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Italy Burqa Ban: Muslim Veil Law Passes Parliamentary Commision

Italy Burqa Ban

08/ 2/11 03:03 PM ET   AP

ROME -- An Italian parliamentary commission on Tuesday approved a draft law banning women from wearing veils that cover their faces in public.

The draft passed by the constitutional affairs commission would prohibit women from wearing a burqa, naqib or any other garb that covers the face in such circumstances. It would expand a decades-old law that for security reasons prohibits people from wearing face-covering items such as masks in public places.

Women who violate the ban would face fines of euro100 to euro300, while third parties who force women to cover their faces in public would be fined euro30,000 ($43,000) and face up to 12 months in jail.

Italy, an overwhelmingly Catholic country with a small Muslim minority, is the latest European country to act against the burqa. France and Belgium have banned the wearing of burqa-style Islamic dress in public, as has a city in Spain. The Belgium law cited security concerns.

The Italian law was sponsored by Souad Sbai, a Moroccan-born member of Premier Silvio Berlusconi's conservative Freedom People party, who said she wanted to help Islamic women better integrate into Italian society.

"Five years ago, no one wore the burqa (in Italy). Today, there is always more. We have to help women get out of this segregation ... to get out of this submission," Sbai said in a telephone interview. "I want to speak for those who don't have a voice, who don't have the strength to yell and say, 'I am not doing well."

According to some estimates, 3,000 women in Italy cover their faces with veils, she said, adding that many of them are forced to do so.

However, the spokesman of an Islamic group said banning the Islamic veil "is unjust and touches individual liberty."

"This topic continues to be a sort of criminalization and media dramatization. In Italy, there aren't even 100 women who wear the niqab, and not even one who wears the burqa," Roberto Hamza Piccard, spokesman for the Union of Islamic Communities in Italy, was quoted by the news agency ANSA as saying. He said such a ban would isolate devout Muslim women, who would not be able to leave their homes.

ANSA said the main opposition party voted against the law. The draft will be forwarded after the summer recess to parliament, where Berlusconi's governing coalition has a narrow majority.

The preliminary approval was welcomed by lawmaker Barbara Saltamartini, vice president of the Freedom People party caucus in the lower house.

"Final approval will put an end to the suffering of many women who are often forced to wear the burqa or niqab, which annihilates their dignity and gets in the way of integration," Saltamartini said in a statement.

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AcademicFreedom
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08:13 PM on 08/29/2011
I believe that the men of a country should have the right to decide which women must wear burqa; definitely would pick that Debbie Wasserman Schniedermann. Just for fun, the next Black Party should be held in Riyahd.
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11:09 PM on 08/22/2011
If people emigrate to a new country they should adapt THEMSELVES to the mores and customs of that country. They should not expect the country to change to fit THEIR ideas. If women want to walk around wearing tents over their heads let them move to a country where that is expected. When I see Muslim countries allowing women to walk around in tank tops and short-shorts with a pork sandwich in one hand and a bottle of beer in the other I'll listen to what Muslims have to say about how the laws in NON-MUSLIM countries should be written.
03:08 AM on 08/09/2011
Truly, you can't seriously think you as a person has a right to tell whether a muslim women should or should not be wearing a burqah or niqab. I can't believe half the comments here completely unethical and absurd. Comparing a muslim woman wearing a niqab to women being abused is far fetched and simply stupid. Wearing a burqah does not harm anyone nor does it affect anyone. You believe you are helping but you are not. You believe Saudia Arabia is bad by enforcing the burqa but by making it illegal you are just as bad. Also some women believe it or not, want to wear the burqa not forced. Im not saying being forced is right but women girls are forced to wear something everyday
some times we arent allowed to wear skirts does that mean pants become banned?
and what makes the burqa differently its simply a piece of clothing that hides a body in this case the face.
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11:55 AM on 08/09/2011
You sound like a bully who says that his victims enjoy their oppression.
01:38 PM on 08/16/2011
you sound like you probably wear the hijab.

There are many reason why girls choose to cover their hair.. it can be because they are forced to, because its a custom to , because they want to feel more religious, because they want to fit in.... etc but there is ABSOLUTELY NO JUSTIFICATION for the niqab. you can not look at that picture and tell me that someone would choose to walk around the earth covering their entire body and face and put mesh on their eyes.

The Niqab is oppression! It is a misinterpretation of the holy text! and it is simply INHUMAN AND WRONG!

don't compare the niqab with skirts or pants. The reason why muslim women and also Jewish women don't usually wear pants is because pants trace the outline of the body more than a skirt.

the niqab is an EXTREME example of conservative values and it is wrong and should be banned EVERYWHERE!

btw... my mother wears the Niqab
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Elecktra001
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11:25 PM on 08/08/2011
No woman would wear such a repressive garment without serious brainwashing.
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AcademicFreedom
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08:14 PM on 08/29/2011
Yet women regularly dress showing a nice camel toe - maybe they have been brainwashed too?
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LynxAlexiaBlack
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03:45 PM on 08/08/2011
to play devils advocate... did anyone ask the Muslim women if they want to take the burqa off? Some of the Muslim women I know are quite devout in their own way and don't find anything wrong with adhering to an Islamic dress code. It's as much their faith as the mens so they should be allowed to follow it as they see fit. I think this narrow mindedness of the EU nations is appalling
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08:09 PM on 08/08/2011
Some women in abusive relationships will claim that they love their abuser, too. Do we take their word for it? No.
03:07 AM on 08/09/2011
The women you speak of are brainwashed since childhood. And not in the most subtle ways. Most of them would not even conceive the idea of not covering their heads.
That is not choice ...
04:05 AM on 08/08/2011
I will continue a bit, We should not be rude towards those who at best are misguided, but it is ironic that rudeness is inherent in wearing a Niqab. You cannot hide your face and yet be free to look at other people faces.

The argument that everybody is free to wear a face veil it is not very well thought through because if taken to its logical conclusion the result will be total chaos. If on the other hand it is argued that those who wear Niqabs should be trusted that they don't look at other people faces then that even raises other issues of social mistrust, if we are to take their claim at face value :) then they should trust others not to look at them either. Needless to add members of both parties in practice will break this “not looking” rule and often do.

The whole issue of Niqab also raises other serious questions; does an individual have the right to be anonymous in a public place? Obviously not.
04:04 AM on 08/08/2011
A clear distinction needs to be made between the face veil and a head cover. The former has nothing to do with Islam and the later is a form of conforming to the modest dress code as detailed in the primary document Quran. The head cover itself is not obligatory as long as dressing modestly is attempted and generally accepted by the community one lives in. If one were to ignore the environment then the objective of wearing a head cover shifts to identity or even exhibitionism of the type "look at me I am a Muslim" and thus defeat the modesty principle behind it of "don't look at me, I am not on display".

The confusion has been created when the word "Khimar" is translated as veil, thus ignoring the use of the word elsewhere in the Quran where the meaning is restricted to a general notion of covering. Hence the correct translation in the relevant verse Quran 24:31 would be to "cover" the chest area. The use of the word is incidental and not the focus of the verse, which is clearly focused on modesty.

It is also important to point out that Niqab version (face veil) of covering up can be summed up as exhibitionism and voyeurism both rolled into one. While forcing Niqab on women is nothing short of criminal and finally it is actually a crime in some countries as it should be, opting for one willingly is nothing short of social dishonesty.
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08:11 PM on 08/08/2011
They are both forms of identity-concealing garments and have no place in an enlightened, Western democracy.
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see-ellen2001
11:15 AM on 08/09/2011
Hijab does not conceal identity. Maybe hats should be outlawed too?
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PrairieGayCompanion
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05:37 PM on 08/07/2011
While I think the burqa is an oppressive and demeaning piece of clothing for women, I don't believe for an instant that the parliament passed the law on the that basis or for security reasons, but as an attempt to control the Muslim population. When they pass a law to ban veils on nuns and ballgowns on priests, I will take them seriously.
03:13 AM on 08/09/2011
Nuns don't cover their faces. Head scarves similar to the nuns' are not banned - only burqa/niqab, which cover the face.
I agree with you on the ball-gown issue :).
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dbrett480
02:46 PM on 08/07/2011
A huge debate needs to take place regarding this. Most Muslims in Europe (unlike in America) are culturally isolated (of their own choosing) and adhere to the most strict interpretation of the Koran. In civilized societies, as much of Europe is, women's right are respected and acknowledged. Whereas in the Muslim culture women are expected to be subservient. A country cannot claim to be both tolerant of religious beliefs and the rights of women, they need to make a choice.
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11:09 AM on 08/07/2011
Wow. When will men tire of telling women what to wear? They cannot wear this, they should wear that. It's so stupid.
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02:25 PM on 08/07/2011
When will Muslim women finally be free of the coercion and disapprobation they face every day?
09:13 AM on 08/07/2011
Why is it in all religions except Buddhism the males always want to totally dominate the women?
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11:06 AM on 08/07/2011
Why do you single out religions? We could just as easily consider political systems and economic systems which are much more influential in everyone's life.
11:13 AM on 08/07/2011
Frankly the worst of them all are Religions for wanting to dominate and lord over women. It's wrong to force women to have to be covered up from head to toe by oppressive, hot clothing. Men don't have to...why should the women?
03:16 AM on 08/09/2011
In Buddhism too - in most Buddhist branches nuns are hardly more than servants to the male clerics and can never aspire to the same kind or "promotion" in the priest structure.
07:47 AM on 08/09/2011
I don't think so.
09:09 AM on 08/07/2011
Good for Italy
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Marc NL
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01:06 AM on 08/07/2011
When in Rome...

As a guest you should change your ways to your host. Not the other way around.
I am all for religious freedom, but you should respect the laws of the land. (I understand there are limits)

I moved to the U.S 10 years ago. I consider my self a guest. I learned the language culture and customs. it would be highly arrogant of me to expect the reverse. That doesn't mean I have abandoned my background but in public that becomes something I need to be aware off.

Wearing a burqa in public might not be exactly the same as simply adapting to your surroundings but for me it's close enough.

I mean the last thing I wanted was to alienate all my neighbours by refusing to integrate.
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David Weidner
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11:33 PM on 08/06/2011
I wish my wife would cover her face and shut her mouth. :) Not really.
10:29 PM on 08/06/2011
These laws are patronizing and eurocentric, I am flabbergasted that anyone who believes in pluralism can support these laws.
03:17 AM on 08/09/2011
OMG! they are eurocentric! ... in Europe of all places!!