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Debt Ceiling Debate: Obama's Suggestion For Pollsters

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First Posted: 07/11/11 07:55 PM ET Updated: 09/10/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- In the midst of a press conference on the ongoing negotiations over raising the debt ceiling, President Obama had a suggestion for pollsters. Come up with a poll question explaining that a government default will spur "another recession," the president said, and a majority will come to support his position on the issue.

Recent survey data does support much of Obama's argument. A majority of Americans are worried about what might happen if the government defaults on its obligations. The challenge for Obama is that Americans are even more worried about the potential for greater spending and increasing debt.

The president's comments followed a question citing a June CBS News poll that found just 24 percent favored raising the debt limit to avoid economic problems, while 69 percent opposed raising the limit. "Isn't the problem," asked CBS News reporter Chip Reid, "that you and others have failed to convince the American people that we have a crisis here?"

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Obama first argued that "the public at large" has been paying little attention "to the ins and outs of how a Treasury auction goes." Instead, the president said, "They're worrying about their family, they're worrying about their jobs, they're worrying about their neighborhood. They've got a lot of other things on their plate."

Recent polls support the president on that point. A Pew Research Center survey conducted this past week found that only 18 percent of Americans say they understand very well "what would happen if the government does not raise the federal debt limit." Another 37 percent say they understand it fairly well. That leaves nearly half of Americans who say they don't understand the issue, either not too well (27 percent) or not at all well (14 percent), or who say they are unsure (4 percent).

Obama next turned to the way question phrasing might influence poll results. "[I]f you said to the American people, 'Is it a good idea for the United States not to pay its bills and potentially create another recession that could throw millions of more people out of work?' I feel pretty confident I can get a majority on my side on that one."

While no polls have asked that question exactly, the one that comes closest supports the president's position. The same newly released Pew Research survey finds that 75 percent of Americans say they are very or somewhat concerned that "not raising the debt limit would force the government into default and hurt the nation's economy." And those concerns have increased from 63 percent of people who were very concerned or somewhat concerned in May.

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The problem with the president's argument is that a slightly larger number (78 percent) continue to be very or somewhat concerned that "raising the debt limit would lead to higher government spending and make the national debt bigger."

When pressed, more Americans are now divided, with slightly more (47 percent) saying they are more concerned about the consequences of raising the debt limit than about the impact of not raising the debt limit (42 percent). However, worry about not raising the limit has jumped by seven percentage points (from 35 to 42 percent) since May.

The underlying conflict of opinion -- the roughly one quarter of Americans who express concern about both raising the debt ceiling and not raising it -- is what makes polling on this question volatile and difficult to interpret.

So in this case, Obama is right that results depend heavily on "how you phrase the question." Consider the following table, which shows results for the CBS News poll cited in the press conference as well as five more polls (created since March) that asked Americans in a variety of ways whether they support or oppose raising the debt limit.

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Of course the most striking difference is that the most recent result in the table -- from the AP/GfK survey fielded three weeks ago -- yields the largest number (38 percent) expressing support for raising the federal debt limit. Combined with the new Pew Research poll, we have evidence that support for raising the debt limit has been on the rise in recent weeks.

But note the impact of question wording and format for the results from March through early June. While none of the questions shows a majority willing to support raising the debt limit, the responses vary considerably. More than a third of Americans said they "don't know enough to say" in the Gallup and NBC/Wall Street Journal polls, both of which offer that explicit response. As a result, opposition to raising the debt limit in the polls varies from 41 to 69 percent.

Two of the questions convey some of the language that Obama suggested. If the government does not raise the debt limit, the CNN question explains, it "will not have enough money to pay all of its bills." The CBS News question adds that "the country could default on its loans, causing severe problems for the U.S. economy." But none refers to a "second recession" or the prospect of millions more out of work, and each also includes a counter argument. Obama may be right that more vivid language would produce more support for his position on a poll, but the real question is what happens in reality, when counter arguments are unavoidable.

Finally, none of these questions poses the tradeoff now central to the debt negotiations: the prospect of a deal that combines an increase in the debt limit with significant cuts in government spending and increases in revenue. The recent AP/GfK survey posed a three-way choice that comes close. It finds three out of four Americans (34 percent) opting either for increasing the debt ceiling "to avoid a default on federal debt, and discuss spending cuts and deficit reduction separately" or only increasing the debt ceiling if Congress "makes significant spending cuts at the same time, even if that means there will be considerable reductions in government services and programs" (43 percent). Only 18 percent chose the third option, that "Congress should NOT increase the debt ceiling under any circumstances, even if that means the U.S. defaults on its debt."

So the president is right that a majority of Americans share his concern about the potential consequences of a government default, and hypothetically, a more vivid, one-sided poll question about the consequences of default could probably push those numbers higher. The challenge is whether he can sell both Americans and congressional Republicans on the combination of spending cuts and tax increases he is proposing, and whether a majority of Americans will come to see a potential default as more frightening than the consequences of rising debt.

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WASHINGTON -- In the midst of a press conference on the ongoing negotiations over raising the debt ceiling, President Obama had a suggestion for pollsters. Come up with a poll question explaining that...
WASHINGTON -- In the midst of a press conference on the ongoing negotiations over raising the debt ceiling, President Obama had a suggestion for pollsters. Come up with a poll question explaining that...
 
 
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04:02 PM on 07/21/2011
There are a lot of dumbbbb people in this country.
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04:57 PM on 07/16/2011
im not worried abotu spending so stop say that..only the foolish are worried abt spending....we need stimulus spending to get out fo this dam recession............the private sector is hoardign money......without the public sector spending......this thing is gonna grind on forever
10:30 AM on 07/16/2011
What Obama is not getting is that the majority of Americans have no confidence in our government's ability to do anything to help us, all they do is harm us so they can help the bankers. That is what is behind a lot of of people saying they would just as soon see it shut down. Plus we are all tired of the scare tactics Washington uses against us. They are using shock tactics in an effort to get our agreement to policies that will harm us so they can say they are working for us, when in fact they are not.
09:17 PM on 07/15/2011
Heh, in my country where I grew up, the government doesn't publicize budget talks like these, they just do the budget and then pocket our tax money, spending it on trips abroad, a fleet of cars and mansions. Consequently we have learned to survive on our own and we don't give a damn about our government. But president Obama gives a damn about each and every one of you, including the negative posters and newscasters who're kicking him to a pulp right now. His decisions don't seem to be pleasant as of the moment, but nothing is easy when you're trying to hold so great and so vast a country together. He's trying to do right by everyone cuz he cares. If he didn't, decisions are so much easier to come by. I wish we had government people who cared as much.
05:54 PM on 07/15/2011
I just want to say to Cam2001 that I agree with you about freedom of religion. It is not freedom from religion. But the founders did found this nation on Judeo Christian beliefs. That doesn't mean we are an unchristian country as your remark indicated. And hopefully it will stay that way for a very long time. I do not call people names for their religion and beliefs. But it seems it's OK to be anything but Christian. Why do you care
what my belief system is? I'm not forcing it on you but you seem to want to force your beliefs on me as a Christian. I'm not shouting from the roof tops that my way is the only way and neither are the majority of Christians. I believe you are afraid because you do not understand.Igornance is not bliss.
03:18 PM on 07/15/2011
Most Americans, including unfortunately the majority posting here, are too uninformed to understand the implications of US default on the debt. This will further explode the deficit, because interest rates will have to be raised, cost billions more dollars to fix because it will have to be fixed eventually, and in the meantime the stock market will plunge and unemployment will rise into double digits. Obama's suggestion to put those kinds of figures into a poll question and see what kind of response you get is perfectly reasonable.
01:59 PM on 07/15/2011
Jing Wan:
Nineth suggestion:
Find ways to lower cost of living in this country from all aspects. Build more apartments, less houses. Bulid apartments near job locations, reduce the transportation cost.
Also force people to work. Lower the funding for umemployed people. Provide more short term practical skills oriented training program that are affordable to poor people. Help trained workers/technicians to find a job.
In the long run, only when people consume less and work more, you can cut the deficit and end the bad dreams ultimately.
01:59 PM on 07/15/2011
Jing Wan:
Eighth suggestion:
Government should encourage esteemed school to open internet classes, online degrees. Reduce the cost of education and increase the number of students. Let the pace fit in all possible targeted students. The lower the cost of education, the more people will be educated.
Only to keep the result satisfactory, smart softwares should be made to ensure exams be held fairly. With one people to answer questions on telephone and through email, you can educate several hundred student through online softwares/video at the same time.
01:59 PM on 07/15/2011
Jing Wan:
Seventh suggestion:
Government provide help to people who want to start business abroad in other countries. Provide them detailed information and instruction for tricks, pitfalls, rules on how to set up new business broad to compete with the native companies. Use local resources and cheap labor to accumulate fortune for America.
01:58 PM on 07/15/2011
Jing Wan:
Sixth suggestion:
Government can give tax reduction and other favorable terms to encourage manufacturing industry to bloom in the nation to hire more less educated people, to free some people from unemployment.
01:58 PM on 07/15/2011
Jing Wan:
Fifty suggestion:
Should encourage foreign companies to come into U.S. to set up businesses here to generate more local jobs.
01:58 PM on 07/15/2011
Jing Wan:
Fourth suggestion:
Maximize the production ability by allowing more people to work. There are many peopel who can leagally stay in U.S. but can't work leagally. They are eating and consuming here but they can't work. For example, me. I hold H4 visa. So I live here legally. But I can't work. What's the benifit I can bring to the nation wothout working?
Why not permit such people to have the right to work on a temporary base?
Fortune is not brought by consumption.
Fortune is accumulated by production in the end.
01:58 PM on 07/15/2011
Jing Wan:
Third suggestion:
To reduce immediate fincial pressure, tax more heavily on the richest part of the nation. They won't starve from an increased tax. The middle class already in big pressure. They work hard, but face losing jobs any time. Further increased tax on them will only endanger their survial ability. The richese people will use their money to influence the votes to vote against taxing on them. So their voice is higher than the middle class. But who is working for the nation? Who are the major force of the nation? Who will be the hope of the nation?
01:57 PM on 07/15/2011
Jing Wan:
Second suggestion:
To improve the quality of the native labor force, no longer rely heavily on importing techincal people from abroad, we can first import the math exam questions from countries like Russia, China or India. Force elementary, middle and high school to set a high standard(using rigirous math exams) for their graduates for math. To prepare Americans for technical jobs later in their career. If our kids have better math skills, they can compete better in job market and eventually help reduce deficit.
01:57 PM on 07/15/2011
Jing Wan:
First suggestion:
To reduce medical bills significantly, we can train doctors and nurses from young teenagers as those jobs don't require advanced math or programming, no need to wait till they grow older and slower at memorizing things. With decent reading skills and good memories, children can pick up the job quicker than adults and the resulted reduction of the training cost will lower the medical bills significantly.