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Despite Pulling Debt Ceiling Debate Rightward, Tea Party Activists Slam House-Passed Deal

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First Posted: 08/01/11 09:09 PM ET Updated: 10/01/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON – Republican Lindsey Graham's position on the debt ceiling deal Monday made one thing very plain: the senior senator from South Carolina is scared to death of the Tea Party.

Graham, a 56-year-old second-termer, rejected the deal early in the day, arguing that it "adds over $7 trillion in new debt over the next decade and only makes small reductions in future spending."

"We hardly address the future growth of entitlements, a major contributor of future budgetary problems," said Graham, who is not up for reelection until 2014 but is already talked of as a major target for a primary challenge.

With a tweak here or there, Graham's statement could have come from the mouth of his state's junior senator, conservative firebrand Jim DeMint. Reports surfaced Monday that DeMint is so angered by the debt ceiling deal that he is considering supporting primary challengers to fellow GOP senators who vote in its favor on Tuesday.

The move by Graham -- a pragmatic politician who nobody would have accused in past years of being an intransigent ideologue -- was an example of the way the Tea Party wielded influence in the debt ceiling debate. It was not a case of power brokers flexing muscles in backroom meetings. It was, rather, the application of grassroots pressure being channeled through lawmakers such as DeMint, but also through long-established conservative advocacy organizations in Washington.

"The influence was more from pressure from the outside, rather than in-the-room pressure and influence," said a senior House Republican aide.

But, the aide added, "the Tea Party had some of their most powerful influence working with or through Beltway-type organizations like FreedomWorks, Americans for Prosperity, and Let Freedom Ring … Even the Tea Party needs some 'establishment' help to get things done."

However, Graham's position did not prevail in the House, where the most significant obstacles to the deal's passage were overcome when 95 Democrats joined with 174 Republicans to approve the $2.4 trillion increase in the debt ceiling, in exchange for at least $2.1 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years.

The result left national and local leaders in the Tea Party fuming.

"It's kind of frustrating after all these battles starting with TARP and stimulus, the continued willingness of the political class to jam things through at the final hour," said Matt Kibbe, president and CEO of FreedomWorks, in an interview.

Kibbe called the deal "a political Band-Aid that's not going to satisfy the ratings agencies and it's not going to solve the debt crisis."

Andrew Hemingway, chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus of New Hampshire, was more blunt.

"I hate the deal," he said.

"Moody's is saying we have too much debt already, so Congress says, 'Okay, let's add $7 trillion over the next ten years,'" Hemingway told The Huffington Post. "And let's establish a commission to study where we can cut? Are you serious? … It's all politics and there are no winners in this, only losers. We need real substantive cuts and we need them now."

The Cato Institute, a Libertarian-leaning think tank in Washington, posted a chart showing federal spending continuing to rise during the next decade even after the first batch of $917 billion in cuts under the deal.

"The budget deal doesn't cut federal spending at all," said Cato's Chris Edwards, highlighting the fact that the cuts are from a projected budget baseline that assumes spending increases each year.

Bob MacGuffie, a Tea Party activist in Connecticut, called the debt deal "a sham."

"The msm [mainstream media] have all circled up this morning to call this a big victory for the Tea Party. That's all a charade so that we ease back and let this pathetic excuse for legislation pass," MacGuffie said. "Most of us have been working the emails and phones today to pressure the House to defeat this bill."

Supporters of the deal argued that it was a good start toward reining in federal spending.

"We are finally, finally getting serious about getting our fiscal house in order," said Rep. David Drier, the House Rules Committee chairman, as he kicked off debate Monday afternoon on the bill.

An adviser to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) laid out a multi-tiered vision of how spending and entitlement reform will continue to dominate the discussion in Washington. The budget debate this spring over a continuing resolution was step one, the aide said, the debt ceiling debate was step two, and the debate this fall over another continuing resolution to fund the government through the 2012 fiscal year will be a third step.

One top counselor to a leading Republican presidential candidate said that while the plan was flawed, "history will say that the Tea Party movement was responsible for us making at least baby steps toward the bigger structural problems."

Ultimately, the path being taken by Republicans in congressional leadership indicates a belief that sweeping changes to entitlement programs such as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security is not possible unless and until a Republican is elected president.

But talk of "baby steps" is not enough for most in the Tea Party.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) -- who leads a conservative caucus of Republican House members and came under criticism last week for encouraging outside groups to pressure fellow Republicans -- was one of the first to cast a vote against the debt deal. Before the gavel was even struck to begin the 15-minute vote a few minutes before 7 p.m., Jordan sprang from his seat and took his electronic voting card out of his breast pocket. The gavel came down, the voting began and Jordan eagerly stuck his card in the slot at the end of the row, pushed a button, and a red light showed up next to Jordan's name on the board displaying all 435 members' names on the south wall of the House chamber.

Yet there were no protests outside the Capitol like there were for President Obama's health care overhaul when it passed in 2010 by an also-slim margin. A small group of liberal protesters was arrested inside the Capitol after protesting inside the House chamber against the Republican plan.

Doug Mainwaring, a Tea Party activist from Bethesda, Md., said that "the absence of big protest rallies on Capitol Hill during this debt ceiling debate reveals the fact that the Tea Party has been rapidly maturing."

"We're defined by a lot more than protest, and this will become more apparent as time goes on. Most folks are focused like a laser on the 2012 elections," he said.

If nothing else, the debt ceiling debate showed that if they want bigger wins, Tea Party members will have to do more than bring pressure to bear on lawmakers. They'll have to elect more of their own. Whether they can do so is an open question.

This article has been updated.

CORRECTION: An early version of this article identified Rep. Jim Jordan as a congressman from Indiana. He is from Ohio.
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WASHINGTON – Republican Lindsey Graham's position on the debt ceiling deal Monday made one thing very plain: the senior senator from South Carolina is scared to death of the Tea Party. Graham, a ...
WASHINGTON – Republican Lindsey Graham's position on the debt ceiling deal Monday made one thing very plain: the senior senator from South Carolina is scared to death of the Tea Party. Graham, a ...
 
 
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Coyote50
"Taxes are the price we pay for civilization."
12:15 AM on 08/05/2011
What part of President Hoover and conservative Congress in 1937 don't these T-vangelicals get?
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hoping2
11:15 PM on 08/03/2011
The best thing we can do is vote the TPublicans out of office. They must go!
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joedaplumper
Ever see an airplane do thi.............
08:23 PM on 08/03/2011
Nice pic. Can anybody tell me how 18 people and a Trick or Treater in a tricorner hat can dictate terms and conditions to Congress? The inmates have taken over the asylum.
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bill freehan
Back Up the Trucks...! - Randy Quaid
12:54 PM on 08/03/2011
**[Food for thought: ever notice that when Federal funds go toward benefiting those in dire need of said funds in order to simply exist { funds MANDATED to be paid into by the very ones to receive benefits }, those funds are labelled by political wordsmiths as "ENTITLEMENTS" -- whereas, when the funds go into the grubby little greedy fingers of Military Contractors, Corporate Farmers, Lobbyist Interests, BUSH TARP Funds, BUSH Wall Street Bailouts, Colonel Motors Bailouts, Blackwater Mercenaries, Haliburton Huxters, Bank Executive Bonuses, Bridges to Nowhere, Politician Payraises, Politician Health Care, Politician Pensions, Big Oil Kickbacks, Overseas Puppet Regimes, Enhanced Interrogation Sites, Half-A-Billion Dollar Jets for Israel { but none of ours in service come 9-11-01 }, Disinformation Funding for people known as "Curveball", 'Slam-Dunk' Intel, Unlimited Supreme political donations, Pentagon Pet Projects, Political Junkets, Clandestine Ops & Trysts...well, they have a different word for those people: SUBSIDIES!!! ]** (Part 4 - END)
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bill freehan
Back Up the Trucks...! - Randy Quaid
12:46 PM on 08/03/2011
You want RECEIPTS!?! How about RENDITIONS to Black Sites, instead, you Communist bed-wetting b*sterds! You'll take warrantless wiretaps, suspensions of Habeus Corpus, Enhanced Interrogations, inadequately armored Humvees, maimed soldiers, and dead sons and daughters, ALSO...and YOU.WILL.LIKE.IT!!!
7 years and 7 TRILLION DOLLARS later, a new guy took over and continued the very same policies which had led to all the mess. Same policies, same results, different pedigree. The ONLY thing that changed was that the New Guy wasn't the horse in the race backed by those with all the dough. It's all just so much sour grapes...every.last.bit. (Part 3)
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bill freehan
Back Up the Trucks...! - Randy Quaid
12:44 PM on 08/03/2011
Big Pharma windfalls from an unfunded and non-negotiated Medicare Rx plan; Record quarterly profits for Big Oil every...da@%...quarter!
In other words, NO PENNY WAS LEFT UNTURNED. The Economy sputtered along, the Banks overextended, Billions in CASH disappeared in Iraq, Wall Street collapsed following the collapse of Lehman Brothers ( which was allowed to collapse by The Decider, who was busy thinking about the golf game he gave up to show support for those he sent to die for a cause he has yet to determine ).
It all still remains crystal clear within my memory...the tremendous uproar wrought on the former Administration by The Tea Party Movement after Cheney snarled, "Deficits don't matter!" The carnage, the humanity, the kitchy signs of protest -- emblazened forever on the National Conciousness -- representing everything good and right and true with America. I have never felt more pride for my fellow countrymen than I did on those fateful days when The Tea Baggers sought to TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY! PROUD, proud...proud, proud...HUH?
DIXIE-CHICKED? TREASONOUS? UNPATRIOTIC?
That's RI-I-I-IGHT! How DARE THEY question the Commander-In-Thief during a time of [undeclared] WAR! (Part 2)
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bill freehan
Back Up the Trucks...! - Randy Quaid
12:39 PM on 08/03/2011
Tea Baggers, Rush Bless 'em, perhaps have some merit in wanting to reduce spending and balance the budget. It is a noble concept. In fact, as recently as January 19, 2001, the U.S. Gubbmint was operating in the BLACK. Afterward, something remarkable happened: a Tea Bagger favorite decided, bein' the Decider 'n all, to spend the People's money like there was no tomorrow -- unfunded War in Afghanistan, followed up by another unfunded War (this one by HIS CHOOSING) ON Iraq.

While debt was mounting at a feverish pitch, Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill sounded an alarm to the Bus...er,...Cheney Administration that the debt was dangerously out of whack. De facto Prez Dick C. made it all better by pointing out to the unappreciative, inconsiderate, disloyal alarmist that "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter!" In essence, 'Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!' into digging a giant hole where a modest mountain once stood.

Madness ensued. Enron ran amok unregulated, gouging clients at every turn; banks handed out cash as fast as the presses could mint it; FEMA trailers -- post-Katrina -- sat upon multi-acre compounds...serving no one in need of shelter for months at a time, then rendered unfit to live in in the first GD place!; trickle-down tax cuts for the wealthy which led to a stagnant economy as the beneficiaries rat-holed the cash while lost revenues added to the budget shortfall; (Part 1)
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hoping2
11:11 PM on 08/03/2011
The TP's have no answer to the truth. They only belittle the truth with constant denial and lies.
11:29 AM on 08/03/2011
I just read that The Economist is forecasting that unemployment rates could reach nearly 50% during the next year. To all of you self-satisfied Repubs who are saying that they can take care of themselves cos they're 'smart' and 'have great-paying jobs', etc. You might want to cross your fingers at the very least. Although that prediction scares the pooh out of me, at least it might wipe the smug smiles off of some people's faces.
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Angie Tyne 1
I want my disagree button!!
07:25 PM on 08/03/2011
They'll blame Obama.

Facts:

- Deficits spiked under each republican president and went down under democratic ones (Bush Sr raised taxes midway - it began to dip.)
From US govt spending.com
http://tinyurl.com/42n2pcl

- Taxes're lower w/Obama. We should be in a boom according to trickle down.
http://tinyurl.com/3sbnwss

- US/DOL
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/srgate
Enter: LNS14000000
Select 1960 for start and click retrieve. Show graph if you like.

Unemployment spiked higher in Reagan's first two years. It was over 10% for almost a year. He wasn't dealing w/a massive market crash.

Reagan raised taxes on the rich!
http://tinyurl.com/2ew3hml

- House JEC report, 1996; Republican majority:
http://tinyurl.com/4ruof

"The share of the income tax burden borne by the top 10 percent of taxpayers increased from 48.0 percent in 1981 to 57.2 percent in 1988. Meanwhile, the share of income taxes paid by the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers dropped from 7.5 percent in 1981 to 5.7 percent in 1988.

A middle class of taxpayers can be defined as those between the 50th...95th percentile (those earning between $18,367 and $72,735 in 1988). Between 1981..1988, the income tax burden of the middle class declined from 57.5 percent in 1981 to 48.7 percent in 1988. This 8.8 percentage point decline in middle class tax burden is entirely accounted for by the increase borne by the top one percent."
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Sisa
10:55 AM on 08/03/2011
The tea as been drunk... and it made us all sick.... All that's left to do now is throw out the bag at the bottom and wash out the cup..... See ya!
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FACTISFACT
A war veteran. Finally retired
10:23 AM on 08/03/2011
Look you Tea Party people you have no right to say anything against the deal, but yes you have all right and more to do anything to those who dealt in doing the deal from your party.
09:56 AM on 08/03/2011
There will never be a balanced budget amendment. Even if you get the Congress to go along with it the states will never ratify such a thing. You need 38 of the 50 states to say yes and they are not going to voluntarily cut off their money from Washington. So go ahead Tea Partiers pass your balanced budget amendment and it will be rejected by the states.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
09:43 AM on 08/03/2011
Jeez. They got their ransom, and they're still not happy?
BlackTom
Your micro bio is empty
09:37 AM on 08/03/2011
The "job creators" are the consumers whose demand for products creates the deman for workers.
Mass demand comes from the mass of people who are not wealthy. Give the rich more money, and they save it, they don't spend it, cause it doesn't affect their demand for goods and services. WHen everyone else gets more money, they spend more money.

If demand is flat due to sustained high employment (it is), then government work projects will increase demand, tax revenues, and economic growth. More gov't spending is needed NOW, on long term infrastructure investment. The tea party republicans are just plain wrong for America.

The job creators are the non-wealthy consumers. Period.
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Ginger23
Sempre ubi sub ubi.
09:47 AM on 08/03/2011
Fanned.
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1jdgriff
Logic Prevails
10:03 AM on 08/03/2011
That is the bottom line, economic growth will not occur with continued high unemployment and a lack of revenue coming in. If the tea party continues with their current direction, the country will be stuck in the mud.
09:28 AM on 08/03/2011
The debt/deficit reduction bill didn't go far enough. The super congress is a sham...only to take the pressure off the congress in future decisions and let them look good to the electorate. If there is not a balanced budget constitutional amendment voted by the states, nothing has been accomplished...except to slow the Libs/Dems course of destruction of the US economy. We need more Tea Party candidates in the next election cycle to replace the status quo Repubs.
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Ginger23
Sempre ubi sub ubi.
09:32 AM on 08/03/2011
How's trickle down economics working for you? I mean really. Are things really better for you or are you struggling like the rest of us?
09:46 AM on 08/03/2011
Actually, I do not know how trickle down is working for me. What I do know is, I am not even close to being wealthy, I have no debt, I live within my means, and I raised three children to be able to live simply, honestly, and debt free. Almost anybody can do it...unfortunately most do not want to. I am not struggling.
SanFranciscoDad
GOP: 1854 - 2014
09:44 AM on 08/03/2011
Do you ANY sense of history. The "so-called" conservative administrations of the 20th Century restricted growth - real growth for a majority of Americans; those presidents also left deficits upon leaving office. Liberty for all, not just the wealthy white boys, and opportunities expanded more for all Americans under the "liberal administrations", not the republican administrations. Try reading something other than Tea Bag propaganda... and form you're own ideas based on actual evidence and not fantasy and fiction...
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SESZOO
09:06 AM on 08/03/2011
AT LEAST WE HAD OVER A HUNDRED LIBRAL DEMOCRATS THAT VOTED AGAINEST THE DEBT DEAL AND HOW MANY REPUBS.?