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Debt Ceiling Deal Paves Way For Potentially Historic Lobbying Campaign

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First Posted: 08/01/11 01:03 PM ET Updated: 10/01/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The super committee established under the still-to-be-passed debt ceiling deal has been granted immense powers to make its recommendations law. But that doesn't mean grand bargain of sorts is summarily off the table, even if the 12 committee members get stuck or Congress ends up rejecting their suggestions.

According to the structure of the debt ceiling deal, lawmakers will have another year to find approximately $1.5 trillion in cuts through normal procedures, before so-called triggers go into effect to achieve those cuts on behalf of hesitant lawmakers.

"If the committee deadlocks or they put something out that doesn't pass Congress ... before the [trigger] hit they could pass another package of equal savings," said a White House official during a briefing on Sunday night. "So it puts pressure on people. The trigger is looming."

"Now, you don't have the benefit of fast-track authority at that point," the official added, referencing the procedural powers that the super committee would enjoy. "It has to go through regular order. But [at that point] you can resuscitate what Speaker [John Boehner] and the President were doing. They can come to that deal, get that passed and that would avoid the [triggers], or [they could do the] Gang of Six [deal]."

The several paths to further deficit reduction mean the political conversation could very well revolve around the topics of entitlement and tax reform for the next year and a half -- sucking the oxygen away from other issues. Some lawmakers may end up passing on the super committee's recommendations, believing they can get a better deal down in the next year. That could mean the main forces affected by the potential trigger -- the defense lobby and health care industry -- will have extra time to engage in a lobbying campaign to ensure that their priorities aren't threatened.

As it stands now, the debt-ceiling deal tasks a bipartisan committee with finding an additional $1.5 trillion in deficit reductions. The committee can do this by looking at both entitlement reform and raising revenue and will have until Nov. 23 to finish its deliberations. If a majority of the 12 committee members vote for a package of recommendations, that package will be sent to both chambers of Congress for passage. No one will be allowed to amend the suggestions offered, nor will a filibuster be permitted. A vote will be held no later than Dec. 23.

To incentivize committee success even further, the debt-ceiling deal includes a host of triggers that would be pulled if its recommendations end up shelved. The triggers ensure an additional $1.2 trillion in deficit reduction over 10 years be passed into law. Those cuts would be split evenly between domestic and defense spending.

That means a massive potential hit to the defense budget. Over 10 years, roughly $486 billion would be cut from defense spending (or 8.4 percent of what is projected to be spent on defense over that same time period). By contrast, the trigger would result in roughly $126 billion in reductions to Medicare provider payments over 10 years (or 2 percent of projected spending on Medicare suppliers over that same period).

But those triggers won't be immediate. They will only come into place beginning in 2013, giving lawmakers and lobbyists a full year to try and push the committee's package -- or some alternative -- into law.

For some members of Congress, that timeframe offers an incentive, allowing them to punt on the committee's recommendations in order to secure their own deficit-reduction package through normal procedures. Democrats, for example, may find any recommended entitlement reforms impossible to swallow. Conservative members of Congress would likely be uncomfortable voting for any final package that includes tax increases. To do so would risk the possibility of the Bush-era tax cuts lapsing, along with the triggers being pulled, at the end of 2012.

But that might be a tax gamble lawmakers are willing to make, considering the extension compromise the GOP was able to extract from Obama when the Bush tax cuts were first set to expire at the end of 2010.

At Sunday night's briefing, Several White House officials insisted the president would veto legislation that extended the Bush tax cuts for the rich -- a threat one aide insisted the president never made during the first go-around.

"If you are adamantly opposed to returning the rates for the wealthiest Americans to what they were in the Clinton administration then you have a tremendous incentive to deal with it in the tax reform process," a White House official said of Republican lawmakers. "If they send something that has the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy attached, [Obama] will veto it."

Officials also argued that enough enticements and penalties are in place to secure an effective super committee. They said members of Congress would likely recoil at the gamesmanship involved in shelving the committee's recommendations and therefore feel compelled to place well-intentioned lawmakers on the committee.

One White House Official said Republicans would be unlikely to stack the committee with Tea Party members, "because they have the same incentives. The worse case scenario for Republicans, if you don't want tax increases, is to have it end up in a place where the committee fails. They do not want the committee to fail."

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WASHINGTON -- The super committee established under the still-to-be-passed debt ceiling deal has been granted immense powers to make its recommendations law. But that doesn't mean grand bargain of sor...
WASHINGTON -- The super committee established under the still-to-be-passed debt ceiling deal has been granted immense powers to make its recommendations law. But that doesn't mean grand bargain of sor...
 
 
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armchairpickleback
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies" -Ron Paul
03:06 PM on 08/03/2011
bernanke gets wasted and tells the truth

http://www.theonion.com/articles/drunken-ben-bernanke-tells-everyone-at-neighborhoo,21059/
11:08 AM on 08/02/2011
Cantor looks upset in that photograph that he isn't sitting next to Boehner...
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
10:12 AM on 08/02/2011
Of course it introduces more lobbyist Washington is run by them thru a proxy from Corporate America, what better way to start more Government jobs then to reinvent the pay to play increase in Washington, and this debt panel will be implemented by those funds the nation saves for the first year, that is fiscal conservatism at it's best.
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crabcake
09:28 AM on 08/02/2011
We need to know more about this "super committee".
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12:00 PM on 08/02/2011
We already know everything we need to know about the "super congress." It is a monumentally bad idea and should be deemed as unconstitutional. It does mean a boon for the lobbyists. Just think how special interests will save when they only have to buy off 7 members rather than 51 or 218.
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mom792
08:57 AM on 08/03/2011
Thanks for your clarity F&F
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Sheldon archer
Facebook name is Yuyun Archer
01:33 AM on 08/02/2011
Now a few more wars to keep the military complex happy and justify their expenditure
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disgustedwithall
USA not free/safer if citizen requires gun for it.
12:41 AM on 08/02/2011
Oh well, only two more acts for the Debt Play, Swineate and WH the closing act. Be great to see what the next play will be about, how the media critics and talking heads spin it, We can then look forward to another DC play where the actors can put on the roles they so love, apply the "I am angry, I am so sincere, I am here for the people or the other costumes the money sponsoring the DC (and state capitals) play has set up for them.
Can hardly wait for the "results of the Super Committee or whatever it ends being labeled" as that thing, while another play, falls more into the area of comedy of errors waiting to happen. But have to give the folks that wrote that play credit, has more tiny holes in it then average screen door. Kind of reminds me of "Super" stuff left in field when cows go to barn at night.

Seems that USA commoners get screwed again, just when I thought our DC ruling courtiers had about hammered middle class into oblivion via last "Budget Reform" or other various "Reforms designed to save nation, blah blah etc".

So kiddies, seems the ruling class's get another shot at us in a year, how traditional.
01:07 AM on 08/02/2011
I think after this the Congress takes their summer vacation and goes home to tell the constiuents what a great job they did this session.
They'll come back after Labor Day to talk about the jobs mess. But that is all that they will be able to do; talk about it. There are so many budget cuts, that there will be no job creation and no unemployment benefits.
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disgustedwithall
USA not free/safer if citizen requires gun for it.
02:02 PM on 08/02/2011
Congress comes home and then sets all up so they only have their supporters (read fund folks) around them. Most of what is passed at fed/state levels comes out of "Bill Central" for all states and this latest sell out of the commoners is just MOS. But the way the media put "sincerely dangerous near the cliff's edge" etc on it, was an amusing game. But they will soon lower curtain on this little three month play and find a new one, If only we could get REAL term limits. Please non of the usual "We have term limits, vote them out" as the money being spent (and coming in now) will be record dollars and buys VERY sophisticated lies, spin, fear and panic and now days only the political junkies have a remote clue what is going, and they are 90% partisan.

Sorry but this little game has given China ammo to get what they want, the dollar removed as the "standard" and that folks will be the new international game.
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lodger16x
12:41 AM on 08/02/2011
Will the Tea Party intimidate Obama and the DC DEMs into allowing defense contractor lobbyists to carry weapons on the House and Senate floors?
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
12:31 AM on 08/02/2011
In other words, the triggers are useless except as an open invitation to funnel more money into campaigns in exchange for passing more lobbyist-written legislation.

The difference now is that Medicare and Social Security ARE still on the table, regardless.
12:13 AM on 08/02/2011
Interesting precedent as it picks up speed in this economy:

http://newsblog.projo.com/2011/08/receiver-chafee-central-falls.html

Update: Central Falls files for bankruptcy; contracts voided

All contracts with municipal workers and retirees, including the fire and police departments, are immediately voided.

Retirees must begin to pay 20 percent of their medical coverage effective immediately, as Flanders proposed when he met with the city's retirees July 19.

Lawyers who have studied the limited case law involving municipalities filing bankruptcy say it allows the city to impose changes in its contracts with employees, but it is unclear how much authority a court would have to approve unilateral changes in pensions.

Most municipal bankruptcies have been solved by the municipality finding the savings in the operating budget. And while courts have ruled that pension extras like cost of living increases can be reduced, legal experts said the case law is not clear on whether the base pension itself can be cut.
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12:02 AM on 08/02/2011
It's too bad the bill didn't include keeping the identity of the Super Dupers a secret, especially from the lobbyists....
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stape45
It IS what it IS!
12:29 AM on 08/02/2011
That might have hindered corruption, and that would never do.
11:40 PM on 08/01/2011
Article Title: "Debt Ceiling Deal Paves Way For Potentially Historic Lobbying Campaign"

Upon first reading I dyslexically switched "Historic" to read ...Potentially HISTRIONIC Lobbying Campaign. I think I like Histrionic better.
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beerbagger
12-pack of genius
11:10 PM on 08/01/2011
12 does not equal 50!!!!!!!
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eugenemyst
Intentionally blank
11:05 PM on 08/01/2011
The trigger is a joke. After Thanksgiving the games resume.
10:34 PM on 08/01/2011
A total cringe worthy sellout by Obama.
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lodger16x
10:22 PM on 08/01/2011
The Pentagon is grossly overfunded. An 8% cut over ten years is not much, realistically it should be cut 30-40%. I doubt it will be cut even 8%, the defense lobby will dominate this Super Congress
11:45 PM on 08/01/2011
At the rate they have been going 40% is not enough. A 90% across the board like Clinton did will piss off a lot of right wingers and neocons and that will be a good relief.
romano70
If conservatives were smart, they'd be liberals
12:13 AM on 08/02/2011
Clearly to the expense of grandma's social security check.