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Marwan Barghouti, Jailed Palestinian Leader, Urges Protests For Statehood

Marwan Barghouti

DIAA HADID and ARON HELLER   07/20/11 01:45 PM ET   AP

RAMALLAH, West Bank — An imprisoned Palestinian uprising leader held by Israel called Wednesday for "millions" of people to take to the streets in support of a Palestinian independence bid this fall – a scenario that Israeli officials warn could spin into a new wave of violence.

With peace talks stalled since 2008, the Palestinians have said they will instead ask the United Nations to recognize their state during the General Assembly session in September.

In an effort to avert a showdown over the issue, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made his first Arab media appearance to appeal for a return to negotiations. He told Al-Arabiyah TV that he would be willing to travel to Ramallah in the West Bank, if needed, for face-to-face talks.

Netanyahu's interview and the appeal by imprisoned Palestinian leader Marwan Barghouti illustrated the wide gap between the positions of the two sides.

Israel wants peace talks but refuses to stop West Bank settlement construction first and makes demands the Palestinians reject – like recognizing Israel as a Jewish state and maintaining an Israeli military presence in the West Bank _while the Palestinians appear to be giving up on negotiations.

Barghouti, the most prominent Palestinian prisoner held by Israel and a potential future presidential candidate, dictated the message to his lawyers during a recent visit to his cell, according to his wife Fadwa. It was published in Palestinian newspapers, and a copy was sent to The Associated Press.

He called on Palestinians in the occupied territories as well as those in other countries to "peacefully march in their millions during the week of voting in the U.N."

Barghouti said the sight of protesters waving the black, red, green and white Palestinian flag worldwide would strengthen the Palestinian cause.

Barghouti, convicted on murder charges in 2002, is serving five life sentences for his role in fatal Palestinian attacks.

Israeli officials say neither Israel nor the Palestinians want renewed violence, but that even one individual – a Palestinian rock thrower or an Israeli soldier who opens fire – could set off an explosion.

Barghouti, 51, was a leader of a Palestinian uprising that began in 2000, during which a wave of suicide bombings rocked Israeli cities and killed more than 1,000 civilians. About 4,000 Palestinians were killed in clashes with Israeli forces during the violence, which lasted several years.

Palestinians say their first option is full recognition from the Security Council, but the U.S. is likely to veto that. Then they would turn to the General Assembly, where they have an assured majority, for nonmember state status.

The vote would be largely symbolic, but the Palestinians believe an international endorsement would put heavy pressure on Israel to withdraw from territories claimed by the Palestinians – the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem.

Gabriela Shalev, a former Israeli ambassador to the U.N., said the Palestinian U.N. initiative would be counterproductive.

"How will this help them? It can only bring violence again," she told the AP. "I think it blocks the (peace) process and both sides will hunker down in their positions and it could create a lot of rage."

Shalev said only direct negotiations would bring peace. She called the Palestinian unilateral bid "an obstacle for the peace process and will definitely not help promote what we want – two states for two people."

The Palestinians say there is no point in negotiating if Israel continues to build homes in Jewish enclaves in the territories the Palestinians claim for their state. Some 500,000 Israelis now live in east Jerusalem and the West Bank. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005.

In his TV interview, Netanyahu said all issues, including the future of Jewish settlements and final borders between Israel and a future Palestine, are matters for negotiations.

His spokesman Mark Regev said the prime minister was sincere in his offers, including a proposed trip to the headquarters of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah for talks.

"He wants to negotiate a solution, he doesn't believe in outside imposed solutions," he said. "This is the first time since he was elected that he has given an interview to Arab media. This was a conscious decision to speak with the Arab world."

At a briefing in Ramallah Wednesday, Palestinian U.N. envoy Riad Mansour said the efforts at the U.N. should be seen as part of a step-by-step process toward gaining independence from Israeli occupation.

"There are no silver bullets. We know the process of our struggle to independence. We accumulate points on a long journey to achieve independence," he said.

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Heller reported from Jerusalem.

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Johnny Bomers
05:56 PM on 07/28/2011
Postphone and do noting. Do not go to the UN for a resolution. Play dead and allow Israel to take more land. Are these suggestions from Ms. Shalev supposed to be taken serious. Take a look at a map of Israel, Gaza and the West Bank combined. In 1948 the State of Israel was created on the premise that the Jews were getting fifty percent of the Arab land. Before 1948 The Jewish population owned ten percent of the land. By granting them fifty percent of the Arab land the Israeli State should now comprise fifty-two percent of the the overall area. It sure does not look like that on the map. Israel's military has assured the takeover of much more than they were originally granted. It was the UN that created an Jewish State. Have the UN create a State for the Palestinians without interferance from the US.
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maui ono
01:03 PM on 07/27/2011
Now Abbas is matching Marwan Barghouti's call a Palestinian 'Arab Spring' - yahoo!

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/abbas-tells-palestinians-step-up-arab-spring-style-protests-against-israel-1.375589

"In this coming period, we want mass action, organized and coordinated in every place," Abbas said. "This is a chance to raise our voices in front of the world and say that we want our rights."

"I insist on popular resistance and I insist that it be unarmed popular resistance so that nobody misunderstands us. We are now inspired by the protests of the Arab Spring, all of which cry out 'peaceful', 'peaceful'," he said.
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Bar Kokhba
I'd have a micro-bio if I knew how to make one
06:33 PM on 07/22/2011
to meb1357-As far as your proclaimed concern for the exiled/murdered and disenfranchised Jews circa 1948, or for your alleged objection of any other heinous crimes committed against said people, I will not comment for I do not know you or your motivations. However, your insistence that your citations are on point and applicable reminds me of the person who knows enough to be dangerous but has no real grasp of the facts. Or perhaps, facts don’t matter to you should they get in the way of your polemics. In fact 242 explicitly enumerates the internationally recognized rights of Israel. According to Eugene Rostow, a former Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs in the Johnson Administration, Resolution 242 gives Israel a legal right to be in the West Bank. The resolution Rostow noted, "allows Israel to administer the territories" it won in 1967 "until 'a just and lasting peace in the Middle East' is achieved. BTW, your denial of the coordinated and premeditated attack on the part of the 5 Arab armies in 1948 is revelatory as to your unreasoned bias. Whether or not you “accept” that fact is irrelevant for the historical record is very clear.
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meb1357
Remember Kafr Qasim
07:22 PM on 07/22/2011
Rostow is not in position to give an authoritative opinion on UN SC Res. 242.
You want clarity?
Israel is illegally occupying the West Bank.
Palestinians have the Right of Return.
Zionism is based on taking from another people.
"Whether or not you “accept” that fact is irrelevant for the historical record is very clear".
These principals are universally accepted, except by most Israelis. .."your denial...is revelatory as to your unreasoned bias."
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Bar Kokhba
I'd have a micro-bio if I knew how to make one
03:46 PM on 07/22/2011
The article headlines Marwan Barghouti, as a “jailed Palestinian leader” and continues on to report this person’s call for “unarmed demonstrations”, etc. Despite the theme of the article, this arena becomes an echo chamber for the anti-Israel propagandist; the never ending promulgation of myth and outright lies in an effort to obfuscate known facts. Of course virtually none of the comments are on point, supposedly in violation of HuffPo’s guidelines. But why should a few guidelines get in the way of lusty, anti-Israeli vitriol. Incidentally, Mr. Barghouti is one of the most infamous, notorious and wretched indiscriminate murderers of civilians in recent memory. Irrespective of one’s opinion regarding the conflict, all reasonable people must renounce and condemn this creature. Perhaps most offensive is HuffPo’s portrayal of this murderer as “a jailed leader”, suggesting an almost noble quality to his plight. If he had committed his crimes in Texas he would be dead…
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meb1357
Remember Kafr Qasim
04:35 PM on 07/22/2011
I bet if where free, he can go to England without fear of being arrested. How many Israeli leaders can say that?
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Bar Kokhba
I'd have a micro-bio if I knew how to make one
05:16 PM on 07/22/2011
Doesn't speak well for Britian does it?
10:30 PM on 07/21/2011
Does anyone still not get it? The Israeli/Palestinian conflict is not about territory or territorial concessions by the Israelis. If Israel were to give the Palestinians all the land they claim as their own, the extremists Palestinians still would not be at all satisfied. Not even if Israel gave up East Jerusalem, allowed for the right of return for all Palestinians living in other lands and made every concession they could or have ever demanded would there be peace. A two state solution will never be possible if the Palestinian people don't give up their insistence that the Jewish State of Israel simply cease to exist. The radical Palestinians such as Hamas will never recognize the Jewish State of Israel and the Muslim world will never accept a Jewish State either. Is the Arab world laid down their weapons there would be peace. If Israel were to lay down its weapons today there would be no peace and certainly no Israel. It is not now nor has this conflict ever been about land but about the Arab’s refusal to accept a non Islamic country called Israel and their blind hatred of the Jewish people.
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meb1357
Remember Kafr Qasim
10:45 AM on 07/22/2011
The Arab League, representing 22 states, has on the table, the Saudi Peace Plan, which has been offered since 2002, which offers Israel full recognition and relations, in exchange for withdrawal to the 6/4/1967 borders, and a just solution to the refugee problem. This plan has been endorsed by the 56 nations of the Organization of Islamic States. It offers everything Israel SAYS it wants, and asks for less than you claim Arabs demand. How has Israel responded? That it is starting point.
Hamas has said it will accept whatever the Palestinian people approve of in a referendum.
Maybe it is you who still doesn't get it, that Israel is the obstacle to peace.
Oh and as for the "Jewish state" stuff, when you, American Indians, and the tens of millions of minority Americans are ready to recognize America as a white, Christian state, let me know.
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madsen26
12:43 PM on 07/22/2011
Actually, what this newly arrived hasbaratchik called lionhtd is maybe more revealing than he intends, since it just demonstrates the underlying combination of paranoia, hatred and expansionist mania that is the real reason there never has been a forma peace and never will be. But it won't stop the move toward a formal declaration of the state of Palestine and most of the world recognizing exactly that. And it's all happening within two months, which is why they're increasingly hysteric and hateful.
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cosmiczulu
let the good times roll
01:08 PM on 07/22/2011
Sorry the plan calls for right of return which would destroy the Jewish state.

By the way, minorities don't fair well in Islamic countries if you haven't noticed.
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Bar Kokhba
I'd have a micro-bio if I knew how to make one
03:11 PM on 07/22/2011
Allow me to become your first fan, well done lionhtd
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Relpo Miraculous
Psychobiological Anthropology
04:46 PM on 07/21/2011
From the State of Israel:

"(Barghouti is) the founder of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades which has carried out a large number of deadly terrorist attacks killing scores of Israelis and wounding hundreds... (H)e received large amounts of funds from different sources both inside and outside Israel... (which he used) to finance... dozens of attacks, including a large number of suicide bombings within Israel. (Examples include):

Jun 12, 2001 - The murder of a Greek Orthodox monk on the road to Ma'ale Adumim.

Jan 17, 2002 - The shooting attack during a bat mitzva celebration.. (s)ix Israelis were killed in this attack, 26 were injured. (UK Telegraph account here; BBC's account here; Wikipedia entry here)

Jan 22, 2002 - The shooting spree on Jaffa Street in Jerusalem. Two Israelis were killed, 37 wounded.

Feb 25, 2002 - The shooting attack in the Jerusalem residential neighborhood of Neve Ya'acov. One Israeli policewoman was killed, 9 Israelis were wounded.

Feb 27, 2002 - The murder of an Israeli at a coffee factory in the Atarot industrial zone of Jerusalem.

Feb 27, 2002 - The suicide attack perpetrated by Daryan Abu Aysha at the Maccabim checkpoint in which two policeman were injured.

Mar 5, 2002 - The shooting spree at the Tel Aviv Seafood restaurant. Three Israelis were killed, 31 wounded.

Mar 8, 2002 - A suicide terrorist was killed in Daheat el Barid as he was on his way to carry out an attack in Jerusalem.
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Nwo2012
Sue me, I boycott products from the settlements
06:48 AM on 07/22/2011
Would you like a list of the thousands of people, including the hundreds of kids that have been killed by israels occupation army and its militant settler militia?

Hes calling for peaceful protests. Something right-wingers like you have been demanding for years. Stop complaining.
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cosmiczulu
let the good times roll
01:12 PM on 07/22/2011
It's pretty easy to document that Israel does not intentionally target children while it's easy to document that for the last 100 years Jewish children have been a primary target, from attacks on schools and school buses to murdering babies, of anti Israel terrorists.
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nk5otr
06:40 PM on 07/22/2011
Sorry, facts about Palestinian actions are definitely not approved of around here. It tends to get in the way of the ranting.
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Aussieposter
And so it begins
09:50 PM on 07/20/2011
If I were allowed to vote in 1948.......(had I been born then) I would have voted against the state of Israel and for a democratic secular state of Palestine. This was the counter proposal to the U.N. General Assembly resolution 181put forward by the Arab National committee.

http://unispal.un.org/unispal.nsf/9a798adbf322aff38525617b006d88d7/a8c17fca1b8cf5338525691b0063f769?OpenDocument.

In general I have an issues with states that proclaim themselves, White, Islamic, Christian or Jewish. What that generally means for people that do not fall within the racial, religious or political parameters prescribed is that they end up being second-class citizens.

If you the reader consider yourself in any way a supporter of democracy you must take note of the fact that from 1917, the fate of Palestine, was decided by Britain, The League of Nations and the United Nations. Never by a vote of those living there. You must consider the fact that because Arabs constituted nearly 70% of the total population that the population demography was the reason why a vote was never held.

You cannot unbreak the egg. While I might consider that state of Israel Illegal and illegitimate. I do not argue that it be dismantled. I do argue that the Palestinians have a legitimate case for there own statehood without any agreements with Israel
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tallen
panem et circenses
10:23 PM on 07/20/2011
>>the fact that from 1917, the fate of Palestine, was decided by Britain, The League of Nations and the United Nations.

You left out the arabs...who sent their representative to Versailles in 1919 to argue for the creation of Jordan and Saudi Arabia...and who signed a written agreement agreeing that the Jews had a right to their state as indigenous people.
http://domino.un.org/unispal.nsf/0/5bff833964edb9bf85256ced00673d1f?OpenDocument
Now--if you want to argue that Faisal had no right to do so because there was no "popular vote" ( and free democratic voting/elections are still a rarity in the arab world) then you also have to view Saudi Arabia and Jordan as similarly "illegitimate"--because there was NO popular vote on creating those nations either.
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Aussieposter
And so it begins
11:15 PM on 07/20/2011
http://dom­ino.un.org­/unispal.n­sf/0/5bff8­33964edb9b­f85256ced0­0673d1f?Op­enDocument

"His Royal Highness the Amir FAISAL, representing and acting on behalf of the Arab Kingdom of HEJAZ, and Dr. CHAIM WE1ZMANN, representing and acting on behalf of the Zionist Organisation, mindful of the racial kindship and ancient bonds existing between the Arabs and the Jewish people, and realising that the surest means of working out the consummation of their national aspirations, is through the closest possible, collaboration in the development of the Arab State and Palestine, and being desirous further of confirming the good understanding which exists between them, have agreed upon the following Articles: "

Simply I would suggest that the king of Hejaz, cannot speak for the Palestinians

Jordan argued for Jordan and Saudi Arabia Argued for Saudia Arabia. Could you point out a Palestinian representative who attended Versaille.

In Iraq Elections were held and independence claimed. This was ignored by Britian who used military force.
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meb1357
Remember Kafr Qasim
08:29 PM on 07/20/2011
Hot off the press. Israeli genral Avi Mizrahi, calls settler action "terrorism":
"What's happening in the field is terrorism," General Mizrahi told Channel 2's Meet the Press, and it "needs to be dealt with." The Israel Defence Forces (IDF), he said, fears "terrorism against Palestinians is likely to ignite the territories."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/jewish-settlers-are-terroris...
I guess they will be locked up for life in Israeli prisons....
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
02:38 AM on 07/21/2011
meb1357 -- The UK Guardian is a documented anti-Israel that will and does lift words out of a context and lie without a shame, like most UK tabloids....
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Flying Dutchman
Don't judge what you don't yet understand
07:52 AM on 07/21/2011
Dude, you're really paranoid. I guess it's the trauma passed over generations speaking, isn't it?
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meb1357
Remember Kafr Qasim
09:07 AM on 07/21/2011
Thanks for the feedback about the Guardian, but if you check, the article I referenced was from the Independent.
As an aside, I suppose you feel the 99% of the press that is not Zionist controlled, (i.e., not owned by Murdoch, Zuckerman, etc.,) are "documented anti-Israel".
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dim
one in a can
07:14 PM on 07/20/2011
Barghouti is lucky Israel is more civilized than Texas. It would have been a needle in the arm at Huntsville around here. No calling for protests from the grave.
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meb1357
Remember Kafr Qasim
08:19 PM on 07/20/2011
I can't help but wonder about your moniker...
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dim
one in a can
09:15 PM on 07/20/2011
Take a number.
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BcemXAHA
Yerushalaim shel zahav
03:29 PM on 07/21/2011
Nothing to add, so you attack the commentator, how usual for your lot.
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Relpo Miraculous
Psychobiological Anthropology
04:33 PM on 07/21/2011
Thanks to this very article, we now know that Barghouti would be elected Palestinian President in a landslide if Palestine were declared a state. This pretty much seals their fate, and those who support the Palestinians.

Palestine = Terrorist State.
06:32 PM on 07/20/2011
Apartheid state. For all of you who like to throw this phrase around, what do you do with a people who call for the destruction of your country, sho ot thousands of rock ets into your cities, commit hundreds of sui cide bombing, and have gone to war with you numerous times? What do you do.

Until the Pales recognize Israel's right to exist, there will never be peace in the region, period. Until the pales recognize Israel, Israel will never recognize their right to have a state of their own.

There is enough violence and blame to go around on both sides of this conflict. The real losers in this is the palestinian people, but their leadership cares nothing about them. But what can you expect from a leadership that convinces teenagers to strap ex plo sives to themselves and go out and blow themselves up to ki// a few innocent Israelis?
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meb1357
Remember Kafr Qasim
08:04 PM on 07/20/2011
"Apartheid state. For all of you who like to throw this phrase around, what do you do with a people who call for the destructio­n of your country, sho ot thousands of rock ets into your cities, commit hundreds of sui cide bombing, and have gone to war with you numerous times? What do you do."
Substitute "F-16" for "suicide", and you describe Israel pretty well.
So, what do you do?
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MelissaQuan
10:16 AM on 07/21/2011
"Substitute "F-16" for "suicide", and you describe Israel pretty well." No you don't.
Israel has never called for the destruction of any country. How many Jewish Israeli children have become suicide bombers? Israel has been forced to defend itself numerous times. The Israelis didn't want any of the wars forced on it.
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JoePenn
Shuhada?
09:02 PM on 07/20/2011
ah - fellar: dem dare rockets come from israeli hands, 99 percent of the time. Why do you think they land nowhere and hurt nobody 99.9 percent of the time?
Reality turned upside down.
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10:28 PM on 07/20/2011
"Hurt nobody?" The rockets launched by Palistinian militants have killed plenty of innocents and wounded hundreds more, including an infant. You need a "reality" check.
08:41 AM on 07/21/2011
What rubbish. Take a long hard look at yourself.
03:11 PM on 07/20/2011
another fat guy that wants fameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
09:05 PM on 07/20/2011
People who, things that! Just saying, might help to use proper language when trying,in vain, to sound witty!
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Cynthia Rays
peace in the valley seeker
02:47 PM on 07/20/2011
Israel is being seen as an apartheid state even by Jewish leaders in other countries.
"Mick Davis, chairman of the UJIA and executive of the Jewish Leadership Council, warned in front of more than 160 people at the London Jewish Cultural Center that Israel could become an apartheid stateunless there was a two-state solution with the Palestinians, "because we then have the majority going to be governed by the minority".
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/diaspora/u-k-jewish-leader-s-rebuke-of-netanyahu-sparks-ire-of-british-zionists-1.326586
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Vlady
Better Late
04:23 PM on 07/20/2011
>>Israel is being seen as an apartheid state even by Jewish leaders in other countries

First of all Jimmy Carter is not Jewish and second there aren't Jews "in other countries" such as Saudi Arabia and Afganistan.
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JoePenn
Shuhada?
09:05 PM on 07/20/2011
Bishop Desmond Tutu, famous South African Apartheid killer, called the Palestinian territories WORSE off than Apartheid S.A. And so, where is Amnesty Int'l? Where's "little steven" and his artists against Apartheid? Where are you, Bono-face?
He's too famous to be 'gotten rid of' (Tutu, that is), so instead, the 'media' and the heroes names above just ignore him and carry on with their fake outrage at other things.
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Aussieposter
And so it begins
10:27 PM on 07/20/2011
1 Israel 5,703,700 42.5%
2 United States 5,275,000 39.3%
3 France 483,500 3.6%
4 Canada 375,000 2.8%
5 United Kingdom 292,000 2.2%
6 Russia 205,000 1.5%
7 Argentina 182,300 1.4%
8 Germany 119,000 0.9%
9 Australia 107,500 0.8%
10 Brazil 95,600 0.7%
11 Ukraine 71,500 0.5%
12 South Africa 70,800 0.5%
13 Hungary 48,600 0.4%
14 Mexico 39,400 0.3%
15 Belgium 30,300 0.2%

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewpop.html

57.5% of the world Jewish population live in countries other than Israel. That number would be further increased when you consider the number of Jewish American with dual Citizenship that only spend part of their time in Israel.

And Cynthia Rays did not mention Jimmy Carter.

In fact there are more Jews in other coutries.
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gingershot
One man, one vote, from the river to the sea
04:27 PM on 07/20/2011
Israel is seen as an Apartheid state by unanimous affirmation by the Israeli leadership themselves.

That's why the silly stance that Israeli apologists try to push is so utterly ridiculous and backwards - can't they read Israeli papers?

Don't they realize that the Israeli leadership agrees with me that Israel is an Apartheid state – and that when they pretend to argue to the contrary that they are arguing not only against me but against the Israeli high command as well? Are they just Israel-haters or something?

It's pretty amazing to realize that the apologists are arguing against what the entire Israeli leadership already knows to be true and is on record as stating – what are they doing here? - just pushing sloppy hasbara that they can’t even keep straight?

Shimon Peres, President of Israel, agrees with this:
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/peres-warns-israel-in-danger-of-ceasing-to-exist-as-jewish-state-1.368132

Barak warns against Israeli Apartheid:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/03/barak-apartheid-palestine-peace

Netanyahu alludes to it:
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-israel-needs-to-separate-from-the-palestinians-1.368795

Olmert warns of it:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/olmert-to-haaretz-two-state-solution-or-israel-is-done-for-1.234201

Sharon says Apartheid is a good idea:
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/people-and-politics-sharon-s-bantustans-are-far-from-copenhagen-s-hope-1.10275
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60699
11:58 AM on 07/21/2011
Did you even read your own links? Not one leader is quoted as saying "Israel is an apartheid State." The closest you get is, someone said in a private conversation years ago, that no one else can corroborate, .......... It is admirable that you did the research, but the quotes you claim are there, simply don't exist.
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BcemXAHA
Yerushalaim shel zahav
04:00 PM on 07/21/2011
Do you just come up with random links? do you bother reading them?

How embarrassing for you.
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Ryan Magdangal
Pirate Satellite
02:28 PM on 07/20/2011
Self determination for all!
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Vlady
Better Late
03:18 PM on 07/20/2011
... peaceful people recognizing Israel as a Jewish state.
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Sonic hedgehog
A true word needs no oath
04:00 PM on 07/20/2011
Also USA as a christian state, Turkey as an Islamic state, China as a Buddhist state, India as a Hindu state and California as a scientology state. No need for secularism for peaceful people!
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BcemXAHA
Yerushalaim shel zahav
04:00 PM on 07/21/2011
Peace for all is better.
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maui ono
02:13 PM on 07/20/2011
Mandela - (founder of the fighters against the Apartheid state called "The Spear of the Nation") explains himself and why he, undoubtably like Marwan Barghouti fighting against the Israeli Apartheid state, felt that armed struggle was necessary

The parallels to the fight against the violent Israeli occupation are so strikingly obvious that the language is interchangeable. Israel is an even worse Apartheid state than SA

Mandela: "Firstly, we believed that as a result of Government policy, violence by the African people had become inevitable, and that unless responsible leadership was given to canalize and control the feelings of our people, there would be outbreaks of terrorism which would produce an intensity of bitterness and hostility between the various races of this country which is not produced even by war.
Secondly, we felt that without violence there would be no way open to the African people to succeed in their struggle against the principle of white supremacy.

All lawful modes of expressing opposition to this principle had been closed by legislation, and we were placed in a position in which we had either to accept a permanent state of inferiority, or to defy the Government. We chose to defy the law. We first broke the law in a way which avoided any recourse to violence; when this form was legislated against ... and the Gov resorted to a show of force to crush opposition to its policies, only then did we decide to answer violence with violence
01:33 PM on 07/22/2011
Exceeds wordcount. Is off topic.
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madsen26
02:09 PM on 07/20/2011
Marwan Barghouti is basically correct in assessing that the next wave of the Arab spring will happen on the West Bank. It will. What won't happen is any charade of negotiations conducted with a single agenda by Washington. Those days are very over. Today's "terrorist" in certain sectors of the western media and their funders, is tomorrow's hero and leader. By imprisoning Barghouti and others, Israel just makes clear its exact identity as an apartheid, racist state based on religious fanaticism and exceptionalism.

Long live the righteous struggle of the Palestinian People! Onward to a huge victory on the world stage in September!
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h111aryc1inton
Just trying to tell the truth
03:48 PM on 07/20/2011
Wait - did you not read who Marwan Bargouti was or do you not care? He isn't serving 5 life sentences for protesting the occupation of the disputed territories. He is serving 5 life sentences for taking young Palestinian men and women and sending them to murder innocent women and children.

If you are aware of this and still think that this is a guy that should be tomorrow's hero and leader then I have to assume you are a big fan of 9/11 also.
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madsen26
10:54 PM on 07/20/2011
Wait - did you not read what I said before? "What won't happen is any charade of negotiatio­ns conducted with a single agenda by Washington­."

That's all I care about. He can stay in prison and be a very useful martyr figure there too.
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Talossa
Not all liberals are silly.
03:42 PM on 07/21/2011
? شعب واحد! أمة واحدة! قائد واحد!
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madsen26
05:48 PM on 07/21/2011
Does that translate to your tag line of "Not all liberals believe in human rights"?