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Mean People Make More Money: Study

First Posted: 08/15/11 08:06 PM ET Updated: 10/15/11 06:12 AM ET

When it comes to the bottom line, it's better to be disagreeable in the workplace, according to a new study.

The Wall Street Journal reports on research to be published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, which suggests that the more agreeable you are, the less income you're likely to make. The difference is particularly significant for men.

From the Wall Street Journal:

The researchers examined "agreeableness" using self-reported survey data and found that men who measured below average on agreeableness earned about 18% more -- or $9,772 more annually in their sample -- than nicer guys. Ruder women, meanwhile, earned about 5% or $1,828 more than their agreeable counterparts.

The study was based on data from 10,000 workers in a wide range of jobs, salaries and ages.

The researchers found that men "earn a substantial premium" for being disagreeable while the same behavior has a negligible effect for women. The findings ring true across occupations.

The reason for this, the study suggests, likely has to do with employers' expectations for how men or women behave.

The study also posits that more agreeable people may be less likely to assert themselves in salary negotiations.

As TVNZ puts it, "It seems that nice guys do finish last and are also getting paid less."

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teachone
Knowledge is Power
06:22 PM on 08/16/2011
Takers and Bullies...THEY SHOULD ALL BE FIRED!!! But as the saying goes "The lazy are always kept employed, as they are"NO THREAT" to the management in the taking their own position!!" If you cannot get ahead by acting morally, ethically, with integrity, kindly, respectfully and by using your brains...you have NO RIGHT getting ahead!!! These people, if you dare to call them such, I prefer to call them animals, which is based more on the fact,of their behavior, grew up with the teachings that it is okay to do anything to get ahead and to be aggressive is good, just like they were taught other immoral, unethical conduct, like greed is good!! Those who make light of their conduct are cut from the same cloth. Letting them keep their jobs when they act this way is like giving candy to your child if they bite another child, it only teaches them to be criminal, immoral, aggressive, hateful, evil, they need discipline, their parents were LAZY and INEPT and their bosses are as well!! It will someday be our criminal justice system that finally teaches these types the lessons they should have learned as children!! No one is helping them by enabling or encouraging their conduct!! They need to be held accountable for their undesirable, inhumane, disgusting behavior!!! They have NO SOCIAL SKILLS!!!
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Carl Caroli
Give peace a chance
05:04 PM on 08/16/2011
I think aggressive is really the word that should be used. The winner takes all mentality is not necessarily mean spirited, but it is intent on domination and subjugation. The desire to be top dog can unfortunately lead to cut throat behavior which can be mean when it becomes personal.
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jf12
Occupying myself
04:04 PM on 08/16/2011
I.e. nice guys etc. Negligible effect for women.
03:31 PM on 08/16/2011
This didn't require a study. Two words Investment Bankers.
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02:34 PM on 08/16/2011
its sad to see right wingers on one had endlessly bash the president, especially when it started immediately before we got a chance to evaluate the guy..

these same right wingers are here worshiping their bosses - brown nosing the Internets.... not gonna help their careers - but i suppose all practice is useful to a 'corporate prostitute'
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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
02:19 PM on 08/16/2011
People perceive the management or higher ranking people as "mean." Why? Because they don't like the answers to tough questions. High achievers think differently than subservient types. We have to think in terms of systems, and workflow, and yes, profitability. Without people who can think this way, most of those poor "agreeables" wouldn't have jobs in the first place.

Yes, boys and girls, it's a big bad world out there. Life is a competition whether you want to admit to that or not. If you give them the chance, someone else will eat your lunch.
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03:03 PM on 08/16/2011
Rankists such as you describe seek to escape low developmental achievement with the artificiality of economic rank. Therein is the upstream source to monumental social dysfunction; you are simply doubling down on the problem. Competition is not collaboration.
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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
03:18 PM on 08/16/2011
Oh wow, I have to admire your psycho-ana­­lytical abilities - a few lines of text and you have a full personalit­­y profile for me. :)

I rank myself LAST in this company and always have.

If we don't compete, we will be out of business. It's my capital on the line, and I'm not here to play patty-cake - alright. Get it now?

Call someone else names.

Here is the definition of the term you've used for me - and I don't have any of these behaviors.

abusive, discrimina­­tory, or exploitati­­ve behavior towards people because of their rank in a particular hierarchy"
02:07 PM on 08/16/2011
The Successful & Rich never made it to where they are without stepping on a couple of toes...
01:52 PM on 08/16/2011
In the offices I've worked, those with selfish personalities who were willing to do whatever it took to get ahead often were the people in the highest positions. Of course, a few of them ended up taking tumbles later, but not before they had worked themselves up to a pretty hefty salary.
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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
02:16 PM on 08/16/2011
And without them, people like you wouldn't have a job.
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02:31 PM on 08/16/2011
wrong conclusion to draw. there is no evidence of that.

here it is corrected: And without them, people like you wouldn't have a low paying, demoralizing job in which no matter how well the company does, you will likely be marginalized as a matter of policy..
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ChiBloger
And the truth shall set us ALL free
12:58 PM on 08/16/2011
Well pimps, Drug kingpings, Republican think tankers and CEO of large corporations do make more money. No doubt. The connection between them all is that they do not care about the plight of other people.
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Bradlinsky
"Concept Other Than Self"
12:53 PM on 08/16/2011
To be mean is not to care, to your fellow humans or even animals and this planet. Thank you, but no. There are better 'riches' to be gained by being nice.
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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
02:21 PM on 08/16/2011
Yes, keep that idea in your mind, that you've attained some type of moral superiority over those horrible achievers. :)

It's much easier than actually achieving, doing, working, and creating jobs for others - the people who do those things are evil. :)
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03:04 PM on 08/16/2011
Distinguish morality from ethics or accept that you mistake one for the other.
12:49 PM on 08/16/2011
well kinda obvious -the boss is never liked much-always disagreeable to give orders an fire people.
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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
02:22 PM on 08/16/2011
It's a tough job but someone has to do it. When you get the "can't we all just get along" type in charge, you get Obama. Weak, unaccomplished, ineffectual, a failure.
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mrpotatohead
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03:43 PM on 08/16/2011
If you consider graduating from Harvard Law, being editor of the Law Review, and becoming president of the U.S. ineffectual and weak, I'd love to see your resume.

Cynicism and anger even if it comes with buckets of money, women, and wine is hardly success in my book.
12:40 PM on 08/16/2011
I wouldn't put too much stock in this one little study.. There are lots of studies about emotional intelligence that would tend to contradict this. The most successful and productive employees tend to be better at working in teams, are more emotionally attuned, have better people skills, etc. If this one fact does turn out to be true then it might be a good time for corporate America to take a hard look at who exactly is valuable in a company -- the people who are disagreeable and better paid, or the productive, highly emotionally intelligent team players.
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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
02:23 PM on 08/16/2011
Without the achievers, all the little team players would be at home on unemployment.
02:38 PM on 08/16/2011
You may be right to some degree. I think there is an indirect reason for deeply egocentric, self centered people. I have seen these people rise in corporate settings, often setting off huge waves of misery in their wake. And yet, I have also seen leaders with great leadership, wisdom, and humanity that leave great waves of happiness and profitability in theirs. I think here of the book "Good to Great" which went backwards, screening the successful companies, and then looking inside to see what accounted for their success.
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03:06 PM on 08/16/2011
Achievement is a matter of the degree of ignorance you have relieved in each of the 10 cognitive domains that evolution bequeathed us, not how narrowly you apply a couple of them to an unexamined life.
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Js420
Another beautiful sunny day!
12:21 PM on 08/16/2011
They dont make more. They hoard more of it.
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ChiBloger
And the truth shall set us ALL free
01:01 PM on 08/16/2011
Studies show, they do both. There is a reason these Tea party Republican's are big fans of noted sociopath Ayn Rand. When they talk, don't listen for Jesus, listen for Ayn Rand.
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P R R
01:56 PM on 08/16/2011
I have almost 500 employees and I do this. I nickel and dime, I low ball, I DO NOT follow others, I am confident in what I believe in and I definitely DO NOT baby people. I replace the weak links for strong one's that has turned my company into a power house.

How's that honesty?
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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
02:24 PM on 08/16/2011
Yeah, I should be smart and spend every penny, then I can go out of business the first time we hit a downturn, and then I can be like you - all smart on the internet. :)
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03:06 PM on 08/16/2011
All dumb with money then?
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djh6721
Sic gorgiamus allos subiectatos nunc:
12:13 PM on 08/16/2011
Who cares they still suck.
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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
02:24 PM on 08/16/2011
No you suck. That's why you're working for someone else.
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djh6721
Sic gorgiamus allos subiectatos nunc:
02:43 PM on 08/16/2011
If you throw a shoe into a pack of dogs how do you know which one got hit? He is the one who whelps. Nice whelping suckster.
12:11 PM on 08/16/2011
My bad attitude has yet to translate into cash for me

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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
02:24 PM on 08/16/2011
Because you still don't know the difference between acting like a big shot and actually being one.
03:16 PM on 08/16/2011
Anyone have a shovel?