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Israel Increasingly Isolated Ahead Of Palestinian Statehood Vote

Israel Isolated Palestinian Vote

JOSEF FEDERMAN   09/ 7/11 04:05 PM ET   AP

JERUSALEM — Rising tensions with some of its closest and most important allies have left Israel increasingly isolated ahead of a momentous vote on Palestinian independence at the United Nations.

Troubles with Turkey, Egypt and even the U.S. are adding to Israel's headaches ahead of the vote, which is shaping up to be a global expression of discontent against the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The Palestinians plan to ask the United Nations this month to recognize their independence in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem – areas captured by Israel in the 1967 Mideast war – probably by embracing them as a "nonmember observer state." The measure is expected to pass overwhelmingly in the U.N. General Assembly.

The assembly's decisions are not legally binding, so the vote will be largely symbolic. But the Palestinians hope the measure will increase the already considerable pressure on Israel to withdraw from occupied territories, and add leverage should peace talks resume. The Palestinians refuse to negotiate while Israel continues to expand Jewish settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem.

Ghassan Khatib, a spokesman for the Palestinian government in the West Bank, said Israeli isolation is playing right into Palestinian hands. "We are seeing that result in increased support for us in the United Nations," he said.

On Wednesday, China announced it would support the Palestinian bid. And a French Mideast envoy, Valerie Hoffenberg, said she had been fired after publicly arguing against the Palestinian initiative. France has not publicly said how it will vote, but her comments signaled that the government favors the Palestinians.

The vote is seen by many not only as a message of sympathy with the Palestinians, but also a barometer of discontent with Israel's settlement policies. Some 500,000 Israelis now live in territories claimed by the Palestinians.

"There's no question that had Israel been seen as a country doing its utmost to promote peace, no such vote would be taking place," said Yossi Beilin, Israel's former deputy foreign minister.

Beilin cited Netanyahu's refusal to extend a freeze on new settlement construction a year ago as the "mother of all sins" that put him at odds with the international community. The decision, made over the very public objections of President Barack Obama, caused a brief round of peace talks to collapse.

Since then, relations with Obama have been further strained. In May, Netanyahu paid a tense visit to Washington, where he objected before cameras to Obama's call that the 1967 boundaries be the basis of a future agreement with the Palestinians. American officials privately express deep frustration with Netanyahu.

Even so, Washington has been trying to pressure the Palestinians to give up the U.N. bid, saying peace can only be achieved through negotiations.

Closer to home, Israel has watched Egypt, perhaps its most critical regional ally, cool relations since the ouster of longtime President Hosni Mubarak in February. Mubarak was seen by many of his people as too sympathetic to Israel, negotiating an unpopular deal to supply it with natural gas, for example.

Israel-Egypt relations took a hit last month when five Egyptian police were killed during a firefight between Israeli forces and fleeing militants. Egypt was outraged, and mass demonstrations against Israel erupted in Cairo. Israel later apologized. But there have been calls in Egypt to cancel the 30-year-old peace agreement with Israel – which is an absolutely critical element of Israel's regional strategy.

Another key regional ally, Turkey, has greatly curbed diplomatic and trade ties with Israel following Israel's deadly raid on a protest flotilla that tried to breach the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip last year. Nine Turks, one of them an American citizen, were killed in clashes with Israeli naval commandos.

Israeli officials have tried to play down the tensions, saying that Israel has long faced hostility on the diplomatic stage. They also say that Israel has enjoyed some key victories recently, such as last week's U.N. report on the flotilla incident that defended its blockade of Gaza. Yet one official acknowledged the "new challenges" are a source of concern. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was discussing sensitive internal discussions.

Dore Gold, a former Israeli ambassador to the U.N. who is close to Netanyahu, said it is "a mistake to judge Israel's international standing by recent events."

He said Turkey's animosity toward Israel is part of a broader shift by the country's Islamist government that "is troubling not just for the Jewish state but for many of Turkey's neighbors."

And any anti-Israel resolution at the U.N. passes automatically, thanks to the dominance by developing nations that are sympathetic to the Palestinians, he said. "It's conventional wisdom that if there was a resolution whose first clause was anti-Israel and whose second clause was that the earth was flat, it would pass," Gold said.

Israeli opposition leader Tzipi Livni, however, accused Netanyahu of weakening the nation's interests. "Israel's isolation is affecting its security and its economy," she told a conference Wednesday.

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JERUSALEM — Rising tensions with some of its closest and most important allies have left Israel increasingly isolated ahead of a momentous vote on Palestinian independence at the United Nations.
JERUSALEM — Rising tensions with some of its closest and most important allies have left Israel increasingly isolated ahead of a momentous vote on Palestinian independence at the United Nations.
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yoyodyne666
Just here to spool you up.
10:39 PM on 09/11/2011
They have not seen anything yet ......
03:37 PM on 09/11/2011
well, too bad for israel, what happens when you elect extremist right wingers. If israel thought the totalitarian regimes in the region, which protected them more than anything from the arab people, and retained the status quo, so they could take more land and flex their military power. Forever they hoped. Well, the times are a changing, and Israel must change along with it. I want to throw-up everytime the president of Israel talks negatively about change in the totalitarian middleast, hopefully to more open democratic states that benefit the people of these nations. Most live in poverty, especially in Egypt. It does not matter if these restrictive regimes were in Israel best interests; change is coming, and the Israelis better be smart about it and , perhaps, they will have to change the way they do things, some stragetic shifts. Perhaps they will have to deal diplomatically with long time enemies, instead of using their military to settle disputes. It was not going to be in their favor forever. And they need far more courageous and forward-looking leaders in Israel. The old guard is still in charge and they can't change with the times.
02:16 PM on 09/11/2011
Part of the inherent problem is the US is societies lack of understanding and of the history of the ME until late. Past generations sat by and accepted the notion that Israel was a young nation besieged by attacks from racist Jew hating Arabs, watched the news tell of the atrocities of the PLO; no one took the time to ask the question, why Palestinians were obsessed with driving Israelis out of the ME. Labeling anyone anti-Semitic disagreeing with Israeli policy and use of the holocaust to garner sympathy was very effective.

The facts and truth are being disseminated. American medias, previously able to distort or omit facts cannot control dissemination of information over the internet. Palestinians are not racist fanatics, they are a displaced people subjected to an inhumane existence.

Israel knows its in a race against time. America's ability and desire to support and them is ending. The expansionists policies reflect this understanding.
America is awakening to the reality that they are to a great extent responsible.

Israeli can continue its denial, but sooner or later international pressure will force them to compromise. The only question is if war can be avoided before that happens. If not, the possible result will be the destruction of Israel and much of the middle east.

The future results for the ME look grim. It's difficult to hope Israel will back down and return to 1967 boarders when their strategy continues to be, deny the facts and blame everyone else.
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
05:02 PM on 09/13/2011
"no one took the time to ask the question, why Palestinia­ns were obsessed with driving Israelis out of the ME."

Why would anyone ask that? Did anyone ask why the Turks slaughtered the Armenians? Is there a reason that could support either act?

"Israeli can continue its denial, but sooner or later internatio­nal pressure will force them to compromise­."

When even you have to acknowledge that the Palestinia­ns were obsessed with driving Israelis out of the ME, what sort of "compromise" do you think they can be "forced" into?
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Fred Ricardo
The white hat, Truth, Justices and theAmerican way
01:03 PM on 09/11/2011
Our relationship with Israel is completely out of touch since Netanyhau and his thugs came into power. Israel has been expanding illegal settlements on occupied Palestinian land for decade, and it is now emerging just how far-reaching this policy is.

According to the Israeli newspaper, the Jerusalem housing committee is planning to build another 50,000 Jewish homes in occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem to join the hundreds of thousands already there or in progress.

It has all been exposed with the Gaza Flotilla Raid, The Israel IDF fired 31 bullets, shot the nine Flotilla workers through the head execution style. There were no weapons found on the flotilla. Cover-up of the murder seems to be the only thing on Israel’s agenda. Open it up to the world court of truth.

Here is the fact, the Aid Workers were unarmed and in international waters. It was the Israeli IDF that was armed and in Armor vest who landed in the dead of night and murdered people.

America must stop the $3 BILLION DOLLARS in Aid to the rogue State of Israel. America is in a financial crises and it appears the people of Israel are not suffering anywhere close to the Tax Payers of America. This money is merged into the General Fund of Israel to be used for expanding illegal housing in the West Bank, their Social Medicine, for Guns and Missiles that kill woman and babies.
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yoyodyne666
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01:54 AM on 09/11/2011
"American officials privately express deep frustration with Netanyahu."

But they are afraid of AIPAC so they do nothing. Great.
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
05:04 PM on 09/13/2011
They were frequently frustrated with Arafat, but the answer wasn't to flush the Palastinians down the toilet, why would expect different on this?
09:52 AM on 09/10/2011
The anti-Semitic West has never really accepted and supported Israel.
So there is no "increase" in "isolation" of Israel!
Jews should rely on themselves and stay firm and fight against their enemies in the West as well as against their enemies in the muslim world.
11:03 AM on 09/10/2011
Agree. Rely on yourself and STOP BEGGING, EXTORTING, ETC... UNITED STATES TAXPAYER'S MONEY.
12:04 PM on 09/11/2011
Stop sending money to the rogue muslim states!
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Fred Ricardo
The white hat, Truth, Justices and theAmerican way
06:12 PM on 09/10/2011
Give back the $3 Billion in Foreign Aid America gives you each year. We need the money more than you do.

No one is buying Poor Little Israel is a victum any more.
12:03 PM on 09/11/2011
$3 billion is the minimum wage for the job Israel has done and continue foolishly to do for the USA.
It should be at least $30 billion.
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Scheherazade Brown
08:15 AM on 09/10/2011
Let Israel do what thwey want to do....we need to get all of the undocumented people out of the u.s. and they all come back through the proceudures that has been working for over 50 years. If one immigrant could do so can the r4est. My father immigrated from the alabama to ohio and he earned his respect and received his due. Each generation contributed to the community that I have been raised and educated and we have spreaded our wings to 3 generations are now heading back to our homeland. So many people has done immigrating by this process for my lifetime and now all of a sudden people are being oppressed and/or victims. Come on people. Even President Obama, let's get rid of our own citizenship problem. Let Dod work....all is required of us is obedience....Have a great day
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STOCKTON JOE
09:27 PM on 09/09/2011
WHAT MOTIVATED THOSE HIJACKERS ON 9/11 WAS OUR SUPPORT OF ISRAEL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44wK72Snm6Y&feature=related...... was it worth the lives lost on that sad day to support Israel a country that ethnically cleansed 1 million indigeous Palestinains?? I put the facts out and you decide.
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Scheherazade Brown
08:18 AM on 09/10/2011
You can not put the truth out for the whole truth has not been leaked yet. There are issues now who some of the other players in this mass murder. Unless you are a part of this lies and deceit session, please explain to me what reason I am to believe what you said. This is much uglier than you will want to admit.....It is not over yet.
11:04 AM on 09/10/2011
So very true, however STOCKTON did leave clues.
batguano
As Long As Grass Grow, Wind Blow & The Sky Is Blue
08:03 PM on 09/09/2011
It seems that accurate portrayal of history and the acts of the Israel state from inception to date that portray why Israel is “Isolated”, do not apparently meet certain guidelines, while defense of that racist state are disseminated without controversy; why is that?.
http://www.wrmea.com/component/content/article/366-jews-for-justice/5695-the-complete-text-of-the-origin-of-the-palestine-israel-conflict.html

The history of Israel began with the terrorism of the Irgun, Stern Gang, and Haganah, to force the indigenous Palestinian inhabitants from their homes and villages; over 450 Palestinian villages were emptied and immediately bulldozed so “there would be no place to come home to”; the very definition of ethnic cleansing and the pre-meditated policy of the Zionist forces in 1948
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Right-Of-Return/Story432.html
http://www.mediamonitors.net/edna45.html

Israeli forces and the “settlers” routinely destroy or steal olive groves/trees to destroy the Palestinian economy.
http://www.poica.org/editor/case_studies/view.php?recordID=456
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/02/israel-destroys-hundreds-of-west-bank-olive-trees-to-lay-settlement-water-line.html

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batguano
As Long As Grass Grow, Wind Blow & The Sky Is Blue
08:02 PM on 09/09/2011
The “settler movement” was begun by Ariel Sharon to “put facts on the ground that will be hard to change”; a cynical and pre-meditated effort to make peace impossible that continues to this day, and is enforced by the occupation; this colonization and transfer of population to territory under occupation is illegal under International Law.
http://www.the-american-interest.com/pdf/v5/n4/Kurtzer.pdf
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/spip/spip.php?article7

Water resources have been usurped by Israel for Jewish settlers and uses almost exclusively and Palestinian water sources are poisoned or destroyed to force Palestinians from their land. The war against Lebanon and the 18 year occupation of South Lebanon up to the Litani River was a blatant water theft; “Operation Litani” was the official name of Israel’s 1978 invasion of Lebanon.
http://www.nogw.com/download/2006_il_destroys_water_jordan_valley.pdf

Since the Palestinians and their Israeli and international supporters, including Americans, began to peacefully demonstrate against Israeli occupation, the Apartheid Wall, and other abusive acts they have been killed, and maimed, and met with brutality and racist abuse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Solidarity_Movement
07:41 PM on 09/09/2011
So what if the Palestinians get their own state? Does anyone think they will have better lives? Hamas will continue to spend their money on building weapons tunnels and buying weapons. They will continue to shoot missiles into Israel. The UN will continue to pay to educate the Palestinian children. Abbas will continue to deny the free elections in the WB and the Palestinians will continue to play the victim trying to get money from the rich oil states instead of improving themselves and pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. Then the Arabs will of course find a way to blame Israel for their poor conditions. Only this time without US money. So the Arabs will continue to live in disfunctional societies governed by thugs who must remain in control at all costs. They will completely disregard Ghadafi and Assad and focus all of their anger on their favorite scapegoats the JOOS. Can you repeat the word disfunctional? Welcome to Arab society.
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STOCKTON JOE
01:44 AM on 09/10/2011
Well then why did those european jews move to such a defunctional place in the first place. They could of moved to America or Canada during the last part of the 19th century? Why not move to a place that is nice and safe like America or Canada?? Could it be more defunctional because white euorpean jews ethnically cleansed one million of the indigeous people......the Palestinains?
10:18 AM on 09/10/2011
Why did Arabs continue their colonial occupation of the Middle-East and North Africa?
The Arab colonizers and imperialists must go back to the Arabian peninsula!
Israel is the first liberated from the Arab colonizers and imperialists land in the Middle-East!
11:39 AM on 09/10/2011
The disfunctional state is not in Israel. They all have freedom in Israel. So who are you kidding? The Jews were there millennia before Islam, Mecca, the Romans, and the Christians.
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Galilee
I boycott products from Syria & Gaza dictatorships
02:18 PM on 09/09/2011
Israel's enemies are Increasingly Isolated. The Palestinian stunt at the UN will not change the fact that Abbas and Hamas are dictators, as well as Syria, Egypt, Jordan, etc....
07:05 PM on 09/09/2011
"Israel's enemies are Increasing­ly Isolated. The Palestinia­n stunt at the UN will not change the fact that Abbas and Hamas are dictators, as well as Syria, Egypt, Jordan, etc...."

Yes. I can see how a never-ending stream of politicians and experts happily and sadly discussing the inevitability of a Palestinian state being recognized by the vast majority of the U.N. shortly is a sign of Israel's enemies being isolated. How very obvious.
07:29 PM on 09/09/2011
Of course. Terrorists are allowed to have their own state according to the UN. I mean after all, calling for the genocide of the Jews is right up UN alley. I have come to the conclusion that the west is one day going to wake up and see the people they are dealing with in the Arab world. They are not like us, do not know democracy and never will, treat their minorities and women like second class citizens and do not know what living without a criminal government means.
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Galilee
I boycott products from Syria & Gaza dictatorships
07:43 PM on 09/09/2011
I can see how people who support Palestinians also support dictators and terrorists.
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yoyodyne666
Just here to spool you up.
02:09 AM on 09/11/2011
Silly, Israel is a failed state.
09:54 AM on 09/09/2011
"Gates said that not only was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ungrateful, but he was also endangering his country by holding control of the West Bank. Goldberg’s sources say that this advice was not met with opposing opinions from other members of the Committee.

Tensions have flared up between the White House and Netanyahu’s government since May, when the Prime Minister lectured the President on the existential challenges facing Israel on live television, at a press conference meant to illustrate the issues on which the two agreed.

This incident led the White House Chief of Staff, William Daley, to issue an angry call to the Israeli ambassador in Washington, Michael Oren; Secretary of State Hillary Clinton also expressed irritation."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62703.html#ixzz1XSmwJpHvhttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62703.html
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colah
Sometimes I sit & think. Sometimes I just sit.
03:47 PM on 09/08/2011
"There's no question that had Israel been seen as a country doing its utmost to promote peace, no such vote would be taking place," said Yossi Beilin, Israel's former deputy foreign minister."

Ouch.
Will all the GIYUS members now claim he is a traitor?

How we can support the Israeli position is beyond me.
Unless of course, The Rapture comes into play. (it does)
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cosmiczulu
the truth shall set you free
04:43 PM on 09/08/2011
Belin has the right to be a fool, he lives in a country that highly prizes freedom of speech even for the biggest fools. The right question is how many Israelis still have any respect for the fool and does anyone in Israel care about Beilin's existence.
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colah
Sometimes I sit & think. Sometimes I just sit.
05:55 PM on 09/08/2011
There is one "yes"
to my question.
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bksg
Proud of my Palestinian Heritage!
06:35 PM on 09/08/2011
cosmiczulu: "a country that highly prizes freedom of speech"
Why don't you Google what happened last week to an Israeli journalist who wrote that in his opinion Palestinians resistance is justified?
HE WAS FIRED!!!!!!
Freedom of speech? Democratic? What a joke!
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06:13 PM on 09/08/2011
He can say what he wants and does.

That is how liberal democracy works.

If that happened everywhere the world would be a better place.

Why would you not support that?
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STOCKTON JOE
03:43 PM on 09/08/2011
The cost of supporting Israel is not only in the aid we give it, but the aid we give other countries like Egypt and Jordan as bribe money to keep the peace with the Jewish state. The prime motivating factor that drove those hijackers to fly those planes into the WTC and the Pentagon was our one sided support of Israel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44wK72Snm6Y&feature=related . The cost of that attack and the wars that followed has bankrupted this country. Was the support of Israel worth the lives of 3000 people on that sad day?? Isarel has been a rock around our neck for decades and does our staning in the world no good. How can you defend a country that displaced one million indigeous Palestinians to create its country? America would be better off if we divorce ourselves from this racist apartheid nation.
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
05:27 PM on 09/08/2011
Not according to OBL. His main gripe was the presence of US troops in the middle east, specifically Saudi Arabia. It wasn't until years after 9/11 that he started talking about the Palestinians.
Regardless, I am skeptical of any information that was gained through torture.

It is a smart PR move for them. You won't get a lot of americans condoning terrorism against america, but if you say the reason for it was because of the Isarel's treatment of the Palestinians, amazingly some people are more than happy to buy this nonsense and tangentially blame israel for the 9/11 attacks, rather than the people that actually perpetrated it.
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STOCKTON JOE
05:59 PM on 09/08/2011
Sorry but again this is disinformation. If you read the life of OBL from the beginning he has always had a hatred of America and Israel with the prime reason hating us is our support of Israel. In the book " The Eleventh Day" which is the best book written on the 9/11 event which has no political bias one way or the other, the book lays out what the common thread of all the hijackers and the OBL and KSM other than being Muslim was their hatred of America for our support of Israel. Again why would not only the FBI but the CIA all agree that this is what motivated the attack on us on that fateful day. Again another clip from the 9/11 commission meeting that the co chair.....Lee Hamilton .....asked the panel of FBI and CIA agents what motivated those hijackers on 9/11... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bm2GPoFfg Now again if you want to put your in head in the sand and not realize that our policy in the middle east.....our support of a country that is charge of the longest occupation in modern history......then I recommend you travel to the middle east and ask the people there whats the number one thing they hate us for...our support of Israel.. recommend you buy the book .....the Eleventh Day....the most complete book on 9/11.....no other book comes close to the detail of that event