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'The View' On Linda Evangelista's Child Support Demand: 'If You Lay, You Pay' (POLL, VIDEO)

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First Posted: 08/03/2011 3:15 pm Updated: 10/03/2011 5:12 am

Mouths dropped and eyes rolled when Linda Evangelista requested $46,000 per month in child support from Francois-Henri Pinault in Manhattan Family Court this week.

So, of course, the gals on "The View" had to put in their two cents, engaging in a typically-lively debate that devolved into utter hilarity.

The argument went a little something like this...

Whoopi plants the seed: "I wonder... Is this a child he wanted to have?"

Sherri takes the bait: "Well I think anytime you lay together, you know there is a chance somebody is going to get pregnant."

Joy to Sherri: "Where did you get this expression 'laying with him'?"

Elisabeth: "It's biblical! It's biblical!"

Barbara: "'To lay with' is such a charming way to discuss intercourse."

Elisabeth: "It's biblical."

The ladies continued to mull over the large sum of money demanded, Pinault's responsibility to pay and whether there are additional responsibilities now for raising the child.

But it all comes down to this motto, care of Elisabeth Hasselbeck:

"This is my new rule: 'If you lay, you pay.'"

Quick Poll

Should Francois-Henri Pinault have to pay up?

OF COURSE! If you lay, you pay.

NO WAY. He may not have even wanted the kid -- and $46,000/month is ridiculous.

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10:03 AM on 08/06/2011
To me, this is the most serious issue between single sexually active men/women in the post-sexual revolution age. And it needs to be confronted and determined. If 2 people are just enjoying each other sexually and one or both have no interest beyond that, what, indeed, is the response if the woman gets pregnant? Let's look at it the other way around, when the woman doesn't want the child and decides to terminate, does the man have the right to take her to court to force her to go through the pregnancy so he can have the child and raise it? We tend not to think about it in those terms because most women want to carry the pregnancy to term. But the mantra of women is "my body, my choice." I know I would not want to be FORCED to bear a child if I did not want to. But it seems as though all bets are off if a man wants to exercise his rights if he did not want to have a child. I don't think it's as cut and dry as you 'lay, you pay.' I think people, and men in particular, should really think twice before have intercourse with a woman who they are adamant about not having a child with.
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GraniteSkyline
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12:19 PM on 08/05/2011
I was wildly impressed that this geezer slept with two super hot women, and got them both pregnant a year apart. Burt then I found out he's only 49--I thought he was 65-70.
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12:19 PM on 08/05/2011
Everyone is getting all wound up and hopping on their particular little bandwagon. It's really not all that complicated. None of us here know all the facts about this story. The only irrefutable fact we are privy to is that these two consenting adults created a child. It doesn't matter who planned what or who didn't, a life was created. The father should pay child support in accordance with state laws because it is the right thing to do, period. Dealing with an unplanned and potentially unwanted pregnancy is one thing, but to completely ignore and/or dismiss personal responsibility for that pregnancy as some here seem to think is ok, is shameful and cowardly. Yes, it really is that simple.
08:16 PM on 08/05/2011
Nicely said. Why is it so difficult for some people to understand that both parents should be supporting and caring for the child...regardless if it was a planned or unplanned pregnancy? As for the amount of support that is being requested, that is a matter between the parents and the courts.
03:11 PM on 08/06/2011
Making men pay for their out-of-wedlock children sounds like the responsible thing to do. But . . . it takes away the traditional incentive for women to demand a ring before sleeping with a guy. Bring back the social stigma, the shame, the crushing burden of being an unwed mother, and you promote responsible behavior throughout society. Feminism has sold women lies about "empowering", consequence-free promiscuity.
08:48 PM on 08/06/2011
Rewrite your sexist statement to say Bring back the social stigma, the shame, the crushing burden of being an unwed FATHER, and you promote responsibl­e behavior throughout society. Yes, a MAN is just as capable of saying to a lady, "We are not married, and therefore I won't be pressuring you to have sex with me."

Another rewrite: Chauvinism (and chauvinists) has sold men lies about "empowerin­g", consequenc­e-free promiscuit­y.
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04:36 PM on 09/26/2011
Call Me Old-Fashioned: "Bring back the social stigma, the shame, the crushing burden of being an unwed mother, and you promote responsibl­e behavior throughout society. Feminism has sold women lies about "empowerin­g", consequenc­e-free promiscuit­y. "

What about the shame and crushing burden and stigma of men sewing their wild oats and sleeping around? Why are women supposed to be stigmatized for enjoying sex and men aren't shamed for having sex? Yes this is old fashioned double standard BS. As long as men avoid holding themselves accountable for their sexual behavior and adhering to double standards that gives them a pass for sexing any woman they want, then society will always be in shambles. One man (as shown in Chenalt's case can impregnate multiple women in one year. 1 woman can only have 1 baby per year. Logical reasoning would be for men to curtail their promiscious ways and stop skeeting and spreading babies all over this already overcrowded planet.
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11:20 AM on 08/05/2011
Guy's have been falling for this scam for years.Prostitution with a twist. She probably could have asked
for more. Judging what she plans to do with the money,it doesn't look like she plans on raising HER child, everyone else will.
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10:29 AM on 08/07/2011
So it's HER fault she got pregnant? Takes two to tango, buddy. He could have NOT had sex with her in the first place.
04:53 AM on 08/05/2011
You know what, I rarely totally cosign on Sherri's comments, but she and Elisabeth are absolutely right: "you lay; you pay". And the comment that he's not a postal worker is right on the money. You're worth billions, then yes, pay millions to your kid, and yes, his mother. Because whether or not he wants to be or is involved with the kid now, he might later, and not only does Evangelista have to raise the child, it is categorically unfair in any situation like this that the kid's mother not be able to keep the child in the lifestyle to which he might become accustomed with his father. $46,000 is excessive, yes, but he can afford it, and so if the court so decides, he should just pay it and shut up. It's hardly going to break the bank. Either way, he should pay something. And it should be a significant something.
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09:53 AM on 08/05/2011
I think you nailed it with the fact that this child should have a similar lifestyle to any of his siblings. We no longer relegate certain children to second tier status based on the circumstances of their birth.  If you use NY's child support calculator, $46,000 is not excessive for the amount of income this man has.
08:50 PM on 08/06/2011
I just wonder, that when child support gets to be that excessive, does it really ALL go towards the child? The child probably doesn't require that much, so what happens to the rest? Does it get saved for the child, or does it get spent on Jimmy Choos?
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05:41 PM on 08/04/2011
Holy Mother of Gõd! $46k is more than my wife and I made last year, combined!
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Equal means equal, hypocrites.
05:08 PM on 08/04/2011
I can't believe this is even a question...of course he should pay, it's HALF his kid.

Unless she decided to abort and then it's ALL hers.

But after it's born...it's HALF his again. He has to pay. She should get every penny.
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12:22 AM on 08/05/2011
Not he shouldn't
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10:31 AM on 08/07/2011
Why not?
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Equal means equal, hypocrites.
05:00 PM on 08/04/2011
Men have sperm...not rights.

Don't like it? Cut it off.
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12:10 PM on 08/05/2011
Ouch!
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01:51 PM on 08/04/2011
I hope the judge in this case makes a landmark decision and says Pinault should pay for a boarding school ( a good one and pay directly to the boarding school not through Linda) and college (directly to the college), and Linda gets nothing. I'm sorry he was basically an unwilling sperm donor and yes he should have used protection and gotten his handlers to give Linda protection of some sort. Linda chose to have this child in spite of not actually wanting it and solely for financial gain - women who do this do not deserve a penny.
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02:19 PM on 08/04/2011
These unscrupulous women like Linda should be taught lessons by the court  by depriving them of money so that others won't do the same thing to the potential children and the men.
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11:42 AM on 08/05/2011
The child should go live with the uber-rich daddy, in the big house. Let her pay child support. For what she is asking in support,it doesn't look like she is planning on changing
a diaper.
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11:25 AM on 08/05/2011
I bought my new truck last year,i overheard the chick in the next cubicle saying to the salesman,that her car payment could only be what she gets in child support. Class act, lucky kids.
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07:07 AM on 08/08/2011
That doesn't tell you anything. Maybe that is how she budgeted. Tough having kids and no car.
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01:15 PM on 08/04/2011
OK, I think both parents need to contribute to that little boy's support. I also agree Ms. Evangelista (who has already told us all how she feels about money . . .no less than $10K per day) may be using this as a way to boost her lifestyle as she can't be making money modeling now. It's a young woman's game.

SO, I think Mr. Pinault also has a responsibility to his child and perhaps the best thing to do is to set up a trust for the little boy with an independent trustee. Evangelista will get reimbursement for expenses and the boy will have a ton of money when he's old enough to deal with it.
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02:16 PM on 08/04/2011
Pinault is not the father - he was basically an unwilling sperm donor and that distinction needs to be made - while yes he should have used protection and ensured Linda received protection - this kid was clearly a plan on Linda's part. This is unfair to men - women who try to gain access to a bank account through this method should NOT be rewarded. He should provide for a boarding school ( a good one that will provide the kid with food and clothes and he pays them directly) and a college and he pays directly.

Thats it.
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03:34 PM on 08/04/2011
Mr. Pinault did not wear a condom, his sperm found their target, and Linda Evangelista had a son. I don't like her. However, Mr. Pinault has a responsibility to the child created as a result of whatever he and Evangelista had.

I still say that a trust until the boy is an adult is the way to go. I do not like your argument that he should pay expenses directly. First, his wife would have a cow. Second, it creates immediate conflict between he and Evangelista. Neither of these is good for the boy who is an innocent pawn in all this. So, in that regard, I do not agree with you.
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03:35 PM on 08/04/2011
You also have absolutely no idea, unless she told you personally, that this was her plan. She's old enough she may have thought she could not conceive. That's as plausible as your statement.
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12:20 PM on 08/04/2011
She has her own money, she doesn't need his. So this suit is not based on meeting the child's needs, that would require Hinault to participate in this child's life. That ain't gonna happen so I suppose getting him to pay up is one way of drawing his attention to the fact that he's not being a father to his kid.
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02:23 PM on 08/04/2011
Why should he be a father - not his fault Linda planned this to get money on the basis of a one night stand. He was irresponsible with regards to contraception but Linda clearly was using this as a means to his bank account. he was basically an unwilling, careless sperm donor NOT a father and the judge should make this distinction in the ruling.

Linda clearly did not care about the reception her kid would receive from the biological father, you can't force a child on a man which is what she is doing and solely for financial gain. She is to blame for this situation of the child not having a father figure.
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04:56 PM on 08/04/2011
Why is it always the woman's fault when an unwanted pregnancy occurs? Guys who don't want children wear condoms or get a vasectomy. The rest play a game of roulette with their sperm and then whine like injured animals when forced to take responsibility by the courts.
10:34 AM on 08/04/2011
I just watched this segment and wondered why Woopi always try to have the last word ....I love her and tend side with her in most argument but I don't like when she tries to use her role as moderator as an opportunity to be pushy with her edgy convictions ....her point was ridiculous and quit confusing at times !!!!
10:24 AM on 08/04/2011
I work for the office of child support and Both need to be held accountable. Not just the man, not just the women. She knew she was still fertile ( I presume), so she could have been more responsible as well.You think that she didn't think for a minute who she was sleeping with??? As adults, there is no, oops, it just happened. I hear all types of stories regarding conception and as a women, we have to be proactive as well. Were not victim to men's sperm in all this. Both are accountable.
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08:26 AM on 08/04/2011
You lay, you pay.

Perfect ad for your local brothel. Shows what women really want.
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01:12 PM on 08/04/2011
Your by line is perfect.
07:55 AM on 08/04/2011
I lost respect for Whoopie. A child is here. Doesn't matter who, what where after the baby is born. It needs to be taken care of and she was making non-sense argument.
10:34 AM on 08/04/2011
It was pathetic ...I tough she lost it !!!