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Long Road Ahead In Firing Atlanta Teachers Targeted In Cheating Report

Nathan Deal

First Posted: 07/19/11 07:02 PM ET Updated: 09/18/11 06:12 AM ET

Atlanta educators charged with cheating on students' standardized tests received a letter from Erroll Davis, Atlanta's interim superintendent last week.

He told the 178 educators they had until Wednesday, July 20, to either resign or get fired.

"You either confessed to cheating or were otherwise implicated in wrongdoing," Davis wrote. "We give you the opportunity to resign your employment with APS prior to official notice of my intent to recommend your termination."

What the letter didn't note is that what could be Atlanta's largest-ever mass teacher termination is not as simple as Davis would make it seem -- even in a right-to-work state like Georgia, which can circumvent some of the labyrinthine policies implemented in states with compulsory teachers union membership.

Depending on the specifics of a case, the teacher firing process in Georgia can range from days to weeks to years. Costs mount as legal fees accrue. Atlanta has put the accused teachers on administrative leave, meaning the district will continue to pay their salaries as the termination processes unfold.

"Since Georgia is a right-to-work state, [the termination process is] probably about as streamlined as any in the nation," said Hayward Richardson, a professor of education at Georgia State University. But even so, the process can wear on, running officials thousands of dollars in legal fees and salaries paid to the teachers who face dismissal.

"This high volume is a rare instance for not only Atlanta but also school systems around the country," Richardson added.

Completing the Atlanta terminations could take a number of years, says Michael McGonigle, counsel for the Georgia Association of Educators.

"There's an unprecedented number of these cases coming out of the gate," McGonigle noted. "I'm not sure how they'll process them at this point. ... If they mess up [on legal grounds], and we can argue on appeal for reversal, we will do that. Or if the evidence isn't strong enough ... we would appeal that."

In Georgia, teachers can be fired for "incompetency, insubordination, willful neglect of duties, immorality, encouraging students to violate the law, failure to secure and maintain necessary educational training and any other good and sufficient cause," according to state law.

Still, McGonigle noted, "due process is there to slow things down, so you can really get all the facts in any case."

Two weeks ago, state investigators released a report detailing the "culture of fear, intimidation and retaliation" in Atlanta Public Schools that inspired the 178 implicated educators to allegedly cheat, mainly by erasing incorrect answers on student exams and replacing them with correct ones. Since then, the state has moved quickly to restructure some of its offices and remove those affiliated with the scandal. U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan said in a statement Monday that his office has been "looking at" the fraud.

The cheating scandal in Atlanta -- and others around the country -- sparked a vitriolic debate in the Washington Post over the role high-stakes testing plays in pressuring teachers to amend their students' answer sheets.

But the next steps for the Atlanta district -- terminating those 178 implicated teachers -- also touch on a broader national debate about the best way to fire teachers.

"I don't know whether it [the unfolding of the termination process in Atlanta] will affect the national debate or not," said Tim Daly, president of the New Teacher Project. "People have talked about more expeditious processes especially in misconduct, but because they're so rarely used, it doesn't get a lot of attention."

"People will pay attention to how it works here," he noted.

In January, the American Federation of Teachers presented guidance for streamlining the teacher termination process around the country. Several states, including Illinois, have recently passed laws that make it easier for districts to fire teachers. New York State is trying to amend its teacher termination process.

These efforts have largely stemmed from the perceived need to purge school systems of teachers deemed "ineffective." Revelations about the process's difficulty in districts like Los Angeles -- where, according to LA Weekly, school officials spent $3.5 million attempting to fire just seven teachers who were targeted for poor performance -- have only added fuel to arguments in favor of termination streamlining.

But in Atlanta, the case is different: The targeted teachers would be fired for alleged misconduct, not incompetence.

Several of the implicated Atlanta teachers have left the district since the investigation began. As of this writing, according to Atlanta Public Schools spokesperson Keith Bromery, one has chosen to resign and another retired since Davis mailed his letter Monday. That leaves the district with about 140 teachers to fire.

"We want it done as soon and as quickly as possible with the understanding that these individuals are entitled to due process," Bromery told The Huffington Post.

After Davis's deadline -- the close of business Wednesday -- the remaining educators will receive a charge letter, which will contain an accusation and a witness list. After that, if the teacher still does not resign, hearings will proceed after a 10-day waiting period, either in front of the school board or a three-person tribunal appointed by the board. The recommendation of the tribunal or hearing would be passed onto the school board, which would make the final decision at a monthly meeting.

The losing party has a right to appeal the decision to the Georgia Board of Education, a process that could take several months.

After that, unsatisfied losing parties can take their cases to court -- a long and costly step that McGonigle said he is willing to take on behalf of teachers. "That can take another year or so," he said. He estimated a case could cost about $10,000 for his group to bring to court.

McGonigle called the lengthy cheating report a "blunt instrument" that painted its results in "broad strokes." As an example of this alleged lack of nuance, he cited a case where the report claimed the cheating confession of a second-grade teacher who instructed students who completed a test too quickly to go back and check their work.

"That's a little disturbing, that something like that can slip through," he said. "They're inferring that telling kids to check their work is cheating, when that's the norm in classroom behavior."

While the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports some attorneys general are still weighing pressing criminal charges against teachers involved, Bromery said the termination process would be unaffected.

If they were fired, teachers could still work in different districts in Georgia -- but they would have have a note of termination in their records, which is why, according to Bromery, Davis gave implicated educators the option to resign.

But McGonigle said that teachers would be forced to explain the circumstances of their resignation on job interviews anyway. He has urged GAE members to not resign.

Andrew Lenoir contributed to this report.

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02:45 PM on 08/08/2011
This is the result of thinking you can apply the mentality of a bad retail store with its sales people, sell, sell, sell, or be fired, to education. Like teachers have magic against poverty. Hundreds of studies, have shown that it is economic and cultural situation is the greatest single element. Now, how many good and honest teachers were fired under this crazy policy of take no prisoners? How many were trapped by the mafia that did all this cheating? Have looked into other educational systems for reference? Still, standarized tests are the only way of knowing what's going on, not with only portfolios, you have to answer the test, do the math, answer the question, show that you know.
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08:43 PM on 07/22/2011
Meanwhile, the children have been cheated out of a decent education.
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05:22 PM on 07/22/2011
Thank goodness for standardized testing and No Child Left Behind. Now we can all be a dumb as Georgians.

Finland has no standardized testing, yet has an education system success rate that is the envy of the western world.
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Ed Red
06:48 AM on 07/22/2011
Simple solution indict all of them under a RICO statute. Allege they are all a part of criminal enterprise. File both civil and criminally against them go after all of their property and seek to send them to prison.

They will either be broke or in prison at the end. Make an example of the Beverly Hall Mafia.
02:12 AM on 07/22/2011
How many principals and superintendents are being fired?
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francisco cortes
03:35 PM on 07/21/2011
"NY Times article about how New York State’s Education Department designed standardized English and Math tests to be so easy over the past ten years where more students can cop higher scores, and how the state subsequently ignored warnings by a range of educators that the practice is wrong and must be changed, is a barn burner. "
This happen a year ago but the cheating administrators including bloomberg and Klein never received letters of resign or be fired, go figure!!!!
11:16 AM on 07/21/2011
The teachers who have such a lack of integrity that they will cheat will then have no problem costing schools and taxpayers tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to get them fired.

They obviously will not do what is best for the student, the parent, the honest teachers and the school system itself.
chillis
saints are sinners that keep on trying
12:27 AM on 07/21/2011
What I keep thinking about is how many people had their hands on those tests before they were submitted to the state. Due process is necessary because someone other than the teacher could have erased and changed answers. There are more people impacted by these scores than classroom teachers. If there is a problem building wide or system wide, the answers could have been changed at the central office. I am sure some teachers did cheat, but I find it hard to believe it happened on such a large scale without major organization. I mean jeez, did they send out a memo?
snapperhead
Freedom isn't free. Where's the invoice?
02:19 PM on 07/21/2011
Can our favorite Rhee-former account for her whereabouts during the time frame in question??!?!?
08:31 PM on 07/20/2011
America spends the most and is 20 something in the world for quality. No one wants to talk about our welfare state and its impact on education.
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Stephen Stafford
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08:54 PM on 07/20/2011
What do you mean by our "welfare state"? How does this "welfare state" impact education in your view?

This article concerns students, teachers and administrators in the Atlanta Public Schools. I know full well you are not calling our beautiful city a "welfare state", nor trying to slight any of our people across the economic spectrum.
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sbmulqueen
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11:03 PM on 07/20/2011
Of course he is. And by our "welfare state" we know what s/he means.
05:04 PM on 07/22/2011
Welfare state; was a poor choice of terms. I still have a ways to go expressing myself. As a Christian I have always tried to live by the 'Golden Rule' and be charitable in word and deeds. Contrary to the opinion of the poster that misjudges me I did not mean to slight anyone.
08:57 PM on 07/20/2011
America ranks #37 in spending on education as a percentage of GDP. Our teachers, who are better educated than 95% of our population, are relatively low paid, so that many of them leave the field for more lucrative careers in the first five years.
11:13 AM on 07/21/2011
NOT low paid when you compare their salaries for nine months work to salaries of people who work 12 months out of the year.

And the hooey about using the summer to get advanced degrees and such forgets the fact that those in the commercial job market must take time off or do it on nights and weekends.
snapperhead
Freedom isn't free. Where's the invoice?
02:34 PM on 07/21/2011
billc, you are correct, and that is only HALF the story. Half of all teachers leave the profession before year 5 or 6. That is a brain-drain.

But I would REALLY like to see where we rank as far as GDP spending is concerned, when we truly compare apples to apples; US GDP expenditures on education include healthcare, and in many of the countries that 'outrank' the US on test scores that the 'reformers' keep pointing to, their healthcare costs may not be a component of their overall spending on education. Which would mean we really only spend about 4.6% of GDP on education. And that drops us further down the list.

Now it's starting to sound like a race to the bottom.
04:44 PM on 07/20/2011
First, I want to say I do not condone cheating - but I believe that the problem lies with the system, and not these teachers. The education laws we currently have in place - including high-stakes testing - assume that all students in all districts have the same chances of passing, which just isn't the case. It creates an imbalanced system where teachers teaching at affluent and middle-class schools never worry about state take-overs and losing their jobs, while those in poor areas and inner-city schools, who have the most difficult teaching job of all, are constantly threatened with lay-offs, reorganization and school closings. Teachers should not have to live in fear because they try to teach students whose parents are less affluent. The real story should be the fact that while politicians want to demonize these teachers and make their already difficult job more hazardous and instable, that anyone chooses to teach there at all, and that cheating on the tests occurs so irregularly - so infrequently that this is a huge story. Maybe it will get better when we start to talk about how to get and retain great teachers, instead of how to more easily fire the poor sods that are the only ones trying to educate the poor and make some kind of difference in their lives. Creating easier ways to fire teachers is no solution to America's education.
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02:13 PM on 07/20/2011
Why does giving teachers, or any employee for that matter, due process considerations in termination bother anyone? Just because you are accused does not make you guilty. As this article even points out, those that may have "confessed" may not have confessed to a serious, or even real, problem. It would seem to me that we should be looking to terminate those who would treat others unjustly. This is a horrible situation. It was not created over night, and it will not be ended by simply declaring it over. Strong arm tactics of "quit or be fired" are not proper in this situation. I fully expect even more costly lawsuits over this situation because of this action.
09:02 PM on 07/20/2011
I agree. The quit-or-be-fired plan of attack is similar to the previous cheat-or-be-fired policy, except that in the latter the teachers acquiesced in fear for their livelihood. Now that losing their livelihood is a certainty, what have they got to lose by fighting back in court?
11:14 AM on 07/21/2011
And since the teachers aren't going to act out of integrity - as they have shown by their previous actions - they will have no problem costing the schools and the tax payers tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars.
01:19 PM on 07/20/2011
Simple question which administrators have been terminated. If you constructed a system in which rampant cheating was possible you also are not worthy of your salary.

In terms of due process this is no different than any temrination process where employers take the necessary steps to prevent being on the wrong side of a wrongful termination lawsuit. Indeed the states problems would seem to be compounded by the administrative incompetence that would have existed to allow this to occur.

And personally I look forward to trials where perhaps we learn much more. I find it hard to believe this occured at the bottom on this scale without messaging from administrative control somewhere. If that is so I have faith the teachers ind efending themselves will out it.
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Uncle Bill
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12:04 PM on 07/20/2011
Where are the articles complaining about the costs of due process for those accused of crimes?  Shall we simply do away with due process for them because of the costs of having judges, prosecutors and jury trials?
Once due process is had- by all means let's punish the guilty, including professional sanctions against their licenses to teach anywhere if appropriate, but let's not put the cart before the horse.
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sbmulqueen
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10:59 AM on 07/20/2011
I am so sick and conflicted over this whole thing. I'm a firm believer in due process, and I know the teachers were under immense pressure from the top (Hall) down. That said, "I was just following orders," is never a valid defense. School starts here Aug. 8 (crazy I know) and the idea of kids going back to these schools with these teachers still potentially in the mix infuriates me. I feel very fortunate that my daughter's school is nowhere on this report (great results, so much so that the APS has poached our principal to replace one of the ousted area superintendents) but the taint is over the whole system.
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sawyer0413
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02:15 PM on 07/20/2011
The situation was created over many years. While painful, it is going to take time to resolve properly. If you rush this, it will be even more costly to students and taxpayers in the long run. I wish this wasn't the case for APS, but it is.
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sbmulqueen
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02:41 PM on 07/20/2011
That is true. But at the end of the day it seems no one - NO ONE - has the interests of the kids' at heart. I feel for the teachers, I really do, and if it takes a full dismissal hearing and process, so be it. But they cannot be allowed to teach here. Period, no ifs, ands or buts. I for one would like the entire board gone, as well. That's another story.
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Stephen Stafford
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09:15 PM on 07/20/2011
The teachers are teaching, and the students are learning. It is time to hold your head up and talk about what is really going on. Those misdeeds do not define what the students and teachers are up to.

My church worships in a Middle School in that system, and it is a pleasure to walk those halls and see what is going on in that school. I was pleased albeit saddened that "our" principal was selected to be an area superintendent as a function of that scandal. I am excited for every student and teacher now under Dr. ____'s command.

I don't know how you can say no one cares about the children. I look at my television and daily see people spitting blood seeking to get to the bottom of this. Just today people were out for the Chamber of Commerce's head for his role in covering up and declaring through an initial investigation that there was no wrongdoing.

People are very concerned about all the children and are mobilizing in many ways. Please do not misrepresent what people here are doing. There are people all over the world reading these comments. You are not the only parent in Atlanta who cares. Indeed, just about everyone is concerned. Many are looking for ways to help.
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sbmulqueen
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11:01 PM on 07/20/2011
Stephen, I've followed your posts on these threads. You and I both are stakeholders in APS, so I know we have a vested interest. I know I am quite fortunate that my daughter's elementary school is not in the report, and indeed, our principal, who I adore, also was tapped as a replacement area superintendent (and actually, selfishly, I'm upset over it). I know there are more teachers and administrators who see this as a life calling than the ones in this story. My comment about no one caring about the kids was in reference to administrators (starting with Hall) to implicated teachers -- their comments have been consistently about "them" and not about the kids. Not to sound pollyanna, but isn't that what it's supposed to be about? We can have a lot of discussions about why it's not that way, but the reality is what it is. And frankly, I don't care if my comments are read "all over the world." The perception is that parents don't care, and I can say that this parent does. And not just about my children, but about all of the kids in APS.
09:29 AM on 07/20/2011
This was so predictiable. The moment NCLB became law, cheating scandals became inevitable. Once you dictate that you must fatten the pig by weighing it, you get someone playing with the scale. At best standardized tests tell us how well a specific group of children did on a specific test on a specific day under specific circumstances--that's all. The results can't be meaningfully compared with another group taking another test on a different day. They can't tell how well one teacher teaches in comparison to another or how that teacher taught this year compared to last. They can't tell you that a "failing school" (the most ignorant phrase in education) is now a...a...a what? a "passing school?" because it suddenly get''s great results.
Teachers and their unions keep telling the public that this doesn't work and keep getting ignored! Ridiculous!
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Marionette
10:18 AM on 07/20/2011
kids do not learn in a vacuum.. these tests, while i disagree with them, shouldn't be an indicator for just the students.. what it's showing are symptoms of a larger problem between parents, teachers, students, policies both state and federal, corruption, ideologies, job security, funding and budgets, salaries, unions, environment etc etc etc..

but if you boil that entire miasma of motivators, excuses, rationalizations and justifications down to it's simplest forms?

it brings you to the daily interactions of parents, teachers and students.. if no one is going to stand up for the right thing at it's base level, then what do all of the other factors *actually* mean?

would i fight for a teacher that has proven to have integrity? damn skippy..
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sbmulqueen
I voted for "That One" - TWICE!
10:59 AM on 07/20/2011
Yup - read Freakonomics, chapter 1. I can't believe more people didn't read that first.