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Twitter Bullying: Arguing On Political Opinion Now Counts?

First Posted: 07/06/11 12:30 PM ET Updated: 09/05/11 06:12 AM ET

Twitter Fight

When I get an article with the headline, "White House uses Twitter to bully critics," it sort of primes me to expect to see some examples of some hardcore online bullying. But in the case of White House Director of Progressive Media and Online Response Jesse Lee, as reported by The Daily Caller, this is about as good as it gets:

Of the 267 tweets written by Lee in just over a month, a stunning 40 of them have been directed at Kevin Eder, a prolific Twitter user with more than 83,000 tweets to his credit. That means 15 percent of Lee’s tweets — from an official White House account no less — have been with Eder.

One such example happened last week in a dispute over the budget.

Eder posted this tweet: “Hmm…it can’t be true that @SenateDems haven’t passed a budget in 790 days and the only plan Obama has is a speech. Right, @jesseclee44?”

To which Lee responded: “@keder @SenateDems Plan is keep negotiating w/ Rs & Ds, not default & trash economy, not voucherize Medicare to fund more tax cuts for rich.”

OH, SNAP! See how Lee gave a cogent and respectable response to someone on Twitter who specifically asked for one? That is just so over the line! Is this guy, Kevin Eder, seeing a counselor about all of this bullying? Well, apparently not:

“I like going back and forth with him,” Eder said of Lee. “But if you engage your fiercest critics on new media, you’re doing two things: On the one hand, you’re showing that you take their opinion seriously. That’s good for the non-influencer public to watch what’s happening. But on the other hand, the White House is legitimizing me. And quite literally, I’m a nobody.”

No need to cut any "It Gets Better" videos over this, I suppose.

I wish I could tell you how many Twitter followers you need to have, or how many tweets you need to send, before it's okay to have a back and forth with someone out there in the world that's seeking it and not objecting to the conversation. I don't know at what level it becomes appropriate-as-deemed-by-society. I suspect nobody has the answers to these questions, because I suspect nobody really cares about this nonsense.

The main thrust of the piece, to be honest, doesn't seem to be about "bullying" at all. Which is good, because it's bereft of examples, unless you think the White House using Twitter to make their case to be "bullying." What Lee is doing is not new -- former White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs and Weekly Standard writer Stephen Hayes famously went tweet-to-tweet with one another back in May of 2010, and it didn't exactly end in tears or recriminations. "I have enjoyed our tweets – shows that a good debate doesn't have to be a nasty debate," tweeted Hayes.

Lee is also not specifically tasked with spending all day long on Twitter, arguing with people. If he was, I'd hope that he could manage to produce more than "267 tweets in just over a month." (Though if any White House now or in the future wants to hire someone to write nine sentences a day on policy pushback, I would be willing to do that job.)

I suppose that the reason this story exists is because we're largely in undiscovered country where social media and politics are concerned. Tony Fratto sagely points out that taking to social media to mount constant debates, "you run the risk of tripping yourself up." (This won't happen if you follow my eight-point process of optimizing your Twitter experience.)

But beyond that, you'd really have to be born yesterday to find some of the Caller's concerns alarming. That the sort of work Lee does "used to be handled almost exclusively by the Democratic National Committee," is not something that strikes me as unusual, considering the words "almost exclusively" are there to provide for the fact that White House officials -- like Lee -- have, for as long as I can remember, gone on the teevee and written op-eds in newspapers. And someone really needs to sit down and explain to me the harm done by retweeting a link from Mother Jones's Kate Sheppard. (Is there any doubt that a conservative White House twitterer wouldn't highlight articles in The Weekly Standard or, say...The Daily Caller?)

The article does go on to cite three "high-profile" incidents that featured the White House mistreating reporters. Two of them strike me as risible -- the White House erring out of what can only be described as pettiness. The third -- Jay Carney complaining about Mark Halperin -- is something that I personally think the White House just should have ignored, because why make it look like the President is sweating Mark Halperin of all people? But there's three features to each incident that should go noted: none involved anything "online," none involved random ordinary citizens like the aforementioned Eder, and none, to the best of my knowledge, involved Lee. (So, maybe write those incidents with actual reporters up as a separate, better story? This is just an idea I had.)

"The Heritage Foundation was on the receiving end last week from both Lee and White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer, both of whom maintain official White House accounts on Twitter that are subject to archival under the Presidential Records Act," writes the article's author, Rob Bluey, who is also the director of the Center for Media and Public Policy at The Heritage Foundation. So, basically, this whole article is just a complicated way of asking Lee to please stop criticizing the Heritage Foundation on Twitter. What a world!

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When I get an article with the headline, "White House uses Twitter to bully critics," it sort of primes me to expect to see some examples of some hardcore online bullying. But in the case of White Hou...
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12:02 PM on 07/08/2011
The Daily Caller is clearly just another ideological propaganda outlet selling lies as fact.
That should be all that is necessary to say. This piece gives them more time and space than they deserve.
10:23 AM on 07/08/2011
It might not be bullying, but constantly talking about politics on Twitter is still lame.
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AZreb
equal-opportunity Independent heathen
08:57 AM on 07/07/2011
Heck - you can be censored on HP if you bring up any pesky little facts that do not fit the agenda of this website - even if there is no profanity, no name-calling, no outrageous statements. Tried twice to comment on one article yesterday and both times my comments were not published.
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BeerLover
Carpe Diem!
02:28 PM on 07/07/2011
That's what happens when righty "patriotic" media takes over a liberal newspaper.
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Mr Anonymous
Mumpsimus, I am not entertained!
09:20 PM on 07/07/2011
Or me, who is liberal, has a viewpoint about something that is not shared with my fellow liberlas.
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new 10 ole ole
02:42 PM on 07/07/2011
It is the librul playground--they set the agenda here.
07:15 PM on 07/07/2011
if you really feel that way, why don't you leave?
12:15 AM on 07/07/2011
sorry folks but I think both sides are guilty. All you have to do is look at sites where repubs and dems are arguing and sooner or later one side or the other resorts to calling others names. I'm all for letting people discuss there viewpoint but the nasty comments and name calling has no place in discussions. We see it on the political shows on TV, we see it on websites, And during the elections we see tons of ads that are full of half truths and comments takin out of text to make the other guy look bad. We sit and pass laws to stop bullying in school and yet both parties engage in attacking the other side and if someone is behind in the polls the attack ads increase. What kind of example are we setting for kids when we tell them stop bullying other kids yet we think its perfectly fine to call names and attack someone just because they dont agree with us? those who resort to name calling and bullying arent setting a very good example for the kids.
09:15 AM on 07/07/2011
If you're going to take the time to write a comment, you should probably read the article before doing so. Otherwise, you're not really adding to the discussion... You're just letting words fall out of your mouth.

(I know you didn't read the article because I did, and it's not about "name calling" or actual "bullying", therefore your comment makes no sense.)
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A Wright
Not a communist, just open-minded
05:04 AM on 07/08/2011
This is not the article you are looking for...
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teachone
Knowledge is Power
10:10 PM on 07/06/2011
If anyones tweet was bullying today it was John Boehner's remarks, which were not only ignorant but totally inapprorpriate and used to make the President look bad, "No class John only made himself look bad as usual!"
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eyelashviper
In wilderness is the preservation of the world
08:35 PM on 07/06/2011
Oh the horror, a tweeting President & White House Staff; next the czars will tweet, and the baggers will go bonkers, fuming, marching, and trying to figure out how to utilize oposable thumbs....
NYC619
Tri-corn hats cannot fit block heads
06:12 PM on 07/06/2011
Tea Ballers should not be whining about the Prez or his people using Twitter-then again a lot of them are delusional and think Palin is their Quitter-oops, Twitter Queen and they feel threatened that anyone can take that title away. After all, that is only one of few titles the Quit...Twitter Queen can claim, other than Queen of Sheepsba.
02:22 AM on 07/07/2011
She can also claim Queen of Petty Squabbles.
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Paul Conrad
04:05 PM on 07/06/2011
Republicans can dish it, but they can't take it.
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Dunkleberger Karl
Historian,Humanitarian,Hedonist.
03:28 PM on 07/06/2011
Nothing Like arsonists's complaining the fire deptartment got their Matches wet!
03:00 PM on 07/06/2011
The example that the author gives of reasonable give and take makes me shake my head.

Eder posted this tweet: “Hmm…it can’t be true that @SenateDems haven’t passed a budget in 790 days and the only plan Obama has is a speech. Right, @jesseclee44?”

To which Lee responded: “@keder @SenateDems Plan is keep negotiating w/ Rs & Ds, not default & trash economy, not voucherize Medicare to fund more tax cuts for rich.”



What does the response have to do with the first person's statement? Democrats had control of both houses of Congress and the White House until January of this year. Its like the person responding can only communicate in approved talking points even if those talking points don't really address the question. Even if those talking points are absurd as a stand alone. What tax cuts are being funded for the rich off of supposed savings in voucherizing Medicare? It is a dishonest way of describing Republican's proposal to save Medicare and a dishonest way of describing why those changes have to be made. The costs of Medicare and other so called entitlement programs are set to skyrocket. This is the best the administration can put forward?
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Mediorite
Flash in the Pan
03:28 PM on 07/06/2011
In 140 characters or less? Absolutely.
03:36 PM on 07/06/2011
Sounds like the equivalent of issues being discussed in 6 second soundbites. Yikes. Its like throwing away all the books and thinking you are educated by reading newspaper headelines. As if political discourse needed more false analogies and other crutches used to fit into such a small framework.
11:43 AM on 07/08/2011
You are correction. The response was just talking points.
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tnlcallen
02:48 PM on 07/06/2011
If you actually read the entire story, the larger context of it is in regards to the White House's agressive pushback on anything in the press that is negative. The guys job is to specifically pushback against negative press (including negative comments on twitter apparently). Kind of smacks of a propaganda ministry.
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Tommygun264
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03:20 PM on 07/06/2011
How does that stack up against the GOBP's "Ministry of Truth", FOX Noise?
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Gray Mouser
Former Republican
05:37 PM on 07/06/2011
Pushback against negative press is nothing like a propaganda ministry, especially when the negative press is, in many cases, distributed as news by propaganda arms of the political opponents.

It is self-defense, truth-telling, and propaganda squashing for the most part.

I would go to war over the rights to do that.
Tea for me
Lipton only:>) Proud Lib/Prog Dem
01:30 AM on 07/07/2011
Truth......and so ably done:>)

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new 10 ole ole
02:49 PM on 07/07/2011
I spent fours years in the military defending your right to spout your BS, and my right to call your BS BS.
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02:44 PM on 07/06/2011
This is result of the dumbing down of America (underfunding education, and teaching to tests). Earlier in the day a headline read, "Obama uses twitter as a bully pulpit." A perfectly accurate phrase coming from Teddy Roosevelt who noted that the white house is a "bully" (meaning excellent or grand) pulpit for expressing ones views,

Some undereducated blogger or so called journalist misunderstood the phrase "bully pulpit" and twisted it to mean bullying. Pathetic!!
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eyecon
Retired CEO & Quality-Mgmt Consultant
03:11 PM on 07/06/2011
Dvmb? We have some real smart Congress critters; DeMint, Bachmann, Steve King, Virginia Foxx (must be her por.n name), Rand Paul, Louie Gohmert (my personal favorite), Allen West and so on . . . you get the idea.
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Gray Mouser
Former Republican
05:38 PM on 07/06/2011
Well said! Bully!
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SF TKF
Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
02:33 PM on 07/06/2011
Responding with facts is also bullying in some circles.
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mimssandi
04:28 PM on 07/06/2011
Only if they are liberal facts.
09:24 AM on 07/07/2011
Is there any other kind?
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02:27 PM on 07/06/2011
What did people do with their thumbs before Twitter? What a huge bore, spending all day writing 140 character messages.
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tnlcallen
02:29 PM on 07/06/2011
I believe Twitter was the reason we developed opposable thumbs in the first place. If we could tweet with a tail then our species would still have those too.
02:37 PM on 07/06/2011
They twiddled them in order to strengthen them for thumb wars.
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nitwitsRus
my udder username is...
02:20 PM on 07/06/2011
& my new curse word ain't?