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White House Gets Debt Ceiling Victory As Government Shutdown Threat Lessens

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First Posted: 08/29/11 04:18 PM ET Updated: 10/29/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The White House appears to have achieved one of its primary goals following the debt ceiling deal, with congressional Republicans showing little interest in extending budget fights through the fall.

In meeting after meeting with liberal and labor constituency groups following the protracted debt debate, Obama administration officials offered three specific reasons as to why the resulting deal was not the cataclysm that progressives believed it to be.

For starters, it protected the Democratic Party's sacred cows: there were no cuts to Medicaid or Social Security or to Medicare benefits. Secondly, by averting default, the White House had escaped a hostage-taking situation bruised but intact. In meetings with progressive and labor organizations, White House director of public engagement Jon Carson and top economic adviser Gene Sperling stressed that the debt ceiling debate had been the one "brutal" battle that stood between the 2010 and 2012 elections. The administration's chief objective, they said, had been to lessen the bitterness of the pill the Democratic Party had to swallow.

"There was agreement in the room that House Republicans were willing to push us overboard to make their agenda happen," said one labor source briefed on the pitch President Obama made to the AFL-CIO's Executive Council days after the deal was reached. "No one wants to focus on the deal that was made. They want to focus on what we can do to make the economy work going forward."

Both of these defenses have their flaws, as was pointed out in various forums that administration officials attended. Entitlement programs may not have been in the final debt ceiling deal, but the super committee established under the final agreement will almost certainly pursue elements of entitlement reform -- and cuts to Medicare suppliers are part of the trigger that would kick in if the committee finds itself deadlocked. The notion of the debt ceiling debate being a poison pill, meanwhile, doesn't excuse what many stakeholders viewed as an uninspired negotiation strategy from the White House.

As for the third arm of the administration's pushback against critics, however, the president and his team do appear to be on a path to vindication. The spending levels set under the final agreement seem likely to preclude budgetary fights for the remainder of the fiscal year, despite being substantially higher than the alternative levels House Republicans proposed.

Under the debt ceiling deal, the budget cap set for 2012 is $1.043 trillion. For 2013, it is roughly $1.047 trillion. Adding in the additional Pell Grant funding included in the deal, those numbers rise to $1.053 trillion and $1.054 trillion, respectively. Under the budget passed by House Republicans this past spring, spending levels for 2012 are set at $1.019 trillion -- approximately $44 billion less than the debt ceiling cap.

There had been general concern among elected and non-elected Democrats alike that when the continuing resolution funding the government runs out at the end of September, congressional Republicans would make a push for even more dramatic cuts. The debt ceiling deal, after all, set caps on spending, not baselines. If GOP lawmakers wanted to force the issue further, they could do so. But Republican leadership has thus far appeared content to treat the debt deal as the final word -- thereby dramatically lessening the threat of a government shutdown at the end of September.

“While all of us would like to have seen a lower discretionary appropriations ceiling for the upcoming fiscal year, the debt limit agreement did set a level of spending that is a real cut from the current year level,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said in a recent memorandum to his colleagues. “I believe it is in our interest to enact into law full-year appropriations bills at this new lower level.”

As Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), the senior Democrat on the Budget Committee, told The New York Times about the debt deal: “It substantially reduces the risk of a shutdown fight."

To those Democrats -- and there were many -- who believed that the debt ceiling bill should have been "clean" and should not have contained spending cuts, the fact that those cuts may have preemptively resolved a possible government shutdown fight likely provides little solace. House Republicans, after all, got reduced spending (about $7 billion below current levels) at a time when public opinion polls and macroeconomic models alike suggested the government had a greater role to play in turning around the economy.

Still, the absence of a government shutdown debate in September is welcome news, both for Congress at large (the public clearly recoiled at the messy standoff over the debt ceiling, given polls that show historically low approval ratings for lawmakers) and for the White House, which can now try and shape the political narrative without a major, domestic political crisis intervening.

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WASHINGTON -- The White House appears to have achieved one of its primary goals following the debt ceiling deal, with congressional Republicans showing little interest in extending budget fights throu...
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ChicagoKev
04:47 PM on 08/30/2011
So msgirlintn... where is that reference for the 9% approval rating you claim in Pundit's Post? I keep asking for it because I can't find anything even close to 9%.

Why can't you provide a source? Or is your mission to provide misinformation?
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AyeChart
Retired Army, half-retired physician
03:54 PM on 08/30/2011
Black leaders turn up heat on Obama...

Somebody call the Secret Service!!!!!!
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FreedomBeforeSecurity
Primary: The only time we truly control our future
12:50 PM on 08/30/2011
Nothing to see here!!! Let's all completely ignore the disaster that the "Super Senate" committee is about to bring. All nice and quiet, away from view of those pesky voters.
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Joe Fortier
12:47 PM on 08/30/2011
Is it just me or did Congress scare the living s*** out of America/the World to essentially achieve nothing whatsoever? If this is what the Administration considers a "victory," I'm even more scared thinking of what they consider defeat...
RoofinReality
In the middle, trending fast away from the radical
03:01 PM on 08/30/2011
Joe, the alternative (default) would be a LOT worse.
Let me put it this way.
Jobs were being shed at 4,5 600,000 per month just months before Obama came in to office.
After he got his agenda started, job losses slowed to a trickle. And then in 2010, job gains started to take place and take whole.

Or, let's look at it more conetmperaneously.
Job gains were quite strong in Fall 2010 and into 2011.
THEN, the GOTea decided to become the radical reich repub party and throw a wrench into the tepid but consistent growth.
The stock market, once over 12,500, fell to under 10,000 once they (GOTea) reared their ugly heads.

So yes. This is a small, but significant victory.
12:43 PM on 08/30/2011
Just more revisionist history from an administration trying to escape the fact that it had caved and caved badly.
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Okieborn
Equal Rights For All !
12:31 PM on 08/30/2011
White House gets debt ceiling victory !
At What Cost Mr. President ?
I have talked with several Medicare recipients this week and they are all so dis-heartened after receiving letters from Medicare that benifits will be cut and the Monthly Premium will also be Raised Significantly. What is next on your bi-partisan negotiations Mr. President dismanteling Social Security to please the corporate bought republicans !!!!!!
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
11:54 AM on 08/30/2011
Apparently Speaker Boehner still thinks he got 98% of what he wanted and is happy about it, i hope the American people take their 2% to the election stations next election and remember what they could have had!
11:53 AM on 08/30/2011
With this debt ceiling scuffle, Obama and the Dem's, once again, got suckered into an unnecessary fight on shakey Republican ground that they thought had merit. The moment they agreed to link spending cuts to raising the debt limit, they were crawling uphill in molasses. They agreed to this precedent when it wasn't necessary. A strong President would have rejected their extortion play and paid the Nation's bills, just like we have always done. The authority and the people's support was there. The problem is that they (the Dems) have bought into Washington's fixation for the moment: fiscal austerity! Obama's ever present weakness to strike a compromise, instead of taking a stand was, and is, the problem. Large government program cuts are the worst attitude government can take in the face of this nasty "unemployment recession." They make the problem worst. The fact that the Dems have to "explain" their "winning position" shows they lost the scuffle, period.
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yweston
We Won!!!! So Get Over It....
03:07 PM on 08/30/2011
Well they may have lost the Battle, but the Won the War. Because MOST American equate the DOWNGRADE with the debt ceiloing scuffle. And they lay most of the blame with TeapubliCorp.
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Guitar63
11:18 AM on 08/30/2011
Any time you have to attempt to sell people on why your deal wasn't a bad deal, it probably was. The fact that he called it the one "brutal" battle between the elections just goes to show that the don't really have our interests at heart either. For them its all a political battle and not about getting things done to help us out.
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Jannsmoor
10:29 AM on 08/30/2011
Here is my take. The actual deal that emerged wasn't really that bad. Most of the cuts are years away and the Congress can always change its mind between now and then. The best news is that if the budget committee doesn't reach an agreement, there will finally be some cuts to the bloated, wasteful, fraudulent war department. The worst thing that came out of this deal was that President Obama looked weak and hurt his poll numbers by pushing for 'compromise.' He better learn to take a stand pretty soon or a lot of Progressive Dems aren't going into the next election with much enthusiasm.
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grover5995
Proud American, former Republican
11:03 AM on 08/30/2011
Too bad that the Prez came across as a negotiator who was trying to reason with a bunch of street fighters. Next time he needs to bring guns to the gunfight!
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Scott EngageAmerica
10:12 AM on 08/30/2011
The debt ceiling deal purports to reduce budget deficits $2 trillion over 10 years, with only $21 billion out of a total of $3.7 trillion in expenditures, less than 1% of the cuts, coming in the 2012 budget (http://eng.am/nERaq2). Reforms to entitlements programs will most likely be apart of the final agreement pursued by the super committee. The Congressional Budget Office projects that by 2021 federal debt will be over $20 trillion. And S&P still downgraded the US credit rating.

How can either side claim a victory?
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fugmo
Reality leaves a lot to the imagination.
11:26 AM on 08/30/2011
"How can either side claim a victory?"

This is the sign of a valid compromise.
11:53 AM on 08/30/2011
It's not a valid compromise if it's bad for America.

The IMF, the Fed, Krugman and everyone else who's serious says that the government needs to be spending on stimulus right now to keep this current recession from becoming the "new normal". Instead the POTUS has accepted the GOP meme that we need to cut the deficit RIGHT NOW, even as we attempt to crawl back out of the hole. That's Herbert Hoover thinking and it will make things worse and it's not even what the American people want.

It's time to tax some rich people! (making over $1 million a year) It's what the American people want and it would solve the deficit fairly quickly. Let's get back to tax rates that actually worked for America historically. Right now we are at the lowest rates of tax relative to GDP since 1951!
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ScottV
Damn Right I'm a Democrat!
09:54 AM on 08/30/2011
The economy is still a choker around the necks of the repubs as it is the dems, And when these austerity measures fail to produce any real results neither side will win come Nov 2012.
cureyourosity
INDEPENDENT--cuz the other two parties suck
09:52 AM on 08/30/2011
Sorry I don't care how HP spins this story. The DEMS lost significant political clout with on this issue and it's their own fault. They had full power and lost it to the GOP. Then didn't take the time to prepare to fight on the very issue that made them lose majority in the Congress, but sat on their butts until the last minute with no plans to offer! So they end up having to take what the GOP gives them from a position of weakness. I don't blame progressives for being upset but it shouldn't be a surprise considering who's leading the party.
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09:44 AM on 08/30/2011
And the main reason is that it's election season and the Republicans don't want to be held responsible for the stock market tanking again....Like it did during the Republican debt ceiling denial.
09:42 AM on 08/30/2011
IF CUTS ARE TO BE MADE, WE THE PEOPLE WANT THE CUT TO START AT THE TOP !

START BY CUTTING CONGRESSES PAY, CUT THEIR BENEFIT PACKAGES BY 80%.
TAKE AWAY THEIR JETS, LET THEM SHARE JETS, INSTEAD ALL OF THEM HAVING THEIR OWN, CUT VACATION COST IN THE WHITE HOUSE,
ALL ILLEGALS TO BE SENT BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRIES , " NO EXCEMPTION "
MAKE THEM APPLY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, IF THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY, THEY HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME .
LETS START TAKING CARE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FIRST AND FOREMOST, " NO EXCEMPTIONS. "
09:47 AM on 08/30/2011
FYI: Google Steve Southerland ((R) Florida) first year freshman and Tea Party favorite complaining about the low pay he recieves as a congressman.
10:24 AM on 08/30/2011
WHEN CUTS HAVE TO BE MADE, WHY IT IS ALWAYS THE POOREST AMERICANS WHO GET CUT FIRST ?? IF THE SOCIAL SECURITY & MEDICARE WAS LEFT ALONE, WHEN IT WAS IN IT'S SPECIAL FUND ,, / BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT PUT IT IN THEIR GENERAL FUND . THERE WAS PLENTY MONEY TO LAST A LONG TIME. BY THE GOVERNMENT WASTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLES MONIES,/ TAX DOLLARS , IS THE BIGGEST REASON WHY, SOCIAL SECURITY & MEDCARE IS BROKE. PLUS GIVING IT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS, WHO NEVER PAID IN TO IT. THIS HAS TO STOP NOW !
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grover5995
Proud American, former Republican
11:06 AM on 08/30/2011
You make some good points, but illegal aliens don't collect SS benefits. They often get jobs with fake ID and pay FICA taxes even though they will never collect.