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Libya: Gaddafi Representatives Visited China To Buy Arms

Libya Gaddafi China Arms

CHRISTOPHER BODEEN   09/ 5/11 09:55 AM ET   AP

BEIJING — China confirmed on Monday that representatives of Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi visited in July in a bid to buy arms, news that could further damage Beijing's relations with the new opposition government in Tripoli.

Although China insists no weapons were delivered, a spokesman for the Libyan opposition said there is evidence that Chinese companies shipped weapons through Algeria to Gadhafi's forces after the outbreak of the uprising in violation of a U.N. arms embargo.

Rebel military spokesman Abdel Raham Busim said documentation was still being collected and the new government was considering bringing legal action against Beijing, possibly at the United Nations.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said Gadhafi's officials met with representatives from Chinese companies but insisted that no contracts were signed and no weapons were shipped. She said China strictly adheres to a United Nations ban on supplying arms to the toppled regime and backed the role of the U.N. in a post-conflict Libya.

"Chinese companies have not provided military products to Libya in any direct or indirect form," Jiang told reporters at a regular briefing.

Although there was no indication that the government played a role in the contacts, the fact that the meetings were held could deliver a further blow to Beijing's ties with Libya's rebels while reinforcing the belief that China may have been trying to play both sides of the conflict.

Busim said an invoice has been recovered from Libyan government files dating from July that lists $200 million worth of Chinese weapons including pistols, missiles and rocket launchers. He said it wasn't clear whether any of the weapons had been paid for or shipped, but that other evidence shows Chinese weapons were either shipped to Gadhafi's forces via Algeria or taken from Algerian stockpiles that China later resupplied.

He said that had cast a pall over relations with China and called on Beijing to work to repair its image.

"It is not nice to have enemies. Maybe there could be a way that the situation can be resolved, but that will depend more on the Chinese government," Busim said.

China abstained from the U.N. resolution authorizing force against the Gadhafi regime and has yet to formally recognize the opposition National Transitional Council. Although Beijing belatedly opened up contacts with the rebels, it hosted Gadhafi's foreign minister in Beijing at the same time.

China and Russia had earlier questioned whether the supplying of weapons to rebels breached the terms of the U.N. ban. The head of the transitional council has in recent days accused Beijing of holding up the release of frozen Libyan funds held overseas, allegedly in order to first guarantee the safety of billions of dollars in Chinese investments in Libya.

While the NTC has said it will honor contracts made with Gadhafi's government, its officials have indicated they regard China as being in a separate category from the transitional government's strong backers such as France, Britain and the United States.

Asked whether China was obstructing the release of Libyan funds, Jiang said China had no problem in principle with turning them over, but wanted first to ensure there was adequate supervision of their use.

Jalal el-Gallal, a civilian spokesman for the Libyan rebels, said he was aware of the reports of the Gadhafi delegation's visit, but that the new government acknowledged the importance of friendly ties with China, one of five permanent veto-wielding members of the U.N. Security Council.

"China is a superpower," el-Gallal said. "We have to take that into consideration. We hope they will assist us to succeed. We need the Chinese to be on our side, irrespective of what has taken place."

While Gadhafi obtained weapons from a number of sources, China has built a strong position as provider of small arms to many African nations, including those suffering internal conflict such as Sudan and Zimbabwe. China also sold weapons to both sides in the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq War, apparently with no damage to its relations with their leaders.

The Canadian newspaper The Globe and Mail reported last week that Gadhafi's officials negotiated to buy weapons and ammunition from Chinese arms makers China North Industries Corp., China Precision Machinery Import and Export Co., and China Xinxing Import and Export Co. It based the report on discarded Libyan government documents that opposition sources believe are authentic.

Representatives of the Chinese companies either could not be contacted or said no spokesman was available to speak with the media.

Sanctions expert George A. Lopez of the University of Notre Dame's Kroc Institute for International Peace Studies in the U.S. state of Indiana said the documents reported in the article were worrisome.

"The scope and seriousness of the reported 'arms deal' between the (Gadhafi) government and China should be a matter of deep concern to the Libyan Sanctions Committee, its investigative Panel of Experts and the international community," Lopez said in a statement.

However, Li Weijian, a scholar with Shanghai's Institute of Foreign Studies, said such contacts likely took place without government authorization, adding that Beijing was confident of establishing good relations with the new Libyan government.

"I don't think the relations of the two countries will be affected by the incident and both sides should look to the future," Li said.

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Associated Press writer Karin Laub in Tripoli contributed to this report.

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Luuke
09:33 AM on 09/06/2011
I'll let you know how I feel only after US stops selling weapons to Saudi Arabia & Pakistan....
08:40 AM on 09/06/2011
If weapon manufacturers were to stop selling arms and ammo to the Mideast and our many many anti-terrorist organizations prevented illegal arms/ammo sales, I think fighting there would eventually grind to a halt. However, greed always wins over common sense and humanity.
06:11 AM on 09/06/2011
Why is this reported as something sinister? Are dictators only allowed to purchase weapons from the West?
08:47 AM on 09/06/2011
Gadhafi's representatives "APPROACH" Chinese arms companies, and somehow this becomes THE CRIME OF CHINA.

Talking about Western propaganda machine.

China should tell the West, "SO WHAT! BUZZ OFF! YOU BUNCH OF PATHETIC HYPOCRITES WHO THRIVES ON ARMS DEALS!"
05:01 AM on 09/06/2011
Is Gadhafi not sending out all sort of representatives across the globe for political and military supports?

What is the big deal here? What is China's crime here?

Are the Chinese bomb*ing Lybia?

You guys are like monkey jumping on Western media cue ... good monkeys!
05:33 AM on 09/06/2011
's not a crime, its violation of UN sanctions against the former Libyan government­.

China is a permanent member of the Security Council, an influentia­l member of the UN & a rising world power.

If it is found that those corporatio­ns are found to have signed contracts those corporatio­ns would then face their own sanctions; thus having an adverse effect of their ability to conduct business elsewhere in the world.

It is not becoming of a supposed world power to be breaking UN sanctions and resolution­s; its sets a dangerous precedent that would eventually make the UN a moot deliberati­ve body; more so than it already is.

The government is already out on the defensive.

http://www­.huffingto­npost.com/­huff-wires­/20110906/­libya-chin­a-weapons/

Learn a bit before jumping to an ignorant defense.
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walkingwolf
I'm sorry I offended you-I should have lied
02:43 AM on 09/06/2011
Do you think it matters if they're painted with lead based paint and made out of re-cycled zippo lighters?
01:23 AM on 09/06/2011
Well....Britain, Italy, US and France have been selling, shipping and air dropping weapons for the rebels. So whats the problem here ?
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hagagaga
My comments are funnier than yours.
01:07 AM on 09/06/2011
CHICOM is evil.
04:57 AM on 09/06/2011
Are they bom*bing Lybia?
05:34 AM on 09/06/2011
No one is bombing Lybia.
fanetiks
Sense in spelling and everything else
11:27 PM on 09/05/2011
The whole world has got to end the arms trade. Munitions factories everywhere should be closed down!
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wakohnen
God's Peace, Pricele$$
05:08 AM on 09/06/2011
It's a nice thought but thats all it will ever be unfortunately. There will always be war somewhere and the guns will keep cranking out as long as there is someone to buy them. Just like everything else....it's all about the $$
05:56 AM on 09/06/2011
who will make the guns to force the gun makers shut down?
fanetiks
Sense in spelling and everything else
08:13 AM on 09/06/2011
Courts close illicit businesses all the time without guns. We already have many more guns in the hands of authorities than we need. If not one more gun were made, nor one more bullet, we would have more than enuf to last a civilized society for a century.
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Barry Clarke
Retired Air Traffic Control Aviation Meteorologist
11:26 PM on 09/05/2011
Maybe a little closer and deeper look at China might expose them for what they really are? Not our friends, but an enemy who is sitting in stealth waiting for the opportunity to strike at a moment of weakness............
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wakohnen
God's Peace, Pricele$$
05:11 AM on 09/06/2011
All China has to do is sit back and watch....why attack when we do such a great job of digging our own hole?
05:36 AM on 09/06/2011
They have too many problems within their own borders to be concerned with starting a major armed conflict.

Plus, land wars and symmetrical warfare isn't nearly as profitable as cyber warfare and corporate espionage.
tccat4
We all have a right to our opinion, like it or not
11:18 PM on 09/05/2011
I wouldnt buy "Made in China" arms, the rubber bands break too easy....
But serious, Im hoping China knows that going against the UN, is not going to earn the respect it is hoping for.

As we all know, even the US has sold arms to Iraq & Libya, so we cant totally say our hands are not as clean as the American people think.
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hagagaga
My comments are funnier than yours.
01:11 AM on 09/06/2011
No, actually, definitely not in significant portions.

Iraq under Saddam Hussein used Warsaw Pact equipment.

Aside from the (French) military aircraft, Gaddafi has tended to equip his troops with Warsaw Pact equipment.
11:16 PM on 09/05/2011
Since it took power in 1949, the cruel CCP has murdered tens of millions of its own people and is now in the process of the attempted genocide of millions of innocent Falun Gong. Americans seem to have forgotten its thousands of sons and fathers who died fighting Communism in Korea and Vietnam.
The CCP uses torture, child slavery, organ harvesting and murder to maintain its paranoid control of its people.
Why is America and the World trading with this monster? Corporate greed.
This is just my understanding, thank you.
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hagagaga
My comments are funnier than yours.
01:12 AM on 09/06/2011
CHICOM is evil. I've been accused of taking an excessive stance against them, but there's no such thing.
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blackhawk78
11:07 PM on 09/05/2011
China is a wily fox that will play any side for money.
05:40 AM on 09/06/2011
You're right about that.

The US should approach the Chinese the same way the Chinese approach the US, with pragmatism and foresight.

The Chinese made a strategic blunder by not supporting the Libyan rebels. 3 percent of their oil comes from Libya; the US should broker a deal with the NTC to take over Chinese oil contracts in Libya.
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jaysea19
10:40 PM on 09/05/2011
China has filth on their hands...as do (most) all countries. What a world!
10:25 PM on 09/05/2011
Get Off China's Back!!! It's not like WE NEVER sold arms to many, many third world countries to gain our ambitions, and to manipulate foreign governments, etc, besides what gives us exclusivity for arms dealing to advance twisted foreign policy.

The Chinese did EXACTLY what the world wanted them to, and now that they are successful, and profitable doing it (plus beating the pants off us economically) you people want to demonize them...for what??? You say, "well they're Communists!", so...- we aren't exactly "free" anymore either thanks to the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, TSA, NSA, on and on. Our very own rank and file politicians have called our Sacred Constitution "Just a GawdDamned piece of paper"!
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liephman88
Drum roll please! And the truth is...........
10:18 PM on 09/05/2011
China had better watch out , the united nations are boiling up a big pot of wet noodles to beat them with! And how dare they sell weapons to both side of a conflict that is American war industries corner.
10:27 PM on 09/05/2011
It is NATO play. NATO was bombing Lybia. Yet somehow the media is systematically misdirecting the general public AWAY FROM THIS EVIL ACT and focus their attention to some minute meetings of some arms dealing meetings between Lybia and Chinese companies.

Get the big rocks: NATO is bombing Lybia. Get it? Get it? Let me get this through you guys head one more time: NATO is bombing a sovereinty nation WITHOU threats on NATO.

Get it? Wake up. Where is the big rock? Wake up!
fanetiks
Sense in spelling and everything else
11:16 PM on 09/05/2011
You are morally wrong and way behind the times. NATO has achieved its end of ending a brutal dictatorship intimately involved in terrorism. Your siding with that dictatorship is contemptible.
02:51 AM on 09/06/2011
NATO also bombed Libya.