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Census Budget: House Bill Would Gut Economic Monitoring, Endanger GDP And Other Stats

Congress Data Collection Census Bureau Cuts

First Posted: 07/12/11 01:27 PM ET Updated: 09/11/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- If you think Congress doesn't understand the economy now, wait till you see what a key House panel wants to do to the people who help figure it out.

Lawmakers are taking on the budget for the Census Bureau, pushing cuts that could leave economists and businesses in the dark about key economic information even as they are trying to map a path through a treacherous, uncertain economy.

The House Appropriations Committee is set to put the final touches on a funding bill Wednesday that proposes to slash the government's data collection arm by 25 percent -- a cut that economists and statistics experts say could end up costing taxpayers and businesses billions.

"It's essentially turning out the lights as economic policymakers are trying to do their work," said Andrew Reamer, a George Washington University professor who focuses on economics and U.S. competitiveness.

The bill is the Commerce, Justice and Science appropriations measure for 2012, and the cuts in question target the Commerce Department's Census Bureau -- recently one of the bogeymen of the right. The cuts would take effect in October, leaving the bureau little time even to plan to mitigate the impacts.

And those impacts would be many. The Census Bureau declined to comment, but a member of Congress was willing to pass along the agency's estimate of what the cuts could mean.

"It would have major, permanent impacts on the nation's economic and demographic statistics," the bureau said, according to Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), a member and past chair of the House Joint Economic Committee.

"The Census Bureau would have to terminate major statistical programs, cease critical data collection and vital benchmark reports on the nation's economy, population and housing, as well as lay off off as many as 700 employees," the agency warned. "It would take years to recover from the loss of experienced career analysts, scientists and demographers who are the foundation upon which the nation's vital statistics rest."

To Maloney and others, that assessment is not hyperbole or exaggeration by an agency bent on self-preservation, but an accurate and alarming statement by the people who collect the data that decision-makers need to make sound economic choices.

"It leaves me rather speechless, actually," said Maurine Haver, the head of the National Association of Business Economists' statistics committee. "I just don't understand it."

Experts on the Census said there are several programs the bureau runs that could be affected by the proposed cuts. One is the $124 million Economic Census, which serves as the benchmark for the nation's fiscal reports, including evaluations of the Gross Domestic Product, jobs data and economic activity across industries.

"The Economic Census is the foundation for the country's most important measures of our economy," Maloney said. "A cut to the Census Bureau of this magnitude will undermine the confidence in our fundamental economic statistics, like the GDP."

Another large part of Census Bureau's work is the American Community Survey, which was expected to be funded to the tune of $250 million, but could now face cuts. That survey interviews some 3.5 million Americans annually to draw a detailed portrait of the nation that is used by every level of government and many businesses.

That information is deemed so vital to businesses that last week the U.S. Chamber of Commerce implored the Appropriations Committee to preserve Census funding.

"The Chamber strongly urges you to fully fund the Administration's request for the U.S.
Census Bureau's American Community Survey for [2012]," wrote the Chamber's Bruce Josten. "ACS data points are critical for business decision-making and long range planning. The business community uses census information daily to drive sound investment decisions affecting the allocation of resources throughout the country."

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WASHINGTON -- If you think Congress doesn't understand the economy now, wait till you see what a key House panel wants to do to the people who help figure it out. Lawmakers are taking on the budget...
WASHINGTON -- If you think Congress doesn't understand the economy now, wait till you see what a key House panel wants to do to the people who help figure it out. Lawmakers are taking on the budget...
 
 
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AxelDC
04:40 PM on 07/22/2011
Teabaggers have become so antigovernment that they can't recognize cost-effective, essential programs when they see them.  BEA and the economic census were created because lawmakers were operating blindly during the Great Depression.  They operate as the dashboard for the economy, so we know when we are going too fast, too slow, and when we are running out of gas.
11:10 AM on 07/13/2011
So, is this why we've added "In God We Trust"?

Unbelievable. We're on the road to oblivion.
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SamBaby
Life is Sweet!
09:54 AM on 07/13/2011
It will help those making up their own data. I'm sure that IS the plan.
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AZreb
equal-opportunity Independent heathen
09:47 AM on 07/13/2011
Are these the same economists who keep telling us that we are in a recovery? That the recession is over?
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SamBaby
Life is Sweet!
09:58 AM on 07/13/2011
Google - "technical definition recession"
You almost have to in or out of a recession before the definition confirms status.
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AxelDC
04:41 PM on 07/22/2011
That organization is a non-profit group.  BEA and Census only produce data; they don't provide anecdotal reports on it.
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pooka47401
Reality is the leading cause of stress!
09:01 AM on 07/13/2011
Those who seek to control our Country do not want accurate statistics about our population. They don't want to operate on the information that they know that they will be presented with. They want to operate America as a totally White, Male society. They still want to protect the premise that American families are The Cleaver, 2 parent, Mom stays at home in the suburbs, money is not an issue, family. They have already been told that babies who are being born and who are totally while, are becoming the minority. They don't want to acknowledge and act for the best interests of these children. They don't care! They want to remake America in their image. To have accurate statistics about our population would be against their vested interests.
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MovieGuy2010
You can't fight in here..this is the war room!
01:46 AM on 07/13/2011
The Republican/Teabagger/Conservative agenda has much to fear from real data.

The population demographics have to terrify them, just this year, for the first time ever, NON-White Births passed White Births...

Real economic data show that tax cuts DON'T lead to more hiring, that subsidies to industries like Ag congolmerate and Oil Companies typically DON'T lead to more hiring, or lower prices, but the only REAL effect is HUGE profits and exponential increase in executive pay?

Everyone has seen the CEO's push back on the new Regulations the reform bill has about salary surveys?

When the truth makes you look like a liar, the Conservative solution seems to be. lets hide the truth.

The darkness is where Rats hide, that is where the Conservatives want the US to exist...in the dark.
12:43 AM on 07/13/2011
The GOP no longer believes in mathematics or statistics. They got bored with their war on science and decided to create a war on math.
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SamBaby
Life is Sweet!
10:00 AM on 07/13/2011
Gig'em! Very insightful!
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AuntInAZ
Hypocrisy is one of my pet peeves.
11:14 PM on 07/12/2011
They make no sense with some of the cuts they want to make!
10:19 PM on 07/12/2011
How about the census steps into the real world and uses something other than snail mail to send out all of their surveys?

Simply using the internet would allow us to save hundreds of millions versus using print and mail.
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MovieGuy2010
You can't fight in here..this is the war room!
01:54 AM on 07/13/2011
The US is way down the list of access to the internet for a high percentage of the population, we are WAY down in world rankings.

Particularly in rural areas, in areas of the poor, and with the older population, an internet based census system would RADICALLY undercount those people, versus US Mail, which STILL reaches a much much bigger % of the population.
10:18 PM on 07/12/2011
I would personally like to thank the Tea Party for bringing to the House of Representatives (the peoples House), such a completely un-educated group of representatives.
10:20 PM on 07/12/2011
So tell me how all the educated people feel about saving hundreds of millions in printing and mailing costs by just using the internet?
09:53 AM on 07/13/2011
that's a smart idea... but what about the Billions lost to businesses?
09:01 PM on 07/12/2011
As long as government employes get laid off I don't care.
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DivergentMary
Yin-Yang Kitties
09:38 PM on 07/12/2011
You mean police and fire fighters and people who build the roads and those who fix the bridges and the folks who teach the kids? So, all of those people get laid off, and you can take care of all of those jobs by yourself? You must be one well-rounded fellow with lots of time on your hands to handle all of those occupations!
10:22 PM on 07/12/2011
Police and fire aren't federal workers are they?
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Mountain Man
08:06 PM on 07/12/2011
Not to worry...FOX will keep us informed..you know "Fair and Balanced" as in Bill O'Reilly style. How many times do you have to tell a lie to make it true...?
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David Gamblin
10:08 PM on 07/12/2011
Good question. For the people who watch Fox, continually!!!!! They have a very low attention span, and IQ's. But not to fear, continually repeating lies to make them true is Fox's specialty. They are definitely Expert Professionals in this field...
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robphilnz
Where's my Micro-bio gone?
10:52 PM on 07/12/2011
Agree with you entirely In fact "Don't Panic" should be the first words shown on the screen of Fox, and in the heaader of the WSJ, and all the other News holdings.

Murdoch will make absolutely sure that every American knows exactly what, and exactly as much, as what he wants them to know.

I wonder if the religious apocalyptics are still looking for the dreaded 666. What about the old man trying to rule the world from his New York base? Selecting the governments of the USA and UK is a start.
07:31 PM on 07/12/2011
This shows the desperation of right wingnuts. They know their political and economic ideologies make no sense and can't be backed up by either results or facts so they decided to get rid of the facts. How utterly pathetic. But don't ignore it. These people are serious about playing make-believe even if it destroys the nation.
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robphilnz
Where's my Micro-bio gone?
10:54 PM on 07/12/2011
Idiotogies They transcend ideology for Grover's Own Party.
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
06:34 PM on 07/12/2011
"Don't take away our beans! We need to count them!"

Seriously though, I want a "liberal" to attempt to give me a reason to know any data other than the number of people for voting districts.
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OnTheRoadAgain
Greetings, O-Bots
07:43 PM on 07/12/2011
On this particular point, I think you're heading in the right direction.

George Carlin on the subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI&feature=related
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arkymorgan
Nobody knows the trouble I've been...
08:01 PM on 07/12/2011
Sadly true.
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
08:09 PM on 07/12/2011
Well, not sure I see the relevance of Carlin's rant (I'm a big Carlin fan, though that wasn't much fun), except that it does look like the business wants the government to go act as their data collection system. I say let them pay for it if they need the data so badly.

We need the census to divide up government funds amongst states and to setup districting. That's about it.
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David Gamblin
10:14 PM on 07/12/2011
This allows us Liberals to calculate how much $$$ Republican's have blown during Republican Rule, example- The Bush years... This allows us to push back when they blame the Democrats for all the Republican mistakes. Republican's want to eliminate important economic data, so no one can really know how bad they have screwed this country over....
06:28 PM on 07/12/2011
The GOP and Tea Party or so determined to win total control of Congress and the White House the are apparently well prepared to wreck economic havoc and ruin on the vast majority of Americans. While spending clearly needs to be more tightly controlled, it should not be reigned in with partisan politics but rather with sound policies and decisions. The GOP/TP are only interested in one result, defeating Democrats in 2012. America deserves better.

When a Republican has been President for some amazing reason deficits didn’t matter.

If America defaults on its debt, the 80% or so of American’s who are not wealthy will pay the price. Approximately 69% of the National Debt is held by America; private citizens, pension plans, Savings Bonds, savings and loans, local governments, and on and on. The bottom 80% will certainly feel the pain. The upper 20% will also feel the impact, but when you are part of the wealthy that control some 85% of America’s wealth you can weather the storm.

The 80% of American’s who control only about 15% of America’s wealth need to wake up and let their voice be heard. We can not balance the budget on the backs of the middle class and the poor.