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California Grocery Workers Reject Contract Deal

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08/21/11 11:02 PM ET   AP

LOS ANGELES — Thousands of Southern California grocery workers have voted overwhelmingly to reject a health care proposal from major supermarket chains and authorize their union leaders to call a strike, a spokesman said Sunday.

More than 90 percent of voters from the United Food and Commercial Workers Local 770, which has about 62,000 members, rejected the proposal from Vons, Ralphs and Albertsons stores.

The rejection automatically authorizes union officials to call a strike after 72 hours

Union local spokesman Mike Shimpock said the union would not release precise numbers on how many voted, but said the turnout was "huge."

The union will report the results to the dispute's federal mediator on Monday, and Shimpock said more talks would likely follow.

"We're willing to come back to the table and stay there," Shimpock said. "Our goal here is not to go on strike, we don't want to go on strike, but unfortunately we've been pushed into a corner by these corporations."

A four-month strike and lockout that began in 2003 cost Ralphs and other grocery chains an estimated $2 billion.

Vons stressed the fact that negotiations were ongoing.

"The employers intend to stay focused and engaged in the bargaining process," a Vons release said. "We remain hopeful that we can peacefully reach a settlement that works for both sides. We would urge the union leadership to do the same."

To prepare for a possible strike, Albertsons has started to advertise for temporary replacement workers to make sure its stores can stay open, chain spokesman Fred Muir said Sunday.

"Asking for strike authorization is a common tactic in negotiations and does not necessarily mean a strike will be called. Getting sidetracked by these tactics – especially when it is clear there is no complete contract offer on the table and because productive negotiations continue – will only delay our ability to reach a fair agreement for our associates," Muir said. "The real work toward getting a fair contract will happen at the negotiating table and we hope that's where the union leadership will focus its attention when we return to bargaining."

Ralphs Grocery Co. spokeswoman Kendra Doyel said her chain is committed to staying at the table to negotiate, and the grocers' proposal was affordable and good for employees and their families.

"Our employees want to keep working, and our stores are ready to serve customers," Doyel said Sunday.

Union members have been working without a contract since March.

Both sides announced last month that they had reached a tentative agreement on the employers' contributions to pension benefits, but payments to the union health care trust fund have been a major sticking point.

Ralphs currently pays more than 90 percent of employee health coverage costs, Doyel said. Workers hired before 2004 pay nothing for health insurance while those hired later pay either $7 a week for single coverage or $15 a week for family coverage.

The companies' proposal would raise that to $9 a week for singles and $23 a week for families. That is much lower than the average cost of health care insurance in California, she said.

But Shimpock said that the union is concerned about the long-term sustainability of the health care fund.

"With the amount they're offering now, the fund would go bankrupt by next September," he said. "We're worried about increased costs, of course. But it doesn't matter if premiums are $2 or $200 if the benefits are eventually eliminated."

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LOS ANGELES — Thousands of Southern California grocery workers have voted overwhelmingly to reject a health care proposal from major supermarket chains and authorize their union leaders to call ...
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TheArtisan
Lighten The Rhetoric - Tighten The Science
06:04 AM on 08/23/2011
Hang in there and fight for it. Some of us in the "corporations-are-people-too" private sector are paying upwards of $580 per month for our health insurance to cover our families.

If you give in, they will take it all and get away with it.
02:06 AM on 08/23/2011
Seems like the union should have the courage of thier convictions and make a stand...go on strike....

There are 5 or 6 people ready and willing to go to work and replace each and every one of these people who are being taken advantage of so badly by the evil businesses.
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FreedomHaawk
09:29 PM on 08/22/2011
I had to read this article TWICE! The balls of these union members. They failed to realize, that the problem is NOT with the grocery chains. The problem is the high cost of health care! To make matters worst the chains are paying over 90% of the cost and the ENTITLEMENT babies are still crying! Job sponsored Health insurance is not a FUNDAMENTAL right.
01:58 AM on 08/23/2011
There's so much wrong with your post it would take years to unwind the spaghetti of illogic twisting your brain.
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wbthacker
Can YOU pass the Turing Test?
10:43 AM on 08/24/2011
"Job sponsored Health insurance is not a FUNDAMENTA­L right. "

Correct. That's why they're *bargaining* for it.

Look, this is just two groups negotiating a contract. A $2 weekly increase in employee contribution would be a hundred dollars a year, and the two sides are just dickering over who will pay that. They're also talking about salary scales, other benefits, and quality of work life.

It's like telling a car salesman, "Your asking price is too high, but I'll buy it if you throw in free air conditioning." That doesn't mean you think you have a fundamental right to air conditioning. It doesn't make you greedy or a communist.
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Suresp77
I'm In!
11:00 AM on 08/24/2011
I LOVE the analogy F&F for that!
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FreedomHaawk
02:56 PM on 08/26/2011
Your analogy above is according to FREE market. The same method the owners are applying. Entitlement cannot function under free market.
02:14 PM on 08/22/2011
You people are focusing on one aspect of their negotations. Read the article. It is not only the health care increases.They are fighting to keep jobs and not decrease salaries. I know for a fact that delivery people start at $8.25/hr. They are not in this union. I do not think that anyone would suffer a strike just for $2.00 more per week in healthcare costs if it did not also include destroying the current health care plans. I have delivery from Vons. I will NOT order if they go on strike.
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IndyFem
05:06 PM on 08/22/2011
1990-2010
Campaign Contributions by Unions
#13 of the highest union contributers is......
United Food and Commercial Workers Union 23,182,000/ 334,200 (over 23.5million)
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Suresp77
I'm In!
10:40 AM on 08/24/2011
yes, so? Are you listing Wall street banks giving Billions to defeat any regulation of their gambling? how about Oil Companies bribing essentially, congressmen to weaken and attack the EPA so they can pollute our environment and poison our water?

And where is your indignation about the Pharma companies castrating the FDA so that they rubber stamp any nonsense they make only to poison our population and addict our children?

The ONLY people campaigning and paying for causes important to US as workers are the Unions- what is wrong with all of you? The Chamber openly supports, with Billions of $ sending our jobs overseas and causing our unemployment- how can you be so blind?
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02:08 PM on 08/22/2011
If we had single-payer this wouldn't be an issue.
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wbthacker
Can YOU pass the Turing Test?
10:47 AM on 08/24/2011
Do you mean single-payer health care, or single-payer groceries? In the former case, there'd be no healthcare bills to pay. In the latter, grocery workers would be government employees and could be fired if they went on strike.
redonthehead
Winning trophies for my game face alone
01:57 PM on 08/22/2011
I hope Albertsons Ralphs and Vons grow a spine and tell these unions to take a hike. Are these unions fighting for safer working conditions? No. They just want more money. They want more benefits. If these grocery store companies would simply tell these people to take a hike, they could hire new employees in a blink. What's CA's unemployment rate again? These people stock shelves and work the check out. Seriously? It doesn't matter what the profits are to the company, the value of work is much lower than they're being compensated.
05:15 PM on 08/22/2011
Wrong. We aren't asking for more, just to keep what we have. As for the value of the work being low in your eyes I can only say that you clearly haven't ever worked in a grocery store.
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FreedomHaawk
09:20 PM on 08/22/2011
I have and the unions only make it worst. Unions add no value to the bottom line.
07:30 PM on 08/22/2011
I posted this somewhere else but here I go again. If the company does not price health insurance that the employees can afford. Those employees will go on medicade, kid care and all sorts of government insurance. I live in florida where most of the grocery store workers are on gov aid.
NoBlueDogs
FIGHT Offshoring!!!
04:12 AM on 08/24/2011
Well said. Companies can pay workers more or workers can go on medicaid and welfare, and become a tax burden to us all.

Or maybe redonthehead would prefer they be cut off from welfare and medicaid and just do without?
12:36 PM on 08/22/2011
The root cause of rise in healthcare is Obamacare

Why can they ask Pelosi and Obama to pay out the DNC fund ? They have billions...
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NakedMoleRat
10:09 PM on 08/22/2011
The cost of healthcare has risen 3.2% the past year.

From 1999 to 2009, healthcare costs rose 131%. Or, 13.1% a year increase each of those years. Obama had been in office one year, and Obamacare was not in effect.

So, just why do you say the "root cause of the rise in healthcare is Obamacare?

Facts do not support your claim at all.
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TheArtisan
Lighten The Rhetoric - Tighten The Science
06:07 AM on 08/23/2011
You really need to turn off Faux News and come back to reality...
12:29 PM on 08/22/2011
Real smart grocery workers... strike in the midst of a serious recession. Your jobs will be replaced with unemployed folks IMMEDIATELY. You are already getting a bargain for your coverage, and what is being offered is still WAY BELOW what the average family is paying. I'll be sure to shop at these stores during the strike.
05:15 PM on 08/22/2011
Well Ted...you get what you give. Hopefully someday you will be a less spiteful person.
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FreedomHaawk
09:34 PM on 08/22/2011
Ted you need PHD to do this job. What's wrong with you brother. In addition, the stress and agony increases the need for 90% health insurance coverage. Put on a LIBERAL glasses and you will see what I am seeing.
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Rahm11219
12:08 PM on 08/22/2011
Nice to see a union fighting the good fight. This doesn't happen nearly often enough.
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
01:12 PM on 08/22/2011
Doesn't matter to me. I'll be crossing picket lines. No problem.
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Bryan Boru
Engineer, Libertarian
04:55 PM on 08/22/2011
$7 a week for health coverage!!! If union members don't like that, then union members are correctly called greedy, no if's, and's, or but's.
11:46 AM on 08/22/2011
"90% of health care costs and if you were hired before 2004 the company pays 100%?" That isn't going to work at this point in time.
05:16 PM on 08/22/2011
Why?
10:40 PM on 08/22/2011
Because it just costs too much...maybe when big pharma and medicare waste and fraud are controlled but, as we all know, that's not going to happen.
NoBlueDogs
FIGHT Offshoring!!!
04:16 AM on 08/24/2011
It works for their CEOs. Why not the workers?
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11:36 AM on 08/22/2011
http://www.forbes.com/profile/ron-burkle

Billions and billions yet they have to ask the employees to give more and more.
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11:30 AM on 08/22/2011
Before anyone belittles these workers you should talk to one of them and see the majority are forced to work part time hours and swing shifts....not fun. Anything to keep from paying benefits and to spread the workforce out. Just another situation where these workers have to work two jobs to survive.
12:10 PM on 08/22/2011
as G.W. Bush once responded to a woman who said she worked 3 part-time jobs. "How uniquely American." ( read: hard working, loyal but self destructively gullible ).
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MisterCee
The Ruler's back!
12:59 PM on 08/22/2011
These people will continue to belittle the grocery workers because Americans are inherently jealous. They hate to see someone do better than them. Instead of cheering on their fellow worker, they side with the corporations because American people have a 'crab in the barrel' mentality.
06:35 PM on 08/23/2011
These Union shops have LOST more jobs than they have created, as grocery chains have CLOSED down stores or eliminated other competitors just to give union workers sweeter deals. Thus forcing the consumer to pay more for their groceries as competition shrinks. It is a sad thing that we are down to 3 major grocery store chains in So-Cal. As union BENEFITS have rose over the years our choices as consumers have shrunk, and prices for our groceries have RISEN and many NEIGHBORHOOD stores were closed ( eliminating union jobs ) by these chains in order to be able to PAY for the sweet deals they "negotiated" with the unions. I just find it APPALLING that ANYONE be threatening to strike during THIS economy. They should be thankful that they have jobs. If they CHOOSE to strike AGAIN I will take my business elsewhere to a privately owned and operated market, and thus withdraw my support (dollars) from ALL union grocery stores for GOOD.
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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
10:29 AM on 08/22/2011
Single payer because American health care is too important to leave to for profit industry.
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jmdziuban1
Heeey, Mr Spaceman.
11:51 AM on 08/22/2011
It is also less expensive, for both employee and employer.
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
01:13 PM on 08/22/2011
I oppose socialized medicine.
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boxhead
04:54 PM on 08/22/2011
Thus you oppose logic and support higher medical costs.
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300millionblindmice
08:30 AM on 08/22/2011
Shimpock said that the union is concerned about the long-term sustainability of the health care fund.

I wonder if the $9 per week premium had anything to do with the sustainability of the health care fund? What the premiums would be if they were tied to inflation of health care costs? What are the union dues and when were they last increased and by how much? Has the unions bought any stocks in the companies?
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OSCPJ
Want it? Work 4 it. No 1 has ever drown in sweat.
11:23 AM on 08/22/2011
Fanned, but the only response you are going to get is how you hate Americans and how you want your child to work in slave labor. And how we owe the union, and by consumers paying more, the worker has more money....................................blah, blah, blah. How about Liberals pay more for cable, govt, unions?
NoBlueDogs
FIGHT Offshoring!!!
04:19 AM on 08/24/2011
Look up the "Law of Iron Wages".

The CEOs of these companies, doing a job that a chimp could do, get millions of dollars apiece in wages and perks.

The workers, meanwhile, get told to pay more for health care, get paid less in wages, and then they're told to be happy it doesn't get worse... which it inevitably does.

So you can be happy then when these workers qualify for Medicaid and welfare and you're stuck paying for that.
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mpilkanis
Attitude Adjustments Done Here
08:00 AM on 08/22/2011
Sure, let's eliminate unions and even the right to unionize, even though it's protected under a little something called the First Amendment, so that we can all live in a Teabag/GOP utopia and be wage slaves from birth through death. Life sure is grand when all you do is drink tea.
12:30 PM on 08/22/2011
Who said anything about eliminating unions? This is about greed and these employees are being offered a VERY fair deal.
05:18 PM on 08/22/2011
Our wages have stagnated or years, our pension has been gutted and now they want to wreck out health care. How is that a fair deal at all?
07:32 PM on 08/22/2011
How do you know what exactly they are being offered? Are you a negotiator?