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Minnesota Shutdown 2011: Restarting Government More Than Flipping Switch (LATEST UPDATES)

Minnesota Shutdown 2011

AP/The Huffington Post   First Posted: 07/17/11 04:42 PM ET Updated: 09/16/11 06:12 AM ET

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ST. PAUL, Minn. -- Minnesota may soon have an end to its government shutdown, but re-starting the machinery of the state will probably take a few days.

Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and Republican legislative leaders were aiming for a special session as early as Monday to finalize a deal struck late last week. If rank-and-file lawmakers sign off on the deal, it will end a shutdown that's the longest in recent U.S. history.

But for residents whose lives have been disrupted, the relief won't be immediate.

"It's not like we can just flip a switch," said Doug Neuville, a spokesman for the state Department of Public Safety, which has halted renewal of driver's licenses and vehicle tabs during the shutdown. The computer systems used to issue renewals take time to bring back online, and the services won't be immediately available, he said.

Same goes for closed rest stops and state parks. State budget office spokesman Jonathan Pollard said those must be cleaned and thoroughly checked before people can use them again. Road construction projects idled by the shutdown are likely to require safety checks before work can resume.

Licensing hang-ups for beer distributors could take several days to unsnarl as well, as returning state workers deal with backlogs that built up during the shutdown.

"It depends on the level to which the services were down," Pollard said. "If you have an agency that's mostly been up and functioning, it may be easier than if you have an agency that's been completely shut down."

The Dayton administration will likely consider the shutdown officially over once the governor signs new budget bills into law, Pollard said.

Below, a live blog of the latest developments to unfold in Minnesota.

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Rep. Kurt Bills writes today on Rosemount Patch:

"A true budget solution not only balances our bottom line today, but it puts us on track for sustainability. The state budget package we passed this week gets us pointed in the right direction."

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Patch's Jeff Roberts reports:

“Welcome back. We missed you,†was the first thing Department of Natural Resources (DNR) Commissioner Tom Landwehr said before announcing that the opening of Minnesota state parks, forests and facilities is ahead of schedule. Originally scheduled to open at 8 a.m. Friday morning, Landwehr reported that as of 11 a.m. Thursday morning, 11 state parks are fully open, with an additional 15 parks partially open.

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Apple Valley Patch's Allison Wickler reports:

School administrators for District 196 will be meeting today to learn more about the state budget’s impact on local education. "I would say it’s certainly going to have an impact on schools," said Tony Taschner, communications director for Rosemount-Apple Valley-Eagan public school district.

The state government opened for business Thursday, a day after Gov. Mark Dayton signed into law budget bills that will affect everything from schools to health care in terms of state operations. Taschner said Thursday that a delay in school funding is "just further... delaying the problem."

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The AP reports:

Minnesota state workers returning to their offices after a three-week government shutdown will soon have to start processing a host of policy changes included in a pile of budget bills passed by the Legislature and signed by Gov. Mark Dayton.

One major change in the education budget bill is a new method of evaluating public school teachers that more closely ties their job status to student performance. The new system won't be fully in place until 2014.

Supporters say it's aimed as much at rewarding good teachers as disciplining bad ones. But the chief Senate sponsor says it should give local districts more latitude to get teachers out of classrooms if they consistently fail to improve student performance.

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Minnesota Public radio reports:

After three weeks of a government shutdown during which more than 20,000 state workers sat at home laid off, and state parks, rest stops and countless other operations sat idle, many Minnesotans are angry the people they elected to balance the state budget failed to do so.

Again, Minnesota lawmakers plugged a budget gap with short-term fixes. Rather than making structural changes in the way the state spends and collects money, more payments to schools will be deferred and future tobacco-settlement proceeds will now be tapped for cash.

As a likely consequence, the state's budget problems will return, and that fact hasn't been lost on voters who may remember the gridlock that dominated St. Paul on their next trip to the polls.

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Burnsville Patch's Clare Kennedy reports:

A group of Republican lawmakers today announced a plan that would effectively end state government shutdowns. Under the proposal, if a budget agreement isn’t reached by the end of the legislative session, funding for state services would continue at previous levels.

However, at least one of their colleagues believes a repeat of the 2011 shutdown is not in the cards. Burnsville Rep. Pam Myhra said all involved learned a lesson, albeit the hard way. "One thing I've heard is that the negotiation process (over the last few days) was a positive experience, with a good discussion and lots of give and take.

I think the shutdown was a shame -- unfortunate and unnecessary," Myhra said. "But hopefully this has been a good learning experience that will encourage us to work it out earlier, rather than to push it out and try to make a statement. I don't think it would happen again. It's been very painful for a lot of people."

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Richfield Patch's Caitlin Burgess reports:

"The bottom line is the governor agreed to accept a Republican budget plan by accepting this idea of borrowing money to balance the budget," Thissen said. "After Republican legislators were given seven options to do it in a permanent and more responsible way, he agreed. That’s why DFL legislators were told to leave the room. We didn’t have any part in the final negotiation of bills."

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The AP reports:

Minnesota's government is reopening for business after a nearly three-week shutdown closed state parks, laid off some 22,000 public workers and demonstrated the wide reach of state agencies.

Most state employees were told to start reporting to work at 7 a.m. Thursday, a day after Gov. Mark Dayton signed a budget deal that ended the nation's longest state government shutdown in a decade. It also cost Minnesota millions in lost revenue.

Not all services will resume quickly, and the work backload is expected to be large, but the recalled workers will restart a slew of services from the lottery to enabling licensing for drivers and anglers.

Even horseracing enthusiasts will have their fun back because the shutdown, in one of many examples of the government's reach, forced Canterbury Park horse track to close after state gambling regulators were laid off. It cost horse owners and jockeys more than $1 million in purses and put about 1,000 people out of work.

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Burnsville Patch's Clare Kennedy reports:

Rep. Pam Myhra (R-Burnsville) was working on five hours of sleep when she spoke with Burnsville Patch. "I don't think any of us —the governor included— think we got everything we wanted," Myhra said. "I'm not worried about [backlash]. I'm not in it to be re-elected. I'm here to stand on principle. My goal to have sensible state spending and protect families from tax increases. I want to champion those principles. I will let the election take care of itself."

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Northfield Patch's Zac Farber reports:

Rep. Kelby Woodard who represents Northfield said "My constituents are ready for the government shutdown. I am as well."

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Eagan Patch's Zac Farber reports:

Sen. Ted Daley, who represents Eagan, said the state could avoid future faceoffs like this and plans to introduce legislation that would prevent a government shutdown again. A shutdown was "certainly not anything that anybody wanted," Daley said.

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Hopkins Patch's James Warden reports:

Rep. Steve Simon (DFL-District 44A) and Sen. Ron Latz (DFL-District 44) are glad the shutdown is in the past but unhappy with the way the final budget relies so heavily on cuts and borrowing.

“This is regrettable because there were better ways to do this fiscally,†Latz said. “The reduction is two-thirds cuts and one-third borrowing, and to me, this is like paying your bills with a very high interest credit card.â€

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Minnetonka Patch's Katelynn Metz reports:

Although the ink is now dry on the state’s budget and the government shutdown has officially ended, implications of the shutdown may be far from over for the city of Minnetonka—and its budget.

The reason: the Minnesota Department of Transportation (MnDOT) stopped work on the Highway 169/Bren Road interchange project during the shutdown. City officials said the decision was avoidable, and warned it could be expensive. And now, Minnetonka is considering taking legal action against MnDOT.

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Oakdale Patch reports:

Rep. Nora Slawik said many of the 12 bills that passed the Minnesota Legislature Tuesday were hastily written and Democrats were excluded from helping write them.

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Roseville Patch's Zac Farber reports that Reps. Bev Scalze and Mindy Greling both expressed disappointment in the final outcome of the government shutdown.

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Sen. Scott Dibble, who represents Southwest Minneapolis, said Tuesday the new budget deal that ends the state government shutdown was the product of extremist views held Republicans in the state legislature.

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MInnetonka Patch's Katelynn Metz reports:

Sen. Terri Bonoff (DFL-Minnetonka) told Patch that the budget solution doesn’t solve the real problem: a swollen budget with few long-term fixes. “The gap that we have fixed has been fixed with one time money…with a Band-Aid and we’ll bleed more next year,†she said. “We still don’t have revenue that’s in line with our projected expenditures…This is a solution that is not fiscally responsible.â€

Rep. John Benson (DFL-Minnetonka) said he was "disappointed" with the final budget. "We’re now stealing $2.3 billion total from our school children -- with no way to pay it back. We’re borrowing $700 million from future revenue that isn’t guaranteed -- putting more debt on our children," he said. "We’re almost literally mortgaging the future of our state. This is the height of fiscal irresponsibility and our state will be paying for it for decades to come."

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Rosemount Patch's Jennifer Pfeffer reports:

Leprechaun Days is only a few short days away. This 10-day long celebration begins on Friday and runs through Sunday, July 31. However, that is a little too soon for vendors participating in the festival.

Due to the state government shutdown, vendors are unable to obtain the required electrical permits from the state and, instead, must purchase them through the city. On Tuesday, the City Council voted to decrease the permit fee for vendors from the usual $55 to match the state fee of $35 for this year only.

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Rep. Keith Downey of Edina said Tuesday that while he's not 100 percent happy with the outcome of the special session budget deals, he felt the legislature was finally coming together on an acceptable compromise.

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Maple Grove Patch reports that an upbeat Maple Grove Sen. Warren Limmer said Tuesday he's glad to get the budget bills passed to get Minnesota state workers back on the job.

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Rosemount Patch's Jeff Roberts reports:

Gov. Mark Dayton just signed into law all 12 budget bills passed in the middle of the night Wednesday by the Minnesota House and Senate. Dayton’s signatures ended the shutdown of Minnesota government—at 20 days, it was the longest continuous shutdown of any state government in United States history.

In the end, Dayton kept his promise that he wouldn’t sign any of the bills until all 12 had passed through both houses of the legislature

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After signing the budget, Dayton said he was "not entirely happy" with it.

"It's not what I wanted, but it's the best option that was available and would be for any time," he said. Dayton said the budget "gets Minnesota back to work."

Details were still emerging Wednesday about how quickly state operations would restart.

A day earlier, Tina Smith, Dayton's chief of staff, told reporters that state employees would get 24-hour notice before reporting back to their jobs.

Jim Schowalter, the state's budget commissioner, added that it will take longer to restart some state agencies than others since some have continued partial operations during the shutdown. He predicted it would take weeks for agencies to work through paperwork backlogs, clean up parks and other sites and return to normal operations.

"There is a backload of work," Schowalter said. "There is a backload of issues that are going to have to be addressed."

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The AP reports:

In less than 12 hours, lawmakers passed nine budget bills that together fund all major state operations. Individually, many of the bills stretched to hundreds of pages, leaving legislative Democrats to complain they were voting based on little knowledge of what was contained within. ..

During floor debate, Republicans tweaked Democrats for voting against the only available option to end the shutdown. A vote against the budget bills "is a vote to continue the shutdown," said House Majority Leader Matt Dean, R-Dellwood.

In addition to the nine budget bills, lawmakers approved a pension bill and legislation allocating dedicated sales tax money to outdoors and cultural programs. They approved a $498 million construction bonding projects bill that includes $51 million for a new physics building at the University of Minnesota, $42 million for a new science and engineering laboratory at St. Cloud State University, $50 million for flood control projects around the state, and $56 million for transportation projects with more than half to local bridge replacement and repairs.

While Democrats bemoaned the spending bills as not generous enough, some conservative Republicans had resisted to committing their support after months in which they insisted no new revenue was needed in the next state budget. But in the end, House Republicans held together on all the budget bills while Senate Republicans suffered only a few defections on a handful of the bills.

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The Star Tribune reports:

The special session concluded just before 3:45 a.m. Wednesday after a marathon of votes on nine budget bills and a $500 million bonding bill. There was little fanfare when the deal was done and lawmakers had erased a projected $5 billion deficit largely through one-time borrowing.

The dormant gears of Minnesota’s government will not start moving until Dayton signs the bills on Wednesday morning.

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Fridley Patch's Jeff Roberts reports:

11:15 p.m. [CST] Tuesday: It took less than an hour’s work for Minnesota lawmakers, who reconvened this afternoon, to pass five bills, the first of several that Gov. Mark Dayton is expected to sign.

The House and Senate took their seats in the Legislature at around 3 p.m., opened the special session, observed a moment of silence for the late Sen. Linda Scheid (R-Brooklyn Park) and then recessed for more than three hours.

When they reconvened at around 7 p.m., they got to work. Within an hour, the Senate had passed six bills; the House had passed five. The Legislature then went into recess again; lawmakers were back at their desks later in the evening.

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Richfield Patch's Caitlin Burgess reports:

Now that legislators are working to end the state shutdown during a special session Tuesday, the Minnesota Historical Society announced it will reopen all 26 of its historical sites and museums throughout the state Saturday.

Including Fort Snelling, where Rachel Gonzales and Adam Hanneman were supposed to get married July 16. Unfortunately, this news comes a little too late for the newlyweds, who found an alternate location to continue with the Saturday wedding.

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Mendota Heights Patch's Danielle Cabot reports:

Mendota Heights-area legislators said during today's recess that they aren’t thrilled with the source of revenue being used to balance the budget and end the state shutdown, and they’re not too happy with how the process has worked to the exclusion of the public and most legislators.

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St. Michael Patch's Jeff Roberts reports:

Once Gov. Mark Dayton received the final seven bills, he will sign the package into law and the shutdown will come to an end. Money could start flowing to state agencies as soon as late Wednesday.

"We're confident [the shutdown will come to an end], yes," said Senate Majority Leader Amy Koch, who represents St. Michael. . "We've been busy caucusing and our membership is on the same page. There's mixed emotion. We were really excited about the bills we (had) passed in May. But there are still reforms in this package. We're excited to see the effect of those reforms."

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The AP reports:

An end to Minnesota's nearly three-week-long state government shutdown came into view on Tuesday, when Gov. Mark Dayton called the Legislature into a special session to vote on a budget deal.

The 19-day government stoppage has sullied Minnesota's good-government reputation, while disrupting lives and businesses around the state.

It will be over only after both chambers of the Republican-controlled Legislature approve nine budget bills and Dayton, a Democrat, signs them into law. Legislative leaders and Dayton agreed before the votes began to limit the scope of the special session and lawmakers' ability to tinker with the bills in an effort to keep the budget pact from unraveling once 200 legislators get involved.

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St. Michael Patch's Mike Schoemer reports:

Rep. Joe McDonald (R-Delano) of District 19B–which includes St. Michael-Albertville–said he has some "concerns with some of the provisions of the final budget agreement, but is glad to see "progress." He said he hasn't read enough of the framework to give his full opinion on the negotiated agreements.

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12:03 PM on 07/19/2011
Minnesota has been pushed into a corner by the rabid GOP in efforts to force the redistribution of wealth (and power) from the Working Class to the Upper Affluent. And, this is a blue print for the entire United States if, the GOP is allowed to have the majority of control in Washington.
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dfranz
With Liberty and Justice for all
11:57 AM on 07/19/2011
This should give the voters of Minnesota a chance to preview what it will be like should Bachmann's personal decision not to allow the debt ceiling to be raised actually comes to fruition. You vote for ignorant ideologues and you get what you get. Nothing like seeing what government actually does to make people change their views that all Government is bad.
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MNJim
Bio doesn't meet the guidelines
03:53 AM on 07/19/2011
This shutdown is really not resolved. The Repug leaders have a mutiny on their hands; rank & file won't support it bc it includes more spending than the baggers wanted. Rank & file Dems won't support it bc there are no new revenues bc the Repug legislative leaders wouldn't accept that. They resolved NOTHING. All they did was cut some more people off state health care plans, which will negatively impact us all; screw the school districts again, which will negatively impact us all by way of large property tax increases; and borrow a ton of money to pay our debts. Meanwhile, our once-stellar credit rating is sinking, making our debt service more expensive, but the Repugs will not support another dime of taxes on the top 2% of wage earners, as proposed by the Governor. I think the legislature may very well change hands again in 2012----the Repugs played very hardball, no compromises and they played stupidly, always protecting the wealthy, while making the poor & sick bear the brunt of the cuts. The letters to the editor column in the Mpls Star Tribune have been smart, articulate, and I think a good indicator of where the thinking lies of educated people around the state.
Freedom Lives
Do you wonder, watch, or make it happen?
12:30 AM on 07/19/2011
Truth be told-

and I take no pleasure in saying this-

the Minnesota Governor suffers from ongoing mental illness.

His is a chronic condition of manic depressive disorder-

and it was once again evident all throughout this crisis.

His history of relapse as recently as the past 36 months-

is documented by his stay at Hazelden,

which also entailed treatment for relapse use for substance abuse.

And you can clearly see the underlying disease is present in his body language-

and his flat monotone manner of speech and facial expressions.

Senator Thomas Eagleton had to resign his VP candidacy-

on the Democrat ticket when he ran with George McGovern-

when his suffering from mental illness-depression was revealed-

and his bouts were ten years in the past.

Minnesota requires a mentally fit and competent Governor-

and sadly, Mark Dayton fails that test.
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Scott Anon
All We Are Saying Is Give Peace A Chance.
12:23 PM on 07/19/2011
If you're going to take the time to post something like this, back it up with links to proof.
Otherwise it's conjecture.

If conjecture is adequate in your opinion then I will offer you this:
Senator Amy Koch (R) is morbidly obese and likely to have a cardiac issue in the near future.

Neither your statement or mine matter as to the subject at hand, which is the Minnesota budget.
Freedom Lives
Do you wonder, watch, or make it happen?
02:49 PM on 07/19/2011
If you need a link on this-

than you have clearly not been following the news, have you.

And yes, mental capacity and emotional stability DOES-

have a direct impact on a negotiating process.

Even legislators have commented on their frustration with Dayton and his hot/cold personality-

which can change throughout the day.

And it's not about political posturing mind you-

it's sadly about personal issues.
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ClintBMD
Now where did I leave that Micro-bio again?
01:45 PM on 07/19/2011
You write it in the form of poetry? And who's crazy?
Freedom Lives
Do you wonder, watch, or make it happen?
02:45 PM on 07/19/2011
Had to double space-

far too many ACORN posters here who have difficulty-

with word comprehension.
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
11:52 AM on 07/18/2011
You GOP types need to work 24/7 to fix this...as you caused the mess as you always do whenever people are foolish enough to elect you.
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blackraisin
Life, Liberty, Property.
11:53 AM on 07/19/2011
The governor is the one who wouldn't pass the budget.
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olehippie
I have no micro-bio within "moderation"
08:53 AM on 07/18/2011
How are the people that are actually effected, you know the citizens that voted for these "leaders", going to react to all of this in 2012? Will they understand that there is one party that wants, no, welcomes, such shut downs as progress? Do the people actually see this as progress? How do they react to campaign ads by Republicans announcing their pride in such shutdowns?
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tek phlarpt
05:30 PM on 07/18/2011
95% of local MN TV, radio, and newspapers try their hardest to prevent anyone from thinking about the issues you have pointed out. They focus on sports and beer making laws. A person in MN has to actively search for the truth. Thank gord for the interwebs.
08:11 AM on 07/18/2011
If restarting a state is a problem. What do you all think will happen if the GOP/tea party shuts down the Federal Government? If the President says take two weeks off and them maybe we will see what happens. At the end of week one he says come back to work. How many do you think may just say I like the time off and I will come back next week?

I know what my room mate is going to say. We have gone out of town on vacation. See you in two weeks.
07:55 AM on 07/18/2011
What a crock of excuses! A few people who’s drivers license or sticker expired, computers getting back on line, clean bathrooms (who’s been using them since the shutdown), replacing some road cones and horses, and a few days without beer. Things that would take someone in a normal business a few hours, but a union and/or state worker will turn them into days, weeks, who knows how long. Get that overtime on our dime.
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proggirl
college teacher, artist, writer
02:40 PM on 07/18/2011
Yawn. Unions unions unions. You guys need to learn a new tune. I've encountered mountains of bureaucracy in your so-called efficient private sector too.
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baxtron
tek phlarpt
05:31 PM on 07/18/2011
I tried to fan you a 2nd time. They need to change the fan rules.
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tek phlarpt
05:31 PM on 07/18/2011
"our" dime. your avatar is a Bears helmet?
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Darryl Clayton
I don't suffer fools gladly
05:38 PM on 07/18/2011
I know, right?
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CaptainObvvious
Calling me a liberal is a compliment!
07:37 AM on 07/18/2011
This article reminded me why I can't stand the baggers who are for the federal government defaulting,. They act like it will allow us to start over like we can let it crash then start fresh.

If it crashes we will be exactly where we are today with the same problems only we'll be adding many many more to it. If they think the debt is bad now wait until we are paying a higher interest rate.
07:58 AM on 07/18/2011
We print our own money; we can pay any individuals groups, countries, etc, anytime, anywhere.
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CaptainObvvious
Calling me a liberal is a compliment!
08:06 AM on 07/18/2011
We can't just print more and more money.

The value of our dollar will drop and drop which would mean we have to print more and more money to pay our debts which would then lead to us having to print more and more devaluing our dollar more and more...
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olehippie
I have no micro-bio within "moderation"
08:55 AM on 07/18/2011
If you think it is that easy then you truly do not grasp the gravity of a Federal default.
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baxtron
tek phlarpt
05:33 PM on 07/18/2011
interest rates will go up sharply after default. like in.....1978ish? sound familiar? Reagan running for office. Reprivitans trying to make Carter look bad.
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Mistinguette Grandison
No. Corporations are NOT people
07:04 AM on 07/18/2011
Hey guys. I'm a Minnesotan. The shutdown didn't really change my life whatsoever. But I'm glad it's about to be over because we were too close to something bad.
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Scott Anon
All We Are Saying Is Give Peace A Chance.
12:04 PM on 07/19/2011
Please elaborate on "we were too close to something bad."
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Mistinguette Grandison
No. Corporations are NOT people
01:37 PM on 07/19/2011
Well, to be honest, not something terrible, but we were at least close to the inability to sell beer, which would affect job growth.
05:41 AM on 07/18/2011
They paid legislators when they were shut down? I guess the state wasn't shut down for them.
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proggirl
college teacher, artist, writer
02:41 PM on 07/18/2011
Know the whole story. Over 200 legislators voluntarily abstained from pay during the shutdown, which is not yet over officially.
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baxtron
tek phlarpt
05:34 PM on 07/18/2011
Dayton did not take a check.
10:38 PM on 07/18/2011
he's rich not a great sacrifice
ezdeath
I am not a number, I am a FREE MAN!
10:20 PM on 07/17/2011
land of 1,000 lakes waiting for 1,000 tbagrs to be dipped in continuously until weakened
10:22 PM on 07/17/2011
Land of 10,000 lakes, not 1,000. More space for teabag dipping.
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proggirl
college teacher, artist, writer
10:34 PM on 07/17/2011
Actually it's over 12,000, but we're Minnesotans. We don't like to brag, ya know. Have some lefse!
ClaudiaL
'They're the ones who ate the blueberry pie.'
09:46 PM on 07/17/2011
So, the end of the shutdown came about because people couldn't get their beer? Maybe Obama needs to withhold all alcohol from the GOP, & ciggies for Boehner. That'd get them moving.
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ta8ersalid
The End of the GOP Starts in Nov. 2012
09:14 PM on 07/17/2011
So, just tell us now.

How much money did you cost the state with the shutdown and bring it back online?
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threelees1
07:11 PM on 07/17/2011
Before restoring all of the services that were disrupted, the people of Minnesota should be surveyed as to what services they did not miss so that those services can be eliminated entirely and money could be saved. I know that if the federal government is shut down, I would not miss most of the services that were curtailed. On the federal level, the only thing I personally benefit from is the Coast Guard that protects our shores. The army, air force, navy and marines are off fighting wars we dont need. Same goes for the FCC andother agencies that regulate business activities that would self-regulate if the government weren't there to do it.
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dojone
nada
09:55 PM on 07/17/2011
You don't benefit from inspection of meat and other potential carriers of epidemics? You never use an interstate highway and don't mind if the border patrol just lets everyone from Canada and Mexico come in and bring anything they want? You don't need warning of tornadoes or hurricanes coming your way? Are you a superhero or what?
10:25 PM on 07/17/2011
Good points. There are so many things we all take for granted, but are woven
into the fabric of our lives every day.
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JessWonderin
10:31 PM on 07/17/2011
well . . it would relieve Massey Mining from the burden of maintaining TWO sets of safety issue records . . . or maybe just reduce it to not even keeping track

. . . . "self-regulate"? isn't that what gave us the Wall Street meltdown???
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McKMN
Hard Rock Union Miner
11:06 PM on 07/17/2011
Well I wouldn't miss Zellers' or Koch's services, and the services of all the legislators wearing the penny lapel pins were virtually non-existent. So they can go now.

BTW: The pins were worn with the slogan of "Not one penny more". Right, it wasn't one Penny more, but 1 billion and 4 million dollars more.

The last reports I saw were that Koch and Zellers weren't having much luck getting their caucus to fall in line. I don't think it will pass.
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Scott Anon
All We Are Saying Is Give Peace A Chance.
12:09 PM on 07/19/2011
I think every single elected official should be required to wear either a blue shirt or a red shirt with their office emblazoned on it so that everybody can see who they are and what party they represent.

For example:
Senator Amy Koch in a red shirt (size XXXL)
With Senator written on the front