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Tea Party Favorite Ken Cuccinelli Backs Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann On Gay Marriage And States' Rights


First Posted: 08/11/11 02:27 PM ET Updated: 10/11/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Support for marriage equality is not a popular position among those in the 2012 Republican primary field. All of the major candidates oppose it. Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman is the only one to even back civil unions.

But increasingly, there is also a subtle divide between Republicans who believe that states have the right to allow same-sex marriage, and those who think they don't.

On Wednesday, the states' rights proponents received a boost from one of the Tea Party's favorite politicians, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (R), who said the best course on marriage might be to "leave it to each state."

When New York legalized same-sex marriage, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) commented, "That is up to the people of New York. I think that it’s best to allow the people to decide on this issue. I think it's best if there is an amendment that goes on the ballot, where people can weigh in."

Similarly, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), who has not yet jumped into the presidential field, said last month he was "fine with" states allowing gay individuals to wed, although he personally opposed the practice. He was quickly criticized by former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, a presidential candidate.

"States do not have the right to destroy the American family. It is our business," he said. "It is not fine with me that New York has destroyed marriage. It is not fine with me that New York is setting a template that will cause great division in this country."

"Washington needs a refresher course on the 10th Amendment," Perry said in response.

The 10th Amendment states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

On Wednesday, Cuccinelli referenced the 10th Amendment and expressed his support for states' rights in an interview with Ryan Nobles of NBC12 News in Richmond, Va.

Cuccinelli, a favorite of Tea Party activists, made clear that he opposes same-sex marriage, but also noted the only way it can be outlawed nationally is through a constitutional amendment.

"I think it was in 1971 or 1974, the Supreme Court ruled marriage is not a subject that the federal government can exercise jurisdiction over, including the courts. To do that, we would need an amendment to the Constitution," he said in the interview. "Now the only amendment I would expect to see to the Constitution would be a nationwide protection of traditional marriage and restricting marriage to one man and one woman."

Nobles then asked about the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage federally as between one man and one woman, and therefore deprives individuals in same-sex relationships from federal benefits afforded to heterosexual married couples. It doesn't, however, necessarily outlaw marriage equality in the states, a point which Cuccinelli conceded.

"There doesn't have to be uniformity," he added. "I certainly see that as one possible course that we get on. There's nothing constitutionally or historically that demands that this be addressed uniformly across the country. Frankly, I think it's worth some consideration for the things that aren't reached by the federal constitution, to just leave it to each state. That's where abortion law was before Roe v. Wade."

Cuccinelli is certainly no supporter of LGBT rights. In the past, he has said that homosexual acts are "intrinsically wrong" and "not healthy" to society. So his declaration that states should have the right to implement same-sex marriage pleasantly surprised a national gay and lesbian Republican organization.

"The Cuccinelli position surprised me," said Christian Berle, deputy executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans. "He is somebody who rarely has found anything but negative to say about gay and lesbian Americans. I think Santorum has said a few things here and there during his tenure, but it is very difficult to find something from Ken Cuccinelli."

WATCH THE NBC12 INTERVIEW:


Conservatives often invoke the 10th Amendment to combat the federal government's intervention on issues like health care and child labor laws.

But when it comes to marriage equality, they have been more hesitant to invoke the amendment.

"The 10th Amendment and states' rights is very important to conservatives, but it's not our highest value," Gary Bauer, president of the conservative advocacy group American Value, told RealClearPolitics. "There are some things so fundamentally wrong that we have not left those things up to the states."

Santorum also seems to take this view. But other traditionally strong social conservatives, like Bachmann, Perry and Cuccinelli, apparently believe states have the right to legalize same-sex marriage, unless there is a constitutional amendment banning the practice -- an idea they wholeheartedly back.

Berle said the push for a constitutional amendment isn't likely to go anywhere, in large part because a growing portion of the American public has come to support same-sex marriage.

"I do believe that candidates talking about the 10th Amendment and states' rights reflects a movement nationwide in the view towards gay and lesbian Americans and same-sex relationships," said Berle. "I think a number of leaders, whether they be presidential candidates, whether they be members of Congress, believe that pushing for a constitutional amendment is a win-win situation. It can please their base -- these are individuals who are not going to make strides across the aisle -- and [lawmakers] recognize it's never going to get out of Congress."

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WASHINGTON -- Support for marriage equality is not a popular position among those in the 2012 Republican primary field. All of the major candidates oppose it. Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman is the ...
WASHINGTON -- Support for marriage equality is not a popular position among those in the 2012 Republican primary field. All of the major candidates oppose it. Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman is the ...
WASHINGTON -- Support for marriage equality is not a popular position among those in the 2012 Republican primary field. All of the major candidates oppose it. Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman is the ...
WASHINGTON -- Support for marriage equality is not a popular position among those in the 2012 Republican primary field. All of the major candidates oppose it. Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman is the ...
 
 
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framefiller
Left of Attilla the Hun, but still left
03:56 PM on 09/08/2011
Rick Perry and the Tea Party are an American aberration. Each day that passes anyone can see that the clear direction of the Tea Party is to completely change the US Constitution and American life. History or what has stood for over two hundred years means little to these people. The Tea Party was not started to represent American's, but was formulated to start a new country. It is a sham that the traditional Republicanism and party has abdicated in favor of this radical right wing extremism, and allowed the takeover of one of our mainstream political parties. The Tea Party is an aberration because they have only been around for three years or less, and if they fail in their attempt to install a new American government, they will be gone in the same period of time. American's must be vigilant all of the time or some group of people, like the Tea Party, will slip in and fundamentally change our country.
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Jose Hill
Predictor...has a good ring to it.
11:33 AM on 08/22/2011
When will people understand that you can't have it both ways. Gay Marrige is inevitable. Just get over it already!!!
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Wayne Peterson
12:04 PM on 08/13/2011
The Virginia Guv'nr is part of a long and shameful line of bigoted laws passed by his state, so why not yet another one? In this case, he wants to convert the US Constitution to an "Unequal Protection Clause"! How very Virginian!!!!
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LoyalBob
God is more vast than the Bible.
10:24 AM on 08/13/2011
States rights. Republi-speak for 'we hate gays.'
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Neenerpuss
If you cant laugh at yourself...someone else will
02:58 PM on 08/13/2011
States rights is what caused the CIVIL WAR. The south said it was "states rights" to legalize slavery. Now they want to its "states rights" to say who is able to marry who.
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groovybeans
10:27 PM on 08/12/2011
If I start to "pray away the gay," is it possible that Marcus Bachmann will dematerialize?
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talkstocoyotes
06:08 AM on 08/14/2011
If he does, Michele Bachmann will be without a "spiritual head".
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Wayne Peterson
10:14 PM on 08/12/2011
How Novel!! Amend the US Constitution to create an "Unequal Protection Clause" to ban only same sex, loving couples from marrying! Well, then as long as the door is open, let's amend it to ban those whose initials are MB
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Gay Pagan Man, Living Happily With Husband
08:33 PM on 08/13/2011
You know, at times the bigotry of the right, along with their arrogance, are almost breaktaking, though most of the time they make me want to throw up. Their lives are not affected by any rights we have or may gain, but out of sheer spite and prejudice they wish to limit our lives.

Have you noticed that there is little, if any positivity in the speeches of these people. Instead of appealing to the better part of us and the need to pull together as a nation, they seek to exploit fear and to divide this country. These people are traitors.
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talkstocoyotes
06:09 AM on 08/14/2011
One of the best indicators of how far the GOP has sunk is the proclamation of their support of "states rights" as a step forward. And with no sense of irony, apparently.
10:43 AM on 08/15/2011
If you don't want to throw-up get off your knees and get that thing out of your mouth.
05:50 PM on 08/12/2011
If marriage is between one man and one woman then why do all the politicians divorce their wives and marry their girlfriends then get divorced and remarried a few more times, isn't that marriage between one man and 3 or 4 or more women???
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Flip75
What's wrong with my micro-bio?
07:55 PM on 08/12/2011
And let's not forget that they sneak around and pay 18 year old boys in Indiana for some good times on the DL.
09:42 PM on 08/12/2011
A good reason not to raise taxes on them, they are putting that money back into the economy.
NYC619
Tri-corn hats cannot fit block heads
12:42 PM on 08/12/2011
Why don't Nagger Baggers just pray gay marriage away? If they prayed away their brains, hearts and morals surely it would work for gay marriage as well.
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bradenton
12:41 PM on 08/12/2011
Corporate religion is for dumb people.
12:34 PM on 08/12/2011
Shouldn't the separation of church and state disqualify these people from holding office?
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Tony Rochon
Trying to fly under the radar
12:33 PM on 08/12/2011
It is really sad that Cuccinelli got elected, since one of the points he ran on was that he would not enforce any law that he personally did not agree with.
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Atwill
Christian puppets scare me
12:31 PM on 08/12/2011
The more I heard from the GOP and the Reps and the Tea party, the more I am convinced we need Obama for another 4. OBAMA 2012
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Flip75
What's wrong with my micro-bio?
07:56 PM on 08/12/2011
I'm no longer enthusiastic for O, but he's certainly the lesser of two evils.
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Atwill
Christian puppets scare me
09:23 PM on 08/12/2011
I agree. I think he is the lesser. Really, I wanted Hillary.
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FantasticFourFan
Fred Phelps represents all gay marriage opponents
11:44 AM on 08/12/2011
We got another one!:

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/issue/
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FantasticFourFan
Fred Phelps represents all gay marriage opponents
11:25 AM on 08/12/2011
Cons support small government...until they just plain don't like something.
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Atwill
Christian puppets scare me
12:22 PM on 08/12/2011
or it goes against thier personal religion.
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rambot02
A modest proposal...