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82nd Airborne Paratroopers Unhappy With Iraq, Afghanistan Troop Withdrawals

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First Posted: 07/11/11 01:46 PM ET Updated: 09/10/11 06:12 AM ET

FORT BRAGG, N.C. -- Among the paratroopers of the 82nd Airborne's 1st Brigade Combat Team, there's a sinking feeling the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will fade away. Instead of an exciting and challenging combat tour, they'll be relegated to the dread "garrison life" here at Fort Bragg.

For those who enlisted after 9/11, combat deployments have been an expected part of the deal. The constant cycle of deployments of the past decade has no doubt been tough on families, and the strain is exacting a cost on the physical and mental fitness of those in uniform; certainly there are some who are sick of it.

But others are eager to get in at least one last deployment before the fighting ends, dreading a life confined to their home base, with its 9-to-5 routine and endless training for a war that never comes. They signed up to go to war. They are good at it, especially the counterinsurgency campaign in Afghanistan which demands courage, physical stamina, ingenuity and individual initiative.

"I'm afraid I'm not going to get the chance to go again," said Spec. Brenton Parish, a 21-year-old paratrooper from Fond du Lac, Wis. "I like doing my job, and I can only do that when I'm deployed," he told The Huffington Post.

In few other endeavors is a 21-year-old given responsibility for the lives of a dozen of his or her colleagues, or charged with negotiating a peace deal with village elders and tribesmen.

Increasingly over the past decade, Americans in uniform have come to think of themselves as professionals, and war is their profession.

"We're itching to go back -- our boys are out there," said Sgt. Brandon Mendes, 27, from St. Louis, a communications specialist. "As the most free nation in the world, there's a responsibility that goes with that. Everybody sees a purpose to it; we're out there doing something."

For these soldiers, life at war is simpler, more exciting and more fulfilling than life at home at Fort Bragg or Camp Lejeune. Out there, "down-range" in the military vernacular, young sergeants and lieutenants hold power. Often they are leading their men on dangerous missions that carry important strategic weight: convincing village elders to side with the Afghan government and not with the Taliban. It is meaningful work laced with adrenalin -- and no worries about car payments or babysitters.

Not to be overlooked: pay is tax-free in a war zone, and there's an extra $550 a month paid for hazardous duty.

In contrast, life at home -- in garrision -- is routine, and there's enough brass around that more strict attention is paid to carefully mowed lawns, spotless uniforms, shined shoes and meticulous barbering.

"I want to get in at least one more deployment, to Afghanistan," said Capt. Tom Cieslak, a staff officer with the 1st Brigade. "If we're going back to garrison life, to pressed and starched uniforms and all that? After my seven years of war, I don't think I could do that."

Deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan are slowing dramatically. Of the 46,000 troops left in Iraq, many units already shipping home and not being replaced. Two battalions are coming back from Afghanistan this summer, followed by a third battalion this fall. They will not be replaced.

"Yeah, it seems to be toning down," Spec. Nicholas Weeks, a 21-year-old paratrooper from Payette, Idaho, said recently. "I definitely want to go again. That's why I joined. I like deployments a lot more than being in garrison; on deployment we're actually doing our job."

Until recently, the deployment cycle was rigid and predictable: as one brigade was preparing to leave the war zone, another was arriving to take its place with a third training to go. Deployments were planned years in advance; after arriving home, commanders had barely a year to receive and train new soldiers and Marines, restock equipment and retrain before they were off on another deployment.

But that momentum has been broken. There are some brigades that aren't even on the future deployment schedule.

Not only is the deployment cycle slowing down, but both the Army and Marine Corps are due to shed the extra manpower they were allotted at the height of the fighting in Iraq -- about 22,000 troops -- with potential future cuts reaching as much as 40,000 personnel.

When announcing the phased withdrawal of 33,000 troops from Afghanistan last month, President Obama declared: "The tide of war is receding."

"Guys are starting to smell it," said Army Col. Mark Stock, who commands the 1st Brigade Combat Team. He said soldiers are already frantically conniving and trading to get into a brigade that's scheduled to deploy.

There are some who are so accustomed to life in combat that they simply are uncomfortable back home, even living on a military base. It's not unknown for combat veterans to volunteer for back-to-back deployments.

"I feel safer over there than here," said a sergeant who has deployed numerous times in Iraq and Afghanistan and is no longer on active duty. "I know what the situation is, I trust the guys over there. I don't trust hardly anybody here."

Garrison life can be more dangerous than living in Afghanistan. In a major study released last year, the Army reported that a small but growing number of soldiers who perform credibly in combat turn to high-risk behavior at home, including drug abuse, drunk driving, motorcycle street-racing, petty crime and domestic violence.

The study, commissioned by Gen. Peter Chiarelli, assistant chief of staff, estimated that 40,000 soldiers are using drugs illicitly, and misdemeanor offenses are rising by 5,000 cases a year. Among the growing number of Army suicides -- which soared past the civilian rate and reached a record 300 cases last year -- almost half had never deployed from garrison.

In addition to the suicides, the Army study noted there were 107 fatal accidents among its active-duty soldiers and 50 murders in 2009, part of an ugly toll of 345 active-duty, non-combat deaths -- about 100 more than were killed in combat that year.

According to the report's authors, platoon sergeants and company commanders who gave their soldiers a great deal of freedom to maneuver in Afghanistan were failing to provide close supervision once their soldiers returned to the temptations of garrison life.

"Simply stated, we are often more dangerous to ourselves than the enemy," the study concluded.

Still, not all soldiers are unhappy to see the wars winding down.

Capt. Bryan Morgan, 30, an airborne company commander from Indianola, Wash., fought a hard tour in Ramadi, in western Iraq, in 2004, and recently went back for a second year as an adviser to the Iraqi security forces.

"I'm glad to see the end of it," he said recently. "I'm glad that we accomplished something. I lost some friends over there, and Iraq has improved, the standard of living is better, and the police I worked with are more honest. That's the end state everybody's worked for."

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FORT BRAGG, N.C. -- Among the paratroopers of the 82nd Airborne's 1st Brigade Combat Team, there's a sinking feeling the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will fade away. Instead of an exciting and challen...
FORT BRAGG, N.C. -- Among the paratroopers of the 82nd Airborne's 1st Brigade Combat Team, there's a sinking feeling the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will fade away. Instead of an exciting and challen...
 
 
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05:14 PM on 08/26/2011
They want to finish what they were sent to do. For all of their buddies they saw die, for all the holidays, birthdays and anniversaries they missed. Yes they are trained to kill but they are also trained in many other things. As wife to a paratrooper he doesn't go to kill. He goes for the guy next to him, the guys under him that he is responsible for, to try and finish wars that have killed his friends and left others forever changed.

Does he love going? No. We have three kids and it kills him to leave them and miss a year of their lives. Over and over. But he does it for honor and duty. While he is boots on the ground he is all business whatever that may require of him.
03:00 AM on 07/18/2011
What I really feel the problem is here with this war in all is not pointing the finger because someone couldn't even establish a reason for flying an airplane into a building that has nothing to do with where they live. As that war criminal should have seen, here is a laptop, use word of mouth for a problem there is and there was no reason to bother another country let alone just speak with someone higher in power like a police officer if you have a problem, everyone is real civilized, they just can't do anything about something never heard of.
11:49 PM on 07/16/2011
If adrenaline is what you crave I suggest you go pick up some extreme sport...
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canpete
07:19 PM on 07/14/2011
there is something wrong here, the troops want to go to afghanistan, must be the american war mentality at work here.........
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leftLibertarian
Don't vote for Obama or Romney
08:29 AM on 07/14/2011
According to a quote in the article, because America "is the most free nation in the world, there's a responsibility that goes with that. Everybody sees a purpose to it; we're out there doing something."

but is the US the 'most free in the world' and how do you measure that? So I searched for 'most free nation'

http://www.heritage.org/index/

And according to this list (which I do not endorse) Honk Kong is the most 'free' so perhaps Hong Kong should be the world's police for a change.
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igotbanned6
What's right is right
12:00 PM on 07/12/2011
Funny how Liberals claim they support the troops and always want to bring them home....and yet the troops themselves want to stay and finish the job.

The article is deceiving and disrespectful of our military. They dont want to just go fight....they want to fight when there IS a fight to be had. They know there are still bad guys out there, and they need to finish the job.

This is why Liberals just dont understand our military and never have supported them.
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BacSi
Celer, Silens, Mortalis
12:27 PM on 07/12/2011
Have you served? In combat? As a grunt? This liberal has.

Their wanting to stay has nothing to do with bad guys. It has to do with the hold combat can have on a person.

If you had btdt this is something you would understand.

I hate chicken hawks. Please tell me you are not one of those
09:53 PM on 07/12/2011
Get over your self, you coffee shop patriot.
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pepper1311
POGS are dirt
11:46 AM on 07/12/2011
Officers look at war as a career move not as a mission for there country, It has been that way since Korea. In WW2 a guy like Patton would have returned a Lt.Col. The rank he went to war with. Ike knew what to do.
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BacSi
Celer, Silens, Mortalis
01:34 PM on 07/12/2011
You know a lot of Officers? Been to war with them? Raised a few?

Your blanket statement about all officers----is a joke.
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kittycarumba
What we think we become
03:46 PM on 07/12/2011
No? But I have. He is absolutely right. Then of course you have the my buddies are still there syndrome, and last but not least the stop loss program or as we used to call it "I ETS's and Can't Get Out"!
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pepper1311
POGS are dirt
04:09 PM on 07/12/2011
VN 12/66-7/69 grunt I-Corp, lost right kidney, left forearm. And you know raised some POG officers did you. Most are career and could give a damm about anyone except themselves.
10:40 AM on 07/12/2011
You can always move there!
09:55 AM on 07/12/2011
How does the end of the Government Troops involvement affect the private armies that are deployed on our behalf. Are we trading our own troops for privatized troops? My hope is that everyone is coming home and the drain on our economy is stopped on all levels.
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igotbanned6
What's right is right
12:03 PM on 07/12/2011
There are no private armies. Stop the BS rhetoric.

The contractors are hired by the government to provide security for diplomats and ambassadors.... a job not suited for the regulars of our military.

99% of the contractors are ex-military special forces....veterans.

And this war isnt a drain on our economy....entitlement and pork spending is the drain on the economy.
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BacSi
Celer, Silens, Mortalis
01:38 PM on 07/12/2011
We have spent trillions of dollars on Iraq and AStan. With little end in sight. And money that most see as totally wasted with little positive return.

Yet you complain about medicare and social security.

There are terriorists within our own country. Trying to take it back to the stone age. One tax break for the super rich after another tax break for the super rich.

Destroy the domestic terriorists that want to take us down.

Vote Democratic.
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kittycarumba
What we think we become
03:49 PM on 07/12/2011
how about all those billions lost and stolen? The wars aren't even in the budget. Are you for real?
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BacSi
Celer, Silens, Mortalis
09:36 AM on 07/12/2011
http://www.mishalov.com/Reasoner.html

July 12, 1965

The Reasoner Patrol

RIP-----Never Forgotten
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BacSi
Celer, Silens, Mortalis
10:26 AM on 07/12/2011
http://books.google.com/books?id=29kf_P21Sq0C&pg=PT23&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

For Freddie, Bill, Tom and the rest
07:29 AM on 07/12/2011
The 82nd is a top tier combat division. Paratroopers, men who jump out of planes and choppers have a different outlook than say, a soldier in logistics or contracting.
I am a defense contractor here in Afghanistan with the 10th Mountain.
At a large Forward Operating Base (FOB) the morale suffers at times. The base is mostly made up of rear epsilon folks and Guardsman that perform mission critical roles, but rarely leave the wire. When you are stuck on the base, it becomes more of a prison. We do get mortared, but even that is way down, nothing like last summer.
I do travel to Combat Outposts (COPs). These are the young fighting men and generally have a better attitude. No Sergeant Majors, Colonels or female soldiers. You can forget to shave, use raw language, or take a leak where you please.
These troops go into these villages, run the Taliban out and see the life come back. Hajimarts reopen, schools once full of ammunition are now full of children, and the women leave their homes for pap smears at the UN clinic. Allot of power for a 21 year old.
Also economy/ social media helps with retention. They have constant contact with buddies that have discharged out, playing video games at their Mom’s, application at Home Depot still pending.
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kittycarumba
What we think we become
08:45 AM on 07/12/2011
Odd that the women of Afghanistan now have the freedom to get pap smears etc., from a UN medical facility. Yet the freedom to obtain the same services here in our country are beginning to be assaulted by the gop/bggr/christian/just insane.

I know this is about the 82d but that statement just screams hypocrisy of the two sides. No harm to you rhino.
09:03 AM on 07/12/2011
I donot have contact with Afghan women. I see them from chopper walking around mudbrick villages in light blue ninja suits.
I have spoke to some of the troops about the local women and they feel sorry for them. This sympathy is coming from battle harden, young sexist guys, so it should say something.
To compare these women's plight to modern, western women plight. I do not know
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igotbanned6
What's right is right
12:05 PM on 07/12/2011
Thats BS. No one is preventing anyone from getting a pap smear.

Stop trying to link abortion with a pap smear. The women of Afghanistan are not getting abortions.
12:10 PM on 07/13/2011
Exactly, these are thrill seekers Type A that seek out challenging positions. Previous unit sat in the FOB and let the enemy lob mortars on the base. 82nd took over and went after the enemy and didn't wait for them to toss bombs at them.

Imagine going to college to be a doctor or surgeon or dentist THEN never treating a patient. This is what they train for and they WANT to be challenged. 82nd soldier WANTS to test himself/herself and find out how they react in a combat situation. Jumping from planes is a TEST, IF the chute fails you have to react, you don't have a the time left before you hit the ground like using a free fall chute. You have a second or two to react to save your life, this is how it can be in combat.
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Tim Kunk
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06:34 AM on 07/12/2011
A lot of US money went for weapons that are advanced enough to cause less “collateral damage”, think of any other country that can say that! When you think were blood thirsty!
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kittycarumba
What we think we become
09:00 AM on 07/12/2011
really then why all the civilian deaths in iraq??
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igotbanned6
What's right is right
12:05 PM on 07/12/2011
Why? Because the suicide bombers dont care who they blow up.

Educate yourself.
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Tim Kunk
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06:04 AM on 07/12/2011
Question is there a possibility the low US body count: put in Comparison to past wars: has the public thinking war is just a game to our armed services? They have no clue the severity of what was faced? And from this the public didn't get a true sense of what has been done, or what is left to do?
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07:53 AM on 07/12/2011
I know I took one in the chest and my plate armor saved my old butt...The equipment and vehicals are very good. Of course the other one's got me in the arm and side...Was at work the next day. It is not the same situation however for the civilians. This is where the wars hurt our soldiers the most. There is nothing worse than dealing with these bullies and bushwackers hidding behind kids and women and something happens. The coalition are very concious of the rules of engagement and it saves many lives. But as I eluded the bad guys know this also. One has to be able to pick fights away from civilians and they work with us when possible, pointing out these guys way before any actions. It takes a ton of extra time and effort but it helps us the people and property.
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BacSi
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12:31 PM on 07/12/2011
If the people we are fighting had control of the skys, tanks, artillery, choppers, drones , jets, etc, etc, etc they might fight the wars the same way we do.
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BacSi
Celer, Silens, Mortalis
03:23 PM on 07/12/2011
"but the days of "get your battalions on line" and slug it out with each other are getting very rare."

And I for one, grunt 26, am not sorry about this.

In my war we were never surprised when a fellow Recon Team was taken out. You always knew that could happen-----on any and every trip outside the wire.

But when we would hear of whole USMC Infantry companies being over run------that sent chills up your spine.

Those days are not to be missed.
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Dr Oswald Spengler
05:57 AM on 07/12/2011
Of course, their Commander-in-Chief is still a community organizer at heart.
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Gusto2
01:20 PM on 07/13/2011
Yes, and he still have this whole community named the United States of America to organize and to my surprise he is not getting any help from the people who claim to love this country and self proclaimed "patriots" just because they can find themselves supporting a fellow American with black skin.
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Tim Kunk
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05:38 AM on 07/12/2011
funny the way things post