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Tough economic climate as Obama seeks 2nd term

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First Posted: 09/04/11 09:08 AM ET Updated: 11/04/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama faces a long re-election campaign having all but given up on the economy rebounding in any meaningful way before November 2012. His own budget office predicts unemployment will stay at about 9 percent, a frightening number for any president seeking a second term.

Obama's prospects aren't entirely grim, however. The GOP, heavily influenced by the tea party, may nominate someone so deeply flawed or right-leaning that, Democrats hope, Obama can persuade Americans to give him a second chance rather than risk the alternative.

Democrats say the man who ran on hope and change in 2008 will have to claw his way toward a second term with a sharply negative campaign.

The strengths and weaknesses of his prospects seem clear.

Next year's unemployment rate is likely to be the highest in a presidential election since 1940. But the leading Republican contenders have denigrated Social Security, switched positions on critical issues and done other things that might make them ripe targets for Obama's well-funded campaign.

Democratic strategist Doug Hattaway says GOP candidates, including Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, may turn off independent voters with their embrace of tea party stands on taxes, spending and program cuts.

Obama "should lump them all together and make them answer for their slash-and-burn politics," said Hattaway, a former top aide to Hillary Rodham Clinton, Obama's rival for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.

To do so, Hattaway said, Obama must link the candidates to congressional Republicans, blamed by Democrats for the nation's stalled job growth and recent downgrade of U.S. creditworthiness.

Making the connection might not prove easy.

Obama's potential challengers have avoided getting dragged into details of the bitter Capitol Hill fights over deficit spending. At least for now, they can lob criticisms at the president while offering few specific, measurable alternatives.

"President Obama oversaw an economy that created zero jobs last month, and that is unacceptable," Romney said Friday.

But the influence of the tea party and other conservative groups may give Obama some openings, by pushing the GOP field so far to the right that the candidates risk alienating vital independent voters.

In a debate last month, the top contenders pledged to oppose a deficit-reduction plan even if it cut $10 in spending for every $1 raised by new taxes. Perry, who entered the race after that debate, also has taken a tough stand against higher taxes.

Obama's team says independents, who might pay scant attention to ideologically driven primaries, will find such positions extreme when they compare the eventual GOP nominee and the president.

Political aide David Axelrod hinted that Obama will try to sharpen his differences with Republicans who insist on spending cuts in virtually every area and who refuse to let tax cuts expire, as scheduled, for the wealthiest.

It's hard "to create an economy in which people can get decent jobs and raise a family at the same time we're cutting back on our commitment to spending on education and research and development that will create innovation and jobs," Axelrod said in an interview.

The Republicans' "essential message is, let's go back to the policies that helped get us in this mess," he said, citing Wall Street deregulation and corporate tax breaks.

If GOP lawmakers, backed by the presidential hopefuls, continue to thwart Obama's bid to mix targeted spending cuts with tax increases, Axelrod said, "we're going to take our case to the American people."

Recent polls underscore Obama's challenge. A Pew Research poll found that 39 percent of independents approve of his job performance, while 52 percent disapprove.

An AP-GfK poll showed a sharp erosion of support for Obama among white voters and women. Less than half of all women and less than half of all men approve of the job he's doing, and only 50 percent of women say he deserves re-election.

But the same polls show that far more voters blame former President George W. Bush more than Obama for the nation's economic woes. Whether that sentiment lingers for 16 more months could prove crucial.

Hattaway said Obama must start by winning back moderates and motivating "millennials," voters in their 20s and early 30s.

"The economy is not going to come roaring back before the election, so he has to give them a vision" for a future with jobs and with social justice for groups, including gays, Hattaway said.

Obama also must try to minimize the frustration among his liberal base supporters, many of whom feel he is too quick to compromise. Some complained loudly Friday when Obama yanked a proposal to tighten federal smog standards.

Questions about the environment, war and foreign affairs will figure into the 2012 race. But all parties agree jobs are the overriding issue.

Analysts differ on what level of unemployment is politically fatal.

President Ronald Reagan handily won re-election in 1984 with unemployment at 7.2 percent, which was down slightly from the rate at the start of his term. President Jimmy Carter lost when unemployment was at 7.5 percent and President George H.W. Bush lost with a similar level, but both faced other problems as well.

Hopeful Democrats say Obama can survive next year if people feel growth is coming soon. Another way to survive is uglier: admitting the economy is a mess, but pressing the case that the GOP alternative is so unacceptable that the incumbent should stay in office, even with no recovery in sight.

Obama's aides say the election will be "a choice, not a referendum." That hints at a bruising effort to divert attention from the president's record and focus on what the Obama campaign believes are the GOP nominee's chief shortcomings.

Democratic optimists feel the GOP nominating process will play into that strategy. The Democratic National Committee issues a steady stream of statements and videos with headlines such as "Romney makes move to embrace Tea Party."

Several Republican candidates, including Romney, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and Perry, are proven vote-getters at the state level. Soon they will show whether they can handle the scrutiny and grind of a presidential campaign.

Democrats say their records provide much to use against them.

Perry, for instance, has called Social Security "a Ponzi scheme," and said climate change is a "contrived phony mess."

Romney switched his position on abortion, gay rights and gun control after leaving the Massachusetts governor's office and seeking the Republican presidential nod. He also is criticized for his role in Bain Capital, a corporate takeover firm that eliminated jobs in some cases but expanded them in others.

Bachmann has spent only three terms in the House; the last member to go directly to the White House was James Garfield, elected in 1880. If Sarah Palin decides to run, she will be asked why she quit her job as Alaska's governor with more than a year left in her term.

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montestruc
War is the health of the state--Randolph Bourne
06:14 AM on 09/07/2011
On the switch position thing, Obama bringing it up is pot-kettle-black. Please get real about it
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Meldy1
Nurse,(I don't work anymore!)&Pianist
12:01 PM on 09/06/2011
The real fact is that there is no one out there with intellect ,grace and compassion...so it will be Obama once again,it's a choice between good or bad.I choose good then Obama...24% are loons statiscally speaking fact checked...Sane and educated Americans will reelect Presidnet Obama.Mr.President thank you for the 244 accomplishments,and the extra elimination of binladen and ousting dictators.Not one past gutsy POTUS's was able to do this,only in their dreams!.BAM did it with words.BAM IS THE WORD!!!!ALLER!!!!!!HURRAY!!!!!OLE!!!!VAMOS!!!!!KOM OP!!!!!FORZA!!!IBOTO ULI SI OBAMA!!!!!!
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cathyjs
08:35 AM on 09/06/2011
obama's chances of a second term are nil. He cannot run on his record as his 'big accomplishments' remain unpopular with most Americans. His policies have caused massive job losses in the private sector even as he had grown the public sector. He is using his executive powers to push policies most of us do not want such as back-door amnesty when the Dream Act could not pass, the forcing of union labor in awarding of 'stimulus projects' which causes fewer workers to be hired because of increased costs, and the loss of thousands of jobs in his efforts to push his green agenda.

So instead of running on his accomplishments he is running against the Tea Party and Republicans. It's all he's got and in the end will only damage his chances as eventually even the Democrats will have to answer the question "are you better off since obama took office?" and the honest people will have to say "no". For those who say "no" but vote for him anyway
there is no hope. But for the majority of us we'll believe our eyes over the words of obama and the Dems any day. And no matter what the Democrats say our eyes see the truth.
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leiatcolo
11:01 AM on 09/06/2011
OK so you must be a card carrying TP or republican. You are going to be really sad come November, 2012.
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Cakey4814
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08:33 AM on 09/06/2011
HPAOL..you've outdone yourself today with all the bad news for President Obama. You could have just combined all the rhetoric from Bachmann, Palin, all the GOP and YOU and created a new website titled "Bash Obama"...un"freaking"believable..
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cathyjs
08:40 AM on 09/06/2011
Really? Then why is this article buried near the bottom of the page beneath many many anti- right pieces? Why is this poll not in the headlines, even msnbc has it in a prominent spot?

Obama hits all-time lows, according to NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll
President 'is no longer the favorite to win re-election,' Democratic pollster says

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44401295/ns/politics/
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leiatcolo
10:51 AM on 09/06/2011
Why don't you find another site. There are alot of hateful sites that should keep that hatred stoked.
MyrtleJune
STOP negotiating! End the American hostage crisis!
02:36 AM on 09/06/2011
Well since the REGRESSIVE wing of the Progressives, aka the hotwetpuppypuddle dwellers, have joined forces with the gopbaggers, that takes care of what.....25% of voters who will continue the insanity they started in 10. However, that leaves the door open to 75% of the voters to vote for Obama AND superduper Congressional majorities. Of that 75%, maybe 10% will go with another dumbbumtexan or other crazy of the same caliber. So that leaves only 65% of voters open to voting for Obama AND superduper Congressional DEM majorities. Yeah, it's gonna be real tough...... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL This election has nothing whatsoever to do with what these candidates are saying. It has only to do with ONE QUESTION: "Do you want to see WI come to DC"?

The gop cannot hold the economy hostage for FOUR MORE YEARS!!! The moment Obama is reelected with a Dem supermajority congress, you will see a man with nothing to lose, no more elections, and one that scares the living daylights out of the gopbaggers. I love this scenario!!!! lololol
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hammhome
popcorn anyone?
02:29 AM on 09/06/2011
It gonna be a tough slog for Dems until the day Obama announces that he has decided not to run for re-election. Then (and only then will) Hillary step into the presidental race, and she could very well win it and save those Senate seats for the Dems as well. Will the Democrat poobahas tell Pres. Obama to step down. Only time will tell.
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ariadne104
To Limit Yourself Is To Limit The Possibilities
11:04 PM on 09/05/2011
So That Ignorance Won't Be The Reason Why "Progressives" Are Throwing The President Under The Bus

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/09/so-that-ignorance-wont-be-reason-why.html

Please pass it on. The American People need to see what he has accomplished his first two years of the presidency and how all that progress came to a halt once the Repubs took over the House
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stonemann
10:38 PM on 09/05/2011
You've already got my vote Mr. President. Once again, I'm voting against the Republicans and their Conservative Special Forces Group, the tea Party. If these folks had put in a fraction of their efforts over the past 30 months to create jobs rather than to make you a one term President, unemployment would easily be under 5% as I type. This sustained unemployment rate is by design, plain and simple, and Republicans are the culprits behind it. They showed me who they were prior to the 2008 election and that's why I voted against them, after 30 months, they've shown me they haven't changed. If anything, they've gotten worse, and they want the White House? These are clearly bad officials, and bad officials are elected by good citizens who don't vote, think about it.
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catalysto
11:55 PM on 09/05/2011
well said.
09:12 AM on 09/06/2011
are you voting fro hope and change again- ha ha
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leiatcolo
11:02 AM on 09/06/2011
You bet-cha!!
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stonemann
04:39 PM on 09/06/2011
No, I'm voting against everything Republican and Tea Party.
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ocrmom59
10:30 PM on 09/05/2011
I maynot agree with the way the president does business but that is why he is president and I am not. I like to believe that he is doing things that will have a long term benefit and not a short term. I also bills and laws that do get pass by him hopefully cannot be overturned like governors are doing in some of the states.

I feel that he is right that we should not feel the full impact of something good and then have it failed faster than one can blink their eyes. That is how we got into this mess in the first place, we were led to believe that it was okay to spend and spend and not worry about when it would get paid. Thanks to the republican president we took him at his word and now we are paying the price for it. But who get blame for it. Obama.

I also think if the president didn't take some of the measures he did when he did, we would be in a worst shape. The economy is like when a person gets sick from a dreadful illness, they have to get real sick before they get better, same with the economy, we have to really hit rock bottom before we can build back up. As long as people can blame someone, things will never get better. If we put the pressure on the people who won't hire, then we will see a difference.
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cathyjs
08:45 AM on 09/06/2011
"As long as people can blame someone, things will never get better."

Agreed. obama has been attacking and blaming from day one and has not stopped. Instead he is strengthening his attacks and siccing his minions on anyone or anything that speaks the truth about his agenda, anyone or anything that is profitable, anyone or anything that is trying to stop his destruction of our once great nation.
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leiatcolo
10:48 AM on 09/06/2011
Yeah,, right. He should just stand there and let people (congress) attack him. Silly man, how dare he defend himself.
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Tim303
09:57 PM on 09/05/2011
This says it all: http://goo.gl/cVlcV
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moozungu
02:59 AM on 09/06/2011
This article puts a lot of what has happened over the last three years in perspective
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LogicMonger
Co-Conspirator In The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
09:38 PM on 09/05/2011
Still waiting for his "Let me be clear, you see what had happened was" re-election speech.
laughingcynic
too far left & you're right
09:01 PM on 09/05/2011
Like baseball, political popularity is cyclical. Obama's is at nadir at a good time allowing for ample opportunity to climb. A bad economy will make it very difficult to get re-elected. However I think all depends upon the GOP candidate. Bachmann, Perry and even Romney cannot really beat Obama. However someone like Huntsman will appeal to moderates of both parties - moderate republicans and disaffected democrats. However I don't think the t-baggers will permit this moderate candidate to get the nomination.
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RMorr2002
07:17 PM on 09/05/2011
Dems have some tough decisions to make and they need to be made soon.

They lost the House in HISTORIC NUMBERS in 2010 and there is almost no hope of getting control again any time soon.

The Senate will almost definitely go to the Republicans in 2012.  The Dems have to defend 23 seats and many of those Dem Senators are choosing to retire rather than face certain defeat.

And last....obama's poll numbers are sinking fast.  He will almost certainly lose in a Jimmy Carter style landslide and there is little that he can do about it.  The Dems know this and have to choose between supporting a sure loser...or putting up a different candidate that has some chance at winning,    Tough choice!
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Tim303
09:58 PM on 09/05/2011
"I am a cynical not-really-american."
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RMorr2002
10:20 PM on 09/05/2011
Really????    Sucks to be you!
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ocrmom59
10:21 PM on 09/05/2011
Obama will win again and congress will lose the majority of their republicans and they will be able to thank the teaparty movement for that. All the republicans and teaprty governors that elected in November could not wait to show just how eager they were to control things and have be the cause of a lot of stupid and dumb laws get pass that will hurt the american people.

It really took that election to wake up people who had been led around in a fog with the idea that a black man could not and should not be president to realize that their own worst enemy was the ones they put into congress. It was a wake up call to realize they had been screwed.

Because of their fear, they really have a lot to fear now with the idea of losing ss, medicare and unemployment benefits for starters something that they didn't would happen to them. They were under the impressions that the republicans would somehow spare them and at the same time get rid of the president. Now they are finding out they are on the chopping block along witheveryone else. Their only hope is that the president stop giving the republicans a lot of leway without getting more back for the american people.
09:14 AM on 09/06/2011
Is he going to run on his record- Of course not

He will run a hate campaign after he says everyone hates him

Libs are Jokes
06:27 PM on 09/05/2011
The BIGGEST LOSERS choose the lesser of two evils over and over and over and over.
Create a positive option.
06:25 PM on 09/05/2011
Does Obama really think it helps him and all the other Democrats running when he says he doesn't really care that much if he has a second term?? Which he has said at least twice? Why say that? False modesty?
09:15 AM on 09/06/2011
All you Libs wish you had voted for Hillary- HA HA
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leiatcolo
10:58 AM on 09/06/2011
No, not really.