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Tea Party To Push Paul Ryan Medicare Plan In Town Halls

Tea Party Paul Ryan Medicare Plan

First Posted: 08/03/11 02:43 PM ET Updated: 10/03/11 06:12 AM ET

By David Morgan

WASHINGTON -- With Medicare at the top of lawmakers' fall agenda, Tea Party movement leaders hope to ignite support for Republican plans to transform the popular federal healthcare program for the elderly.

Thousands of Tea Party movement activists are expected to descend this month on town hall meetings across key battleground states as part of an intensifying campaign ahead of the 2012 presidential and congressional elections.

Their priority is a plan to slash Medicare costs proposed by House of Representatives Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, which could gain momentum now that a debt-limit deal between President Barack Obama and Congress has made potential Medicare cuts a centerpiece of the deficit debate.

A new congressional committee charged with finding $1.5 trillion in spending cuts by November 23 is expected to focus on Medicare, and the program would see automatic cuts if the committee failed to reach agreement, or if Congress did not approve its recommendations by December 23. Market values of companies that depend on Medicare spending fell more than 10 percent in a sell-off on Wall Street after the agreement.

"The August town halls are going to be, potentially, a referendum on Democrats who don't care and Republicans who've dared to offer real policy solutions, particularly on things like entitlements," said Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks, the small-government advocacy group organizing the initiative.

"The Ryan plan is the only one out there so far, and what we need is an adult conversation with all politicians talking about the real issues."

Decried by retirees, labor unions and Democrats as a voucher system that would end Medicare, the Ryan plan appeared near death after opposition to it helped Democrats capture a congressional seat in a Republican stronghold in upstate New York in May.

But FreedomWorks, which helped found and shape the Tea Party movement, sees its campaign as the opening salvo in a long battle to secure a place for the Ryan plan in the 2012 debate and the legislative session that will begin in January 2013.

RISKS FOR REPUBLICANS

The gambit poses risks for Republicans in swing states including Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio, which FreedomWorks is targeting.

At stake is the support of senior citizens, a powerful bloc of swing voters who broadly oppose the Ryan plan and could punish its supporters in Congress if Republicans fail to turn the debate in their favor, according to analysts.

The Ryan plan -- which the House approved in April but which went nowhere in the Democratic-led Senate -- would preserve Medicare for current beneficiaries but transform it for future retirees from a system that provides guaranteed benefits to one that gives the elderly financial assistance to buy private insurance.

Polls point to broad public support for preserving Medicare in the deficit debate, with majorities favoring higher taxes for the wealthy over program cuts.

Still, a June CBS poll showed that nearly 60 percent of Americans know little about the changes proposed by the Ryan plan, suggesting that many voters have yet to form an opinion.

FreedomWorks faces a daunting challenge from Democrats and progressive groups including the coalition Health Care for America Now, which pushed for healthcare reform in 2010 and intends to defend that new law and Medicare against Republican attacks through the 2012 election.

"Each side is going to try to scare the hell out of seniors. And they're going to do that because it works. It motivates seniors to get to the polls," said Michael Cannon, a health policy expert at the libertarian Cato Institute.

Kibbe, whose group is led by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey and claims 800,000 volunteers nationwide, says Republicans lost in New York because they abandoned the Medicare debate to Democrats.

Republican lawmakers now need to come out swinging before the same thing happens elsewhere, he says.

"If they don't do that, we won't win this debate," Kibbe told Reuters. "You can't move a legislative initiative unless you've vetted it through the political season."

'PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN'

Ryan himself appears to agree and has been promoting his views on television and in a Wall Street Journal Op-Ed piece.

"We need a public education campaign and that means people from all around the country, different groups, need to engage with their people," Ryan told CNBC a day after the House approved the debt limit deal.

"You've got to have wherewithal to get out to the public to educate them as to the pending bankruptcy of Medicare."

A perennial campaign issue, Medicare could be key in 2012 House and Senate elections in swing states and could help determine the outcome in the White House race as Democrat Obama takes on a Republican challenger.

Senior citizens demonstrated their electoral clout in last November's midterm elections, when they rebelled against Obama's healthcare reforms in large enough numbers to help Tea Party activists install a Republican majority in the House.

People age 60 and older accounted for 34 percent of the vote, even though they make up only about one-quarter of the population, according to a July 29 article in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Robert Blendon, who teaches health policy at the Harvard School of Public Health, says elderly voters fear the Ryan plan could undermine support for Medicare among younger taxpayers by denying current benefits to future retirees.

But the current Democratic edge might disappear quickly if elderly voters associated Obama with program cuts that could come under the deficit-cutting deal.

"If their take-away is that neither party stood up for us, Medicare won't play a big role," said Blendon, who co-authored the New England Journal of Medicine article.

(Reporting by David Morgan; Editing by Michele Gershberg and Vicki Allen)

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JoeAnomie
06:36 PM on 08/16/2011
Ryan and company can gut Medicare, they will have the best medical coverage for the rest of their lives and not need to worry about paying for it. As long as he is covered he could are less about the rest of the nation, especially the middle class.
11:34 AM on 08/06/2011
Great plan. Kill off all the seniors by denying them decent health care they can afford, and then siphon off the money for all the congress members' pork and they can raise their salaries and their pensions while enjoying free health care at Walter Reed.
06:14 PM on 08/05/2011
Social Security and Medicare has not added one penny to the National debt. The working Americans and their employers pay FICA taxes for 40 or more years.

The average monthly payment to SS recipient is $1,000, and from that is deducted a Medicare premium of $96.40, a drug plan premium of $35. or more, co-pays and deductibles for doctors, specialist, hospital care, etc., and they pay rent or mortgages, food, clothing, transportation, utilities, sales taxes.
A Fascist would consider cutting SS and Medicare.

The lazy, bushcheney administration and the lazy republicans in Congress let the pharmaceutical company lobbyists write the Medicare part D drug plan that increased cost to Medicare recipients from 25-55%. They also prevented Medicare from negotiating with the drug companies for lower drug prices as the VA does. Duh bush tried to prevent people from getting the same quality American drugs in Mexico, Canada and from the Internet

The Medicare bill was rewritten by the lobbyists for private health insurers that gave 25% of Medicare to them with their Advantage plans that cost $1,000 more than Medicare.

Sources:
www.commonwealthfund.org, and www.state healthfacts.org.

Sources on SS:
www.socialsecurity.gov/history/trustfunds.html.
www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData?fyOps.html.
www.ncpssm.org.
www.slate.com/toolbar.aspx?action=.
www.slate.com/id/2093707.
www.thenation.com/article/looting-social-security.
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/07/07/social_security_deficit/index.html..
11:35 AM on 08/06/2011
Wish the Teabaggers could get that--but it does require a modicum of thinking.
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HaroldHeckubah
Off off Broadway
12:43 AM on 08/05/2011
Next up for the American Tealiban, do-it-yourself throat cutting, otherwise known as voting Republican. Democrats want to fix what's wrong, and Republicans want to do a Kervorkian on the entire country, if only to get Obama out of office.
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MamacitaOfLove
Micro-bio curious
12:32 AM on 08/05/2011
Do it. This will finally get people into the streets.
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Tom Servo
Please Proceed
11:20 PM on 08/04/2011
Von Ryan's Death Panels.
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bohol2528
of course I am a agitator, I design t shirts
11:10 PM on 08/04/2011
Hey republabaggers, hands off my health care!
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pollclaire
jeu d'esprit
11:00 PM on 08/04/2011
The 'pending bankruptcy of Medicare' happens in ten years, and it happens if...

A) We refuse to increase funding
B) We remain a for-profit health care system.

So Ryan has a plan, and we should all get on board? Well sure, in 1933 the Germans had a plan too, but that doesn't mean it was a good one, or that you should vote for it.

Bringing insurance companies into the Medicare loop is like throwing a fox into your chicken coop. They are guaranteed to do two things; Make profits from public dollars, and ration care to protect those profits.Th­e Ryan plan is not about saving America, or reducing debt, or helping seniors, it's about Ryan serving the interests that paid to elect him.

The insurance companies have a demographi­­­­­­­c problem. The baby boomers are transition­­­­­­­ing into subsidized care, and the generation behind them doesn't have their same level of access to employer-s­­­­­­­pons­o­r­e­d health insurance­­­. The business model for health insurance is about to become less profitable­­­­­­­.

What to do? Keep the boomers paying into the private insurance system.

Destroy the competitio­­­­­­­n, in this case, Medicare and public health in general. Take tax dollars and create vouchers, get private individual­­­­­­­s to kick in $6000 extra, and you've created a new publicly-f­­­­­­­inan­c­e­d entitlemen­­­­­­­t... for insurance companies.­
07:58 PM on 08/05/2011
Many states are finding out that privatization actually costs more when state employees ran those institutions.
Arizona and Virginia have found out that private run prisons cost more.

Many states have problems with corruption centered around charter schools in NY, VA, OH, FL, TX, CA, and NV.In Some states states have to pay for the cost of charter school misdeeds.
Just type in-"Charter School Corruption"
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jeu d'esprit
08:19 PM on 08/05/2011
I'm from a suburb of Milwaukee, so we're familiar with the abuses and the lack of accountability when it comes to voucher schools. Administrators who buy themselves a mercedes sedan while there are classrooms without teachers, money laundering, etc. Lots of voucher schools could probably be prosecuted under the RICO statutes.
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pollclaire
jeu d'esprit
08:21 PM on 08/05/2011
Glad to see that you've taken the time to think through the issue of privatization, and the right-wing propaganda that surrounds it. Not everyone does.
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Tom Servo
Please Proceed
10:19 PM on 08/04/2011
Should be some exciting town halls when the tea party gets a taste of their own medicine.
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mskttylttr
Fasten your seatbelts!
08:05 AM on 08/05/2011
Yes - and it will be a bitter brew!
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FlamingLibrul
09:59 PM on 08/04/2011
This is great news for the Democrats- if they can find a way to actually capitalize on Real America's overwhelming support for Medicare and Medicaid. The Medicare issue has been handed to the Dems on a silver platter. If this issue isn't a wake-up call for how insidious, cynical and downright wrong the right wing agenda is, people really aren't paying attention.
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tampajohn
plan your work work your plan
08:05 PM on 08/04/2011
The TB do not offer solutions ------ the offer is anarchy
06:36 PM on 08/04/2011
and then they call themselves ch, ch, christians
06:31 PM on 08/04/2011
if they get their way, they'll be swapping ambulances for garbage trucks,
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rebelriser
artist, published author, activist
03:28 PM on 08/04/2011
Do you Bagger followers now see the damage you've done by voting for people like Paul Ryan, Eric Canter and Wisconsin's Ron Johnson, Sean Duffy and Gov Walker? We warned you people. Remember this lesson too with the recall elections coming in Wisconsin. I'm especially talking about red faced TeaBagger Kim Simac who hadn't been paying her property & income tax until she decided to run against Jim Holperin. Take our advise now and start worrying about the damage these people would do, and it will effect you adversely too.
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devildog0311usmc
03:20 PM on 08/04/2011
PROBLEM WITH MEDICARE ?? WAY TOO MUCH HOSPITAL--DOCTOR--NURSING HOME FRAUD . NO ONE IS KEEPING AN EYE ON THE CROOKS.
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turbowei
06:36 PM on 08/04/2011
You "cut" all the watchdogs.
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lw1
Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!
08:30 PM on 08/04/2011
watching out for those crooks and punishing them is in Obama's HR bill