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Credit Rating Agencies Spend $1.76 Million Lobbying Over Regulations

Credit Raters Lobby

STEPHEN BRAUN   08/ 1/11 04:09 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — The three major credit rating companies poised to decide whether to downgrade the nation's top-ranked debt standing are at the same time spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to lobby the Obama administration and Congress over the way the government regulates them.

Moody's, Fitch Ratings and Standard & Poor's, along with S & P's parent company, McGraw-Hill, have spent a combined $1.76 million since January to lobby Congress and federal agencies, much of it aimed at new regulations. The rules are part of the massive Dodd-Frank overhaul of the financial industry that Congress passed last year, and federal agencies are still midway through rewriting many regulations to conform to the new law.

Even as the rating companies lobbied, they have repeatedly warned that a failure by the White House and Congress to raise the nation's $14.3 trillion debt ceiling could force them to lower the high-level AAA ratings that U.S. Treasury bonds have long held. Even with a tentative deal to avert default within reach, rating analysts could still slash U.S. credit values if they are dissatisfied with the details, a move that could shake the financial system.

Critics worry about the potential for conflicts of interest posed by the firms' dual lobbying and rating roles. "It's pretty obvious that the current system is imperfect and has conflicts of interest built in," said David Dapice, an associate professor of economics at Tufts University. Dapice said he is skeptical that recent government reforms aimed at the industry will be effective.

The three firms are the main movers of the rating industry, long relied on by investors and governments to evaluate the credit of businesses and nations. For decades, the companies routinely gave the U.S. the highest debt rating, but their sudden hesitance has thrust the agencies front and center into the midst of the default crisis.

Any downgrade of U.S. credit could spur a mass sale of Treasury bonds and undercut the government's ability to inexpensively fund its operations. That fear, critics warn, should not be on the minds of federal officials as they make decisions on how to regulate the ratings industry.

Rating industry officials and lobbyists counter that the companies are exercising their right to weigh in on a wave of legislation targeting them in recent years – first, for failing to warn about the 2001 collapse of the Enron energy company and then for missing mortgage banking abuses that led to the deep 2008 recession. Executives also say that strong internal reviews and firewalls ensure the soundness of their ratings and insulate their analysts from their Washington dealings.

None of the lobbying firms would discuss their work, but one top lobbyist working for Moody's dismissed the notion that rating agencies' pending decisions on U.S. credit would bleed into their dealings with the government. "You have to operate on the premise that over time, the accuracy of their evaluations will show that the process is above board," said Vic Fazio, a former California congressman and a senior lobbyist at Washington-based Akin-Gump.

In testimony last week to a House committee, senior executives from S& P and Moody's said their rating decisions are buttressed by the growing use of internal review panels, conflict-of-interest scrutiny and rotation of analysts. Deven Sharma, S&P's president, noted the firm's "added checks and balances," while senior Moody's executive Michael Rowan touted his company's "bolstering measures to mitigate conflicts of interest."

Moody's would not comment on its lobbying, but McGraw Hill, S&P's parent, and Fitch both assured that their internal corporate walls prevent any conflicts. "There is a strict firewall that separates the two. Always has been, always will be," said McGraw-Hill spokeswoman Patti Rockenwagner. Daniel Noonan, a Fitch spokesman, said his firm "sometimes utilizes lobbyists, but such corporate matters are completely separate from and have zero influence upon our analytical groups that assign ratings."

Some former industry officials have questioned whether those internal measures are effective. In testimony to the House Oversight Committee in 2009, former Moody's Investors Service managing director Eric Kolchinsky said that compliance groups set up to deal with conflicts were often understaffed and inexperienced.

David Wyss, former chief economist at S&P and now a visiting fellow at Brown University, said his former firm tried hard to minimize conflicts. But "there's no way to have a complete firewall unless you keep people from reading the newspaper."

Federal lobbying records show lobbying by McGraw-Hill, Moody's and Fitch has grown steadily since the mid-2000s as their ratings operations have come under increasing federal scrutiny. In 2005, the three firms spent more than $2.1 million total on lobbying. By 2010, it was $3.6 million.

Much of the lobbying has been defensive. The Credit Rating Reform Act of 2006, passed in the wake of the Enron collapse, strengthened Securities and Exchange Commission authority over the companies' qualifications and records.

The firms were targeted again in 2009 by the Dodd-Frank bill, which created a new ratings oversight office within the SEC and ordered federal agencies to rewrite their rules to minimize the government's use of ratings. The SEC, Treasury, Internal Revenue, Federal Reserve and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation have all begun to move away from using the firms, but are still modifying their regulations, officials said. The Federal Reserve said last week it had identified 46 references to ratings companies in its regulations, but was still working on how it would reduce using the firms.

Both S&P and Moody's executives told Congress last week that their firms support removing such references. Still, as the rules are rewritten, lobbyists for the ratings firms are monitoring the process and at times, offering their own suggestions for rewrites.

Federal officials did not respond to requests for comment by phone and email about how agencies were handling rating firms' lobbying while the companies prepare to rule on U.S. credit.

In two quarterly Senate filings this year, S&P's lobbyists, Nappi & Hoppe LLC, reported its government contacts over the Dodd-Frank bill and listing meetings with unnamed Senate and House members and SEC officials. Douglas R. Nappi, a former Republican counsel with the Senate Banking Committee, declined to comment.

The firm was paid $90,000 by McGraw-Hill, S&P's parent firm – which also spent $600,000 on its own in-house lobbying on Dodd-Frank and other issues during the same period. The Podesta Group also lobbied over the Dodd-Frank legislation and other subjects for McGraw-Hill in the first six months of 2011.

The Podesta Group earned $240,000 for its work, which included contacts with Senate, House and Treasury officials. The group's director is Tony Podesta, a top D.C. lobbyist who co-founded the shop with his brother, former Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta.

Fitch's agents, Crossroads Strategies and KSCW Inc., were each paid $100,000 and $120,000 for lobbying the Senate and House over Dodd-Frank this year. Moody's Washington lobbying outfit, Akin-Gump, reported $610,000 in work on "financial market regulation," contacting unnamed Senate and House members in the first six months of 2011.

Kolchinsky has suggested an independent ratings board to set standards, similar to the strict regulation of accountants. Others say that more competition from smaller ratings firms would water down the big three's influence. Others have suggested a single firm might be selected randomly to rate the worth of U.S. bonds.

"It's hard to fault them for lobbying on what's good for their industry," said Thomas M. Susman, director of government affairs for the American Bar Association and a Washington lawyer who fought to block or change federal rules for clients. He said federal regulators need to take care that their oversight was not swayed by the rating firms' heightened role in the debt crisis.

"You have to hope for the best and stay vigilant," Susman said.

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moAb
"when bad men combine, the good must associate”
10:35 PM on 08/02/2011
Investigate the credit ratings agencies! They were co-conspirators in the subprime slime mortgage banking frauds that brought the economy to it's knees. They have not been held to account and yet they guaranteed the AAA ratings of absolute financial junk. And now they get to bandy about the AAA rating of the USA. Something is terribly wrong here!!
06:58 PM on 08/02/2011
'bleep' the credit raters and the parasite ways. WHO give them all this power in the first place?
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drleebrew
Humanity deserves the care of every human.
03:21 PM on 08/02/2011
I hate considering the unethical, but a little reminder to S&P that a downgrade of our AAA rating might lead to more red-tape and government scrutiny for the rest of their existence than they can even imagine . . . . No, that is not something I would consider.
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LizM
My micro-bio is too long for this space.
06:33 PM on 08/02/2011
Very, very nice!
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Skeetshooter
Artist, writer, provocateur
01:50 PM on 08/02/2011
To hell with these incredible bozos.
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01:23 PM on 08/02/2011
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce has written a letter to members of the House telling them that voting for federal contractors to be more transparent about their political spending will negatively impact their legislative scorecard.

Meanwhile, more than sixty members of the House signed a letter sent to the White House by Rep. Anna G. Eshoo (D-CA) which expressed strong support for a draft executive order which would require companies that get taxpayer dollars to disclose their political expenditures.

Disclosure, the letter says, "will not politicize the procurement process -- it will improve it."

"Political expenditures are already well-known to those that make them and to the officials who benefit," the letter states. "With disclosure, the public will have access to this information as well, allowing them to judge whether contracts were awarded based on merit. A meritorious procurement system is the only responsible use of taxpayer money, making this a deficit reduction effort as much as a campaign finance reform issue."
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cats530
16 Trillion To Banksters Per GAO Audit
12:37 PM on 08/02/2011
"Whatever S&P’s agenda, it has nothing to do with avoiding default risks or putting the US on sound fiscal footing. It appears to be intertwined with their attempts to absolve themselves from responsibility for their role in the 2008 financial crisis, and they are willing to manipulate not only the 2012 election but the world economy to escape the SEC’s attempts to regulate them.
It’s time the media and Congress started asking Standard and Poors what their political agenda is and whom it serves. Sign our petition to the SEC: Revoke S&P’s authority as a credit ratings agency for their use of ratings as a political weapon and their attempts to avoid responsibility for their role in the financial crisis of 2008."

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/07/is-standard-and-poor%e2%80%99s-manipulating-us-debt-rating-to-escape-liability-for-the-mortgage-crisis.html
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choco1996
tucson Az
11:56 AM on 08/02/2011
the same agencies that backed credit dfault swaps with AAA ratings..these people should be prosecuted not allowed to lobby..they worked hard to create our economic woes we are stuck with today...check out some of the deals Moody's gave AAA ratings..same for Standard and Poors they are in bed with wall street not independent of them
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cats530
16 Trillion To Banksters Per GAO Audit
12:38 PM on 08/02/2011
Right. Lobbying should be called what it REALLY is...BRIBERY.
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choco1996
tucson Az
02:05 PM on 08/02/2011
totally agree
09:38 AM on 08/02/2011
Prosecute the senior executives of these WALL-STREET-JIHADIST organizations!!!!
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
09:09 AM on 08/02/2011
Imagine what kind of justice we would have in this country if criminals were allowed to contribute to judges and district attorney's personal retirement funds. Get arrested and for a couple of thousand it all goes away.

That of course is silly but this is exactly what we put up with in our representatives. We hire people to represent our interests and we allow them to receive payments towards their job security, campaign contributions, from orgainization directly opposed to our interests.

NO body does business like that and yet business WANTS government to do business like that.
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BARRISTER
07:53 AM on 08/02/2011
The threats ofa possible downgrade by these thee RICO's is blackmail to Congress: either you quietly drop ANY regulation of us, or we downgrade the USA af you get fuzzed !! They badly need to be F.B.I'd
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
07:36 AM on 08/02/2011
If we regulate them, what does that mean when they get away with the massive fraud that they helped to perpetrate? I mean they RATED things TRIPLE AAA that should have been DDD....and I do not mean a bra size..... just because.......They should be sued out of business or nationalized.....
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frank1946
Tell the Truth
07:08 AM on 08/02/2011
Downgrade will cost America $ 1 Trillion in increased risk Premium (Interest Rate) and make
American DEBT Toxic to Institutions around the World.

Should have been included in DEBT DEAL reductions to avoid this penalty, it would have paid
for itself immediately ?

So why was it not done ? Bankers did not want it !
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
09:22 AM on 08/02/2011
If you were a large portfolio manager would you move your money over to Chinese government bonds? How about Russian Bonds?

Keep in mind that due to maintenance costs you can only really invest in large government bonds so where do you go? Many of these large block funds are pretty much dependent on the good old USA for their money.
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05:13 AM on 08/02/2011
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04:03 AM on 08/02/2011
After the credit rating people screwed up the Wall St. Me$$ so badly
at least 50-100 of them should be doing 10-20 years in prison,
as well as 1-200 Wall St. Crooks they directly or indirectly
helped.
03:47 AM on 08/02/2011
Sometimes something is soo close to you that you don't "see" it. I jsut had a "brain fart", and it hurt. Not just the Credit Rating Agencies, but thousands of "special interest" blocs throw hundreds of thousands of dollars at the Pols daily. Over the course of a year, I'm sure that tallies up to a nice chunk of change. Now, exactly WHERE does this money go to? If a Pol takes it himself, that is accepting a bribe. That's illegal. If the GOP or DNC takes it, isn't that also a bribe? And isn't that illegal? Couldn't this money (and I'm sure there's a lot more than we ever hear about) gotowards something useful? Say, like lowering the National Debt?
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
07:38 AM on 08/02/2011
and this is alll tax free money that the Kochs and Buffet and Gates are paying to BUY the politicians....and don't give me that crap about creating jobs with tax free money.....
08:17 AM on 08/02/2011
It is campaign contribution, which sadly is legal.. but when they retire they can take the rest with them.