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Laid Off On Wall Street: Lowest-Paid Workers Losing Jobs


First Posted: 07/22/11 06:59 AM ET Updated: 09/21/11 06:12 AM ET

NEW YORK -- Layoffs have returned to Wall Street as investment banks bemoaning economic malaise and disappointing revenues are moving to pare their payrolls, by far their largest expense.

Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley have announced plans to eliminate hundreds of employees, UBS and Credit Suisse are reportedly preparing to cut thousands of jobs and Barclays Capital has already imposed two rounds of layoffs this year.

But as banks again resort to pink slips, they appear inclined to spare the most generously compensated executives -- the people who enjoyed the biggest gains from the bubble in mortgage-related investments that savaged the economy -- while instead dismissing less-expensive employees.

"Wall Street is a cutthroat business. That's how the capital market system works," said Sung Won Sohn, a former Wells Fargo chief economist who is now a finance professor at California State University Channel Islands. "The more seasoned, experienced, higher-paid people have a lot more connections and contacts. That is very, very valuable. Whereas junior, younger people are more replaceable."

In June, Barclays Capital cut employees, including first-year analysts who had been hired last year out of college to work in the New York investment banking division, a person familiar with the situation told The Huffington Post. Morgan Stanley released plans earlier this year to lay off up to 300 workers in its retail brokerage, including trainees. At Goldman Sachs, employees losing their jobs will include "junior people," the firm's chief financial officer said during a conference call this week.

But being seasoned doesn't provide a job guarantee, either. In the end, the decision comes down to the company's bottom line, and whether an employee is capable of fattening it.

"Length of time at the firm doesn't matter, it doesn't help you," said Kim Woodle, 54, who was laid off from his job as a computer programmer at Morgan Stanley in 2009, in the midst of the Great Recession.

He had been working there for almost a decade, but his total pay, including bonus and benefits, was below average, reaching about $180,000 in 2008, he said. The average Morgan Stanley employee that year made over $265,000, according to a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

"I'd gotten good performance reviews for nine years," Woodle said. "And people who'd been there less kept their jobs."

Woodle is still out of work, he said. Like many workers who lose their jobs in middle age, he said he feels like he's competing with recent college graduates, who will work for less pay. He had planned to retire at 65, he said. But now, as he subsists on disability payments and his wife's income, retirement plans have been called into doubt.

A spokeswoman for Morgan Stanley declined to comment on Woodle's case.

By many accounts, thousands more Wall Street employees are about to suffer the bewildering experience of losing their jobs. Banks are complaining of a slump in trading volume, a point reinforced this week when titan Goldman Sachs announced tepid second-quarter earnings.

At Goldman, revenue from trading bonds, commodities and currencies dropped by more than half in the second quarter. The numbers had prominent analysts openly wondering whether the most profitable investment bank in Wall Street history had lost its magic. David Viniar, the firm's chief financial officer, said during a conference call Tuesday that he wouldn't "sugar coat" the results, explaining that the company might have "made a bad decision in taking too little risk."

Goldman now plans to cut 1,000 jobs. Viniar said during the call that those cuts would include "some more senior, some more junior people."

The firm isn't alone. The Swiss investment bank UBS is preparing to cut 5,000 jobs, according to a report by a Swiss newspaper last week. Its rival Credit Suisse plans to cut at least 1,500 jobs, the Wall Street Journal reported. Morgan Stanley is considering laying off "several thousand" people, Fox Business reported last week. (The Morgan Stanley spokeswoman said the firm is "not considering any large-scale firm-wide layoffs at this time.")

The recent layoffs at Barclays, the British investment bank that bought a smoldering piece of the wrecked Lehman Brothers in 2008, followed a round of dismissals in January, according to various reports at the time.

The first-year analysts at Barclays who were laid off in June could otherwise have graduated to second-year status in July, meriting a pay bump, the person familiar with the situation said. A typical base salary for a Barclays first-year analyst is $70,000, this person said.

A spokeswoman for Barclays declined to comment.

Employees at several investment banks said Wall Street layoffs can appear to follow a rule that's familiar to any police officer, firefighter or teacher who's borne the brunt of municipal cutbacks: last hired, first fired. With top executives still hauling down salaries and bonuses that reach well into seven figures, some bank employees expressed bewilderment that the greenest -- and cheapest -- hires were being let go.

"A decent IT project is tens of millions of dollars. If you fire every analyst out there, it doesn't add up to one IT project," said an executive at one of the nation's biggest banks. "It doesn't save that much money."

For the people actually losing the jobs, the result can be a profound crisis.

"We'll get panicked calls," this executive continued. "Somebody's friend or classmate will call up and say, 'I lost my job, I don't even know where to start, can you help me out?' That happens all the time."

One 20-year Wall Street veteran, who works at an investment bank planning cost-cutting measures, said new employees are vulnerable to cuts precisely because they're new, and haven't yet developed a network of friends in the firm.

"There's always a ripple effect of people being bummed out when somebody gets laid off," he said. "Even if a person is good, if they've only been at a place for a year or so, they just haven't developed this web of internal connections that helps protect you in a situation like this."

He added that the layoff process isn't scientific.

"It's a subjective call. It really is," he said. "You just know there are going to be some people that are let go that shouldn't be."

The round of job cuts has some observers drawing comparisons to the period immediately following the financial crisis, when Wall Street firms laid off sizable percentages of their workforces. The number of people employed in financial activities in New York City dropped by more than 7 percent between September 2008 and 2009, the year after the crisis struck, state data show.

In the wake of a $700 billion taxpayer bailout, as Wall Street compensation came under scrutiny, firms reduced bonuses for employees -- but also boosted base salaries. Those fixed costs have made banks less flexible when hard times strike, experts say. Now, with trading activity anemic, those banks are scrounging around for savings.

"If you're eliminating the lowest x percent, you have more to spend on the top x percent. That is just a natural thing," said Wendi Lazar, a partner at the law firm Outten & Golden, where she co-runs the transactional practice group.

"We saw it with Lehman and Bear -- there was an enormous amount of house-cleaning," said Lazar, who represents financial executives. "It's an opportunity to get rid of people who are not at the top of the food chain."

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NEW YORK -- Layoffs have returned to Wall Street as investment banks bemoaning economic malaise and disappointing revenues are moving to pare their payrolls, by far their largest expense. Goldman S...
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08:24 PM on 07/26/2011
Predator Capitalism is now degenerating into Cannibal Capitalism.
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05:23 PM on 07/26/2011
Living the dream
07:47 AM on 07/26/2011
Are we supposed to feel sympathy for Wall St?
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2Patriotic4U
IN GOD WE TRUST!
03:56 AM on 08/04/2011
I feel sorry for anyone that loses their job. I don't feel sorry for the freeloading Liberals that want everyone to pay more income taxes, except them, to provide more and more benefits for those to lazy to work.
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Mister Grumpy
An Angry American
10:43 AM on 07/25/2011
If you're in your fifties, and you lose your job, the only reality is that you're screwed............
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mjc
Avoid printing any..
09:46 AM on 07/25/2011
Since when does job performance in ANY firm depend on the "friends" in that firm a new hire has!!
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2Patriotic4U
IN GOD WE TRUST!
03:57 AM on 08/04/2011
Ever look at the teachers unions?
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mjc
Avoid printing any..
09:36 AM on 08/06/2011
Yes. Used to belong to one, but your comment...like the ones above...make me believe that you aren't willing to allow ANY worker, teacher, plumber...whatever, to organize for better pay and benefits. And still the job performance of a teacher isn't dependent upon who the teacher knows or whether the superintendent is a "friend" or not. You have no respect for anyone except those in your class or your immediate environment.
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deckercat
change the world
09:09 AM on 07/25/2011
great. wall street needs to concentrate the wealth to the top crooks. maybe the 2% can be cut down to .5%. spread the misery.
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bradenton
08:55 AM on 07/25/2011
It's another blow to the Middle Class by our "owners".
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fairandbalanced100
04:58 PM on 07/24/2011
The big Wall Street businesses keep laying off the lower level lower paying jobs , but keep
the overpaid bigwigs that make the big mistakes & keep them them big bonuses for foing
a lousy job, instead of firing them. We should stop bailing them out if they keep making
dumb mistakes .
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2Patriotic4U
IN GOD WE TRUST!
03:58 AM on 08/04/2011
And, stop bailing out the union pension funds.
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tlcpro
Work is not work when you love what you do.
07:30 AM on 07/24/2011
They lay off the hourly employees so that the salaried employees can keep their jobs.
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Lolie Culley
06:59 AM on 07/24/2011
I don't feel sorry for Wall Street, it doesn't matter who they are. They have been part of the fraud and corruption in our country. Karma Works.
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Fi
A Gluten-Free life!
04:36 AM on 07/24/2011
Millionaires 1st
Multi-millionaires 2nd
Billionaires 3rd.
danceswithdata
What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?
12:49 AM on 07/24/2011
I wish someone could come forward with a real, workable plan that would create the jobs we so desperately need. Why doesn't the president and Congress create a WPA program similar to FDR's that helped toward pulling the country out of the Great Depression? As time goes by more and more people would jump at the opportunity to earn a decent pay check. The government is no stranger to being one of the world's biggest lending institutions via the student loan industry. Why not use those profits, for a short period of time to pay some of these people to clean up the mess that our roads, bridges, buildings, etc are in? There is so much deterioration in these structures that needs fixing -- why not? I realize as I write this that most people will greet my remarks with a lot of scorn and contempt, but I am now so beyond caring about that -- I just want to see what almost everyone in the middle classes wants - a way to make a decent living and good lives for themselves and their families. I know, no Wall Street seal of approval on that one!
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tlcpro
Work is not work when you love what you do.
07:31 AM on 07/24/2011
Right On!
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fairandbalanced100
05:04 PM on 07/24/2011
They did spend billions to hire workers for for projects as part of Stimulus, but that is over.
Some Democrats want to do more projects to fix broken bridges , roads & buildings , but
many of the Republicans are against it because deficit is high & they don't want to create
jobs while Obama is president , which is un-American & partisan.
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tresluv
10:50 PM on 07/23/2011
Is anyone really surprised by this? The unemployment problem is now creeping up the income bracket (the fired employee who made 180K a year and still hasn't found another job).
When no one but the rich can still afford to purchase anything except food, maybe then the top 5% will notice that trickle down doesn't work.
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tlcpro
Work is not work when you love what you do.
07:32 AM on 07/24/2011
Nah.
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10:05 PM on 07/23/2011
With the lay-off's I guess interns will have more to do. It can be a great learning experience.
08:46 AM on 07/24/2011
Exactly what will they be learning ???

Insider trading 101
Bribery 101
How to shaft the world economy 101
How to bundle mortgages and make them worthless 101
How to foreclose illegally and pay a small fine 101
How to launder drug money and pay a small fine 101
How to bribe credit agencies for optimal illegal ratings 101

The Federal Reserve is a criminal enterprise
Wall Street is a criminal enterprise
Global banks are criminal enterprises
08:27 PM on 07/23/2011
Here I am, thinking that by keeping personal income taxes low for the wealthiest Americans, they'd see to it that the workforce would increase. My bad. As for the 54 year old who finds himself seeking work while competing against younger and cheaper people, he is one among many. Meantime, Congress wants to RAISE the eligibility age for Social Security. Gotta love how the GOP looks out for the interests of working people, er, those making over a million a year, that is.
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fairandbalanced100
05:07 PM on 07/24/2011
Yea , the GOP only cares about helping the rich getting richer at the expense of the
rest of us. The GOP wants to keep low taxes & loopholes for the rich , which causes
big deficit & then wants to cut social security & medicare & medicaid & welfare &
education to pay for it , which is selfish & bad for economy.