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New Palliative Care Model May Help Doctors Predict How Long Patients Have Left To Live

Cancer Prognosis

First Posted: 08/26/11 04:54 PM ET Updated: 10/28/11 06:12 AM ET

Dr. David Casarett, chief medical officer at Penn Wissahickon Hospice, says there are some conversations that even the most seasoned doctors dread -- letting patients know how much time they have left to live.

Oncologists and palliative care physicians often work with cancer patients for months or years and grow close to them -- going to their granddaughter's wedding or exchanging birthday and anniversary cards. If treatment fails, those doctors then have to tell their patients the wrenching news.

"That's one of those times when I stop and take a really deep breath before I open that door," Casarett said. "Those are the discussions ... they are very difficult."

That difficulty may be at the heart of what experts describe as a tendency for health care providers to miscalculate how long patients with advanced, incurable cancer have left.

"Health care providers and physicians are really pretty bad at estimating prognoses," Casarett said, explaining that part of the issue is that there is no system of feedback in the same way there is if they miss a diagnosis.

"In general, not only are we not accurate, but we tend to be wrong in a more optimistic way, so we say six months to live when a person only has one," he added.

The implications of this are far-ranging. Without a clear sense of timing, patients often opt for aggressive, late-stage cancer treatments, getting chemotherapy just weeks before their death. Additionally, they are often left with too little time to prepare emotionally and consider their legacy.

But a new scoring system out of the U.K. is aimed at changing all that.

In a report published in the British Medical Journal, researchers introduced the Prognosis in Palliative Care Study (PiPS) model, which allows providers to plug factors -- including recent weight loss and current mental status -- into a computer interface to better gauge how long people with advanced cancer have left to live. A second model, dubbed "PiPS B" allows clinicians to also plug in blood test results, though such data is not always available in a clinical setting.

The researchers found the first model was at least as successful as clinicians at predicting whether patients had days, weeks or months left to live. And when a blood test was included, the test was significantly more accurate than any single doctor or nurse's prediction. This prompted the study's authors to conclude that the models have some definite advantages over existing ones, including clinicians' estimates.

"I should stress that it is not intended that patients should access this website themselves, since it is important that prognostic scores are not considered in isolation and such information should always be interpreted and sensitively communicated by a suitably trained health care professional," Dr. Patrick Stone of St. George's University of London, one of the study's authors, said in an email to HuffPost.

Indeed, in an accompanying editorial, Dr. Paul Glare, chief of Palliative and Pain Care Service at the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, said the way in which a doctor communicates a prognosis is just as important as actually getting it right. Many experts said they agree.

"Clinicians need better training in how to approach these conversations," said Dr. Tracey O'Connor, an assistant professor in the department of medicine at the Roswell Park Cancer Institute. "They take a great deal of social skill, and often they have gone through programs where they haven't been adequately prepared."

O'Connor said she thinks that training has improved in medical schools, but added that oftentimes physicians -- herself included -- only learn how to relay bad news by watching other doctors.

The authors of the new study say there are limitations to their research, describing it as a "first step" in the "incremental process of improving prognostic accuracy." They explain it needs to be adapted to a variety of platforms before it is practical to use at the bedside.

Outside experts like Glare said that though the new models are promising, he is still slightly disappointed that they are only as good as clinicians' predictions.

"We need to start thinking outside of the box and think of novel factors [researchers] could include in models to improve them, and get better than clinicians," he said.

In the meantime, physicians must balance the desires of patients and families to know how much time is left with the knowledge that end-of-life prognosis is an inexact science. They must also try to keep personal attachments and optimistic biases from coloring their judgment and accuracy.

"Prognosticating is very important because it allows us to get people into palliative care earlier when they get more benefits," O'Connor said. "Too often, when we refer them to hospice, they are already bed-bound, they haven't had time to prepare emotionally or legally -- to write what they want and say what they want. If we don't have accurate prognoses, we are not allowing people to prepare for death."


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05:18 PM on 08/29/2011
As long as health care is an immoral FOR-PROFIT business none of this matters.
As long as the 75% of the oncologist's salary is derived from how much chemo he/she can manipulate the patient into taking, none of this matters. (One chemo patient represents approximately $500,000 for the facilty and the doctor.)
As long as drug companies can make outrageous profits for treatment drugs while research for cures is under-funded or held back, none of this matters.
Health care is a human right for all, not just the people who can afford it.
This whole country, which is run by corporations, is SICK.
11:30 PM on 08/27/2011
We are ALL "terminal". We will all move forward through our lives and pass through death, perhaps into something else. It's unfortunate that alternatives are never offered by mainstream allopathic medicine.

Anyone with a terminal diagnosis should watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI

and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PwMmSxZANE
03:20 PM on 08/27/2011
I am an Emergency Physician, I've never had to estimate how long a patient will live, but I've had to tell many people their loved one has died. You're right, we need more education in Med School and Residency about ALL of this. Please make sure you fill out an Advanced Directive ("Living Will") now, and let your family know your wishes. I myself am terminal -- just found out in June. (Four Medical opinions, plus mine.) What I specifically asked them NOT to tell me is how long they expected me to live. I have decided on Palliative care -- my decision, just for me. Two of the Physicians were very uncomfortable telling me, compounded, I'm sure, by the fact that I'm also a Physician. The other two were great -- one even telling me the same joke I read here previously. If you think about it, we're ALL terminal -- no one's going to get out of this world alive. I know it's hard, but talk about this with your family. And live each day the best you can, because you never know if it's going to be your last.

Back to the topic. I sincerely hope this computer "prediction model" will not EVER be used to deny a patient care, even if they want aggressive care to the end.
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11:12 PM on 08/28/2011
How courageous of you to share this with us. Your last sentence says it all because you know the bean counters will be the first in line to want to see this implemented. Fanned.
12:19 AM on 08/29/2011
I am sorry you are dealing with your illness. Thanks for your wisdom.
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Roses
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01:28 PM on 08/27/2011
It was explained to me that chemo-therapy or radiation in late stage cancer helped to reduce cancer pain. I think that many would opt for treatment for that reason alone.
02:25 PM on 08/27/2011
I don't know about chemo, but radiation can definately help, especially in cases of bone cancer.
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12:38 PM on 08/27/2011
Wow, talk about going back to WWII Nazi Germany.

Sub-prime housing bubble was determined by computer models and 'securiterized' to be stamped with AAA ratings from Standard and Poors. - look at the disaster that followed.

Unbelievable that the UNTHINKABLE is even being reported on in the news!

Every elderly and sick patient should fear for their very lives!
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12:04 PM on 08/27/2011
Patients will live as long as they have the funds to pay for their care. When you are out of money you are done for. Just ask the finance office. In Reno, one medical center is now charging a "facilities fee" to cover the cost of the office you sit in while you wait. In some cases, the "fee" is more than the medical procedure and is not covered by insurance or Medicare. Cha Ching!
02:28 PM on 08/27/2011
Is that legal? (I know, that never stopped some people before, but I wish someone would challenge that in court, and get all the money refunded to the people so charged. Then their fine could go into the fund to provide care for the destitute -- IF they have one.)
12:23 PM on 08/28/2011
There's at least one large center in NC charging these fees too. My insurance actually covered the fee but required a copay - so I paid two copays for one office visit - one copay for the actual MD service and another one for the facility. Ridiculous.
I tried to get to the bottom of it (my insurance booklet actually states explicitly something about paying only one copay for each office visit), but the medical center claimed it was the insurance company's fault for charging two copays, and the insurance company said it was the medical center's fault for sending two separate claims (1. service, 2. facility) for one office visit.
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antaeus
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11:38 AM on 08/27/2011
An American financing scheme in which hospitals pay the electricity bill by performing expensive and unnecessary procedures on those in the last year of life isn't going to be adopting a rational test originating in the UK.
11:32 AM on 08/27/2011
Hopefully, the model may help reduce futile aggressive care costing millions and causing needless pain. Face it, when you're done, it's exit stage right and then on with the show.
07:52 PM on 08/27/2011
If the patient (not the family) wants "everything to be done", then they should have it. It's their body, you know. That said, I read an article recently (sorry, no citation) that says for most people more is spent for care in the last year of life than any other. I'm not sure why.
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AlsoSarah
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11:28 AM on 08/27/2011
Having lost a very young friend recently in a car accident, I can tell you, we only have today.
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11:21 AM on 08/27/2011
I have had so many wrong diagnosis it's crazy. One time I was told I was going to die. Wrong diagnosis. Once that my daughter would be seriously impaired. Wrong. One, I would never have children. Wrong. A couple more after that. Medical science is not always accurate. Second opinions are essential for any serious illness. It's why my daughter is here today. But also, we need to understand that we all pass at some time. If it's time, it's time. Sometimes it's a blessing.
10:26 AM on 08/27/2011
The new model works like this:
Do you have insurance?
How much money do you have?
You're gonna die.
10:22 AM on 08/27/2011
My mom was sent home to die (from stage 4 ovarian cancer) back in December of 2009. Five months later she was in complete remission.
Modern medicine is great but it's incomplete, it only treats the physical symptoms. There is also an emotional and mental aspect to every disease. My mother is living proof of that.
01:01 AM on 08/28/2011
I'm glad you mom is OK. Attitude makes a BIG difference -- including the attitude of family members!
04:23 PM on 08/28/2011
Thank you. :) (And I agree 100%!)
IndependentGadfly
Oh dear, lost another fan ...
09:51 AM on 08/27/2011
I subscribe to the die more quickly model ...
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SteveDenver
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07:30 AM on 08/27/2011
Now RickPerry and his henchmen won't have to limit their betting to just Texas teachers.