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DADT Repeal Certification Announcement From Obama, Leon Panetta Issued Friday

Dadt Repeal Certification

LOLITA C. BALDOR and ERICA WERNER   07/23/11 12:08 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — The ban on gays in the military has stood for nearly a century.

In 60 days, after decades of discharges, lawsuits and lobbying, that will change.

On Friday, President Barack Obama fulfilled a 2008 campaign pledge, formally ending the ban. After meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Adm. Mike Mullen, the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, the president certified to Congress that repealing the ban would not jeopardize the military's ability to fight.

"As commander in chief, I have always been confident that our dedicated men and women in uniform would transition to a new policy in an orderly manner that preserves unit cohesion, recruitment, retention and military effectiveness," Obama said in a statement. "Service members will no longer be forced to hide who they are in order to serve our country."

Friday's milestone was expected to be reached under the repeal law Congress passed in December. But homosexuality has been prohibited in the military since World War I, and for years recruits were screened and questioned about their sexual orientation.

Then-President Bill Clinton relaxed the law a bit in 1993, saying the military could not ask if service members were gay. Gay service members could be discharged only if their sexual orientation became known. That became known as "don't ask, don't tell."

Obama's action means that effective Sept. 20, gay service members will be able to openly acknowledge their sexual orientation. And it opens the door for those discharged over the past 17 years under Clinton's policy to re-apply to the military and possibly serve again.

Jeremy Johnson intends to do just that. The former sailor served for 10 years in the Navy before coming out to his commanding officer in 2007.

Johnson, who has been working with a recruiter for months to return to the service, said he was initially bitter about leaving the Navy. Now, he said, "I'm very excited. I think it's going to benefit a lot of people ... It's been a full roller coaster ride for me."

For Zoe Dunning, Obama's decision was the culmination of a nearly two-decade struggle. The retired U.S. Navy commander won a legal battle to stay in the service after coming out as a lesbian in January 1993. More than 13 years and two promotions later she retired in 2007.

"The day-to-day life of the military will not change," Dunning said in a phone interview from California on Friday. "However, it will change significantly for gay, lesbian and bisexual service members, who no longer have to live in fear that this day may be the day they get fired or investigated."

At Camp Pendleton, Calif., Marine Cpl. Jaime Rincon, 21, said, "No one has to be scared anymore of who they are. We can serve our country and not worry about repercussions."

Rincon, on active duty, said he was heading out with a group of military friends to celebrate.

Repeal of the ban got mixed reviews from Congress, which has been bitterly divided on the issue.

Senate Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., hailed it as the end of a discriminatory policy.

"Gay and lesbian service members have fought and died for our country and are serving in our military now," said Levin, noting that the policy has required them to conceal their sexual orientation. "There is no way to justify a policy that requires our young men and women in uniform to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens."

But House Armed Services Committee Chairman Howard P. "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif., criticized the action as flawed and said his panel will vigorously oversee the process as it unfolds.

"I am disappointed the president hasn't properly addressed the concerns expressed by military service chiefs before certifying the repeal," said McKeon. "Their worry that the combat readiness of our force could be placed at risk, particularly those serving on the front lines in Afghanistan and Iraq, must be taken seriously."

Advocacy groups that fought for the change called Friday's decision long-overdue, while opponents said it's a political payoff to left-leaning gay and lesbian activists.

Among military leaders there was initial reluctance from those who worried that repeal could cause a backlash and erode troop cohesion on the battlefield.

But two weeks ago, after reviewing the training of nearly 2 million troops, the chiefs of the military services told Panetta that ending the ban would not affect military readiness. On Friday, officials said they will continue to monitor the process and makes changes as needed.

Pentagon officials said Friday that they will review military policies and benefits during the next 60 days to iron out legal and technical details, including how the repeal will affect housing, military transfers and other health and social benefits.

Clifford Stanley, undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, said "there will be zero tolerance for harassment, violence or discrimination of any kind."

In most cases, officials said the guidelines require that gays and lesbians be treated like any other member of the military, and the Pentagon will not set up separate barracks or bathroom facilities based on sexual orientation.

There will be differences, however. Same sex partners will not get the same housing and other benefits as married couples. Instead, they are more likely to be treated like unmarried couples.

Service members may also designate their same-sex partners as beneficiaries for insurance and other benefits – something they may have avoided earlier for fear it would cause their dismissal.

One of the thornier issues is gay marriage.

An initial move by the Navy earlier this year to train chaplains about same-sex civil unions in states where they are legal was shelved after more than five dozen Congress members objected. The Pentagon says the issue is still under review.

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Associated Press writers Amanda Barrett in New York, Brian Witte in Annapolis, Md., Julie Watson in San Diego and Sagar Meghani in Washington, contributed to this report.

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WASHINGTON — The ban on gays in the military has stood for nearly a century. In 60 days, after decades of discharges, lawsuits and lobbying, that will change.
WASHINGTON — The ban on gays in the military has stood for nearly a century. In 60 days, after decades of discharges, lawsuits and lobbying, that will change.
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joeyfoto
“Écraser l'infamie!”
12:07 AM on 07/30/2011
But House Armed Services Committee Chairman Howard P. "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif., criticized the action as flawed and said his panel will vigorously oversee the process as it unfolds. "I am disappointed the president hasn't properly addressed the concerns expressed by military service chiefs before certifying the repeal," said McKeon. "Their worry that the combat readiness of our force could be placed at risk, particularly those serving on the front lines in Afghanistan and Iraq, must be taken seriously."
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That is what Republicans are good at... selling fear to cowards.
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mountainman71
12:23 AM on 07/26/2011
That gay couple that I've never met who live in the town I've never been to are putting my marriage at risk!
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Mistinguette Grandison
No. Corporations are NOT people
02:38 PM on 07/24/2011
Tank you, Mr. President. One step forward towards being a more Perfect Union.
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eden4barack08
Grt minds discuss ideas..small minds discuss ppl
05:49 AM on 07/24/2011
CHANGE we can believe in? You betcha!!
02:15 AM on 07/24/2011
It's my honest hope that after years of policies like these being enacted with great difficulty, the general public will be exposed to gay people long enough for most people to realize that treating them as second class citizens is not at all ethical.

As far as the military is concerned, I sincerely doubt that most people who have spent years training, serving during multiple campaigns, etc... are vain enough to favor excluding others purely upon the merit of their sexual orientation. I'll admit that I have no military experience, but this issue is less a military issue than it is a moral issue. The military is not a Boy Scout retreat. You don't get to exclude people from public service just because their lifestyle is different than yours. We don't disallow atheists from serving, and we shouldn't disallow gay people either.
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duckpuddle
Coexist, it's easier.
02:51 PM on 07/26/2011
Right the military is better than the boy scouts. You are not allowed to be gay in the boy scouts, but in the military it will soon be allowed.

This is a moral issue. Soldiering should be about soldiering, not sexual orientation.
11:55 PM on 07/23/2011
Aww, game over, haters.

Oh, to be a fly on the wall in the Donnelly household right now.

Priceless.
11:17 PM on 07/23/2011
Another point, where does it say that we have to be like all the other nations on this planet? I mean if you like and enjoy visiting Australia, New Zeland, Isreal and all of the nations of western Europe then maybe many of you liberals should consider moving to those naitons.
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valkygrrl
Hail Eris
06:10 AM on 07/24/2011
Why should we leave our homes if you have a problem? We work to make changes, to make the society around us more open and accepting. We don't run away just because reactionaries throw up roadblocks.

However if you're so upset that you choose to leave I for one won't miss you.
11:07 PM on 07/23/2011
It sounds like the homosexuals are pushing to be a protected classification within both the nations armed forces and within our civil society.
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Mistinguette Grandison
No. Corporations are NOT people
10:31 AM on 07/24/2011
Of curse. It sounds like they are also pushing to be treated as full citizens like they should.
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mountainman71
12:40 AM on 07/26/2011
Yeah, next thing you know they'll want to be treated equally in all aspects of life, and you know you can't have that!
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Beebopaloula
She's MY baby.
10:58 PM on 07/23/2011
It's about time. Any American should be allowed to serve and die for their country, regardless of his/her sexual orientation.

For the first time since he became President, I can say 'Good Job President Obama'.
10:12 PM on 07/23/2011
Golly! Shazam! Sgt Carter!
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Mistinguette Grandison
No. Corporations are NOT people
10:32 AM on 07/24/2011
What is with the Carter references? More like Truman I'd say.
11:30 AM on 07/24/2011
I am 57 , the show was Gomer Pyle USMC- Jim Nabors was a gay guy playing the role of a private, his DI was called Sgt Carter.n There is a little irony in this thats all. Hope this helps.
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Beebopaloula
She's MY baby.
09:52 PM on 07/23/2011
It's about damned time. Any American should be able to fight and die with respect, regardless of sexual orientation.
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cindyfromfalls
progressive disappointed with the dems
09:24 PM on 07/23/2011
those in favor....the Democrats
those opposed....the republicans

enough said
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valkygrrl
Hail Eris
06:11 AM on 07/24/2011
Well a few republicans crossed the aisle and helped with the repeal. I think we should acknowledge that they aren't all bad, just most of them.
11:10 PM on 08/13/2011
I'm a Republican and I've always believed that we were ALL CREATED WITH INALIENABLE RIGHTS, THAT ALL MEN WERE CREATED EQUAL. We can't pick and choose what makes us equal. We are ALL EQUAL not based on our religious practices or our sexual orientations. We are ALL EQUAL because we are all human. We all have the right to own our own land, and to pursue our own happiness without any religious NUTS deciding for us what is right and what is wrong. I've never understood AS A REPUBLICAN...how loving another human being (regardless of their gender) could be so wrong and be the cause of so much derision. Jesus taught us to LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, but it seems all my other Republican friends just want to Hate, Hate, Hate.
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Intelligenti Pauca
Be Seeing You
09:19 PM on 07/23/2011
I see people on this thread talking about different reasons why repealing DADT is a bad idea. It's clearly apparent that a number of them have never served in the military themselves­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­. For those people, I have a suggestion­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­. If you haven't joined the military & served your country, then you have no right to tell the people risking their lives how they have to live & what they can or can't talk about. It's as simple as that.

You people sit there in the comfort of your homes & have the gall to judge soldiers who lay their lives on the line for you, thereby insuring you the freedom to live as YOU want to, but you've never actually served your country yourself. You people disgust me.

Speaking as a happily married heterosexu­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­a­­l male, who has also served in the military, I can say with all honesty that I would rather fight alongside a whole platoon of openly gay soldiers, than I would a whole battalion of you people who seem to be more concerned with if a soldier is gay, whether or not they are talking about it & if they're going to hit on you.
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joecan1
30 years working in mining 20 undergrou
10:45 PM on 07/23/2011
Very well said. And as a former Marine I agree 100% F/F
10:54 AM on 07/24/2011
Well said.
09:11 PM on 07/23/2011
Needs all the votes he can get.
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valkygrrl
Hail Eris
06:14 AM on 07/24/2011
I would think anyone who holds office or is running for office would want all the votes they can get. When your goal is to serve the people it helps to have people who want you in the job.
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Mistinguette Grandison
No. Corporations are NOT people
10:33 AM on 07/24/2011
More like he needs to just do the right thing.
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joeyfoto
“Écraser l'infamie!”
08:49 PM on 07/23/2011
In 1993, GAO issued a revealing report entitled: "HOMOSEXUALS IN THE MILITARY Policies and Practices of Foreign Countries."

= http://dont.stanford.edu/regulations/GAO.pdf

My favorite quote is from the section on ISRAEL:
"We attempted to identify organizations that oppose homosexuals in the Israeli military, but were told by several sources, including U.S. embassy officials, that there were none."

This is an important advance for civil rights in America, but, it must be noted that this correction took place only after a very embarrassing delay of decades to placate the delusions of religious bigots. Talk about "leading from behind?" That is where American generally comes from, on civil rights. That's sad.