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Jaycee Dugard Describes 18 Years Of Captivity In First Interview

07/11/11 07:26 AM ET   AP

SAN FRANCISCO -- Talking through tears, a California woman held captive for nearly two decades told of the pain and determination as she gave birth to her captor's child in his backyard prison, while she was still just a young teenager.

"It was very painful," Jaycee Dugard told ABC News' Diane Sawyer in an interview on "Primetime" that aired Sunday night. "She came out and then I saw her. She was beautiful. I felt like I wasn't alone anymore. I had somebody who was mine."

The 31-year-old woman, usually clear and composed, grew emotional when she talked about seeing the first of two girls fathered by her kidnapper, Phillip Garrido.

When Sawyer asked how old she was at the time of the birth in the San Francisco Bay Area city of Antioch she said "14" with a small, incredulous laugh and a shake of her head.

She said she didn't know how she could protect the child, but said "I knew I could never let anything happen to her. I didn't know how I was going to do that, but I did."

Dugard talked to Sawyer on a couch and on a porch at her California home. The blond hair she had in now-familiar photographs from her childhood is now reddish-brown, and she wore a red sweater and a necklace with a pinecone charm on it, representing the last thing she touched before her 18-year captivity.

The interview came on the eve of Dugard's memoir about her time in captivity, "A Stolen Life," which will be released Tuesday.

Dugard told Sawyer there was "a switch" she had to shut off to emotionally survive her rape and imprisonment. Asked by Sawyer how she stayed sane, Dugard said: "I don't know. I can't imagine being beaten to death, and you can't imagine being kidnapped and raped. You just do what you have to do to survive."

She described walking to the school bus stop on the day of a fifth-grade field trip and being zapped with a stun gun on a South Lake Tahoe street at age 11.

She said she heard Garrido laughing and telling his wife Nancy Garrido "I can't believe we got away with it," calling the moment "the most horrible moment in your life, times 10."

Dugard said she tried to hold in her tears because of her cuffed hands.

"I tried not to cry because I couldn't wipe them away," she said, "and then they get itchy."

She recalled the soundproof door of the backyard studio that Garrido shut and locked each time he left her.

"I can still hear it, consciously, when I'm awake," Dugard said. "Some sounds and smells just don't leave you."

Dugard told Sawyer that in later years despite going out into public with her captors, she was just too scared to try to leave, especially for her daughters. The fear was fueled by what the Garridos told her about the world.

"What I knew was safe," she said. "The unknown out there was terrifying, especially when thinking about the girls."

Parole officers paid visits throughout the years to the home to check on Garrido and give him drug tests, but none reported any irregularities.

"I actually talked to one of the agents, and the agent proceeded to give Phillip his urine test and left," Dugard said. "He made me feel like he didn't really care."

Phillip Garrido, 60, a serial sex offender, was given the maximum possible sentence of 431 years to life in prison last month after pleading guilty to kidnapping and 13 sexual assault charges, including rape and committing lewd acts captured on video.

His plea was part of a deal with prosecutors that saw Nancy Garrido, 55, sentenced to 36 years to life after pleading guilty to kidnapping and rape.

Without going into many details, Dugard talked about the long, drug-fueled sex sessions Garrido would put her through, and said that to her great confusion he would cry afterward.

"He would tell me what an awful man he was," Dugard said. She said she would think that despite her own terrible pain, "I have to comfort him?"

Dugard told of her strange relationship with Nancy Garrido, who she said was "very jealous of me for some reason, like I wanted her husband to rape me, very jealous, and sick."

Dugard said she is not full of rage, that to be angry all the time would be to let Phillip Garrido win.

But her mother, Terry Probyn, who was interviewed by Sawyer alongside her daughter, said she was.

"I think I have enough hate in my heart for the both of us," Probyn said. "I hate that he took her life away, I hate that he stole her from me, he ripped out a piece of my heart, and he stole my baby."

She then looked to her daughter.

"He stole your childhood, he stole your adolescence, he stole your high school proms, and pictures and memories."

Dugard's reply: "But he didn't get all of me."

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Doug Clement
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02:06 AM on 08/10/2011
Jaycee really is amazing. To come out of all of this and still have hate in her heart..I dont think I would be able to do it, I would want them both dead.
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Doug Clement
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02:00 AM on 08/10/2011
If I wasnt so opposed to the death penalty, I would hang these two. Right after Warren Jeffs
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barbb0750
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08:42 PM on 07/27/2011
IF CALIFORNIA IS PAYING JAYCE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHY IS THE GRANDMOTHER ASKING FOR DONATIONS TO THE DUGARD FOUNDATIION? I BELIEVE SHE SHOULD BE GRANTED MONEY. THE LAW SHOULD HAVE FOUND HER LONG BEFORE THEY DID.
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Wonder Woman2
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05:43 PM on 07/16/2011
One thing we need to note - sexual predators can never be cured.
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Blackspeare
03:38 PM on 07/14/2011
It is interesting the way destiny and fate combine to change one's life either for the better or worse. On one hand we have an 8 year old boy who got lost in Brooklyn just 7 blocks from his home and then, in a chance encounter, asked the wrong person for directions. If a single red light had had delayed the boy the encounter would not have occurred and the boy would be alive today. The same with Jaycee Dugard, if she had continued on the expected course of her life she would probably be married with a brood of kids and struggling with life and family. Of course her encounter with her kidnapper was beyond horrendous, but she appears to have adjusted and now with $20 million from the state of California and a massive book sale she appears headed for the "good" life and young enough to enjoy it. Funny thing about fate!
05:04 PM on 07/17/2011
I'm in awe of the process of human emotions. Most of the time when we first hear of stories like these, we first become very supportive of the victim and then later focus on their financial success and turn a cold shoulder to them. When we first heard about Jaycee's recovery, everyone lined up with support for her. Now I see comments like yours (not saying it's bad) taking another look at her now that the initial jump on board the poor victim's band wagon is over and see her with $20 million dollars plus more to come, eyebrows are being raised. Even Oprah first judged Michael Jackson guilty of his charges, but after he passed away, she had a memorial show commemorating him and now we want to hang the accused doctor. Now it's Casey at the Bat. As long as the vigilates keep riling her, no telling how much money she could make and she could eventually become liked. The self righteous vigilantes will do their outrages, but eventually it becomes all about the money.
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Blackspeare
02:25 PM on 07/18/2011
Cammy...nice comment. The one thing common to all humans and an appropriate yardstick is "money." My original comment was about how fate and destiny can intervene in one's life to dramatically alter the course of one's life. All of us are the product of fate, but not so dramatic as seen through the eyes of others. Casey Dugard is a high exception. Elizabeth Smart is another and Casey Anthony may prove to be another. Money is a good measurement of an altered life, but then so is notoriety.
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Doug Clement
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02:01 AM on 08/10/2011
Her daughters...I feel so bad for them...What their mental state must be
Riven
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
11:33 PM on 07/13/2011
I hope I'm not repeating an earlier post here, but Room, by Emma Donoghue, is a recent novel that tells a story similar to Jaycee's. The narrator is Jack, a five-year-old boy. From him, we learn of his and Ma's daily life a locked shed in the rapist's backyard, their daring escape, and their struggle to adjust to the outside world. I highly recommend the novel for the way it balances humor and horror. Read alongside A Stolen Life, Room provides a unique perspective on human courage and the fierce love of a mother for her child.
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dbrett480
10:53 PM on 07/13/2011
There are two important lessons that need to be learned:

1) Parole/probation needs to be changed from a primarily social work agency to a primarily law enforcement agency.

2) The gut instinct of a police officer should count for a lot. If the two police officers didn't follow up on their hunch, Dugard would still be kidnapped.
02:26 PM on 07/13/2011
A poem for Jaycee.
http://www.eastcoastsheila.com/My-Little-Pinecone.html
06:51 PM on 07/12/2011
Torture comes in all forms. Mental torture is so much harder to conquer because it has no outward scars and sometimes it has no definable reason. Torture is simply torture. It does not need insanity but it always needs cruelty and sometimes it is inflicted by those who appear "normal" to others. My children and I suffered from mental and emotional torture and at the same time we looked like the ideal family to those who were on the outside looking in. I deal with that pain and regret daily but I also know that it is important to leave the past in the past. I am in awe of Jaycee and her strength. I hope that life gives her an extra helping of joy and happiness. She deserves it!
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ocenbrz
06:41 PM on 07/12/2011
Please teach your family and friends about stranger danger. There are good programs out their that even work well with preschoolers. I learned so much from these wise teachers. One that stood out was a little girl who got kidnapped because she wouldn't leave her backpack. She followed the kidnapper to try to get it back. So sad. We have to teach our children that respect is something you earn, not something everyone deserves. Just don't believe it will never happen to you. Better to raise socially aware children than those who know nothing about the world they are growing up in. Not to scare them but to empower them against predators like this one.
08:58 PM on 07/12/2011
Stranger danger isn't enough. It's not a good safety measure, and doesn't do enough to protect our children.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/NewsEventServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2034
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Wonder Woman2
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05:42 PM on 07/16/2011
Please this sounds like you are blaming the victim.
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ocenbrz
06:35 PM on 07/12/2011
Jaycee's story is a harsh reminder that we as a society need to work harder to get to know the people around us. We do not live in a perfect world. To ignore the ugly things is to allow innocents to suffer great harm. We wouldn't wish any of this on our families or friends. We have to be a part of making a difference. I'm so very happy she survived all of this and her abuser was rightly punished. Too many get away with horrible crimes against children. I wish Jaycee and her family a beautiful life. For her mother peace at last. I couldn't even imagine the horror she must have gone through every day her baby was missing. Peace to her Step-father too, Who I know suffered horribly because of this incident.
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talilah33
04:28 PM on 07/12/2011
I thought things like that only happen in Austria...or France. At least some people/comments would make you think so..
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writerforhire
03:26 PM on 07/12/2011
Predators who defy understanding - check out Hughes Hubbard & Reed, the Wall Street law firm or the local church who braided themselves into the law firm's action or the Hudson County Corruption machine who allegedly accepts cash for cover-ups.

Society wants predators to show up in our imagined physical state of what they should look like: Dingy, unkempt, unshaven, cult zealots, something that allows up to automatically singled them out as danger and stay away.

Predators don't always meet our mental expectations sometimes they show up with a facade of friendship, of a Good Samaritan or even as someone established in career or life pursuits.

Predators, however they show up are dangerous, and the more affluent the more they defy understanding, logic or reasoning.
05:43 PM on 07/12/2011
You're correct. They could be the one we least think of.
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ocenbrz
06:50 PM on 07/12/2011
They work very hard not to get caught. It's even worse now since they find others like them to help scheme with. This is why I have always supported the death penalty for violent offenders. Those who hunt, torture, rape, kill their own should not be allowed to live. Like a cancer they have a way of infecting others with their cruelty and perversions.

I'm disappointed though that Obama hasn't picked up on our need for more Parole Officers. Garrindo didn't change his mo very much. He just got a little more sophisticated. That alone should have flagged him as a very dangerous risk of confining a victim and his whole property should have been scoured periodically.

I'm really disappointed that we even have PO who can't think like a predator or have enough knowledge of criminals to noticed these type of people. If Garrindo was prosecuted right the first time, there never would have been a, "next time".
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writerforhire
06:45 PM on 07/12/2011
The system did fail her. Police and detectives often make judgment calls from a gut instinct that may lead them to wrong conclusions. The animal that held her captive is not different from the majority of predators who defy understanding and come from all walks of life.

Abuse is not "God's Will" it is not “His Plan” to allow violent sexual assaults or abuse of any kind. No matter what skewed thinking is preached or the ever popular "I heard from God and He said it was His will that she suffer" or “God’s doing a new thing and it includes sexual perversion." Those are sick rationals from sick minds.

Perverts come from all walks of life and socioeconomic backgrounds. When we, as law enforcement often fails, as citizen see abuse or feel unnerved by a situation it is up to us to speak up. Better safe than sorry.

She has an impressive survival story. It is beyond comprehension the horrifying abuse that she has endured.
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Doug Clement
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02:05 AM on 08/10/2011
I find the God argument offensive. Where was this god of yours while she was being sexually abused at 14?
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writerforhire
12:07 PM on 08/10/2011
In reply to Doug Clement's comment "I find the God argument offensive. Where was this god of yours while she was being sexually abused at 14?"

What God condoning argument are you referencing? In no way do I believe that God condones Sexual assault. It's is not God's Will or any other rationalization under the Christian Crazy Umbrella (aka Warren Jeffs and any preacher who uses the term "Spiritual" and adds a parent, a crime, acquisition or any other mental manipulation tactic) for any person, women, men, children to suffer in abusive relationships.

Parents, monsters, pedophiles, preachers, lawyers, doctors, Indian Chiefs, who use their religion to condone depravity must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

As America becomes, to a greater degree, a country of émigrés it is imperative for those who bring their tribal customs, rituals, national laws, into our country to understand and be warned if those customs include condoning, in any way, the abuse of children or adults they will be prosecuted.
02:38 PM on 07/12/2011
Where is the father of Jaycee? Was he a part of her life then, or now?
04:25 PM on 07/12/2011
No, she had a stepfather at the time, and when her kidnapping was first reported, her biological father was considered (briefly) to be a suspect.
02:26 PM on 07/12/2011
Next time one of us starts whining and complaining about some silly, insignificant want I think remembering Jaycee is good way to put ourselves back in check.
That woman is courage personified.