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Kraft, Sara Lee Trade Blows In Wiener War

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First Posted: 08/15/11 10:09 AM ET Updated: 10/15/11 06:12 AM ET

CHICAGO — The nation's largest hot dog makers argued about the meaning of "100 percent pure beef" and the merits of ketchup Monday in a lawsuit over advertising claims stemming from their years of dog-eat-dog competition.

Attorneys for Sara Lee Corp., which makes Ball Park franks, and Kraft Foods Inc., which makes Oscar Mayer, superimposed giant hot dogs on a courtroom screen as they delivered opening remarks in a case that could clarify how far companies can go when boasting about their products.

"There's never been anything of this scope . . . in the entire history of hot dogs," Sara Lee's attorney, Richard Leighton, said about what the company says is Kraft's false and deceptive ad campaign that claimed Oscar Mayer wieners were the best-tasting franks.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Morton Denlow, who will decide if either company broke false advertising laws, couldn't resist a note of levity as he cast his eyes at the attorneys and proclaimed, "Let the wiener wars begin."

The legal dog fight began when Sara Lee filed a lawsuit in 2009, singling out Oscar Mayer ads that brag its dogs beat Ball Park franks in a national taste test. Leighton argued the tests were deeply flawed and gave as an example that the hot dogs were presented to participants without buns or any condiments, such as ketchup.

"They were served boiled hot dogs on a white paper plate," he told Denlow. As a result, Leighton said, Sara Lee's hot dogs may well have tasted too salty or smoky when consumed sans buns.

Among other flaws, he went on, was a rule barring anyone who ever worked in a factory from taking the test.

"You may be excluding blue-collar workers," he said. "And they're big hot-dog eaters."

Kraft filed a countersuit later in 2009, accusing Sara Lee of running ads for Ball Parks with the tagline "America's Best Franks" based on an award from ChefsBest, a food-judging organization based in San Francisco.

The other focus of the trial is Kraft's claim that its Oscar Mayer Jumbo Beef Franks are "100 percent pure beef." Sara Lee says the claim is untrue, that it cast aspersions on Ball Park franks and damaged their sales.

But Kraft's attorney, Stephen O'Neil, told the judge the 100 percent beef tag was never intended to suggest there weren't other ingredients – like water, salt and various spices. It was only meant to convey that the meat that was used was all beef, he said.

That stress was designed to counter lingering impressions that hot dogs contain suspect, "mysterious meats," he added. And he said it defied common sense to argue that consumers might take the label as meaning that the one and only ingredient was beef.

"If there was nothing but beef, it wouldn't be a hot dog," he said, "It would be a hamburger."

Denlow let slip that, according to his own personal tastes, neither Oscar Mayer nor Ball Park are top dog.

"I already have my favorite . . . and it's none of the brands on trial," he told attorneys. He said he may reveal which one it is – but only after a ruling.

The trial is expected to last about two weeks.

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CHICAGO — The nation's largest hot dog makers argued about the meaning of "100 percent pure beef" and the merits of ketchup Monday in a lawsuit over advertising claims stemming from their years of d...
CHICAGO — The nation's largest hot dog makers argued about the meaning of "100 percent pure beef" and the merits of ketchup Monday in a lawsuit over advertising claims stemming from their years of d...
CHICAGO — The nation's largest hot dog makers argued about the meaning of "100 percent pure beef" and the merits of ketchup Monday in a lawsuit over advertising claims stemming from their years of d...
CHICAGO — The nation's largest hot dog makers argued about the meaning of "100 percent pure beef" and the merits of ketchup Monday in a lawsuit over advertising claims stemming from their years of d...
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rayinprague
07:26 PM on 08/18/2011
They are suing because the hot dogs were served without ketchup? Who puts ketchup on a hot dog? Mustard goes on a hot dog. Ketchup goes on a hamburger. Throw the case out.
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12Purple
my microbio isn't empty yet communicates nothing
02:34 PM on 08/17/2011
bleech to both brands
02:00 AM on 08/17/2011
They boiled the hot dogs? Eww, everyone knows the best way to cook them is to have them roll around on those warming rollers for a couple hours. It really concentrates the essence of hot dogs.
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JuergenHartl
Social-Democrat by conviction
10:19 PM on 08/16/2011
If you ever ate ANY sausage in Germany you would not consider any hot dogs. They all taste like sh...
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Jack 5150
06:14 PM on 08/16/2011
I would not feed either one of those wieners to my dog! I am a life long Chicagoan, and Vienna Beef Franks are the ONLY dog in town!!! A little mustard, a little relish, some celery seeds, a few sports and a pickle on a steamed bun, and I'm a happy guy! Oh yeah... I'll need a 64 oz beer to wash that down...
05:30 PM on 08/16/2011
Hebrew national is the 'very' best tasting. End of argument.
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Karl Wilder
03:11 PM on 08/16/2011
Let's settle this now. You BOTH taste awful and ketchup only makes it worse.
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Bishop Coxcomb
10:32 AM on 08/16/2011
Actually, as a consumer who has no idea about how the industry terms works when I hear 100% beef I believe it is 100 percent beef.
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sstevens37
I have the right to hate you
09:54 AM on 08/16/2011
I won't buy Kraft or Sara Lee products anymore, as quality has dropped sharply from both brands over the last decade and a half
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ChiGuy
Just an earthbound misfit, I
12:46 AM on 08/16/2011
Hebrew National all beef hot dogs are every bit as tasty as either Oscar Mayer or Ball Park. And because they are Kosher, have more stringent manufacturing procedures.
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El Chingaso
Fighting for mental superiority...
04:14 AM on 08/16/2011
Yeah, 'cause you don't want to know what's in the other..."dogs."
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ChiGuy
Just an earthbound misfit, I
12:28 PM on 08/16/2011
Unfortunately, having been in the food service industry for 19+ years, I know all too well what is in those things.
(But the truth of the matter is that it has never stopped me from getting one at a local stand when the urge beckons.)
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BlindChance
Have another cherry...
08:13 PM on 08/15/2011
Vienna Beef is the best.
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Susan Schmidt Baker
08:05 PM on 08/15/2011
Guess it's a good thing I don't live in Chicago. I have to have ketchup on my hotdog, unless I'm having a slawdog. Learned to like them when I lived in Florida.
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Jacques Steen
Stop Warfare Against Working Stiffs !
07:28 PM on 08/15/2011
Hebrew National or Nathan's Famous 100% Kosher dogs - 100% PURE BEEF.

Oscar Meyer has RECENTLY started to make 100% beef dogs, but I don't recall seeing a Kosher label on them.
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Wonder Woman2
Whats a micro-bio/
07:59 PM on 08/15/2011
My favs as well. Oscars are second.
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blacksmithn
Iron, cold iron, is master of them all...
04:37 PM on 08/15/2011
My lips, snouts, assorted fillers and discarded scrotums in a tube taste better than your ears, cheeks, assorted fillers and rendered fat in a tube!

And how many lawyers will be made rich wasting the court's time with this fight?
12:17 PM on 08/16/2011
lol
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Eric Mann
Do you want to be on the opposite side of Progress
04:32 PM on 08/15/2011
Applegate Farms Organic beef dogs for me!
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PartisanLove
doh
04:37 PM on 08/15/2011
just had these the other day, very good but like the post below I still think I prefer the heb natl. I thought the applegate had too much smoke flavor but was really tasty none the less.
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Freedom Rush
freedom is the oxygen of the soul
06:13 PM on 08/15/2011
I like them both, but like you, I favor the flavor of Hebrew National. Both are a bit pricey, but worth it.
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Eric Mann
Do you want to be on the opposite side of Progress
08:54 PM on 08/15/2011
What I really like about the Applegate Farms ones is the fat to protein ratio-6g for 6g which is FANTASTIC for a hot dog. Heb Natl reduced fat are still like 14g for 6g, and then they make the 97% fat free ones that are pretty tasteless.
I totally understand the enhanced smoke flavor comment. Heb Natl do have that good garlicy taste.