businesses file for those patents which they can use to bludgeon competitors with and keep anything else secret.
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04:55 PM on 07/03/2011
A perfect illustration of how patents destroy innovation and create cartels is present here. So a collection of 6 companies bands together and purchases a ton of patents in order to protect one another vs the evil competitors.

Why do we need this nonsense again? What proof is there that this encourages innovation instead of encouraging lawsuits and destroying innovation? How many times is an invention obvious to someone in the same industry with the same skill-set and understanding of the technology? How often are judges who preside over the cases well versed in the technology enough to know what's truly innovative?

And even supposing that it is innovative, how do you know what innovations don't occur that are modifications/enhancements to the original out of fear of reprisal from patent holders?
alunsulen
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02:12 PM on 07/03/2011
They bid irrational numbers when the prices became irrational.
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Mr Universe
Can't stop the signal
02:07 PM on 07/03/2011
Math nerds! Gotta love it.
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jsgaetano
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01:38 PM on 07/03/2011
Maybe their strategy was just to drive up the costs of the auction.
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12:23 PM on 07/03/2011
Much is being made of the Nortel Networks' wireless patents auction, with symbologists making much of Google's first bid $1,902,160,540 (Brun's constant), the second bid $2,614,972,128 (Meissel-Mertens constant), and the final bid of $3.14159 billion (Pi). Particularly as Google eventually lost out to a $4.5 billion bid from a consortium of Apple, Microsoft, RIM, EMC, Ericsson and Sony.

In this context, there's three or four kinds of patents in the package;
1. patents that have been superceded by better technology
2. patents that are active and earning
3. patents that - theoretically at least - have some future use and value
4. possibly also patents that never had and never will have any value.

Don't forget that many patents can be ignored and alternative routes taken.

In the fast moving world of communications, within 5 years, most will be type 1 or type 4. It is possible, but extremely unlikely, that there's even one key patent that will have any lasting value: with that single exceptional possibility, they grossly overpaid, and Google is (probably) the real winner.
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mmm611
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10:50 AM on 07/03/2011
If Nortel owned the patents and still went Bankrupt, how important can the patents be?
02:05 PM on 07/03/2011
Very important.
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02:50 PM on 07/03/2011
It takes a lot more than a good idea to make money.