Ron Paul Wins New Hampshire Young Republicans Straw Poll

Patch.com:

Ron Paul got a great birthday present Saturday, as the 76-year-old defeated 11 other Republicans in Saturday's New Hampshire Young Republicans Straw Poll.

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[armchairpickleback]

03:33 AM on 08/24/2011

"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads."

Ron Paul

[clearpepsi]

10:17 PM on 08/24/2011

"Given the inefficien­cies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-crimi­nal or entirely criminal." — Ron Paul”

"Ron Paul is our best bet." - David Duke

[Skater not a hater]

10:59 AM on 08/25/2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6sYZxZi4qQ&feature=related

[clearpepsi]

12:10 AM on 08/24/2011

This is good news for the President; the fringe gop candidates getting attention and money takes away from the two electable candidates. RP or MB are best case scenarios for the President.

RP is half wit, 10% of what he says makes sense and is what other politicians would not say, so consequently a lot of disenfranchised and marginalized people (mostly uneducated white men) flock to him with gullible eyes eating up his populist platitudes... he preys on the poor and their often ra cist sensibilities.

[armchairpickleback]

03:19 AM on 08/24/2011

spam

[clearpepsi]

11:28 AM on 08/26/2011

Here's a few more eye-opening issues that Ron Paul believes:

Roe v. Wade decision was harmful to the Constitution. (Apr 2008)
Civil Rights Act was more about property than race relations. (Dec 2007)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Repeal 16th Amendment and get rid of the income tax. (Feb 2008)
Don’t ask, don’t tell is a decent policy for gays in army. (Jun 2007)
Opposes “hate crimes” legislatio¬n. (Sep 2007)
Voted NO on enforcing against anti-gay hate crimes. (Apr 2009)
Abolish the federal Department of Education. (Dec 2000)
Close Dept. of Education, but don’t dismantle public schools. (Dec 2007)
Voted NO on tax credits for renewable electricit¬y, with PAYGO offsets. (Sep 2008)
Property rights are the foundation of all rights. (Sep 2007)
Government investment in ANY business is malinvestm¬ent. (Jun 2011)
Voted NO on expanding the Children's Health Insurance Program. (Jan 2009)
Abolish federal Medicare entitlement; leave it to states. (Dec 2000)
Repeal the Job-Killing Health Care Law. (Jan 2011)

[Skater not a hater]

12:02 PM on 08/24/2011

You are not only sexist, but also racist.

[clearpepsi]

11:29 AM on 08/26/2011

Did it hit a little to close to home? It seems like it did.

"What must Paul do to have any real chance of winning or making a bigger impact? I think he should do exactly what I did in Louisiana, and for Ron Paul to follow exactly the same advice Ron Paul gave in his newsletters for others, take up my campaign issues with passion and purpose."
David Duke
http://zardozz.com/zz/2008/01/david-duke-new-advisor-for-ron-paul.html

[Damon Coburn]

07:59 PM on 08/23/2011

Ron Paul wants to protect our economic future. Its not surprising that younger republicans would favor him even more strongly.

A vote for Ron Paul = a vote for freedom, prosperity and peace.

Ron Paul can win.

[clearpepsi]

11:53 PM on 08/23/2011

Things Ron Paul believes:
1) The UN wants to confiscate all guns, impose a global tax, and create a one-world government.
2) In his Ron Paul Political Report, he wrote "I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city [Washington, D.C.] are semi-criminal or entirely criminal". Although when the blacklash came, his only defense was someone on his staff wrote it under his name - he never repudiated that assertion.
3) That an elite are planning of merging the US with Canada and Mexico.
4) He rejects evolution even claiming neither side has any proof either way and that discussion¬s of human development are theological not scientific.
5) His "We The People Act" would have prevented the federal courts from hearing cases where a state violated the rights of its people. In short, that bill is a direct attack on the 1st Amendment.
6) That women who are pregnant from rape and seek abortions are murders.

[Skater not a hater]

12:15 PM on 08/24/2011

All this spinning. Are you dizzy yet? (that was a rhetorical question, I already know the answer.)

[AmosKnows]

09:34 PM on 08/22/2011

I am wondering why this buried on HUFF and everywhere else? What a country - they used to talk badly about communism and it's state run media. So here we are comrade.

[Bea Johnson]

09:46 PM on 08/22/2011

Didn't you hear? Fairness Doctrine officially dead... I mean it's not like they used it for a while, but almost dead and dead dead are two different things... Like Wesley on the Princess Bride, lol. Shall we play taps and hang on the back porch and watch it all fall down?

[media4me2]

10:46 PM on 08/22/2011

Under Obama's watch.
Thanks Obie.

[armchairpickleback]

07:00 PM on 08/22/2011

You notice progressives only point to ayn rand, and not hayek. Its so funny.

[Bea Johnson]

09:48 PM on 08/22/2011

Rand is something you read when you're young... Sure, you have nostalgia for her books, but when you read them when you're older? Lol... you think was I really that pretensious? I do still enjoy Max Stirner, I think he was misunderstood. Like the only snarky guy in Germany in his day? The Ego and His Own is so awesome when you read it in that ironic mindset :)

[fromdnorth]

01:31 AM on 08/23/2011

ideologues bore

[rgilley]

06:11 PM on 08/22/2011

The only thing wrong with Ron Paul is he is a Republican Libertarian. Which tantamount to saying he espouses the Social darwinism inherent in the Libertarian ideology. Likewise he has a strong connection ideologically to Ayn Rand whose self described "Objectivism" tries unsuccessfully to make living for oneself and greed a virtue. THIS is Ayn rand:

"She said the United States should be a "democracy of superiors only," with superiority defined by being rich. Well, we got it. As the health care crisis has shown, today, the rich have the real power: The vote that matters is expressed with a checkbook and a lobbyist. We get to vote only for the candidates they have pre-funded and receive the legislation they have preapproved. It's useful—if daunting—to know that there is a substantial slice of the American public who believe this is not a problem to be put right, but morally admirable. "
http://www.slate.com/id/2233966/

And while she said that governemnt social programs were the root of all evil she had no problem seeking that governement help for herself. kind of like Michele bachman accepting farm subsidies of 250 Thousand dollars while trying to kill soc sec and medicare.

[armchairpickleback]

06:27 PM on 08/22/2011

More guilt by association. nice try.

Let me get this straight, the govt can tax me with the threat of imprisonment and I don't have a right to that money? I would rather have the money to invest myself. But you are dam straight Im collecting SS when I pay 6.2% of my pay towards it, and warren buffet only pays .02%. That is not a UNIFORM tax and it is unconstitutional under art 1 sec 8. look it up.

[rgilley]

06:42 PM on 08/22/2011

Guilt by association? Ron Paul's ideology comes directly from AGREEING with Ayn Rand. Kind of like you're ideology comes from AGREEING with people in three cornered tin hats. Its not "Guilt" of anything its an ideology BOTH of them agree with.
BTW Ron Paul would end soc sec and all social programs as a first step toward ending governement involvement in people's lives. He would also end taxes, privatize any governement functions he could not kill and end society as we know it.
Survival of the fittest is the Libertarian war cry my friend.....weed out the weak and make followers out of the losers in the Capitalist fixed game.
So I have no idea where you get the "guilt by association" conjob but you're wayyy off. Its the ideology period.

[acatsblack]

06:35 PM on 08/22/2011

Not sure its appropriate to tie Ron Paul to that specific quote from Ayn Rand. Would I be any different if I took one quote from Fareed Zakaria and attributed it to Obama's principles? I wouldn't consider that appropriate. If you're going to quote something, quote the actual individual.

Just my 2 cents.

[armchairpickleback]

06:41 PM on 08/22/2011

make that 4 cents if I may.

[rgilley]

06:48 PM on 08/22/2011

Well I do agree that the quote is probablly Not consistant with Ron Paul's ideology. However, it IS very much a part of the Ayn Rand philosophy which he does and always has espoused. Not only Paul but most others who beleive the "free market" is the answer to all human conditions. For example Paul Ryan, and Alan Greenspan also espouse the ideology of self centered greed in the market.

The Echoes of Ayn Rand in Paul Ryan's Budget Plan
Jonathan Chait examines the intellectual underpinnings of the movement to slash budgets -- and especially programs that serve the poor, elderly and weak -- in a Newsweek piece, and argues that this is no accident:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/the-echoes-of-ayn-rand-in-paul-ryans-budget-plan/237082/

The book is “Atlas Shrugged,” Ayn Rand’s glorification of the right of individuals to live entirely for their own interest.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/15/business/15atlas.html

In fairness however Greenspan did recant his Randian ideology.

In a historic moment, former Fed chair Alan Greenspan acknowledged he had been wrong for years to assume that government regulation was bad for markets. Whoops—there goes decades of Ayn Rand down the drain.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/10/25-6

Just my 2 cents as well . ;)

[David Ware]

05:26 PM on 08/22/2011

I believe Ron Paul is the only hope we have for Civil liberties, and a reduced government. Did you know that the Government is training local Law enforcement, and now you see how that has been turning out. Our police officers are for our peace, not as a tool to beat the American people into submission and compliance. Though I am curious about a possible run of Dennis Kucinich. I would like to see a Dennis/Paul Ticket I think they would be a GREAT Pres/Vice pres team.

[Free Your Mind]

06:08 PM on 08/22/2011

Yes, that would be a great ticket (as i have mentioned many times before)!!! Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures...

[rgilley]

01:55 AM on 08/23/2011

"Extraordin­ary times require extraordin­ary measures..­. "

THAT my friend is exactly how Hitler took over the reichstag after the fire And how Bush took us into our first war of aggression.
Create a crisis put the masses into disarray and tell them these are "extrordinary times."

[rgilley]

06:14 PM on 08/22/2011

I agree with Paul about civil liberties and his stance on wars. But I would only vote for him if Kucinich was first on the ticket. His connections ideologically to Ayn Rand's self centered "objectivist"philosophy is spooky at best.

[Lego87]

08:34 PM on 08/22/2011

What about a Ron Paul/Elizabeth Warren ticket?

[clearpepsi]

12:03 AM on 08/24/2011

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." — Ron Paul

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/angry-white-ma¬n?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca

[mataylor16]

03:31 PM on 08/22/2011

Ron Paul is, whether the Republicans like it or not, the only candidate who could expect any Obama voters.

[spyker1]

04:16 PM on 08/22/2011

Republicans don't care they already have their man in the white house.The Cheney in Obama is starting to show.

[mataylor16]

04:25 PM on 08/22/2011

Aint that the truth. I just hope one day we actually have somebody with the spine to launch the prosecutions these animals so rightly deserve. Prison building will be the next subprime boom.

[rgilley]

03:22 PM on 08/24/2011

There is not as it turns out much difference between Obama and Bush. Other than about 100 IQ points and perhaps he is a bit less of a Fascist elite. And now the corporate owners of the two parties have decided to offer even more right wing Fascist ideolouges for the next election. Revolution WILL insue the only question is how low are the working middle class willing to sink before they break.

[fromdnorth]

02:59 PM on 08/22/2011

Ron Paul laying wood for his cloned son named after the currency of Apartheid...

[mataylor16]

03:28 PM on 08/22/2011

I believe its actually short for "Randall"

[EdCorner]

03:36 PM on 08/22/2011

You're right

[rgilley]

03:24 PM on 08/24/2011

I beleive it is a name sake for Ayn Rand. Ron Paul's ideological mentor. as well as Paul Ryan's and Alan Greenspan among many right wing Oilgarchs who beleive the few should use the many like tools in a shed.

[Freedom and Peace]

03:52 PM on 08/22/2011

His name is Randall Paul and he is not named after Ayn Rand, although he is a fan.
A a child he was Randy but his wife changed that to Rand. Here is a link of himself answering the question...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD-R_OeP6tU&feature=youtu.be

[acatsblack]

06:36 PM on 08/22/2011

Thanks for the link. Already a fan.

[fromdnorth]

10:05 AM on 09/05/2011

Mine sounds better

[fromdnorth]

02:56 PM on 08/22/2011

So what if he got 66%.
2 votes out of three is 66%

[rgilley]

02:00 AM on 08/23/2011

Ron Paul himself would tell you his chances of winning in the general election are slim and none. He is simply trying to get his ideology on the table. And there's nothing wrong with that....he does have some good ideas, and some very dangerous ideas.

[EdCorner]

02:28 PM on 08/22/2011

Corrupt Obama Administration Pressuring New York Attorney General to Support Mortgage Whitewash

Posted: 22 Aug 2011 03:08 AM PDT

It is high time to describe the Obama Administration by its proper name: corrupt.

Admittedly, corruption among our elites generally and in Washington in particular has become so widespread and blatant as to fall into the “dog bites man” category. But the nauseating gap between the Administration’s propaganda and the many and varied ways it sells out average Americans on behalf of its favored backers, in this case the too big to fail banks, has become so noisome that it has become impossible to ignore the fetid smell.

The Administration has now taken to pressuring parties that are not part of the machinery reporting to the President to fall in and do his bidding. We’ve gotten so used to the US attorney general being conveniently missing in action that we have forgotten that regulators and the AG are supposed to be independent. As one correpsondent noted by e-mail, “When officials allegiances are to El Supremo rather than the Constitution, you walk the path to fascism.”

[rgilley]

02:05 AM on 08/23/2011

Corrupt? THIS is corrupt!

"Reagan proved deficits don't matter," Vice President Cheney said in 2002 when pushing for a fresh round of tax cuts.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-progress-report/the-bush-deficit_b_169475.html

Bush came into office with an advantage few presidents have enjoyed -- a $230 billion surplus. But due to a $1.35 trillion tax cut in 2001, a $1.5 trillion tax cut in 2003, and a massive defense buildup through the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, Bush quickly blew through that surplus. The next president will "inherit a fiscal meltdown," Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-ND) warned in February 2008, as the Bush administration projected a budget deficit of $400 billion. After the financial crisis emerged last fall and the ensuing bailouts, Bush's budget deficit ballooned to over $1 trillion.
source:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-progress-report/the-bush-deficit_b_169475.html

"There ought to be limits to freedom."-George Bush, 1999"

"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." ~ George W. Bush

If Obama wants to be corrupt he could learn alot from the masters of corruption eh?

[EdCorner]

01:27 PM on 08/23/2011

What is the matter with you? Can't you see that O ba ma believes in and follows and even expands upon all the shrub doctrines??? Obamabush is who he is and he comes from the land of corruption in government.

Obamabush has an unprecedented record of prosecuting whistleblowers! So much for bringing transparency to the WH and government. He will not prosecute the banksters but instead blames "We the people". In the words of Ralph Nader - "He's a conman." He preys upon the hopes and dreams of people with "weasel words". Look it up

[clearpepsi]

12:05 AM on 08/24/2011

Ron Paul’s newsletter also included several attacks on Martin Luther King. After Martin Luther King Day was named a national holiday, this was written in his newsletter, “What an infamy Ronald Reagan approved it!…..We can thank him for our annual Hate W***ey Day”
http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/opinion-ron-paul-is-a-white-supremacist/

[brklynivn]

02:13 PM on 08/22/2011

I'm curious to know if Ron Paul would support a constitutional amendment explicitly recognizing the right to privacy of the individual (within reason of course). This seems to be a glaring omission of the Constitution and the 1st amendment.

[Jester2069]

02:59 PM on 08/22/2011

Think about that for a minute...the right to privacy of the individual...

What privacy would a homeless person get, and how could it possibly be upheld?

[brklynivn]

08:25 PM on 08/22/2011

So a homeless person does not have the right to say keeping his medical records private, or his past history private from non relevant authorities, or his identity and SS records from being examined by just anyone. Many vets are homeless (which is a gigantic shame of the US), so they do have past record and history. Then again, I can see the mindset of use them up and then spit them out when you're done with them.

[armchairpickleback]

02:09 PM on 08/22/2011

poof!! in to the comment abyss. I wonder where all these disappearing comments go. I wonder if HP has an archive.

[Bea Johnson]

09:52 PM on 08/22/2011

Poof! Into Fairy Land with Dick, I mean Rick, lol...

[armchairpickleback]

02:07 PM on 08/22/2011

There is a disconnect amongst Paul supporters and the coverage of Paul. He does get more air time than any other candidate, hands down. He is not afraid to be interviewed by the hard core on the right and the left. He is always on some radio shows, he is on foxnews alot, and of course his massive internet army puts up every thing he says on youtube for the world to see. He does however barely ever get mentioned in commentation. That is the problem that we have to clear up. I think all of us Paul supporters do need to stop bashing the media a bit. He does get on a lot of shows.

[darth leroy]

09:53 PM on 08/22/2011

I made this point in another thread. He has so far received more attention than any other candidate in recent history who dares associate with libertarian philosophy. But it has not been through traditional media outlets. He owns the web but the major print and television media outlets are purposely trying to give him the hook. He's on FBN every 5 minutes but that it not a major TV news outlet. The problem is more how the media is involved in picking candidates based on what they will cover in order to fit their narrative. As one blogger put it, Paul was the only real story to come out of Iowa, and he was blanked out. Obama was the media choice since the 2004 Democrat convention and I was surprised how they demonized Hillary Clinton whom some argue would have made a better president and had received proper media vetting rather than the pass that Obama received on pretty much everything.

[Jester2069]

10:59 PM on 08/22/2011

Very true guys. I watched clips of MSNBC and Fox all day today, and every time they came to mention the candidates....Paul was left out. It's probably why Larry Hirsch of all people posted a blog comment about him today.

[den1953]

01:59 PM on 08/22/2011

It is sad to see Congressman Paul get no respect from his own party the man is like the Rodney Dangerfield of American politics, not only does he not get any attention from the American media but he can't get any traction from the Republican Party, when asked question in the last debate even the Fox News moderators rolled their eyes at his answers.............