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U.S. Default Would Likely Cause Stocks, Bonds, Dollar To Collapse

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By MATTHEW CRAFT   07/17/11 04:14 PM ET   AP

NEW YORK -- Time is running out for Washington to raise the country's borrowing limit and avoid a default. Wall Street isn't panicking yet. But if the unthinkable happens, a default could strike financial markets like an earthquake.

"If we just get higher longer-term interest rates, we'd be lucky," said John Briggs, Treasury strategist at the Royal Bank of Scotland.

What might markets look like after a default?

The tremors from even a short-lived default could take unpredictable paths. Stocks, bonds and the dollar would likely plummet in the immediate aftermath.

There's wide agreement among economists that a default would drive up borrowing costs for everybody. U.S. Treasury yields act like a floor for other lending rates, so raising them makes it more expensive for Americans to take out mortgages, for corporations to finance new spending and for local governments to borrow.

But analysts say predicting exactly how a default would play out in stocks, bonds and currency in the hours and days following the Aug. 2. debt ceiling deadline is practically impossible.

"If I were to draw a flow chart, it becomes so complex it's impossible to analyze the impact of a default," said Guy LaBas, chief fixed income strategist at Janney Montgomery Scott.

When pressed, investors say the immediate aftermath could look like the financial crisis in September 2008. Stocks would lead the way down. In the month following Lehman Brothers' bankruptcy, for instance, the Standard & Poor's 500 index lost 28 percent.

Gold may offer some refuge. Fear has driven traders into precious metals in droves in recent years, but gold is at a record $1,594 an ounce, without taking inflation into account. But two places where traders usually hide -- the dollar and U.S. Treasurys -- are likely to sink as the world's investors flee the U.S. There would be few places to hide.

A deeper fear is that a default could freeze the short-term lending markets that keep money moving throughout the global financial system. Treasurys and other government-backed debt are widely as used collateral for loans in these markets.

A default and a downgrade of U.S. debt by rating agencies would shake the trust in that collateral, Briggs said. Lenders could respond by demanding borrowers to post more collateral, forcing them to sell other investments to meet those demands. A similar selling cycle spread turmoil across markets when Lehman Brothers collapsed in 2008.

But the fallout from a U.S. default could be much worse.

"I don't even want to think of the ripple effects," Briggs said.

Indeed, most analysts agree that if the world's largest economy reneges on its debts, the consequences would be catastrophic. That's why so far they've trusted Congressional Republicans and President Barack Obama to reach a deal.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke certainly drew a dire picture in testimony before the Senate Banking Committee on Thursday. He said a default would be a "calamitous outcome" and "create a severe financial shock." The global financial system relies on Treasurys, backed by the world's largest economy and long considered one of the world's safest bets.

"A default on those securities would throw the financial system potentially into chaos," Bernanke said.

The widespread selloff that might trigger could have one benefit, Briggs and others say. Panic-selling might force Washington to quickly agree to raise the debt limit. Think back to September 2008 for some historical perspective. After the House of Representatives voted down the bailout bill to create the Troubled Asset Relief Program on Sept. 29, the Dow Jones industrial average nosedived 777 points. Congress made an about face and four days later passed the TARP bill. President George W. Bush quickly signed it into law.

"We're setting up for a TARP-like moment," said Neil Dutta, U.S. economist at Bank of America-Merrill Lynch. "The politicians don't come to a resolution, but the market forces a resolution."

Traders are still banking on a deal to increase the borrowing limit before the Aug. 2 deadline. That's one reason stocks and bond yields have remained relatively stable thus far, even after Moody's and Standard & Poor's warned they may soon take away the country's top credit rating.

"What would shock is if Washington failed to beat the deadline," said Tony Crescenzi, market strategist at Pimco. Crescenzi and other investors believe the negotiations could drag on until the last minute.

Markets would likely greet a deal with a "relief rally," analysts say. The effect would be the reverse of a default: Stocks, corporate bonds and the dollar all jump.

"The market will react well to it," said David Kelly, chief market strategist at J.P. Morgan Funds. Kelly said a deal would lift the uncertainty hanging over investors, especially those too worried to buy stocks now. After President Bush signed the TARP into law in 2008, for instance, the Dow made large jumps, adding as many as 946 points in a week.

When Washington finally agrees to raise the debt ceiling, Treasurys could drop because investors would be more willing to take risks in other investments, Kelly said. That's how they normally trade: Good economic news pushes Treasury prices down and yields up.

The relief may not last long. If the agreement leads to deep spending cuts, Wall Street economists say it will likely drag down economic growth. Similarly, in late 2008, the wild gains evaporated as the financial crisis took hold. The S&P bottomed out in March 2009.

Federal spending makes up 8 percent of gross domestic product, a broad measure of the economy. Goldman Sachs economists estimate that a deal to cut $2 trillion in spending could take 0.8 percentage points off economic growth next year. The bank already predicts modest real GDP growth of 3.1 percent in 2012. Knock off a quarter of that and the economy won't look much better than it does now.

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NEW YORK -- Time is running out for Washington to raise the country's borrowing limit and avoid a default. Wall Street isn't panicking yet. But if the unthinkable happens, a default could strike finan...
NEW YORK -- Time is running out for Washington to raise the country's borrowing limit and avoid a default. Wall Street isn't panicking yet. But if the unthinkable happens, a default could strike finan...
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02:07 PM on 07/26/2011
I am not going to worry about it. Bonds and the dollar are backed by the full faith and hot air of the US government.
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LetsGoSteve
09:47 PM on 07/20/2011
More Chicken Little crap; Scenario I have two sons one who continually spends more money then he earns and 40% of what he earns is now being used just to service his debt. Or the son who has decided to spend less then he makes, and has a bank account that can deal with unforeseen events. Which son is the greater risk to borrow money to? The investors looking at our debt situation will feel better about America’s future if we curb our spending, and give the job makers a reason to start investing. Currently over 40% of America’s GDP is going to service the debt.

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/07/19/casino-magnate-steve-wynn-slams-obama/
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06:22 PM on 07/20/2011
to be "fair" the tea party republicans want to divide government expenses by the population and then send every man, woman, and child in america the same bill.

oh, don't have enough to pay your kids' taxes? that's ok. they can work it off, just like in the good ole days. grandma died still owing uncle sam? that's ok, her debt can be her descendents' "inheritance" and they can pick up paying where she left off. but the koch brothers' kids inherited a billion bucks tax free? the lord does work in mysterious ways.
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LetsGoSteve
09:24 PM on 07/20/2011
"to be "fair" the tea party republican­s want to divide government expenses by the population and then send every man, woman, and child in america the same bill."

When you make statements that our obviously false, you loose all credibility. Why is it that liberals refuse to capitalize America?
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10:27 PM on 07/20/2011
speaking of incredibility, if indeed i have lost all of mine, why then would you subsequently ask me a question presumably important to you?

perhaps the answer lies in the recurring right wing mystery of logically needing to have it both ways and in the same paragraph to boot.
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Desuka
01:53 PM on 07/20/2011
its good to hear the Republicans are going to destroy the economy so the Koch brothers dont have to pay more in taxes. . .
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LetsGoSteve
09:26 PM on 07/20/2011
Try getting a job that will allow you to pay off your student loans from a poor person.
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Desuka
12:16 AM on 07/21/2011
Well on the plus side if we default, the dollar would plummet, so however much you owe in student loans might be just enough to scrape together to go grocery shopping. . .
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sprkyreed
01:48 PM on 07/19/2011
Whatever we do, we should keep the rich "rich." After all they're going to create jobs, aren't they? Granted, maybe not here. In the meantime, cut SS, Medicare, Medicaid and Veteran's benefits? What are they, sacred cows? So what if the Government reneges on its word? Doesn't everybody sometime?
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LetsGoSteve
09:33 PM on 07/20/2011
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/07/19/casino-magnate-steve-wynn-slams-obama/

The job makers have zero confidence in this administration. Wynn has balls enough to come out and say publicly what the job makers have been saying privately since Obama has been elected. I trust Mr. Wynn has his accountants prepared to deal with the IRS audit soon to follow.
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troutster
Fish fear me. Otherwise, I'm pretty harmless.
11:35 AM on 07/19/2011
"A default on those securities would throw the financial system potentially into chaos," Bernanke said."

Or on the other hand, we could do what the t-geniuses want: just not raise the debt ceiling - just for kicks and giggles. Let's see what happens. C'mon it'll be fun.

Let's do what the tea guy says with the sign - shut 'er down. What a great experiment!

Or...we could be adults and pay our bills.
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Rita Foster
11:29 AM on 07/19/2011
Doesn't it strike you all as odd that Wall Street is concerned about the price of stocks and borrowing...if I am not mistaken, stocks are at an all time high right now without the help of the consumer or small businesses...they appear more panicked than anyone...I am certain something will pass by the deadline....but it appears the greedy are more concerned with how Wall Street will suffer if the debt ceiling isn't increased....hell, it's not like the banks are helping every day people..even people with great credit.....SCREW THE BANKS AND WALL STREET!
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Brent Harrelson
08:58 PM on 07/19/2011
I'm no real fan of Wall Street, but if we default, as usual, it will be the average American that gets hurt the most.
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Carolab
Walking an 87-year-old in the sand isn't easy
01:08 AM on 07/19/2011
Wait a minute - isn't the guy in the photo the same as the guy in this photo on the main page?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/16/stocks-debt-ceiling_n_900663.html
12:34 AM on 07/19/2011
they don't want to think about the effects of downgrading , very simply put pass the vaseline .
12:33 AM on 07/19/2011
actually the default may not be all bad news , the multi tyrillon bill to japan England and China would become much smaller . reverse effect of the parity system on which our economy is based .
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MorpheusLV
01:42 AM on 07/19/2011
The amount of debt owed to Japan would be the same. It would simply be harder to pay as $1 would no longer have as much purchasing power. Consumers will get hurt. Inflation will skyrocket. Chinese goods will get more expensive and raise the trade deficit. Oil would be far more expensive. $6.00 for a gallon of gas would not be unthinkable. All Republicans have to do is get off of their high horse and stop protecting a few tax breaks that only apply to millionaires and billionaires.
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Brent Harrelson
09:06 PM on 07/19/2011
That's not entirely correct. The lower purchasing power of the dollar would not matter. If we owe them $7 trillion dollars (or whatever the number is) then we would still have to pay them $7 trillion dollars. One of the few good things that would come from a default is that if we somehow decided to pay our foreign debts it would be "cheaper" after a default. Example - We borrowed $7 trillion from China when the dollar was stronger. We default on our debt and the dollar collapses. Now every dollar is only worth, say, 50 cents. we pay china back $ 7 trillion dollars, but, as you said, their purchasing power is lower. although we are paying the full 7 trillion, they would effectively only get 3.5 trillion. china knows this too, which is why they vehemently oppose ANY idea that would devalue the dollar. (incidentally, the other benefit to a default and a seriously weakened dollar is that the cost of american made products would be dramatically cheaper overseas and we would export more - if there are any jobs left in the US to manufacture stuff.)
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wrascil
11:27 PM on 07/18/2011
I can read the headlines already congress defaults and the defunded military must withdraw from 5 war's, 0'Bomber the war monger inadvertently keeps campaign promise to return troops, Dum'0'craps praise his inept stupidity and is re-elected GOD HELP WHATS LEFT OF AMERICA
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Brent Harrelson
09:10 PM on 07/19/2011
obama didn't start the wars. and if you are including libya as a war then how many soldiers do we have on the ground there? ZERO. how many casualties have we had there? ZERO. compare these numbers to bush's wars. if you really want god to bless america then vote democrat, some of our soldiers may live longer too.
11:02 PM on 07/18/2011
Nothing would happen. It's all a freaking sharade
10:35 PM on 07/18/2011
THE GOVERNMENT MUST...MUST....MUST....BE MADE TO NOT SPEND MORE THAN IT TAKES IN. EVERYONE IN WASHINGTON DC....HOUSE/SENATE/PREZ.....MUST STOP "KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD"....AND NOT...NOT...NOT....RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT, EVER AGAIN. JUST LIKE A FAMILY, IT MEANS THEY MUST "TIGHTEN THEIR BELT" AND CUT BUDGET EXPENDITURES HERE, THERE & EVERYWHERE. IF THAT MEANS A DIP IN THE STOCK MARKET...SO BE IT. EMAIL YOUR SENATORS AND TELL THEM TO FORCE THE PRESIDENT AND THE BLUE PARTY TO NOT RAISE THE NATIONAL DEBT!!!!!!!!!
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MorpheusLV
01:47 AM on 07/19/2011
Cutting spending in many cases will decrease GDP and revenues by more than is being spent. It makes no sense to cut $10 in spending if you lose $15 in revenue by doing so. This is precisely the scenario that Republicans do not want to talk about. Those people not wanting to raise the debt limit want to bring the world economy down. The recession will become the next Great Depression. The problem is it will be a world phenomena and not just the US. Most rich people will lose everything as nobody will be left with any money to buy anything.
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Brent Harrelson
09:16 PM on 07/19/2011
i agree with tightening their belts, but not the debt ceiling part. we only have three choices. 1) create a balanced budget with tax increases, spending cuts, and money set aside for the debt. most americans seem to prefer this option because they have a brain. congress doesn't have one though so this option isn't very likely. 2) raise the debt ceiling. or, 3) default on the debt. this is FAR AND AWAY the WORST option as ALL Americans WILL be hurt by it.
09:59 PM on 07/18/2011
It will be a dream come true for Republicans.The rich population in future will become extremely rich and the middle class will barely exist. US will become a less influential nation buried in ignorance, poverty, bibles and guns in the long run. Society will be a very dangerous place if you are not rich. The not-so-rich teabaggers will realize it much later after they have done the damage to themselves. I can feel sorry for them as I will be fine.
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MorpheusLV
01:48 AM on 07/19/2011
Rich people will not create enough demand for anything to keep factories going or bring in imports. The health care system will implode. They won't be able to get medical care. Money won't be worth the paper it is printed on.
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Brent Harrelson
09:19 PM on 07/19/2011
there's a problem with that rosy scenario for the rich - millions of well armed, disgruntled americans. the rich didn't fare so well in the french revolution, or the russian revolution, and they would do even worse here.
QuantProgrammer
Cap welfare benefits at two kids.
09:28 PM on 07/18/2011
What will happen if the US defaults?

We'll all be billionaires!