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Welfare Reform Leaving More In Poverty

Welfare Reform

First Posted: 08/23/11 08:59 AM ET Updated: 10/24/11 06:12 AM ET

Sasha Mandel says she never imagined going on welfare. But her plans for a career and the independence she craved ran headlong into a pair of unforeseen developments -- an unplanned pregnancy at 18, and the worst job market since the Great Depression.

In April 2009, freshly unemployed and devoid of savings, Mandel reluctantly walked into a state office in Phoenix to apply for welfare. Her caseworker was sympathetic, swiftly arranging emergency food aid along with cash assistance. But she was also clear on the limits of that relief: Under the terms of Arizona’s welfare program, Mandel could draw a welfare check for no more than three years.

That timeframe was about to get shorter. This April, cash-strapped Arizona tightened the limit on welfare payments to two years. Mandel learned about the change when she received a letter from the state in June. She was only a few weeks away from exhausting her benefits.

“That letter," she said, "it just said to me that they decided to change the rules when the game for single mothers is already really, really hard."

Fifteen years after President Clinton joined with congressional Republicans and affixed his signature to a law that “ended welfare as we know it” -- imposing a five-year time limit on federal cash assistance for poor families, while allowing states to set shorter limits -- the social safety net is failing to keep pace with the needs of struggling Americans, many experts say. Millions of single mothers are falling through the cracks, scrambling to support their families with neither paychecks nor government aid.

Welfare reform, one of the hallmark events of the Clinton presidency, was supposed to be a healthy tradeoff: Single mothers who had grown dependent on government checks would instead go out and work. The federal government gave the states lump sums of money, known as block grants, to create programs that would prepare, prompt and push poor single mothers accustomed to living on welfare into the workforce, providing job training, resume-writing tutorials and subsidized child care.

But the time limits on cash aid were enacted in the mid-1990s, in the midst of one of the most vibrant job markets in modern times. Today, with nearly 14 million people officially out of work and jobseekers outnumbering available positions by more than four-to-one, the logic of those reforms is being overwhelmed by the reality of a stark shortage of paychecks, experts say.

“Today, everybody is expected to work,” said Sheila Zedlewski, an economist at the Urban Institute and co-author of an institute study released last week that examines the consequences of welfare reform during the recession. “The problem is finding a job is incredibly hard.”

Since the beginning of the recession in late 2007, the nation’s unemployment rate has increased by 88 percent, while welfare caseloads have grown just 14 percent, according to the Urban Institute report.

Experts say this disparity reflects the inadequacy of remaining welfare programs in the face of a veritable epidemic of joblessness. During a period of national distress, fewer and fewer people have been able to secure help to meet their basic needs, according to the report.

Between 2007 and 2010 -- just as the economy was contracting and joblessness was rising, generating greater demand for public assistance -- welfare caseloads dropped in 13 states, according to the Urban Institute report. In Arizona, which faced a particularly powerful blow to its finances in the form of a sustained plunge in housing prices, the welfare caseload dropped by 48 percent during that timeframe.

Many of those who advocated for ending welfare as an unlimited entitlement say the change has been beneficial -- the share of single, never married mothers in the workforce climbed from 62.9 percent in 1996 to 72.4 percent a decade later, according to federal data.

“Poverty rates are still lower and work rates still higher than before welfare reform,” said Ron Haskins, who played a key role in shaping the policy as a senior Republican congressional adviser, and who is now co-director of the Brookings Center on Children and Families. “In that sense, welfare reform has been a success.”

But as Haskins acknowledges, the reforms have never managed to address the barriers confronting a small subset of welfare recipients with very limited education, significant physical and mental health problems, or unhealthy children, preventing them from entering the workforce.

The share of people who both live in poverty with no reported income and lack welfare assistance has changed significantly since welfare reform. In 1996, 1 in 8 single mothers fit this profile, according to Zedlewski. By 2008, the most recent year for which this data is available, that figure had climbed to 1 in 5, she said.

In the early days after welfare reform, many states enacted stricter time limits, Arizona included, and beefed up programs offering subsidized child care -- a crucial component for single mothers required to work. The budget crisis assailing states has prompted many states to effectively roll back these programs.

States around the country are slashing cash benefits, reducing time limits and, in some cases, imposing strict work requirements on welfare applicants, said LaDonna Pavetti, an expert on welfare who works at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The practices also make it very hard for parents already dealing with a job crisis, a disability or other complications to qualify for cash aid, she said.

In the 2000s, states also began shifting federal funds that could be used for cash benefits for single mothers to cover other costs. Some of the money went to cover the cost of child care or transportation assistance. But large shares were also used to fund state child welfare agencies, which frequently don’t get all the resources they need from states.

In 1997, the first year the reforms took effect in most states, Georgia used 73 percent of its federal welfare block grant to provide cash aid to poor families, according to data the state reported to the federal government. By 2009, the most recent year for which complete data is available, Georgia spent just 11 percent of its block grant on cash aid. Spending in Florida, Texas and Arizona plunged by similar margins.

The impact of these cuts is easy to discern: Far fewer poor families are being given cash assistance. In 2009, Georgia and Texas each provided cash aid to less than 10 percent of poor families, according to the Urban Institute report.

"You have so many people who were pushed off welfare who didn't find work in the beginning, and today there are so many people who can't get welfare at all," said Peter Edelman, a Georgetown University law professor who resigned from a senior position in the Clinton administration to protest the President's decision to sign welfare reform into law. "As an anti-recessionary tool, welfare as we know it today is useless."

Edelman compares the paltry expansion of the nation's welfare rolls during the recession -- from about 3.9 million families in 2007 to about 4.4 million families in 2010 -- to what happened to the food stamp program. During the same time period, food stamp program participation rose from about 30 million households to 44 million, reflecting real levels of economic need.

"What we've done is make things worse," Edelman said. "There are now people who cannot find work, and who can not get welfare."

INTO THE GREAT RECESSION

When Mandel walked across the stage at her high school graduation in Phoenix in the spring of 2008, she was walking into an economy that was already in the midst of a punishing downturn.

She soon managed to secure a receptionist job at a doctor’s office in a Phoenix suburb for $10 an hour. Getting there entailed riding the bus nearly two hours in each direction. But she was pleased to be employed; pleased to have what she considered a “good-paying job” for a person fresh out of high school.

Two weeks later, she found a second job in downtown Phoenix helping to organize fundraisers for a nonprofit that works with the disabled. It paid $9 an hour and involved its own hour and a half bus commute.

Mandel had survived what she described as an unstable childhood, which included a move from California to Arizona when she was 13 so that her mother could follow "some man." She spent her high school years living in a group home. The state placed her there after her mother was sent to prison, she said. (Mandel said she doesn’t remember the precise charge.)

Given that background, Mandel said she was particularly keen to establish her own household, and she was clear that money was something she was going to need. But two months after her high school graduation, Mandel found out she was pregnant. The baby’s father, her high school boyfriend, already had one child. The relationship ended before Mandel delivered. She is awaiting a court date at which she hopes he will be ordered to pay child support, she said.

In early 2009, physically drained by her long commute, she quit her suburban doctor’s office job to focus full time on her fundraising responsibilities in Phoenix. She took satisfaction in working with the disabled. But the recession took a toll on fundraising -- and in March 2009, she was laid off.

“I know they really liked me," Mandel said. "I really loved that job, but they couldn’t afford to keep me."

At the time, Mandel, who speaks in chirpy sentences punctuated by nervous laughter, was living in a drama-filled, crowded house just outside Phoenix, staying with a friend’s family. She was seven months pregnant and cognizant that competition for jobs was fierce. Yet she remained confident she would find a job.

But her spirits soon took a blow as she launched her search for work. At an interview for a restaurant job, her status as a single mother quickly emerged as a disqualifier, she said.

“The manager just told me, ‘Why would I hire you when I have like 10 people with college degrees and no children who want this job?’” she recalled. “’They aren’t going to need to leave when there is a problem with day care.’ That really opened my eyes. I didn't stop looking, but I kind of knew I might not find anything.”

Mandel applied for unemployment benefits. But as a part-time worker who had been with her past employer for less than a year, she did not qualify.

One morning in late March 2009, she went to a central Phoenix welfare office, waiting two hours for her turn to meet with a caseworker. Eight months pregnant, she lumbered into her caseworker’s paper-jammed cubicle and confronted a barrage of questions.

Where was she living? (By then, in a transitional homeless shelter.) How much money did she have in the bank? (None.) What had she done to try to find work? (Looked and looked, to no avail.) Who was the baby’s father? (A man who was working part time and could hardly pay his own bills.)

By the end of the interview, Mandel had a debit card that enabled her to immediately draw the electronic equivalent of food stamps. As far as the state was concerned, she was a woman in crisis.

The social worker explained that in a few weeks, she would begin receiving $210 per month in cash assistance.

“They told me that it would only last three years so I would have to use the time wisely,” Mandel said. “She was real clear about that.”

Since that warning, Mandel has been on so many interviews that she said she has lost count. Each one requires a bus trip -- usually half an hour or more -- or asking a friend for a ride. The sorts of jobs she is now willing to take have expanded: “Absolutely anything that’s legal and pays.”

She has had a few short-lived jobs. In the fall of 2009, Mandel secured a three-month internship with a local nonprofit helping other young people plan and execute their path to higher education. She was hired as a nanny, but two weeks later her employer lost his job and could no longer afford her time. She was nearly hired to work at a community center, but she failed the required math test.

Between jobs and failed job applications, Mandel has participated in job search and training programs assigned by her caseworker -- a requirement to keep her cash assistance and the day care voucher provided by the state of Arizona.

“I’d like to work," she said. "But it’s like, where are the jobs?”

When her welfare benefits ended in July, so did her child care voucher, putting her in the ultimate single mother catch-22: Without a job, she cannot afford child care, and without child care, how can she work?

Last week, Mandel skipped a job interview for the first time in two years because she was unable to arrange child care. Toddlers are not well received on job interviews, she said.

She was was busy moving into a new, low-cost South Phoenix apartment that the city helped her secure back when she still had her welfare benefits.

Keeping her apartment requires that she find a job in the next six weeks. She will need to cover her $468 monthly rent and her $72 cellphone bill, not to mention the cost of day care, bus passes and the inevitable clothing she has to buy for her growing 2-year-old daughter, Nevaeh.

“I’m not really sure what I can do,” she said. “I’m looking everywhere for an escape. Well, some kind of job."

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Sasha Mandel says she never imagined going on welfare. But her plans for a career and the independence she craved ran headlong into a pair of unforeseen developments -- an unplanned pregnancy at 18, a...
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02:42 PM on 09/15/2011
Humm, the problem is people have too many children. The economy is just too tough to support this kind of behavior. Unsustainable.
Both parties are anti-family or they would have living wages and good health care benefits.
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05:54 PM on 08/25/2011
The ink wasn't dry on this "reform bill" before people on welfare figured out a way around it. It kind of always amazed me that people who figure these things out are actually smarter than those of us who worked 3 jobs when raising our kids.
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12:38 AM on 08/26/2011
What is your source for this "way around it"?
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11:41 AM on 08/26/2011
I was living in a small town (less than 5K) in Tx and I knew some of the women on assistance. First it was 2 women who had all of a sudden didn't have their kids. Then there was another few. So I asked someone at work why all of these women (many I'd known casually and had seen at the school for years with their kids) didn't have custody anymore. It was just way too many kids not being with their Moms and I had heard no rumors or anything of any abuse of them being removed. Anyway, these women had given their Mom or parents legal custody so they could collect assistance for the kids. Ironically, everyone laughed at me for being so naive.
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demilieu
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12:04 PM on 08/28/2011
Welfare in America was ended back then. All the poor have since are food stamps help and perhaps some HUD housing assistance. Both require kids under 18 in the house. Housing vouchers are very limited in availability. There's a two year wait list in many places. So, I don't get your point.
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gunrunner99
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05:04 PM on 08/25/2011
Welfare should never be just for single mothers with children. They choose their life-style-government benefits over father/husband material in a man. Let them get CS from the fathers within a reason, because the daddy isn't the only one to enjoyed the sex. Let the money from welfare programs go to paying for free breakfast, lunch and basic medical care for all children. Welfare is a drug which prevents women from thinking about the consequences of having random sex, etc. My grandmother could only get $10 in food stamps a month, so I really don't support a continous welfare system. The elderly gets nothing and the young women with children get everything given to them for doing nothing.
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12:28 PM on 08/26/2011
Welfare should NEVER be dependent on whether or not you have children, how many children you have, or anything of the like.
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Dianne Jarreau
01:58 PM on 08/25/2011
Until my information is posted, I take full claim for my own reportage as my own experience and research.
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Dianne Jarreau
01:49 PM on 08/25/2011
By now, I guess you notice my thesis that Workfare was planned to fail. Clinton got his trade deal okayed by Bradley Corp. and he instituted Workfare in a company town where the company hired nobody who was non-white. And did so while maintaining a reputation as friend to the Black Man and the next best thing to actually being Black. Barack Obama saw through this, supported by David Geffen formerly one of the big three with Jeffery Katzenberg and Spielberg at Dreamworks.
Geffen sold his art collection to throw a fund raiser for Obama against Mrs. Clinton for President. That's another story....
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spoonbill1963
01:37 PM on 08/25/2011
The big problem isn't poverty as much as it is stupidity.
11:23 AM on 09/13/2011
Many people who are in prison today are reportedly very intelligent. Poor choices got them into the big house. They spend all day finding ways to beat the system and some do. They have all the time in the world to think. "The big problem is not poverty, race, etc. it is stupidity".
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Dianne Jarreau
01:31 PM on 08/25/2011
Meanwhile Bradley Corp.or Bradleys per se seemingly made no further news relative to the eventually Workfare program. Except there was one item that caught my attention after Poppy Bush won his election campaign for the presidency and, thanks to Karl Rove, defeated Pierre du Pont,IV. Mrs. Bradley of the Milw.Art Center hired Pierre du Pont,IV to be her book-keeper for "The Lion House" which she ran as an office for her art-project preserving artifacts of the former Italian mansions from the area of Brady street south to Lincoln High School. I was surprised that Pierre was paid a piddling sum for this employment which was based on the fact
that his ancestor who founded Longwood had been such an expert accountant when he was a mere lad of 18 who traveled to the company towns to check their account books and later did miracles for Dwight Morrow who was attorney to financier Morgan who also received the benefits of the accountant's genius of perception.
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Dianne Jarreau
01:27 PM on 08/25/2011
My brother had alerted me as far back as 1979 while we were at home when our father died, and before returning to his job in Alaska, that something different had happened to his old high school, Messmer, in Milwaukee. I didn't make the connection at the time as to why it had changed from an Archdiocesan Catholic high school to an all African-American student body that wore the equivalent of prep school uniforms, a concept that had been talked about and sounded kind of faddish until it actually went into practice. You will note that this was long before Bill Clinton took an interest. in promoting that as a system that was a corelate in Workfare.
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Dianne Jarreau
12:13 PM on 08/25/2011
At this point, I will go on to what Bradley family members had already done that would affect Blacks in the matter of Welfare reduced to Workfare since no other jobs were created locally, as
XzibitX explains in several posts in vicinity of my own remarks. I had for quite a long time known one of the family members without really knowing that they were related to the industry operating in Milwaukee; or, that she was in the habit of giving stipends to academics at Univ.of Wisconsin-Madison to write papers similarly related to The Bell Curve. These could be published through Republican publishing houses such as those who publish for Congressmen in Republican districts.
Racism Resurgent
How Media Let The Bell Curve's Pseudo-Science Define the Agenda on Race ... The Bell Curve was accorded attention totally disproportionate to the merits of ...
www.fair.org/index.php?page=1271 - Similar to Racism Resurgent

The Bell Curve Flattened - By Nicholas Lemann - Slate Magazine
Jan 18, 1997 ... Charles Murray is a publicity genius, and the publication of his and Richard Herrnstein's book, The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class ...

www.slate.com/id/2416/
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Dianne Jarreau
11:23 AM on 08/25/2011
This article is meant to give you a scare-note when what you need to know is that the Clinton fix was a hoax. I started to explain what the real intent of Workfare was when it was introduced in Milwaukee but yesterday's connection must have had after-shocks from the earthquake. It takes more than a few words to tell you the truth of the deal that was made and that it was a con game from the start.
When Bill Clinton showed up with German Chancellor Helmut Kohl in Milwaukee, he was really doing a favor for Germany and the Bradley Corporation that had already done its best to propagandize to the detriment of Milwaukee's Black population.
11:44 PM on 08/24/2011
I hate to say it, but this all started (the unemployment situation) in Dec 2007, a year after the Dems took over both houses of Congress (Jan 2007) and forced through the minimum wage change. In Dec 2006 the unemployment rate was 4.6%. You can check the gov website if you don't believe it. Just search unemployment rate+Dec 2006. We should have a different wage for those under 18 at least. It would help a lot of youth get experience.
07:40 AM on 08/25/2011
Bush inherited a 4.5% unemployment rate. His predecessor, a Democrat, created 22.3 million jobs in 8 years. Bush had nothing to do with that or the employment levels he inherited.

However, he created practically NO jobs in that 8 years. He coasted off of Clinton's numbers. Bush created a paltry 1.1 million jobs in 8 years. Break that down by month to month.

And you want to blame Democrats for the fact that Bush didn't create enough jobs to maintain the 4.5%? I'm also willing to bet you that Bush cooked the books to hide the job loss during his administration. But Bush left with the unemployment rate hovering near 8%, leaking 800,000 jobs per month and telling the country that the economy was sound.

Right now it's the Republicans that block every jobs bill because they're not going to sign one unless they can extort what they want out of the bill. They want permanent tax cuts for the job cremators that outsource. Well, these companies have had the lowest tax rates in 60 years and they had that under Bush, so why did Bush only put up 1.1 million jobs if these tax breaks were supposed to incentivize corporations to invest in the US?
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11:48 AM on 08/25/2011
@XzibitX "Bush inherited a 4.5% unemployme­nt rate. His predecesso­r, a Democrat, created 22.3 million jobs in 8 years". My post above your own starts to explain that with the introduction of Workfare in Milwaukee during a State visit of Helmut Kohl who came to make a purchase from Bradley Corporation of Milw.Wi. of agricultural equipment. This part fits neatly with Clinton concept of NAFTA which Sir James Goldman of the UK had already told him was The Trap (title of a book by Sir James Goldman which explained that during an economic downturn, one member economically sinking would take down the whole network in economic dependence. Clinton's job surge on the books consisted of the numbers transferred from the rolls of Blacks on Welfare who were removed to Workfare. This is fancy book-keeping which is a criminal offense if anybody else does it and cooks the books.. Ironically, the deal among participants Clinton,Kohl,and Bradley Corp, is an illusion. Bradley had a policy of never having hired any non-whites during the years that it paid dividends to the Bradley family heirs.
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twhiting9275
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12:31 PM on 08/26/2011
"However, he created practicall­y NO jobs in that 8 years."

Yet, ironically, unemployment remained STABLE (not great, but stable) during Bush's elected period, until Obama came into the picture and started threatening tax increases. Funny how that works, right?

It's NOT the government's responsibility to "create jobs". Government created jobs mean government created debt, which we, the taxpayers have to take care of. It's the responsibility of the private sector to create and maintain jobs.
07:41 AM on 08/25/2011
Bu||$h!t.

During the 2004 Tax Repatriation Holiday enjoyed by corporations, they brought back or repatriated $260 billion into this country. You know what they did with it? Did they create US jobs? NO. They played stock buy back bingo with the money, and they gave massive bonuses to CEO's. 92% of the money was used for that. Where was the job creation? Overseas. Google the 2004 Tax Repatriation Holiday Report.
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Dianne Jarreau
11:53 AM on 08/25/2011
Just as I said above, XzibitX
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gunrunner99
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08:46 PM on 09/10/2011
Where is job creation now?
10:38 PM on 08/24/2011
Welfare reform is a joke. I work in a county building where everyday I see young mothers with swollen bellies pushing an infant or toddler in a stroller, standing in line at the welfare office like it's the thing to do. This is something that I see everyday, 5 days a week, which lets me know that welfare reform is not the least bit discouraging.

Will we ever live in a society where people don't expect handouts, where they get out and pound the pavement for a job like their lives depended on it? I know the economy is pretty bad off, but what was the excuse 15 - 20 years ago? Let's get to a place where welfare is once again used to aid families whose loved ones are serving in the military.
Oginikwe
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11:03 PM on 08/24/2011
"Let's get to a place where welfare is once again used to aid families whose loved ones are serving in the military."

Wow!! Really??!!
How about we pay our soldiers enough (for risking their lives) so that their families DON'T need welfare--how about we pay them at the same rate that the privatized military contractors pay their workers!
05:06 PM on 08/25/2011
I believe active duty soldiers serving in a combat role should be tax exempt.
11:43 PM on 08/24/2011
This illustrates the problem with our system. Our government spends 50% of our budget on National Defense and the families of our soldiers are on welfare? The DOD wastes money on $640 toile tseats, to justify their budgets and military families are on WIC to feed their children? The DOD can't account for $1 trillion in spending, as well as some trivial things like tanks and missles, and our soldiers are worried about keeping a roof over their head?

Is the problem starting to become clear?
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Jguig
12:48 AM on 08/25/2011
I wonder why Democrats did nothing about this problem when they had total control over the government for two years.
09:16 PM on 08/24/2011
For people who are judging another for "poor choices" and the fact that this woman failed a math test, I'm seeing a shocking lack of reading comprehension. And for poor choices, everyone on this planet has made one. One slipup during a rowdy college party and this could have been you, either the mother or the father. We've all made poor choices, we've all done stupid things and we've all put ourselves in the path of disaster. We also got lucky.

What disgusts me the most are comments about labor camps and forced sterilization. Yes, I know all about what a gulag is. My father was born in one. Is that really what we want, in the land of the free? I won't dignify the forced sterilization comments with a response, other than to say that it's telling that only the women need to be sterilized, ignoring the men that helped them become single mothers...

But, it's good for corporate America, that we're getting so upset about a single mom on welfare, rather than focusing on the fact that American corporations are fleecing the American people. Our jobs have been outsourced, all in the name of shareholder confidence. We're paying to bolster companies that don't do a thing from America, other than to sell us foreign goods, with an American company logo on them. The single mom isn't living large on the back of the American taxpayer. General Motors is.
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Dianne Jarreau
12:43 PM on 08/25/2011
@DaLadnaTebya
I thought you might be interested to know that the Bush family has been very inclined to find the idea of enforced sterilization attractive ever since Poppy Bush's own father struck oil in Texas. Euthanasia seemed to have the topic of interest discussed around the family dinner table after that as Poppy was growing up(which was long before he ever went to work for Halliburton). But when he went out to speak to various pollitical clubs about it, Bush even tried to wrangle Margaret Sanger into a mutual support effort which just confused the heck out of her and she kept waffling on making a commitment.
I believe her daughter was a resident of Princeton borough and died during the decade that I was there between 1987 to approximately 1997; but I have forgotten her name!
03:06 PM on 08/25/2011
I remember reading quite a bit about that. I also remember reading about the estimated 65,000 forced sterilizations that occurred in the US. Actually, quite a few countries were involved in this kind of thing. Lots and lots of countries have tried eugenics and forced sterilization... and some of the leaders of these countries were found guilty of crimes against humanity for it.
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spoonbill1963
01:44 PM on 08/25/2011
We need forced sterilizat­ion in this country.
02:09 PM on 08/25/2011
Let me know how you feel about that when it's you in eugenics court facing the "chopping" block...
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06:20 PM on 08/24/2011
Their are 12 to 20 million aliens illegally in our country, plus their children. Most of them are unskilled and uneducated. This has a huge negative effect on the poverty rate, both directly and indirectly by lowering wages and employment levels of American citizens, especially the poor.
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spoonbill1963
01:44 PM on 08/25/2011
The illegals are taking jobs Americans should have.
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nypapajoe
04:14 PM on 08/24/2011
Let's discuss Corporate Wefare! Where the right wight talks about the failure of public welfare which if really studied one would find that the program has helped thousands of families but could of helped thousands more with a program that offered career training and education instead of just food stamps and money! But back to corporate welfare no one in government wants to address this entitlement that has contributed Billions to corporations that are generating Billions in profits on a quartly basis! Welfare anyone?
04:29 PM on 08/24/2011
Or a better question is why does almost every other industrialized nation offer 2 years vocational training and demand 2 years of public service. Like jbon911647 these rich people and business should live with the consequences of those choices, without the help of people who made more of the right choices. Which means that if a company is not willing to build itself its own labor force they should not have to deal with a labor shortage.
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spoonbill1963
01:46 PM on 08/25/2011
I knew eventually the freeloaders would start demanding vocational training once their unemployment ran out.
08:05 PM on 08/24/2011
Well said. The simple answers are divide and conquer, and laziness. Get them to fight each other over pennies while their masters loot billions. The plan works well, since the average citizen won't lift a finger to learn about massive subsidies, taxbreaks, and outright giveaways to corporations and the top 5%, but will punish EVERYONE to prevent welfare fraud, which is the exception and not the rule. It’s easy to attack my neighbor; I don’t need to educate myself. Heck, I can do that from my couch and not miss any of the game.

Corporate welfare is more than just the recent mammoth bailouts. Since 1960 America has spent more subsidizing the housing of the wealthy than on housing the poor. By a factor of 100’s. The same oil companies that quarter after quarter are enjoying the largest profits in the HISTORY OF CORPORATIONS are receiving taxpayer subsidies. The most cursory investigation will reveal that corporations use government to control public resources and raid the treasury. And we're worried about immigrants sneaking across the border? We're far too easy. Can you say fish in a barrel? Or as Master Don Henley would say:

A man with a briefcase can steal more money than any man with a gun
The Barons in the balcony are laughing, and pointing to the pit
They say "Oh look, they've grown accustomed to the smell. Now people love that sh*t
We're WORKIN IT!

What more?
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