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Bachmann's Former Church Defends Anti-Catholic Views

Michele Bachmann Church

First Posted: 07/14/11 06:50 PM ET Updated: 09/13/11 06:12 AM ET

By Daniel Burke
c. 2011 Religion News Service

WASHINGTON (RNS) The Lutheran denomination that GOP presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann quit in June sought to explain its belief that the papacy is the anti-Christ after reports questioned whether Bachmann is anti-Catholic.

Six days before Bachmann officially launched her presidential campaign last month, the Minnesota Republican and her family verbally requested to leave Salem Lutheran Church in Stillwater, Minn., which is part of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS).

Synod spokesman Joel Hochmuth said Thursday (July 14) the Bachmanns had been members of Salem Lutheran for more than a decade, but had not attended the church for at least two years. They did not request a transfer to another congregation, he said.

The denomination says on its website: "We identify the anti-Christ as the papacy. This is an historical judgment based on Scripture."

Bachmann's campaign did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The Republican, who has surged in recent presidential polls, denied that she is anti-Catholic in a 2006 debate. "It's abhorrent, it's religious bigotry. I love Catholics, I'm a Christian, and my church does not believe that the pope is the anti-Christ, that's absolutely false."

Bachmann also said that her pastor, the Rev. Marcus Birkholz, told her he was "appalled that someone would put that out."

According to Hochmuth, the pastor told Bachmann that WELS "primarily views the office of the papacy as the anti-Christ, not the individual popes themselves."

Asked for comment, Birkholz said Thursday, "I have been asked by my congregation not to give any more interviews."

An online report in The Atlantic magazine on Thursday (July 14) reported on WELS' anti-papal doctrine, and questioned whether Bachmann also subscribes to the view.

Bill Donohue, president of the watchdog Catholic League, said he does not believe Bachmann is anti-Catholic, but that "it is not inappropriate to ask some pointed questions of Rep. Bachmann and her religion's tenets."

Hochmuth said in an interview the anti-papal doctrine is "not one of our driving views, and certainly not something that we preach from the pulpit." Hochmuth said he doubts whether many members of WELS are aware of the doctrine, which dates to Protestant Reformer Martin Luther.

"As a confessional Lutheran church, we hold to the teachings of Martin Luther who himself maintained the papacy, and in turn the pope, has set himself up in place of Christ, and so is the anti-Christ," Hochmuth said.

He also described the anti-Christ as a theological principle, not a "cartoon character with horns."

Hochmuth added that "we love and respect Catholic Christians ... Yet we pray that they would come to see the errors of their church's official doctrine that the pope is infallible and that no one can be saved outside of the Roman Catholic Church."

Lutherans believe that individual salvation comes through faith alone, not through obedience to church doctrine or leaders.

With about 1,300 congregations and 400,000 members, the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod is one of the smallest and most conservative Lutheran denominations in the U.S.

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TexasMike 08:12 AM on 07/15/2011
It's always good for a laugh to see denominations of the basically same church go after each other. I'm an old school irish Catholic...that is I was brought up in it but you never believe a word beyond what you feel is right and wrong. It's a tough concept to explain to these psychotic religious nuts who froth at the mouth over "their" Jesus. Truly scary. It seems to me that in America anyone can pop up  Read More...
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04:58 AM on 09/01/2011
And this person is a serious POTUS candidate???! Sheesh...that explains, again, the Virginia earthquake...
01:37 AM on 07/28/2011
Is this inclusion to inform or to generate animosity? Oh, yes. Huffpost. That answers my Q.
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04:59 AM on 09/01/2011
How is John de Lancie these days? :3
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danglines
11:25 PM on 07/27/2011
She's still a bigot.
KennebunkportIndependent
Back in my day, we had NINE planets.
06:35 PM on 07/26/2011
My quandry here is:

I don't like or trust Bachmann.

I don;t like or trust the present Catholic Church hierarchy.

So........

Let battle commence between the two!!
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juna
gardens and organic vegies (veggies)
11:41 AM on 07/25/2011
If such a thing as the anti-Christ really existed (and of course all of this mythology is just that) the RCC would certainly be a prime candidate for the apellation. Can there be anything more sinister, more evil or more repulsive than the systemic and institutional torture of children?
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Edward Hara
05:46 PM on 08/07/2011
It is not "institutional". The word "institutional" implies that there is a body of teaching which says that molesting is doctrine and taught as such. There is no such teaching anywhere in the official teachings of the Church. What you have here are some priests who went off the reservation, so to speak, and followed their degenerate nature.

Your bigotry is tiring and old.
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juna
gardens and organic vegies (veggies)
11:17 PM on 08/07/2011
Within the Church system, it was an institutional policy to protect abusive priests. That is what I meant. The priests were protected and the child victims were not. There was some instruction from the Pope concerning this, although I can't recall exactly what it was. What I am pointing out is the reason that many many people are very angry and extremely horrified at what has been done to children at the hands of employees of the RCC, who were not stopped.
12:47 PM on 07/21/2011
If I was a paid political image maker and Republican which i am not, I would put forth a mainstream, educated woman candidate that would trump extremist radicals. Kay Bailey Hutchinson in Drew Barrymore make up with JLo wardrobe or something avant garde. I am tired ot these off shoot radicalists with no political ingenuity getting day to day spotlight. How did Bachmann rise to fame? Being a Congressperson isn't the only criteria. Its the media who keeps exploiting America's idea of candidate likeability when in fact they are simply letting demogogues in the back door. For God's sake, at least like Tim Pawlenty better than this Bachmann creature and make my home state look reasonable.
12:21 PM on 07/21/2011
I am from Minnesota and Minnesotans despise Wisc synod. I grew up in a hip Lutheran church with cool pastors -ELCA - Evang. Lutheran Church of America. We did not loathe Catholics. Michelle Bachmann is pulling an Obama by pulling out of her church except doctrine is what it is -its not based on tyrannical speeches of Jeremiah Wright. She is an extremist and dislikes gays. Love the man hate the sin is not her philosophy. she wants to punish gays for being who they are and denying them civil rights. I am a Southern Baptist now and with my Masters in Poli Sci - even though I don't advocate being gay, I protect them constitutionally.
KennebunkportIndependent
Back in my day, we had NINE planets.
06:38 PM on 07/26/2011
Good on you!  It sounds as though your views are evolving as you grow.

I am suspicious of those who freeze their growth in belief because a preacher or a church allowed them to stop growing.  They wither on the vine of growth and belief.
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Demetrios423
11:11 AM on 07/19/2011
This lady has a lot of skeletons in her closet. More so than what is considered normal. I hope she goes away fast.
02:51 PM on 07/18/2011
Antichrist is against God & puts himself above Christ. Antichrist is a person not an office.
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
03:48 PM on 07/16/2011
This is very old news. I've been posting stuff about MB and her WELS church affiliation for a long time. My posts got continually purged. I guess HPost questioned why I was blabbering about the WELS' statements regarding the an ti-chr ist.

Hey national news media...way to go to be on a story so fast. It's been in the news in Minnesota since 2006.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Bachmann#2006_congressional
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John Roman
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03:33 PM on 07/16/2011
"Ought-oh! I better dump my church and my pastor before it becomes an insurmountable obstacle to the nomination". When your "change" is so obviously politically motivated, it is no longer change, it's just hyperbole. And you are a smiley-faced hypocrite.
03:15 PM on 07/16/2011
"cartoon character with horns."
As compared to a cartoon character that walks on water?
02:00 PM on 07/16/2011
Reading the Bachmann story and the comments here, arguing the minutia of religious belief, I'm reminded of why I am no longer religious. I see more intolerance and hate than brotherly love coming from religion. Keep this mess out of government.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
12:25 PM on 07/16/2011
Funny how conservative Catholic authorities are still trying to cozy up to the Religious Right and do their bidding, even though most of their own people are against it.

The Dominionists the GOP is putting up for office may try to deny it or be quiet about it when the mainstream media is looking, but it's *they,* not people who want the Church to stop oppressing us and interfering in our democratic government to abridge the rights of LGBT Americans, that are the *real* haters of Catholics. They may *use* you, but you wouldn't want to see them in power, either. Or help them take more.
06:50 PM on 07/24/2011
Seeing as most liberals seem to despise all Catholics, we don't have much choice. I used to be a Liberal, in fact I was an out and out Socialist till I realized the absolute hatred everyone on the Left seems to have for me and all Catholics and even all religions.

I'm still not a conservative or Republican but I now consider myself centrist and politically neutral.
01:20 AM on 07/16/2011
Many so-called main-line denominations have splinter groups that are steadfastly stuck in some theological or social-issue mire. The so-called "Wisconsin Synod" Lutherans are such a group. Staunchly conservative-- very much like the large Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod (LCMS). Sadly that synod was formerly one that championed education and real scholarship and ever growing applications and understanding of scripture. However, in the 70's a split in that church-- a power struggle funded by political conservatives-- ousted most of the progressive seminary professors and clergy. Unlike Bachmann's church-- supporting arch conservative stances on almost every theological or social issue, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is considered both orthodox and progressive, and is open to scripture leading to new understandings of issues-- like homosexuality. Bachmann's narrow background should not cast any sort of negative light on the Lutheran tradition of reform and standing up to authority when authority is wrong. Women have been ordained in Germany since right after WWII. In an attempt to reject women's reproductive rights, gay rights, theological growth, etc some conservatives have broken away or maintained narrow views. That is NOT the stance of the mainline Lutheran Church -- the ELCA-- or most members of the Lutheran World Federation. Mainline Lutheranism is more progressive than conservative. In fact, narrow thinking is really anti-Lutheran in the truest sense more so than the pope is anti-Christ. God help us if people associated with conservative religious dogma-- be it christian or mormon lead our country.
02:21 PM on 07/16/2011
No doubt this same Lutheran church stands by Martin Luther's tract ,"On Jews and their Lies," which calls on everyone to smash the windows of synagogues, destroy them and other Jewish houses of worship, burn them to the ground, and run Jews out of town. So much for following the literal words of Martin Luther who could always find a Jew to shoot at and a pretence to fire!
Makes you sick, too, the way conservative Catholics defend her.
06:29 PM on 07/16/2011
Arabia, you're doing exactly what the conservative sects do-- that is, taking things out of a broader understanding of the history and teachings of the protestant reformation and of Martin Luther. All of society was separated between Christians and Jews-- one shunned the other. Comments constantly were made, one about the other-- each was "unclean" to the other. But Luther NEVER shot anyone or advocated harming anyone. And Lutheran pastors like Dietrich Bonnhoeffer died in Nazi concentration camps because what was happening was wrong and an affront to the christian faith (and Lutheran teachings). It's better to be informed than just be cynical and take swipes.
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
04:01 PM on 07/16/2011
A big difference between ELCA and WELS is that the calenders in ELCA churches say 2011. The WELS calenders say 1517
05:05 PM on 07/16/2011
Thanks, HazelPethigFan! Sometimes we take from the Lutheran tree (as from any religious tradition) the blights and blossoms together. You direct attention to the better, the more worthy.