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Afghanistan Helicopter Crash: Chinook Caught Fire After Being Hit (VIDEO)

DEB RIECHMANN   08/11/11 10:42 PM ET   AP

KABUL, Afghanistan — Afghan children retrieved souvenir-sized pieces of a helicopter shot down by the Taliban in eastern Afghanistan where witnesses on Thursday described seeing the chopper burst into flames and break apart before falling from the sky, killing 30 U.S. troops and eight Afghans.

Coalition forces finished recovering the victims' remains and big sections of the wreckage. Yet small, twisted pieces of the Chinook CH-47 remain scattered on both sides of a slow-flowing river in Wardak province where it crashed before dawn Saturday.

Farhad, a local resident, told Associated Press Television News that the helicopter was shot down by a rocket-propelled grenade fired from a nearby knoll as it was preparing to land.

"As soon as it was hit, it started burning," he said, standing in a field still littered with small pieces of the chopper, including a part of a scorched rifle stamped "Made in Germany" and a piece of charred paper with typewritten first aid instructions.

"After it started burning, it crashed. It came down in three pieces," he added. "We could see it burning from our homes."

Many of the victims' bodies were badly mangled and burned, said Farhad, who like many Afghans uses only one name.

The crash about 60 miles (97 kilometers) southwest of Kabul was the deadliest single loss for U.S. forces in the nearly 10-year Afghan war.

The crash comes amid fears that the country is far from stable even though U.S. and NATO forces have begun to leave Afghanistan. U.S. military officials have tried to counter those fears, saying that while the downing of the Chinook was a tragic setback, one crash will not determine the course of the war.

The victims included 17 members of the elite Navy SEALs, five Naval Special Warfare personnel who support the SEALs, three Air Force Special Operations personnel, an Army helicopter crew of five, seven Afghan commandos and an Afghan interpreter.

Gul Agha, another resident of Tangi Valley, also said that after the helicopter crashed, parts were burning on either side of the Tangi River. Some of the debris also ended up on a nearby hillside, he said.

"When the helicopter came at night, the Taliban were hiding in the bushes around the area," he said.

He said coalition forces worked several days to remove victims' remains. Then they blew up sections of the helicopter into smaller pieces, loaded them on trucks and took them from the site, he said.

Marine Corps Gen. John Allen, the top commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, said Wednesday that F-16 fighter jets killed the insurgents responsible for the crash. But the military provided few details to back up the claim.

The U.S.-led coalition has also said the helicopter was apparently shot down by a rocket-propelled grenade. But Allen said the military will investigate whether other causes contributed to the crash.

Alam Gul, chief of the local council in Sayd Abad district where the crash occurred, said many villagers were up at the time because it is the holy month of Ramadan when Muslims fast during the day, break fast in the evening and then get up and eat again around 2 a.m. for sustenance to make it through the day.

He said people in the Tangi Valley worry that the U.S. will take revenge and bomb their villages. He insisted that no major Taliban figures were living or hiding out in the area, where many locals don't side with the U.S.-led coalition or the Afghan government.

"The foreigners are guests, but what has changed in 10 years?" Gul said residents ask. "Yes, you are our guests, but you have done a lot of bad things."

He said frequent night raids in and around his district have angered local residents, who are offended by knocks on their doors in the middle of the night when families are sleeping.

Coalition forces left a combat outpost in Tangi, less than a mile (about 1 kilometer) from the crash site, in the spring. They took their expensive equipment, but left other items, like freezers, Gul said. The Taliban retrieved the items and had a yard sale, he said. Afghans from the surrounding area came to shop. Then, instead of occupying the outpost, Gul said the Taliban booby-trapped it with bombs.

In Washington, the Pentagon on Thursday released the list of the 30 killed in the Chinook shootdown, along with their ages, hometowns and states.

Also Thursday, five U.S. troops were killed by a roadside bomb in southern Afghanistan.

On Wednesday, a NATO service member died in a roadside bomb blast and five Afghan policemen were killed when their checkpoint was attacked by Taliban insurgents, the coalition and Afghan police said.

The latest deaths, which raised to 374 the number of international forces killed so far this year, underscored the tenuous nature of the war.

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Associated Press writer Amir Shah in Kabul contributed to this report.

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omobob
left coast, usa
01:34 PM on 08/12/2011
there is little question that Afghanistan is far from any kind of stability. With this kind of gross mismanagement and woefully inadequate leadership that would allow such a fubar op to take place in the first place, Afghanistan never will be secure. Some General should be on a plane home, heading for as quick early retirement.
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sve
Behave yourselves!
03:56 PM on 08/11/2011
I thought we already got bin Laden. Why are we still there?
02:43 PM on 08/11/2011
RPGs are very simple very dumb whepons. To hit a helicopter with one is pure luck and I'm sure it took a barrage of them to do this. In WWII a landing craft going into a beach might hit a mine and sixty or more men would be lost all at once; a ship might be sunk by a U-boat and hundreds migh die but in this day and time we loose a couple dozen and we are ready to cut an run.
02:54 PM on 08/11/2011
Modern day soldiers are pansies and to fearsome of death.
03:32 PM on 08/11/2011
No not modern day soldiers but what you say applies to modern day civilians. "The army wend to war and America went to the mall"
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bob40wil
11:54 AM on 08/12/2011
That was for Practicality.
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
03:49 PM on 08/11/2011
It probably wasn't a RPG. That was said to allay fears that the insurgents now are getting more sophisticated weapons, like heat-seeking, ecm-guided, optically-guided, or sonar-guided missiles.
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sophie M
ANTI WAR./animal rescue
02:32 PM on 08/11/2011
very sickening, 5 more American soldiers killed today..there..
i just don't understand how pols and generals.........can live with themselves.
02:24 PM on 08/11/2011
The psyop against the American people continue...
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jrb35
They are completely ignorant of space-war tactics.
02:58 PM on 08/11/2011
Explain
03:23 PM on 08/11/2011
no I will not explain because it is against the guidelines to speak of conspiracy theories. My post will be deleted and I could get banned. No thank you.
01:59 PM on 08/11/2011
This is very different, I have the feeling that they knew who was on that chopper. I was an Forward Observer front lines in the jungle Viet Nam, Bronze Star Purple Heart, I rode on huee 1 b a lot very little on Chinooks they were to carry 155's and big cargo, and gatling guns and big lights so in the dark we could see the enemy. I can't make sence out of this one, In my heart it looks like they knew who was in the Chinook, How sad it breaks my heart, I'd like to add a commet about the Boys (Men) over there. At a young age it really affects there lives in there mind and they won't come home thinging right, I'm sorry to tell you all this. For me 15 years of theraphy, Trama Theraphy was the last one and that took a year. I did it for my new wife so I could be better for her, That was the Trama part. I have PTSD sever. So I take my hat off for our Men and thank you so very much, Stephen Johnson
10:14 AM on 08/12/2011
thank you, my dad is over there in Tangia Valley. 2 of the 5 army helicopter crewmen were his best friends. my dads 45yrs old, that determination to put your entire life on hault to do better for your country.
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bob40wil
11:56 AM on 08/12/2011
Be proud of your father, I wish him a safe home.
09:43 PM on 08/12/2011
I'm very proud of your Dad and your family. This is hard on every one, God Bless you, I pray your Father comes home safe and you all are happy. I have a lot of tears in my eyes right now, I felt the same way, for my country, what true Americans your whole family are. Thank you for writting me back, it means a lot to me and I'll bet your father is very proud of you, I sure am, God Bless you all, with the greatest of respect from one man to another. It is the greatest action a man can take for all of us and our Country, You can share this with him, and thank him for me, I care a lot, for all of your family, in fact for all of them, God please watch over our Great men, who care for our country, Steve Johnson
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researcher
12:58 PM on 08/11/2011
america is the nation that supplied the taliban with stinger missles to shoot down russian planes.

now what would americans think if russia did the same?

this is a nation that killed one million vietnamese when we got involved in their civil war in south vietnam. few americans knew that the south vietnamese were fighting each other.

we americans have met the enemy and it is not them but us. self destruction from within.

at least this go around with iraq and afghan I dont see bumper stickers saying america love it or leave it.

of course we dont have protests like we did with the nam war. draft thing and college students cannot get off their cell phones long enough to protest.

oh to find one teen not texting 24/7. just one. :-)
02:39 PM on 08/11/2011
There is a vast difference between a stinger missle and an RPG you need to learn it.
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
12:56 PM on 08/11/2011
Anyone wanting to know how the US/NATO is dealing with "finding" insurgent combatants should see the excellent movie, In the Name of the Father (1993).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_Father_(film)
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MA
progressive not obsessive
12:50 PM on 08/11/2011
What was the cost of the RPG that brought down a multimillion helecopter and tragically 30 or more highly trained men at what cost apiece? $10? $5?.
Face it, we don't belong there. If the Afghans are so freedom loving let them fight for themselves.
!0 years! 10 years of blood and treasure wasted on this corrupt, medieval country.
GET OUT NOW!
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sunbeltvoter
Teapublican Evangelical Cults ARE The Problem
03:01 PM on 08/11/2011
A quick google search suggests that new the launcher cost $500 and the warheads are about $100 each for the RPG 7. Heck of a lot cheaper than a Stinger. However the RPG is effective for about 300 to 500 yards, and it all depends on the skill of the shooter as it is a dumb projectile.

For $40,000 up a Stinger is self guided and has lots of electronics and goes three miles.
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
12:49 PM on 08/11/2011
Good thing they were able to take those excellent photos of the perps that fired the missile from behind the trees. Without those, they would have never been able to identify the charred remains of those perps they blew up a week later.
02:41 PM on 08/11/2011
Are you sure we did get them..and not some poor local villager to it make us feel better at home-in other words propaganda at any cost?
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sunbeltvoter
Teapublican Evangelical Cults ARE The Problem
03:02 PM on 08/11/2011
Let's see, they all wear robes and a head covering. They all have beards. They all look alike. But the one they bombed was a bad guy. For sure. So they say
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
03:47 PM on 08/11/2011
You missed the sarcasm in my comment.
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Cognitive Dissident
True "commonsense" is having a gun.
12:47 PM on 08/11/2011
From the nature of the posts being disallowed here today, it seems that HuffPost is not allowing any disparagement of this war, beyond saying, "Bring them home."

"Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky
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researcher
01:00 PM on 08/11/2011
huff post will change over time. new corp owners.

a couple of years ago huff post would post about anything not today. must pass the political tests.
02:46 PM on 08/11/2011
It is hard to belive that at one time HP would publish articles by Andrew Breitbart (their co founder) and now I would not be surprised if they would not publish this comment because it contains his name.
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cowgrrl
Abnormal Psychologist
07:00 PM on 08/12/2011
my 2nd post says only this: gonna ban me again for these words?
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12:42 PM on 08/11/2011
It may serve some purpose to know how many pieces the helicopter was in when it crashed but we still don't know why we are still fighting a crappy little war with no purpose.
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DungBeetle
Rolling Neocons Into A Ball
12:28 PM on 08/11/2011
Why the need for this headline?

Yesterday's headline said that the US military had killed the person who shot down the helicopter.

I guess I assumed that the helicopter was on fire after being shot with an RPG.

Is it breaking news that it was on fire?
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Cognitive Dissident
True "commonsense" is having a gun.
12:28 PM on 08/11/2011
If it hadn't been for those guys on the Chinook the Taliban would surely have overrun our country a couple of days ago, replaced our government and changed our American way of life forever.

But this war is only about profits, you say? Shame on you....
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OB-GYN
To Your Health, America. Live Long and Prosper!
12:28 PM on 08/11/2011
Oh, can't we just take our Troops and leave this horrid place. This can't be our war any longer.