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Mixed Reactions From Latinos On Obama's New Deportation Plan (WATCH)

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First Posted: 08/20/11 06:15 PM ET Updated: 10/20/11 06:12 AM ET

This Thursday, the Obama administration announced it would do a “case-by-case review of deportations, allowing many undocumented immigrants without criminal records to stay in the United States” permitting them to apply for work permits and possibly stay.

The announcement came to a surprise for many Latinos, especially for the Latino groups and immigration reform advocates. During his speech last month at the National Council of la Raza, the largest Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the U.S, there was no indication of a change in policy. Obama made it clear that although tempting to bypass Congress and change the laws himself that he wouldn’t because “that’s not how our system works. That’s not how our democracy functions.” A lot has changed since that day.

Many believe that Obama’s decision influenced by the protest by pro-immigration reform activists protested on Tuesday in front of President Barack Obama's Chicago reelection campaign headquarters. Obama’s announcement has sparked strong protests by some Republicans. A statement from Arizona Governor Jan Brewer was released yesterday with some criticism of her own on the matter. Brewer stresses that, “we need to remind President Obama that we elected a president that serves beneath the law and did not anoint a king that is above the law.”

Nevertheless, the Latino community is reacting, as evidenced in stories by AOL Latino and HuffPost LatinoVoices bloggers such as Roberto Lavato’s, Co-founder of Presente.org, blog, “Obama's 3 Percent Solution To The Immigration Crisis Will Not Sway Latino Voters” or Aggie Hoffman’s, an immigration lawyer, blog, “But, What Will Implementation of Obama's Plan Look Like?

For example, AOL Latino’s reporter Jorge Luis Macias’ stated how one victim of domestic violence was deported and how it affected her life.

A patient of mine was deported to Guatemala, even though she was the victim in an incident of domestic violence", said psychologist Leticia Lagar to AOL Latino. "I was able to see first hand how this impacted her life. She suffered from chronic depression after being separated from her children and husband. She was thrown out of balance and suffered from physical illness."

An important question at hand is whether Barack Obama is only doing this because he is up for election? Carlos A. Quiroz, social media activist based out of Washington D.C. said:

It is an impressive move that brings me hope as an undocumented immigrant. This is the first time the Obama administration is actually trying to do something to help immigrants and especially the Latino communities, but it's bad it's done as an effort for Barack Obama to get reelected with the Latino vote. It's a good move considering that this will protect many immigrants who are deeply immersed in the American society, in cases like mine being an undocumented gay man with almost 15 years living in the U.S.

It is only natural that the Latino community is questioning Obama’s motives especially with his statement at the National Council of La Raza just last month as highlighted in Gov. Jan Brewer’s statement released on Thursday:

“Just last month in speaking to the National Council of La Raza, President Obama rejected the idea of bypassing Congress and imposing immigration reform...We need to remind President Obama that we elected a president that serves beneath the law and did not anoint a king that is above the law.”

Governor Jan Brewer has been quoted as calling Obama's new plan, “back door amnesty” and she’s not alone. In a piece from The Washington Times, "Obama to deport illegals by ‘priority'," Texas Republican Lamar Smith is openly against Obama’s new plan and is concerned about what laws the President will or will not uphold.

“The Obama administration should enforce immigration laws, not look for ways to ignore them,” said Rep. Lamar Smith, Texas Republican. “The Obama administration should not pick and choose which laws to enforce. Administration officials should remember the oath of office they took to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the land.”

Peter Freire, a resident from North Bergen, New Jersey, complies with Governor Jan Brewer and Rep. Lamar Smith opinions on law enforcement.

I think it is an oxymoron for the man who swore to uphold the laws of this land to make a decision that rewards illegal immigration. Let's call it what it is. ILLEGAL. I am so tired of hearing the word ‘immigrants’ thrown around. They are criminals, not immigrants. Immigrants come here with visas. These people are illegal aliens. They have broken American law and that should be as inexcusable as buying an ounce of marijuana.

On both sides of the spectrum, Obama’s new plan leaves much to be desired. Even when people are allowed into the country legally, the system isn’t exactly perfect. Esther Innis, who teaches middle school in Bloomfield, New Jersey, is concerned about her students. How can students focus on school when they are facing bigger issues at home?

I had a 13 year-old student who won the lottery, and got to enter the U.S. but her parents couldn’t come with her. So she came alone. She stayed with distant family. Years later her mom finally got to join her. But what a decision that must have been for her parents to have to make. While we are a melting pot and always have been there has to be a way to work on what is wrong with the legal ways of entering the country. If so many people are willing to risk their lives and everything they have to illegally enter the country than the legal way must not be working for them.

While most remain skeptical, at least everyone can agree that the public still has many questions they want answered. Quiroz, with his 15 years contributing to this country and worries for his future still hopes that immigrant rights and political groups, “stand behind the president Obama at this moment, and show him and the country that we will stand for our rights and prove to him that we are part of the United States even if we don't have a document that proves it.”

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03:13 PM on 08/23/2011
YES!!! Totally agree with giving legal status to good illegal people in US. They've been treated inhumanely by the greedy employers. It's time to give them the basic rights like other citizens. For the criminals and the welfare leeches.. send them back home. The more reasonable Immigration reform is needed to prevent illegals in the future.
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loyalist1
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02:13 PM on 08/23/2011
Oh, sure. Just stab US workers in the back some more. There must be additional room in the mobile home park, anyway. Or in the shelters.....
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01:16 PM on 08/23/2011
What people fail to realize and I hope I offend no one but I can attest from my cousins in Cuba and those who escaped and are now in Florida this is the only way to creating a clear path to a decision on the Cuban immigration policy as well. It's absolutely unfair that because my father's niece happens to be Cuban-Haitian she can take a plane for Haiti to Cuba, somehow make it to America and as soon as she touches land is granted asylum but another cousin of mine who's only Haitian is not granted the same protection. Now you'll have a lot of conservative Latino's (who are most often Cuban and Catholic) who will fight this tooth-and-nail because it will began the stripping away of their protection. Sometimes politics needs to step aside for the protection of human rights...I know women who've personally been abused and do not go to the police because of their status and have been told by the abusers that they will lose their children. I know of cases where young children from Haiti have been enslaved in a "relatives" home and although the conditions are oppresive faced with deportation to Haiti they deal with it and accept their 3 meals with the beatings...and the free education hoping to gain freedom that way. The same can be said of many Asian and Russian as well as other immigrant people, it's time to make justice just.
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06:28 PM on 08/23/2011
F&F!
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01:06 PM on 08/23/2011
Well I don't know why "Latinos" has to encompass all people affected by unfair immigration policies of the past, but as a Haitian Immigrant who's family was granted political asylum years ago I think this is a just and fair decision on the part of the Obama administration. If one is not criminal and is seeking the same freedoms as those who arrived on these shores on the Mayflower. I think this is a productive and proactive way of paving a path to permanent residency or citizenship for those who want to become law abiding citizens and pay their fair share of taxes...while focusing on deporting the criminally minded and not targeting hard-working people.
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CrestedSparrow
06:30 PM on 08/23/2011
The marches that have taken place included immigrants from around the world; this fight may affect Hispanics the most because they are a very large segment of the population, but it does not exclude ANYONE ELSE.
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09:12 PM on 08/22/2011
Amnesty for ALL 12 MILLION-YES! The sooner the better. If it weren't for the seething hatred the Republicans brandish towards Obama, we wouldn't even be having this converstation.
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dtairtime
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09:09 AM on 08/23/2011
I guess you didn't pay attention in 2007?

We had amnesty, oops I think you call it comprehensive reform, a great economy, lots or republican support, a republican president who supported it and a public who knew far less about the issue then they do today.

It didn't pass. The reasons were two main ones. First the public who did know it was nothing but amnesty and a promise later down the road of some ineffective enforcement maybe. Second politicians of both parties knew they would not get re-elected if they voted for it (unless of course they lived in LA, Chicago or similar).

In the last 11 years there have been lots of attempts at a EIGHTH amnesty. All have failed and by far most have been before Obama.

Your claims are nothing but race baiting.
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CrestedSparrow
12:36 PM on 08/23/2011
Oh, I was paying attention. Were you paying attention that the invitations by corporations on Mexico's soil to work in this country continued? Or the continued employment of these individuals in many areas in the US with no legal benefit or recognition for the last 30 years? I will make it real simple. It is the abuses and exploitation that has been the status quo with no complaints as long as Americans enjoyed the fruits (pun intended) of their labor. The time has come that if American companies must seek fluid workers in Mexico, that invitation must be accompanied by full legal benefit of citizenship. Simiply put, IF YOU WORK HERE, YOU CAN LIVE HERE PERMANENTLY WITH ALL THE LEGAL BENEFITS OF CITIZENSHIP. The racist policies towards these workers WILL COME TO AN END.
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RobietheCat
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04:15 AM on 09/01/2011
Illegal bahavior begets more illegal behavior:

California Department of Motor Vehicles investigators and Los Angeles police Wednesday arrested five people suspected of producing fake driver's licenses and identification cards and selling unauthorized licenses.

The people, two of them former DMV employees, were arrested in two separate actions as investigators and police served search warrants in Venice, Pacific Palisades, West Hollywood, San Marino and Monrovia, authorities said.

Investigators from the DMV discovered that the former employees were allegedly selling fake licenses to customers willing to pay for written and driving tests, DMV Director George Valverde said in a statement.

Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck said the scheme endangered motorists.

"The illegal operation we shut down," Beck said in a statement, "was putting dangerous drivers on the road."

Authorities identified three of those arrested as Peter Scott Singer, 26, of Monrovia; Todd Terrazas, 24, of West Hollywood; and Lawrence Benjamin Goldstein, 22, of Los Angeles.
The two former DMV employees were identified as Carlos Ku, 28, of Los Angeles; and Alejandro Rubalcava, 31, of Bellflower.

from: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/08/dmv-arrests-fake-driver-licenses.html
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12:36 PM on 09/01/2011
From the article, 3 of the 5 arrested were non-Hispanic if their surnames are any indication of their ethnicity. Singer, Goldstein, Ku, Terrazas, Rubalcava. Apparently, the CRIMINALS are all AMERICAN. I hope they all get a LONG PRISON SENTENCES. We tend to forget that unscrupulous Americans exploit anyone vulnerable to make a buck.
08:36 PM on 08/22/2011
this is sad that this sight allows bigots to post on here! first off there are more people who are "illegally" here then Latinos yet throughout most of these post refer solely to Latinos, whats wrong with any other person say um i don't know Canadians maybe who's .skin just happens to blend better to what is supposed to be considered "American" . No not worried about them? Why is that? Secondly if you take a look at the map just a regular, United States issued Map of the Americas I do believe you will find many of these people are from America. Yes SOUTH AMERICA IS STILL AMERICA!! let me leave all you politically correct bigots this If it is really about the legality of a persons citizenship, why referrals to Latino's? Second if all you good Americans wanted the jobs most hold why were they opened in the first place ? Lastly, if at this point your conscious is still clear and just and righteous let the one who has never done anything wrong at all EVER cast that first stone!! I don't care if you cheated to to get ahead or lied to save your backside or just simply forgot to return a pen to its rightful owner out of forgetfulness. We are talking about human lives here.Families are being ripped apart and plenty of America is sitting back laughing while it happens.Once you bring up a race you are nothing more then a bigot!
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dtairtime
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09:15 AM on 08/23/2011
What race is involved in and spearheads at least 90% of the effort for amnesty after amnesty?

Who do groups that fight for amnesty represent?

Is it the amnesty crowd or the enforcement crowd who is usually the first to invoke race?

Because we are human and make mistakes does not mean we have no right to a sovereign nation with laws and borders like every other nation out there in the history of the world. No nation has ever continued if they ignore their borders and not controlled who and how many go across it. It has never worked and it will never work.
11:12 AM on 08/23/2011
First please do understand i never once said that there was not an issue, with enforcement or an inadequacy of protection at our borders. What I am merely saying is that it is no more then racial profiling when we pick on one ethnicity for causing ALL of this countries problems. Why are they crying for amnesty? thought its because they are being singled out, and in reality there are just as many other nationalities that come here and cause troubles!! If my memory serves me right it was not Latinos who took down or NYC towers or the pentagon, or that flight that was diverted from the white house, and many of that nationality own plenty of our gas stations , delis and so on and not a word is ever said. Is it because many of those cross legally, or are we afraid and find Latinos to be the lesser threat? I can name several more nationalities in which this is the case , both that enter legally and illegally. You are right on there is a problem but the problem in reality is not with one group and when we have a system that will put a child molester or murder back on the streets for a second chance I think its pretty safe to say that my country does a pretty good job of not keeping its priorities straight!
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Viper1st
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07:01 PM on 08/22/2011
Even DHS, admits Deportation of illegals is cheaper for the USA, than to have them remain here illegally ~

http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/dhs-confirms-cheaper-to-deport-every-illegal-alien-than-allowing-them-to-stay
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CrestedSparrow
08:51 PM on 08/22/2011
Well then that flies in the face of many of the reports published to date including the report on HP today where it is a proven fact the economy benefits from them being here. It would seem the opposite is true considering the amount of resources dedicated to hunting down brown people,hearing their cases, incarcerating them for profit, then deporting them. Sure, this sounds real cost effective.
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Viper1st
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09:59 PM on 08/22/2011
Oh GOSH ~

Whom am I going to believe?

The DHS or HP?

The HP or DHS?

Guess, I'm going with the lesser of two evils

The DHS

Cause, HP has a history of employing illegal journalist ~ "law-abiding" "doing a job no American will do"

An illegal whom knowlingly entered the White House on a self-confessed SSN obtained fraudulenty ~ unapologetic, brazen & defiant

Yep ~ definitely going with DHS credibility
05:24 PM on 08/23/2011
from your link:
"So, while it would cost a one-time fee of about $135 billion to deport every single illegal alien in the country, it is actually a bargain considering the fact that it already costs us $113 billion annually to keep them here."

Yes. Deportations are permanent. Deported individuals never attempt re-entry, and thus after the mass deportations we can even dismantle the DHS.
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UWorlds1
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05:15 PM on 08/22/2011
This is a travesty. So not only are they not being deported, they are being rewarded with job visas...or job permits whatever that means. We (Americans) are already fighting for jobs, we should not have to compete with people who have broken the law. And what does 'young people' mean? As a taxpayer I want to know who are getting a pass, how old are they, who are they. Just like criminals their names should be posted so American citizens can see who is breaking the law. In my opinion this should go before the American public and let us vote for this new "law".
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02:08 PM on 08/23/2011
F&F! This whole policy is just about rewarding the freeloaders who come here/stay here by breaking the laws.
05:25 PM on 08/23/2011
So are they freeloaders or are they taking our jobs? Which is it, chief?
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02:52 PM on 08/23/2011
Where were you when the calls went out to all unemployed Americans to apply for desparately needed fiield workers? Complaining how those "criminals" are taking American jobs I presume.
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TggerJen
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07:08 PM on 08/23/2011
Some 3-4% of those here illegally work in ag/farming. The rest take plenty of jobs Americans want and need. As for 'desperately needed field workers' - it turns out that only 25% of them are here illegally; 75% (that's the vast majority) of ag/farm jobs are done by Americans or people here legally, according to Pew Hispanic Center http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1190/portrait-unauthorized-immigrants-states

In any case, there was a story here on HP recently about a restaurant chain that employed mostly illegal aliens and some of them were managers making $44K a year- go ahead and claim that those are jobs no Americans will do for that money- that's a lie like all the other claims about American workers.

The people who are forced to compete most directly with the illegal foreign labor have the highest unemployment rates in the nation. It's obvious that Obama and the Dems don't care about the unskilled, low-skilled and undereducated Americans who are out of work; after all they are disproportionately minority and they don't have lots of money to form a big political lobby like the pro-amnesty people do. Now it's clear who Obama and the Dems are willing to throw under the bus, and more often than not it's the people who used to be required to ride at the back of that bus. Obama's jobs program is all about giving amnesty and work permits to dishonest foreign nationals here illegally. I hope the campaign ads about him giving away hundreds of thousands of American jobs to illegal aliens as rewards for being here illegally run 24/7 for the next 14 1/2 months. He deserves to be held accountable for this despicable policy.
01:55 PM on 08/22/2011
Actually the word Latino should be incorporated with the word Americano meaning Latinoamericanos or Latinamericans since that what is they are, Latino by culture and American (Western Hemisphere) by geography. Mexico for example is an American state as shown in its membership in NAFTA or North American Free Trade Association. By culture they are divided by two heritages: Ancient American (Indian) and European or Latino since it is from Latin Europe that America was discovered and conquered. Even the word America too is an European invention first used for the West Indies in 1507. The United States is definitely a racist enterprise in which skin color comes before learning and culture and to understand the two one must foister a color to their meaning. Hence Latinp is brown and Anglo white. This is the kind of rubbish taught in the school system the consequence of which is producing a nation of morons and cultural illiterates.
01:31 PM on 08/22/2011
The amazing part is that they also plan to give those arrested work permits, so as to deny tax paying citizens a chance to get jobs the illegals were stealing. Most of those jobs are in construction, landscaping and cleaning services (less than 18% are agricultural). So at a time we are in desperate need for jobs for unskilled labor, they are openly giving them away to foreigners. No wonder the jobless rate hasn't improved...
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06:08 PM on 08/22/2011
F&F! This is Obama's jobs plan; get reelected by ignoring Americans desperate for jobs and giving work permits to illegal aliens as rewards for their dishonesty. It's also a big invite to more illegal aliens to come here - he's showing them they'll get to stay and have jobs at our expense.
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06:42 PM on 08/22/2011
It falls to us to ensure this does NOT happen!!!!!!!!!!!! FAV
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UWorlds1
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12:10 PM on 08/23/2011
Fanned! How can the president give work permits to illegals when Americans can't get jobs. This legislation leaves alot of questions. How long do you have to be in the US to get a work permit? So all illegals get work permit or just hispanics? How long do these 'permits' last or are they indefinite. As a voter and taxpayer I would like to know.
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Viper1st
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06:54 PM on 08/22/2011
F&F x2
12:56 PM on 08/22/2011
Ok. What the heck does "Victim of Domestic Violence" have to do with deportation and depression. A man can beat his wife or partner anywhere in the world. I do not condone any type of violence against women or children. She should have had the abuser arrested. A far as this young lady being deported- bottom line: SHE WAS IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY!
01:24 PM on 08/22/2011
Perfect....Get in line all others out period...
12:40 PM on 08/22/2011
This is not a new plan. Prioritizing the deportation of violent criminals and those who present a threat to national security was already official policy and is the logic behind Secure Communities. See Morton's June memo on prosecutorial discretion.
12:23 PM on 08/22/2011
THIS IS UNFAIR TO ALL THE FOLKS THAT FOLLOWED THE RULES TO GET IN THE USA..........

IS THIS JUST TO GET LATINO VOTES???
10:23 AM on 08/23/2011
In one simple word - YES.
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allengoldchain
Proud to be a 53%! I always pay my fair share!
11:32 AM on 08/22/2011
There are millions of people looking to enter the US but we can't take them all in and that does not excuse people that lie and cheat their way into this country. It creates an atmosphere of resentment for those that did the right thing to see people demanding to be allowed to remain in this country after they cheated those waiting in line. As an immigrant I had to wait years for my turn to receive the lottery. I didn't cheat by lying or sneaking into the country. I waited and waited and waited.

As an immigrant, the illegal aliens that are here are no different than those that think they are above everybody else. The line to come here is long but the worst thing to see is someone the cuts their way in the front and then demands to be rewarded. Obama is doing nothing but rewarding them. Obama might as well tell them "you lied and cheated the American people, good job and here is amnesty.
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11:30 AM on 08/22/2011
"If so many people are willing to risk their lives and everything they have to illegally enter the country than the legal way must not be working for them."

Sorry but the legal way is the only way that works. Coming here illegally makes that individual not an immigrant but an illegal alien. Immigrants go through the process, wait in line and wait to received the correct approval from the US government. There is a reason why it is a lottery system. The process might be long, not 100% fine tuned but it is our process. The parent of the 13 year old did right by waiting. We are not an open border nation and have rules that define who we are. Does the immigration system need to be updated, yes. Is is 100% wonderful, No. But despite it's imperfection, it is our system.