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Geithner: Standard & Poor's Showed 'Terrible Judgment'

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First Posted: 08/07/11 08:39 PM ET Updated: 10/07/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Associated Press) — The credit rating agency Standard & Poor's showed "terrible judgment" in lowering the U.S. government's credit rating, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Sunday.

"They've handled themselves very poorly. And they've shown a stunning lack of knowledge about the basic U.S. fiscal budget math," Geithner said in his first public comments about the credit rating decision.

Interviewed on CNBC, Geither said that U.S. Treasury securities were just as safe now as they were before S&P announced its downgrade. He predicted that China and investors would remain strong purchasers of U.S. government debt.

Republicans have blamed President Barack Obama for the first-ever downgrade of the government's credit rating.

But Geithner said Congress owns the credit rating because the Constitution gives Congress the power to tax and spend.

Late Friday, S&P announced it was lowering its rating for U.S. debt one notch from AAA to AA+.

The other two major credit rating agencies, Moody's Investor service and Fitch Ratings, have not lowered their AAA ratings, although they have warned of a possible downgrade if more is not done to deal with soaring federal deficits.

The rating agencies were sharply criticized after the 2008 financial crisis for continuing to give top ratings securities backed by subprime mortgages. When the mortgages went bad, investors lost billions of dollars and the resulting financial crisis sent the country into a deeper recession.

Geithner alluded to those problems in his interview Sunday, saying about the credit agencies: "Look at the quality of judgments they've made in the past."

The administration has also accused S&P of a $2 trillion error in its estimate of the size of the deficits over the next decade because the agency made a fundamental error in interpreting budget projections of the Congressional Budget Office.

S&P officials say they changed the part of the draft press release where Treasury said it discovered the mistake but that this did not alter their basic assessment.

S&P said the political "brinksmanship" on display in the prolonged battle over the raising the nation's borrowing limit underscored a deep divide between the political parties that raised concerns over the ability of Congress to come up with a credible plan to deal with the long-term deficit problem.

S&P had been warning for months of a possible downgrade and said that a credible plan would need to achieve $4 trillion in deficit reduction. The plan that Congress passed last week seeks to achieve between $2.1 trillion and $2.4 trillion in deficit cuts.

Geithner refused to forecast whether the credit downgrade would result in higher interest rates for the government, businesses and consumers.

But he said, "I think everyone can be confident around the world, that Treasuries are the ... most liquid, the strongest place to put your money at a time like this."

He said he had "absolutely no concern" that China, the largest foreign holder of U.S. government debt, would stop buying that debt.

"They've been very strong and I'm sure they'll be strong investors in the U.S. going forward as will investors around the world," he said.

A critical editorial by China's state-run news agency on Saturday said that the United States must "cure its addiction to debts."

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WASHINGTON (Associated Press) — The credit rating agency Standard & Poor's showed "terrible judgment" in lowering the U.S. government's credit rating, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Sunday...
WASHINGTON (Associated Press) — The credit rating agency Standard & Poor's showed "terrible judgment" in lowering the U.S. government's credit rating, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Sunday...
WASHINGTON (Associated Press) — The credit rating agency Standard & Poor's showed "terrible judgment" in lowering the U.S. government's credit rating, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Sunday...
WASHINGTON (Associated Press) — The credit rating agency Standard & Poor's showed "terrible judgment" in lowering the U.S. government's credit rating, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Sunday...
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02:30 PM on 08/16/2011
WOW, Look at the job Geithner did as head of the Treasury Dept. Obama did a poor job when he put this man in charge of America's Money. Our Credit Rating fell like a rock. Remember this man did not even pay his own taxes. Now Obama says he will keep him in charge. Elections are comeing 2012. If we don't get all the Dems and crooks out by then we as AMERICANS are DOOMED.
BOB
10:29 AM on 08/14/2011
Rob a bank and you get 10 years The Bank robs you and they get a seven figure pension.

Factors that contribute to rioting are population size, the breakdown of respect for social order, poverty, the lack of opportunities for personal advancement and Debt.

Today the people that led the world into debt by their corrupt practises within the Banking, Insurance, and Financial sector have been reappointed by President Obama to head his financial team. No one has been brought to justice for the debt all the world is now paying and rioting about.

All the banks had AAA status just before they collapsed from Standard and Poor the same people who have just downgraded USA economy?

If you check the facts you will find a transfer of wealth from the poorest to the top one percent and these crooks are still running all our economies.
This was achieved by getting companies like standard and poor to give false assessments of bad debt which was then sold to our pension funds as triple A.
Whilst ever these crooks go unpunished and are rewarded by huge golden handshakes and top government jobs, riots will get worse.

We all have a remedy it is our vote and a free press.
Make sure you give your vote wisely and all the politicians who supported crooked bankers, insurance companies, are swept from power.
To the press it is time to expose these crooks. Name and Shame
12:56 PM on 08/10/2011
The issues are fairly basic. First, it is the responsibility to Congress to present a reasonable budget (one that the President will sign). This congress won't budge an inch on the revenue side, even though our tax rates are at historic lows (doesn't anyone remember the 91% federal tax rate under Eisenhower?) Educate yourself. Look up historic Federal tax rates. All Obama was asking for was an additional 2% on those people making over $400,000. The country's Federal tax burden as a percentage of GDP (the absolute way to measure it and understand it in historic terms) is at 15% today - the lowest since the Korean war - that per Senator Alan Simpson, a deficit hawk and Republican. These are HUGE problems on the "revenue" side, and the inability of the GOP and Tea Party to comprimise for the good of the country is outrageous. On the side of the President, our continued involvement in the two major wars is a serious drain on American capital. Both Bush and Obama are responsible for this.
It's all about balance - cutting unnecessary spending, but also increasing investment in areas when needed. And balance is one component in Washington that seems to have evaporated. I find that incredibly sad, and at times bordering on treason.
04:02 PM on 08/10/2011
Alexander, that 91% tax was on folks making $200,000/year or greater. In 1952, $200,000 was akin to around $10,000,000 in today's terms. Not many folks made that kind of money back then. Corporate compensation packages had not gotten as high, relatively speaking, as they are today. We aren't concerned with folks making $10,000,000/year. Our concern should rightly be helping those small businesses; the LLCs, the S corps, and sole proprietorships who are making $400,000/year. These folks are the backbone of this country and have generated 64 percent of net new jobs over the past 15 years.(www.sba.gov). That $400,000 must go toward building overhead, payroll, insurance, licensing, supplies, fuel costs, and a host of other miscellaneous expenses that small businesses have to deal with. Most see very little net profit after expenses come out. Even less after the tax man takes his chunk. Before we increase taxes, we must agree on draconian spending cuts. I do like what you say about balance but then we would be expecting the government to be acting like a real corporation, with responsibility to its shareholders, its employees, and its clients. The government under the current paradigm, just doesn't work that way. If you want someone who knows how to run a company and turn it around, take a look at Herman Cain. He is the only candidate so far that has that kind of experience.
11:25 AM on 08/10/2011
Ok, let's think about this again.

Who has terrible judgement? The ones who put us in this mess (Mr. Geithner, et al.), or the ones who let the facts speak for themselves, calling a spade a spade?

What we are getting now is just some more name calling and finger pointing. Real solutions are out of the range of comprehension of this crew in DC.

The real problem is that Washington does not see or agree there is a problem, just like the folks who have to go bankrupt before they even think there is a concern.

WOW!
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Domari Nolo
12:19 AM on 08/10/2011
If someone could form Geithner's head into a puck - I'd let Happy Gilmore take some shots with it. †
05:07 PM on 08/09/2011
Saw something on FOX NEWS that just pisses off .We are gave china $275 million dollars between 2001-2010 . Then in 2010 we gave $47 million . Then $17 million for something else i didnt catch what for.....all of this went to the study of why they smoke over their.Another study went to study thier retirement. Another was to study thier prostitution. This had something to do with ( THE DEMOCRACY OF HUMAN RIGHTS.)....what kind of B.S is the country doing? WE HAVE TO CALL EVERY DAMN CROOK IN WASHINGTON AND DEMAND THIS STOP. Thanks fox news for showing us the truth.
05:06 PM on 08/09/2011
Tim Geithner, step down. You told us in April that the USA would never be downgraded. You lied. The White House staff believed you. Congress believed you. The president believed you. Your credibility is Zero. You've been downgraded to the end on the unemployment line, dude.
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Cowboylove
04:38 PM on 08/09/2011
It is absurd that Standard and Poors downgraded US Credit Rating based on politics rather than substance. Of particular note, although the market collapsed on the news, notably US Treasuries soared as money form all over poured into Treasuries, lowering their effective rate. So while Standard and Poors downgraded treasuries, the world bough t them like they were going out of style.
03:35 PM on 08/09/2011
Sorry about the typo:"2 Trillion dollar" , not "2 billion"
03:32 PM on 08/09/2011
For the Obama administration to accuse S&P of a 2 billion mistake in their math is just a well crafted lie to distract from the current economic quagmire. As Timmy and his staff of rationalizers at Treasury knew, all the rating agencies use prediction modeling to determine the effect of current conditions on future economic viability. The Treasury has its own set of inflation factors it uses for its economic modeling for political purposes. Timmy and the bunch, were upset that the rating agencies didn't use their factors instead of the standard ones used by S&P. This was not poor math, it was typical Obama political denigration strategy applied to S&P via a cleverly created lie.
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Guy Fratianni
my micro has gone bio
04:54 PM on 08/09/2011
Time and time again they warned the Tea Party that if you don't up the debt ceiling this would happen....they have played with it toyed with it and it happened...so now even though the Republican controlled Congress was warned it's Obamas fault?
05:11 PM on 08/09/2011
Thank God for the TEA Party. I believe this downgrade is a wake up call for Washington to get our fiscal house in order, something the TEA Party has been saying since forming little over 2 yrs ago. BTW, to blame it solely on them is ridiculous. First time the debt ceiling was over a trillion was in 1985. It was $900 million in 1980. What are we today? $14.5 trillion. I'd like to see what members of the house and senate were around then who kept the spending going. These are the people I blame who gave us the mess we're in today.
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jerry allbright
The good of the many outweighs the good of the few
03:26 PM on 08/09/2011
It's obvious to me that S&P had something to gain by lowering the credit rating and as I watch the Dow fall I notice that many of the companies owned by McGraw Hill (owner of S&P) don't seem to be affected to the same degree. Makes me wonder if they cashed out before Friday's announcement.
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cityzenXY
Shining the light of reality on moonbats
02:56 PM on 08/09/2011
Deflect blame who didn't see that coming...
02:55 PM on 08/09/2011
Standard & Poor's show their colors. They lauded the subprime fraud and now this. Idiots.
01:18 PM on 08/09/2011
Someone made a $1billion bet on a US downgrade. Wonder how much of a kickback S&P and even Geithner may have made on the deal?? Because we know they all have the same stripes.
05:12 PM on 08/09/2011
wonder how much george soros made on the deal.
12:35 PM on 08/09/2011
Where in the Hell were S&P when Geithner was working in the Banking Industry. You would get better info from a card reader. S&P= Stupid Predictions^^
01:58 PM on 08/09/2011
Graeme Outerbridge, S&P - like all the Ratings Agencies- views the world through their rear view mirror. They are among the last to know when a problem develops. Yet even recognizing that, one wonders where they were when Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac went down. Point well taken.